Paul Proctor — Christian leaders betray Christ for world peace: “How then can Christians join Muslims to love God together and not be an abomination before Him? We’re talking about two entirely different ‘Gods’ here – not the same God with differing names. And that’s the big lie hidden in this global agenda. By swapping love letters with Muslims, these ‘Christian leaders’ endeavor to legitimize the illegitimate by setting aside the whole counsel of God for Results & Relationships. Jesus Christ is not the Son of Allah; and to even imply that He is by claiming to love the same ‘God’ as Muslims is not only being dangerously deceitful – it’s blasphemy! “

“And that’s what this is really all about – systematically merging the two faiths into one through the dialectic process – not merely finding “common ground” or “reflecting” a “common love for God,” but actually creating a common god for the common good.
Who stands to benefit from this?
The coming antichrist, of course.
Kind of gives a whole new meaning to the term “church growth movement,” doesn’t it?”

Well said. These new Evangelicals are emerging into universalism. They know the buzz words to say when they are speaking to Christians but there agenda is not the agenda of Jesus Christ it is the agenda of the world and the Antichrist.

How deceptively they did all this. Pastors wants church growth so they developed a methodology to bring in unbelievers into the church and develop a big following. Now these Gurus will take the dumbed down Christians that remain down emerging paths of apostasy to a universal belief that demotes the Son as just another way of many ways to God.

U.S. evangelicals strive to change attitudes on AIDS U.S. Reuters: “Some Saddleback members felt uneasy at being urged to care for AIDS sufferers. ‘They felt that our job was to speak to people’s spiritual needs, that the church was about saving souls. I completely disagreed. This is historically at the heart of our Christian faith,’ she said.”

I have no problem with the church helping AIDS victims but Kay Warren’s statement above is nonsense. The Church is on earth to proclaim salvation of the soul to all who hear the Truth and believe it. How can she disagree with that? Where is that historical record that Kay Warren talks about? Where is the biblical foundation for holding that belief? If you really want to help all the dying people on this planet (we are all dying) don’t just give people a band-aid for their body give them Jesus for their soul.

Now readers should see a big part of the problem at Saddleback and the whole purpose driven movement. They have a worldly social agenda rather than a spiritual commission. They will even get into bed with secular humanists and pagans to try to fix all the things on earth that cannot be fixed because man freely chooses to live in sin.

Paula White Fakes it on Larry King Live – J. Grant Swank Jr. – Nov 27, 07: “And Paula White on Larry King Live this evening displayed herself as one of those prancing, shouting, microphone-carrying hawkers for her own purse. God help her. She needs it.”

Why would you expect anything else from the “World Faith” prosperity hucksters?

WorldNetDaily: Begging forgiveness of Islam?: “Jesus did not teach believers to seek common ground with the world. He did not teach us to conform ourselves to the ways of those who deny Him. He did not teach us to compromise our faith to find peace. He, did, however, command us to ‘Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature’ (Mark 16:15). If today’s Christian leaders want peace, they should be about the business of their Lord, spreading the Gospel to Muslims and other non-believers, rather than conducting interfaith dialogues with those who keep those non-believers in darkness. “

Berit Kjos — Shaping A New Civilization, Part 1: “Everything must be changed — especially the way we think of ourselves in relationship to the ‘greater whole.’ When applied to religion, the ‘new ways of thinking’ means setting aside ‘narrow’ or inflexible beliefs for the sake of unity, universalism and ‘common good.‘ Christianity must either bend or break. Or, as Leonard Sweet wrote in Soul Tsunami (endorsed by Rick Warren): ‘Postmodern culture is a change-or-be-changed world. The word is out: Reinvent yourself for the 21st century or die.’[11] “

Integrity, Accountability and the Grassley Investigation: “What is unfortunate about this investigation is that it had to be initiated by someone in the federal government. The Christian public should have demanded a higher level of accountability a long time ago. Why have we been silent when we know certain ministries are operating without a proper board of directors or without any accountability?”

All of the people being investigated by Senator Grassley teach a prosperity gospel. Why would anyone think that they would believe anything else for themselves? The root of the problem is the heresy that is being taught. The failure of Christians to discern biblical truths and biblical teachers is the real problem. The Word Faith people love teachers who will tickle their ears with new revelations that appeal to their flesh, rather than teachers who will teach them to mature in Christ through proper understanding of the scriptures.

Pusillanimous Pastors are Worse than Strident Atheists – Guest – Nov 05, 07: “Frankly, the people who concern me-the ones I think are more malevolent than the obstreperous atheists-are the postmodern prevaricating pastors and priests who sidestep the stout aspects of Scripture because of the pressures of political correctness.”

No matter how popular the pastor, no matter how much they grin, and no matter how much they love puppy dogs and candy canes, let’s challenge the PC priests of the new millennium to quit preaching half truths, psychobabble, trite clichés, cutesy sayings, sweet ditties and hackneyed aphorisms from their amputated Bibles. Let’s press ‘em to just deliver sound doctrine, please. Nothing fancy. No gimmicks, por favor. Tell them that you’ll get your motivational stuff from Tony Robbins or Donald Trump and that you’d really, really appreciate them giving you the ungarnished gospel of God. Be patient, as some of these guys haven’t preached the gospel in so long they might have forgotten it. However, if after correction they don’t get back on track after a few months, I’d leave that “church” and find a church that’ll deliver the goods as Graham and other great preachers of old did back in the day.

Amen!

David Jeremiah Proposes “Major Paradigm Shift” for His Church: “David Jeremiah’s 2003 book, Life Wide Open, has a subtitle of ‘Unleashing the Power of a Passionate Life.’ In the introduction of the book, Jeremiah tells readers that ‘A Small handful among us have discovered what the rest of us would pay dearly to know: How can we bring real, living excitement into this life?’ Jeremiah goes on to tell readers that ‘This book is a map to the life of passion and purpose, the life wide open…’ Who are these small handful of people who have discovered the secret? Well according to Jeremiah’s book, his list includes Rick Warren, contemplative, feminine spiritualist Sue Monk Kidd ( When the Heart Waits), contemplative Calvin Miller (Into the Depths of God), Buddhist sympathizer Peter Senge (The Fifth Discipline), emerging church leader Erwin McManus, contemplative Michael Card, and Brother Lawrence (Practicing the Presence of God). “

I think we are seeing the domino effect of the apostasy of the seeker, prosperity and emergent churches. This is a paradigm shift all right. In one generation much of “Christianity” has gone from biblical doctrine into pagan mysticism.

Paul Proctor — Are Baptists Really Better Together?: “You see, the real ‘distraction’ here is the false claim that Baptists are being divided by ‘methodological differences, generational gaps’ and ’stylistic preferences.’ This tired old argument has been coming from the bowels of the Southern Baptist Convention for years – mostly from trained facilitators who have made careers out of exploiting biblical ignorance and spinning the scriptures to promote goodwill rather than God’s Will. In spite of their claims, in most cases, it is not style or preference that is causing this deep-seated conflict – but rather conviction – meaning it is the Word of God that is dividing Baptists. “

I have noticed myself that the SBC has taken on many of the philosophies of the world. They are using the same type of facilitators and consensus builders that brought politically correct team concepts to government and corporations. Truth is what the majority can come to consensus on and not necessarily what is true.

I also see it in their Sunday school programs where they all now use quarterlies magazines made up by teams in Nashville that indoctrinate the whole Southern Baptist Convention. The magazines have all but replaced the Bible and Bible studies with Lifeway’s views about what the Bible says. It has generally replaced sound exegesis of the Bible with weekly applications for living a more abundant life. The SBC claims to be made up of independent churches but almost everyone in the convention is following the teachings of a hand full of national leaders who are sometimes way off the mark.

Paul Proctor is correct, there are some issues we need to stay separated on because a little leaven leavens the whole loaf.

Mitt Romney’s Purpose-Driven Pandering – Adam Graham – Oct 17, 07: “He talked about no matter what region of the country he was in, the values were all the same across America. He began to list these American values: “We believe in hard work; we believe in education; we believe in the sanctity of life; we believe in marriage; we believe in God.” At this point, the speech took a bizarre turn. “Even those of us who don’t believe in God believe in something greater than ourselves, as Rick Warren calls it, ‘Purpose Driven Life.’” “

I can see why Mitt Romney believes what he believes about Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Life. Rick Warren seems confused on the issue himself. He says it is written to Christians to Christians and for the secular crowd he peddles it as a success book for everyone. I have read the book and it does indicate that everyone needs to find their purpose in Life, even non believers. Actually the writer of this article seems a little confused about what is in the book.

The Growing Phenomena of American “Hebrew” Cults – CWN

More apostasy has hit the Bible Belt. A new wave of Gentile pseudo-Christians are calling themselves Israelites with an elite interpretation of the Scriptures. These “seekers” meet in homes to “restore Israel”, proselytizing God’s elect personally with their anomalous books and message, putting truly saved Christians to shame with their “remnant” zeal.

People who once called themselves “Christians” and who used to go to church on Sundays are now “repenting” from such practices. It is arguable that the name “Constantine” is mentioned far more than “Jesus” in this movement, though both names are referred to often with disdain. It is commonly held in the groups that the term “Christian” is a disingenuous misnomer introduced to followers of “Yeshua” mistakenly through Constantine. Constantine, they teach, is also responsible for the “pagan” holidays “Christians” celebrate such as Christmas, Easter/Resurrection Sunday, and birthdays. Constantine appears to be given more credit than God’s sovereignty and the authenticity of the Bible, as Constantine is to blame for the tradition of going to church on Sundays, too. These cell groups have become quite a phenomena in spite of any attempt from traditional Christians to point these “newfound Israelites” to the Scriptures taken in context. This avantgarde is a crafty, anti-Semitic scheme from Satan, as these “messianic believers” are held captive by another spirit, another “Yeshua”, and another gospel to live as “Israelites.” Some of these groups hint (while others outright teach), that “Ephriamites [caveat: they are actually Gentiles] through faith in Yeshua” own the land of Israel. It is anti-Semitic to purport that the land of Israel belongs to a group of Gentiles claiming to be “Israelites”, “Ephriamites”, or “Jews” when they are in reality Gentiles! The land of Israel does not belong to a group of eccentric Gentiles, just because they claim to own it. Sales for country ham in the South may be on the decline as the groups grow, because these “Gentile/Jews” don’t eat pork.

The Hebrew Roots Movement is an American aggregate of home based Bible studies with various names, led often by women. The authentic Christian is challenged to write about such groups, because they all have different names, and “facilitators” argue that many attendees “believe different things” when challenged with sound doctrine. However, the spirit at work is revealed conclusively as core convictions are shared by “facilitators” and leaders of the movement.

Please read the entire article about this new demonic deceptive and delusional cult that may be in your neighborhood disguised as a home Bible study or a home church.

Theologian Says Bible Does Not Condemn Gays Christianpost.com
Jack Rogers, professor of Theology Emeritus at San Francisco Theological Seminary, is trying to get a positive word out in the Christian churches about the gay and lesbian community and thinks churches should be leading the charge for their equal rights.
“I’m trying to help people understand that the Bible rightly interpreted, which I would think is through the lens of Jesus’ redemptive life and ministry … does not condemn Christian people who are gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgendered,” said Rogers, according to The Lawrence Journal-World.

He makes that argument in the book Jesus, the Bible and Homosexuality: Explode the Myths, Heal the Church. The former Fuller Theological Seminary professor and former moderator of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) launched his fall book tour last week and is currently making stops at churches and ministries to speak on the controversial topic.
Rogers says those who argue that the Bible condemns gays and lesbians are taking biblical literalism too far and feels there is excessively negative words in the religious community, according to the Journal-World.

This theologian is mixing apples and oranges. Jesus saves all who trust in Him. Jesus does not condemn those who repent of their own way and trust in Him for salvation. Yet, Jesus knows the consequences of sin and that is why He paid for it on the cross and why He tells people who sinned to go and sin no more.

Those who flaunt their sins are obviously trying to legitimize living in their sinfulness and that is contrary to New Testament teaching for the Christian. Many homosexuals are in open rebellion against God and by their actions they prove they choose to live in their sins rather than to be freed from them by Jesus. When they make their digesting public displays in their gay events they are displaying their rebellion against God’s commandments.

Jesus does not condemn sinners, they condemn themselves by never coming to Him so that He can make them into a new creation that will hate the sins of the flesh. This theologian seems to indicate they Jesus would support those living contrary to the Law. Nothing could be further from the truth. Jesus fulfilled the law for them but all who are now His have the Law written in their hearts. We simply do not see the love of the Law in evidence in the perversions embraced by homosexuals.

To say that the Church should be leading the charge for equal rights of perverted people is absurd. They already have equal rights, what they want is perverted rights. If we supported that, we would be endorsing sinful choices that lead to the death of the body, the soul and civil society. Where did the rise of all the filth that we see come from if not from people choosing to live in sinful lifestyles? If you do not believe homosexuality leads to death of the body, look at the lifespan differences between homosexuals and heterosexuals. Statistic don’t lie.

Most of the Christian right understands the difference between sin and those who embrace sin and promote it. We do not need a liberal to explain demented, delusional and dumb explainations of the truths of scripture.

Christians do not condemn homosexuals. We show them the way of escape from it and we try to protect others from being corrupted by the deceitfulness of sinful lifestyles which degrade mankind and corrupts the world. We are the light of the world but if the light does not shine in the dark places what good is it?

Call for Jews to stop calling Jesus a bastard – Telegraph: “A senior American cardinal has asked Jews to reconsider descriptions of Jesus as a ‘bastard’ in exchange for a softening of traditional Catholic prayers calling for Jews to be converted to Christianity.”

The Cardinal misses the whole point of Christians praying for Jews. This is not some tit-for-tat issue. Christians pray for Jews for them to believe in Jesus as their Messiah because He is. Until the Jews face that truth they will not know their Messiah and cannot be saved through Him.

In fact, most of Christianity is missing the point as well do to the fact that most do not truly know or believe what Jesus said.

People in other religious are not worshiping the Creator. The Creator was revealed to man in Jesus Christ. All people must come to God through Jesus Christ because God provided no other way.

Since non Christian religion be it Jew, Muslim or any other will not accept this truth, they make a substitute God based on the thoughts of men who never knew God and they worship that. It is not the Creator they worship, it is a false idol that was made in minds of men.

FOXNews.com – Oral Roberts University President Says God Is Telling Him to Deny Allegations in Scandal – Local News News Articles National News US News: “Twenty years ago, televangelist Oral Roberts said he was reading a spy novel when God appeared to him and told him to raise $8 million for Roberts’ university, or else he would be “called home.”

“Now, his son, Oral Roberts University President Richard Roberts, says God is speaking again, telling him to deny lurid allegations in a lawsuit that threatens to engulf this 44-year-old Bible Belt college in scandal. Richard Roberts is accused of illegal involvement in a local political campaign and lavish spending at donors’ expense, including numerous home remodeling projects, use of the university jet for his daughter’s senior trip to the Bahamas, and a red Mercedes convertible and a Lexus SUV for his wife, Lindsay. She is accused of dropping tens of thousands of dollars on clothes, awarding nonacademic scholarships to friends of her children and sending scores of text messages on university-issued cell phones to people described in the lawsuit as ‘underage males.’ At a chapel service this week on the 5,300-student campus known for its 60-foot-tall bronze sculpture of praying hands, Roberts said God told him: ‘We live in a litigious society. Anyone can get mad and file a lawsuit against another person whether they have a legitimate case or not. This lawsuit … is about intimidation, blackmail and extortion.’”

The apple does not fall far from the tree.

There can only be One True Church – Kevin Roeten – Oct 04, 07

If one goes back to early Christianity, it can be determined that it was started in 33 A.D.—when the Holy Sprit descended and made the apostles the first priests, bishops, and pope. He also gave Peter the power to either “retain, or forgive sins”, because He knew He would be ascending soon. He gave Peter the keys to the kingdom, and the head of the Church on earth. All of this is recorded in the gospel. There is no question. The keys were the power of truth.

I think I have heard enough BS coming from several authors postings on this website on why Catholicism is the one true Church. I am not going to waste my time on refuting each point although each point can be throughly refuted. Let’s just get to the core of the issue.

There is only on true Church it is the members of the body of Christ. This Church are those people who have been baptized into the body of Christ by Jesus when they believed that Jesus was Lord and trusted in Him for their salvation. The Church has members in many denomination but no denomination can claim to be the Church.

This fellow is generally arguing why Catholicism is the one true Church from the dogma fed to him by Catholicism. What is the point in that? No Protestant believes these Catholic views are valid. So it is not logical and it is a waste of time to make arguments to other denominations that only your own Church believes.

The Mormon and many others can also tell you why they are the only true Church from their own dogma. Do you believe them? If you want to argue why Catholicism is the one true Church the only reliable argument you can use is from the scriptures. You do misuse some scriptures in your article because you read into them your Catholic dogma. If you use church dogma instead of proper exegesis anyone can make their denomination the one true Church. Congratulations!

However, the truth taught in scripture makes it abundantly clear that the one true Church are all believers who believe that Jesus is Lord. I make that abundantly clear in my article on how one is saved and how one really becomes a member of the one true Church.