T-Boone Pickens or T-Bone Pickens
Seems that there is more to the story with T. Boone Pickens than just windmills to save America. Seems that T-Bone Pickens and friends now have picking the meat off the bone down to an art form. Now we hear that he has the largest water rights in the U.S. and state eminent domain laws in Texas were changed for him so he could set up a water district and use eminent domain powers. his Windmill right of ways can also piggyback on his water district eminent domain power.
Anyone who thinks that money for T-Bone is not the motivation in his national campaign for windmills is not getting the full story. If land owners oppose his water and wind distribution systems going across their lands he plans to use these new eminent domain laws to make them comply and to make himself more billions.
Is natural gas the answer for our cars? This link will tell you all about the idea that T. Boone Pickens promotes on TV about converting vehicles to natural gas. Turns out that T. Boone Pickens also has huge investments in natural gas. What all the TV hype seems to come down to is that Pickens is promoting his own natural gas investments and his own windmill investments on TV and calling it the answer to our foreign oil dependence! I guess Mr T. Boone Pickens thinks we should trade in our foreign oil dependence for dependence on him. Here is the response to the Pickens spokesman that responded to natural gas article above.
I have a better idea Mr Pickens. Just tell all the politicians to allow oil drilling here and now or we should remove all the obstructionists from public office! If off-shore drilling were allowed and if the development of our oil shale and coal were allowed we would not have any foreign energy dependence.
FOXNews.com - Pickens Gives New Meaning to ‘Self-Government’ - Opinion
The more you learn about T. Boone Pickens’ plan to switch America to wind power, the more you realize that he seems willing to say and do just about anything to make another billion or two.
Simply put, Pickens’ pitch is “embrace wind power to help break our ‘addiction’ to foreign oil.” There is, however, another intriguing component to Pickens’ plan that goes unmentioned in his TV commercials, media interviews and web site — water rights, which he owns more of than any other American.
But wait, you say, Pickens is not a government entity. How can he use eminent domain? Are you sitting down?
At Pickens’ behest, the Texas legislature changed state law to allow the two residents of an 8-acre parcel of land in Roberts County to vote to create a municipal water district, a government agency with eminent domain powers. Who were the voters? They were Pickens’ wife and the manager of Pickens’ nearby ranch. And who sits on the board of directors of this water district? They are the parcel’s three other non-resident landowners, all Pickens’ employees.
Earlier this year, Texas changed its law to allow renewable energy projects (like Pickens’ wind farm) to obtain rights-of-way by piggybacking on a water district’s eminent domain power. So Pickens can now use his water district’s authority to also condemn land for his future wind farm’s transmission lines.
Who will pay for the rights-of-way and the transmission lines and pipelines? Thanks to another gift from Texas politicians, Pickens’ water district can sell tax-free, taxpayer-guaranteed municipal bonds to finance the $2.2 billion cost of the water pipeline. And then earlier this month, the Texas legislature voted to spend $4.93 billion for wind farm transmission lines. While Pickens has denied that this money is earmarked for him, he nevertheless is building the largest wind farm in the world.
Pickens has gamed Texas for his own ends, and now he’s trying to game the rest of us, too. Worse, his gamesmanship includes lending his billionaire resources, prominent stature and feudal powers bestowed upon him by the Texas legislature to help the Greens gain control over the U.S. energy supply.
Date posted: Friday, August 1st, 2008 9:53 am | Under category: American patriot topics, The greedy, brain washing, control freaks
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I am a homeowner who has been going through the legal system in Stark county Ohio.
I have purchased a 5kw wind turbine to generate apartial part of my electric I have to get a foundation permit to put up the tower.
My question, is there any were to get goverment grants or companies or indivudials who would donate funds for this project.
The local goverment has know consception of wind power.
I have permits to tie into the grid with my electric supplier (AEP)
This has cost more than my expitations with soil samples and engineered drawings.
Regards
Frank Towns
You might have done the research before you started that project. You are on the wrong Blog to find out information about grants and local tax breaks. You might check with you local power company. Good luck.
Pickens is lying to the american people. I have been building natural gas, coal, Biomass plants for the last 20 years. At present only 7% of the total electricity generated in the US comes from Petrolium products, of which only aprox 3% is supplied by crude oil, the rest is byproducts and waste streams. The remaining plants that still use oil are mainly used as spinning reserve and back up. These plants are very old and all are being replaced or shut down due to there age and inefficincey. The electricity produced in this country is already independent of foreign oil and it is not the cause of our dependence on imports. Go to the DOE site and look to see the power plant break down of the fuels used (47% coal, 19% Bio, 14%Nuc, 12%renueables, 3% hydro, 2% other such as geo, & 7% petrolium. Learn the facts he is trying to use our fear of our depenence on oil to sell his project. I am all for wind to be added to the mix , but dont try to fool me.
Sorry I need to correct the above (19% Nat Gas the bio is under other) The other main use of Foreign oil is the fuels used for processing and transportation. These fuel used for this reason can be derived from coal and bio fuels at the very mines and site the processing is done, at a realistic cost with the new technoligies we have today.
Mr. Pickens:
The wind mills are effective in generating electricity. Could rapid turning of the four wheels on cars and trucks produce the same effect to power our cars by recycling the engery to feed a car battery to make it less dependent on gasoline.
Only if the natural blowing wind was turning the wheels and not the engine. In that case you would be much better off with a sail and only drive in the blowing direction on windy days.
I hope you are being sarcastic otherwise this would support my view that a large part of the energy nonsense that people believe is because few are getting any basic science eduction in school? Maybe they ought to harness the hot air of the Liberals and put windmills on the deep breathing being generated in mandatory sex eduction classes.
we need to get off oil as soon as possible, Mr. pickens is right but we dont have to put him in charge. america needs to get on the same page and get free.
With regards to some of the comments from the Fox News quotes.
I agree that Pickens is no doubt in it for the money, isn’t that also why all the oil/gas companies are making such huge profits!! Someone is going to make money. A better point is that wind has less negative environmental impacts than drilling for oil, refining oil. cleaning up oil, and recycle oil based products. Doesn’t that sound better??!!
No it does not sound better for various reasons.
1. Windmills have environmental impact. You want a windmill farm in your backyard? They make beautiful areas ugly. I live near windmills and they are an eyesore and the electric lines coming from them are an eyesore. People here protested the building of windmills but they were given no choice by state government fascists like Hillary and Schulmer. Now the people cannot even sell their properties to move away from the windmills because property values near the windmill farms have fallen.
2. Windmills kill birds
3. Windmills take huge amounts of steel and copper and both have to be mined. Also, if you build the huge numbers of wind turbines that Pickings is talking about you will run up the cost of steel and copper all over the world. Wind generators also take energy to build, transport, erect and more energy and resources to build the power distribution system.
4. Windmills are expensive and they have to be subsidized by your taxes or energy bills. They only have a twenty year life.
5. Wind does not blow all the time so wind generators need back up generators making energy duplicity necessary.
6. Pickens thinks the windmills will save natural gas for vehicles. That will not happen it is a ridiculous assumption. There is a link in the original post that should shed some light on that.
Wind simply is not the answer that Pickens claims. Wind generators will play a small part in the energy mix but trying to do what Pickens wants will be a huge waste of taxpayers money that will not solve the problem and that will only line the pockets of good-ole-boys like Pickens. Remember, Pickens is an oil man and he has the largest gas holdings in the U.S. He stands to make billions of greenbacks from blowing wind to Americans.
As always, there’re few sides to the same story and truth somewhere in the middle:
Don,
I have reed your article about natural gas. You’re absolutely right when you stated that break even point for modified vehicles should come after ~100K miles and it make CNG conversion a “bad” option for regular people, who are driving to work every day, but when you look at other car transportation, like UPS and FedEx trucks or city buses refuse howling vehicles etc., they’re driving a lot of miles every day – around 6-7 K or more a month. It means that you’re break even point should come a lot sooner then 5 years. This option is profitable for them. I do not understand UPS and FedEx. They can increase their profits by converting fleet of delivery trucks to CNG.
In regards to electricity – the only alternative we have is to increase our nuclear power capacity. Today it is a cheapest and fastest way to produce more electricity and satisfy our energy needs, save environment and bring back jobs.
Wind farms are OK, but as you said – it is very expensive and requires a long time to build sizable power.
SMAS
That is not my article I did not write the articles I quoted. What I said is in black. I am sure if CNG gas was a good business decision for UPS and FedEx they would be using it. You might ask them why they are not. I would suspect it is because the availability for CNG at reasonable prices is just not there.
Nuclear will work for our electricity needs but I would not say it is our only alternative. We have been using mainly coal and we have plenty of coal and it is only unfounded global warming hysteria that prevents the building of all the coal plants we need.
The real question here is should we spend trillions on windmills to free up natural gas like Pickens wants when it will not be a very costly non solution? There are better and cheaper solutions such as electric vehicles, coal to oil conversation and domestic off shore and oil shale production.
Nobody is addressing the environmental impact of windmills. They are ugly, they kill birds, the generator hum bothers people, land value where they are near fall, huge quantities of steel and copper have to be mined to make them, and it takes a lot of energy to manufacture, transport and erect them. They also only have a twenty year lifespan.
Then when environmentalist turn against them as some already have you will not only have to pay the cost to subsidize the building of them you will also have to pay the costs of taking them down.
We need a rational approach for our dependency on foreign oil. We do not need a person who has everything to gain from windmills and natural gas to run a multimillion dollar brainwashing campaign to line the pockets of those who will stand to gain at the expense of the American people.
About “Pick-Your-Bones-Pickins”
I agree with your comments on T-Bone. Upon seeing his many hundreds of commercials,
I investigated his company and purchased some of his stock. The publicity he has received made one believe that it would be a good investment. Well, was I ever surprised when one Thursday a few weeks ago, I found out his wife SOLD 100,000
shares of their own stock in one day. Wow I thought to myself, it sure looks like they are bailing out of their own company. Surely not —guess everyone has the right to “cash-in” and spend it on a new car etc.. That was the Thursday before the BLACK Monday
crash fell upon us. Could it be we (investors) were dupped into buying driving up their
cash value just in time for them to cash it all in and run leaving the rest of us behind holding an empty bag? Interesting how they KNEW it was going to tank!! So much for insider
information being illegal! Guess it proves once again that the rich have no conscious
and can get away with anything. Even so, we still have the last laugh because in the end they will die just like us and they CAN’T take it with them! Yahoo.
hey Tbone
I’m in my IPC class and i want to know whats ur
company’s name and how long u work there…..
will talk to u later
I’m putting T BOONE in the write in canadit for Pressadent. hell i like his name can’t be any worst then the two who are running now! i want a do over . protest voter
Why vote for a slick billionaire huckster? I suggest you write in Chuck Norris we need someone who can clean house.
TBOONE , I HEARD THIS MORNING ON THE NEWS THAT YOU WERE ADOPTING A HEARD OF WILD MUSTANGS BECAUSE THAY WERE NOT BEING ADOPTED BY PEOPLE DUE TO FINANCIAL HARD SHIPS. WE’LL ABOUT ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO I ADOPTED ONE OF THOSE MUSTANGS AND THEN FOUND OUT I HAD BREAST CANCER. IFELDT I WAS FIGHTING FOR MY LIFE AND SO WAS MY NEW MUSTANG WHO WAS NOW IN A CORRAL HAVEING TO SEE A HUMAN.TOGEATHER WE BONDED WHILE I WENT THROUGH TREATMENT OF CIMO AND RADITION.LAST SATURDAY I RODE HER FOR THE FIRST TIME. WHAT A RIDE WE WERE ONE AND WILL ALWAYS BE .THANK YOU FOR LEADING AND FOR CARING.MY MUSTANG’S NAME IS BLACK BEAUTY.
SHERRY
I have news TBoone is not here at the moment. Glad you are doing well but you are totally off topic you know.
Tboone has put his saving America from foreign oil project on hold since he cannot make money anymore with the falling oil prices.