If Mexico does not win this battle on drug trafficking we will end up with a hostile nation on our south border. Then we will be forced to send our military to defend our south border. The first thing we need to do is to start posting that anyone crossing into the U.S. illegally from Mexico is subject to deadly force and give our border patrol the weapons, technology and the backing to carry out that policy.

I don’t care what some are saying about the danger this would bring to the innocent illegals that are only coming across to make a living. They are only coming across now because they know they can. Besides, they are already in great danger by those who smuggle them like cattle along with their drugs - hundreds die each year. Common people in Mexico will soon get the message that you do not cross into the U.S illegally if we truly enforce our borders.

How do Liberal “compassionate” supporters of illegal entry rationalize that this policy is causing thousands of deaths and lawlessness in Mexico? Not to mention that drug running across our south border helps to kill many thousands of Americans and ruin the lives of millions through drug addiction. Is that compassion? Sometimes you need tough laws to protect people from the greedy predators of the world.

They say if we tighten up enforcement of our borders some poor workers might get killed but they totally ignore the fact that many thousands are being killed and that whole nations are being subverted by drug cartels.

Sometimes you have to fight to protect a civil society. Do sane people want drug cartels running Mexico? I assure you it will not have a good outcome. Now is the time to put pressure on our own government to join forces with President Calderon to ruthlessly crush the drug cartels. We also need to crush drug gangs in our own nation that have virtually taken over our inner cities. Now please don’t talk to me about the gang’s civil rights when the civil rights of millions of city dwellers have already been taken away by the gangs.

New Mexican ‘revolución’ crosses border, infects U.S.

In the 18 months since President Felipe Calderon took office vowing to defeat the cartels, the Mexican army, increasingly equipped with modern American-made arms, vehicles and communication, has been deployed across the country in a running battle against the cartels. The death toll is rising. The cartels have executed more than 4,000 people: judges, police chiefs and officers, mayors, military commanders and rival gang members, in a continuing battle over control of territory, particularly in the states of Chihuahua, Sinaloa and Durango. Portions of the Mexican army have been compromised, and many Mexican soldiers are now cartel enforcers.

The danger now is that revenue from smuggling is so great that cartels can not only bribe officials to get their way, but they can permanently buy off (or kill off) key army, government, political and media figures, rendering Mexico a state dominated by the cartels. Things can get much worse in Mexico than they are today. And that means, things can get much worse for America, too. President Calderon deserves U.S. support as he fights the smuggling cartels for control of Mexico

Those who rant about the war in Iraq might consider the domestic war in the U.S. It is far more destructive.

War on 2 fronts: Abroad … and at home

Eminent historians Will and Ariel Durant said, “The family is the nucleus of civilization.” As bad as the Iraq war and its costs are, the battles here on our own soil are worse. And costlier.

We’d better call for an all-out “surge” in this domestic war, while we still have the resources, courage – and liberty – to do it.

If Chuck Norris were the head of Homeland Security we would really have homeland security. The Area 51 solution would punch the lights out of the drug runners and terrorists coming across our borders.

Border fence fiasco

If these solutions don’t stop the tides of illegal flow in and out of our borders, a friend of mine has a Texas-tough alternative and answer to replace the government’s virtual fence failure. In fact, he says, we don’t need a security fence at all. All we need to do is to post signs and position manned trucks at key points, just like our government does at Area 51, the top secret military airfield in remote central Nevada, around which there are no fences or walls. There is never a breach or unwanted border crossing there, at least that we hear about! And why? Because the boundary sign reads and is never questioned, “Warning: Use of deadly force authorized.”

The Federal government could have built a double wired patrolled fence like patriot groups suggested. Now those who supported a fence that they knew could not work are saying we told you so. Some of us are not total idiots. If government knows how to build fences to keep people in they can also build fences to keep people out.

FOXNews.com - Feds Frustrated by Illegal Immigrants Passing Through Holes in New Border Fence - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

Illegal immigrants armed with torches, hacksaws, ladders and even bungee cords are making it around a section of the border fence hailed as the most efficient way to stop them.

Wake up America, nobody in the front running or in office have any intentions to finish the fence. When you get the next socialist administration the amnesty bill will sail through so fast that no one will be able to coordinate an opposition. After that national socialist laws will be passed to pay the social costs of all these new American citizens.

So much for the will of the people. Politicians simply do not give a damn about what the people in this country want and most people are too stupid to know or care about the impact this will have on America. Then all the recent state laws will be circumvented and we will will get what so many people fought to stop last year.

When they find themselves fighting for jobs in America with the new immigrants they may figure it all out but it will be a little too late to do anything about it.

When you elect a President that you know will not enforce the borders, uphold the constitution, and that will create a welfare state on the backs of hard working tax paying citizens you can just blame yourself.

Katrina Nation

Let it be said: Our border can be secured; the illegal aliens can be sent home; the magnets that draw them here can be turned off. This crisis can be resolved if the courage and will are there. Unfortunately, we have a government that does not seem to care and probable nominees neither of whom is committed in his heart to doing it.Given the manifest will of the people that this invasion from the south be halted and rolled back, the 2008 election is shaping up as yet further confirmation that American democracy is a fraud.

I think Ann Colter has McCain figured out. I wonder why many conservative Republicans have not caught on?

clipped from www.worldnetdaily.com John McCain is Bob Dole minus the charm, conservatism and youth. Like McCain, pollsters assured us that Dole was the most “electable” Republican. Unlike McCain, Dole didn’t lie all the time while claiming to engage in Straight Talk.Of course, I might lie constantly too, if I were seeking the Republican presidential nomination after enthusiastically promoting amnesty for illegal aliens, Social Security credit for illegal aliens, criminal trials for terrorists, stem-cell research on human embryos, crackpot global warming legislation and free speech-crushing campaign-finance laws. I might lie too, if I had opposed the Bush tax cuts, a marriage amendment to the Constitution, waterboarding terrorists and drilling in Alaska.

The control freaks of this nation want to tag, monitor, and track us like animals. They will accomplish this one step at a time until they achieve their goals. If people in this country allow these big Brother controls over themselves they will only have themselves to blame.

In the second half of the article it gives a good list of what can be done to stop illegals and terrorists in this country without this databasing of all Americans.

“In this age of terrorism and out-of-control illegal immigration, it is a
growing belief by many Americans that we must all be regulated, restricted, licensed, registered, directed, checked, inspected, measured, numbered, counted, stamped, authorized, fined, harassed, disarmed, exploited and taxed in the name of protection. Trouble is, that outlook is just plain wrong, and it isn’t freedom.”

Ann Coulter makes a pretty good case why no conservative would be singing the same tune as the Huckster

“Huckabee is a compassionate conservative” only in the sense that calling him a conservative is being compassionate.”

“He supports a nationwide smoking ban anyplace where people work,
constitutional protection for sodomy, big government, higher taxes and
government benefits for illegal aliens. According to my calculations, that
puts him about three earmarks away from being Nancy Pelosi.”

The Incredible Disappearing Border Fence - HUMAN EVENTS: “More than a year after the law’s passage, the citizen watchdog group Grassfire reports that just five miles of double-layer fencing has been built in the first 12 months of implementation of the act. Five lousy miles. The Government Accountability Office claims 70 miles were erected — but most of that fencing failed to meet the specifications of the law.

Is Congress up in arms? Will there be accountability? Don’t make me snort. Instead of demanding that the law be enforced, the pols are sabotaging the law. As part of the omnibus spending package passed this week, House Democrats incorporated Senate Republicans’ provisions to remove the two-layer fencing requirements and the specific target list of fencing locations.”

They had no intentions of building the border security fence. It was all a sham for appeasement. They knew they would not fund the actual building of the fence that was required. They were just waiting for Americans to fall asleep like usual. If they really wanted a fence it would be built by now. Once the elections are over you can be sure there will be an amnesty bill that will get passed attached to some other bill over the wishes of the American people. The fact of the matter is that on every front the people have now lost control of government.

WorldNetDaily: Bill guts border fence requirement: “‘Pulling back from the double-fence mandate is a prescription for failure that will only allow more smugglers, criminals and illegal aliens to enter the United States through our land border with Mexico,’ the California congressman added.
‘If enacted,’ Hunter concluded, ‘this legislation would represent a significant step backwards in the effort to secure our borders.’”

“I find it odd that such an important amendment which releases DHS from specific requirements of an existing law would be passed by a simple voice vote in the Senate and then buried in the massive omnibus bill,” Elliott said.
“The American people reasonably expect that a double-layer fence will be built, but Congress has always had other plans,” he argued. “This amendment should be stripped from the bill.”
Hunter agreed.

FOXNews.com - Border Patrol Agents Fire Tear Gas Over Border at Mexican Attackers - Local News News Articles National News US News: “The agency’s top official in San Diego, Mike Fisher, said agents are taking action because Mexican authorities have been slow to respond. When an attack happens, he said, American authorities often wait hours for them to come, and help usually never arrives.”

With houses right on the border innocent people are getting in the crossfire. Nevertheless, it is up to Mexico to establish order in their own country. So those who live on the border should ask thier own government why they are doing nothing to stop the civil violence. Another solution would be to move because you really cannot expect American border patrol agents to be attacked daily without responding to protect themselves.

Spending bill shrinks border fence - - The Washington Times, America’s Newspaper: “Congress last night passed a giant new spending bill that undermines current plans for a U.S.-Mexico border fence, allowing the Homeland Security Department to build a single-tier barrier rather than the two-tier version that has worked in California.

The spending bill, written by Democrats and passed 253-154 with mostly their votes, surrenders to President Bush’s budget demands, meeting his spending limit with a $515 billion bill to fund most of the federal government and setting up votes to pay for the Iraq war. But Democrats reached his goal in part by slashing his defense and foreign-aid priorities to pay for added domestic spending.”

How did we know they would try to pull this on us? Congress obviously has no intention of doing what Americans want. We want a double fence with a patrolled road in-between to keep out drug runners, illegals and terrorists. We do not want a single wire fence that anyone can cut through. If congress will not get with the national security program I suggest we replace them all.

Worries as EU’s Schengen borders expand east - Telegraph: “Knut Paul, the head of Germany’s police trade union, has warned that the new Schengen members will not be able to defend the EU’s borders. ‘We are exposing ourselves to the threat of being swamped by criminals and illegal immigrants,’ he said.
On its visit to the border between Hungary and the Ukraine, The Sunday Telegraph found evidence of serious weaknesses in controls over immigrants from outside the EU. Officials said that they caught fewer than a third of those attempting to cross illegally.”

The EU has its own illegal immigration problem.

Border patrol politics - - The Washington Times, America’s Newspaper: “Just two years ago, Mr. Huckabee appeared before the open-borders Hispanic group, The League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), preaching an open-door policy. According to the Arkansas News Bureau, Mr. Huckabee also criticized state legislation requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote and enhanced reporting of illegal aliens as un-Christian, un-American, irresponsible and anti-life — not to mention ‘inflammatory,’ ‘race-baiting’ and ‘demagoguery.’

Just last year, Mr. Huckabee lambasted opponents of the bipartisan ‘shamnesty‘ bill providing a mass pardon to illegal aliens as ‘driven by racism or nativism.’ He called strict immigration enforcement — the kind he now supports — ’sheer folly’ in his campaign-timed book released earlier this year.”

All of a sudden Huckabee wants a fence but history and “Lips Law” (whatever a politician says while running for office he will do the opposite when elected) says that once he gets in office it will be the end of the fence. Huckabee certainly will sign any amnesty bill.

Wrong Information May Lead to Passage of Very Bad Immigration Bill! - CWN: “Some of our allies in the fight to stop illegal immigration are circulating alerts asking you to support the SAVE Act (H.R. 4088). This bill, otherwise known as the ‘Secure America Through Verification and Enforcement Act of 2007′ is said to have strong bi-partisan support and is on a fast track for passage. The American Policy Center has read this legislation and is issuing this alert AGAINST the SAVE Act. Here’s why:”

It seems that many in government just does what it wants in total disregard of the will of the American people

‘Jobs Americans Won’t Do?’ - Dave Gibson - Nov 24, 07: “The greedy Peabody family has been able to pocket $7 million over the last few years because they have imported Third World slaves to work on their boats. They have basically eliminated their payroll. Unfortunately, they are not alone. Greedy employers all across this nation are hiring Latin American invaders to provide them with the kind of dirt cheap labor on which Americans simply cannot support their families. It is impossible for American workers to compete with Third World labor. Just as the White House and Congress have betrayed us, far too many U.S. businesses have done the same thing. The next time you hear someone (like John McCain) repeating the tired old line that ‘illegal immigrants only do the jobs that Americans won’t do’…Tell them that smells fishy!”

Lawmen under siege along Mexico border - - The Washington Times, America’s Newspaper: “U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the investigative arm of Homeland Security, stated in a report earlier this year that border gangs were becoming increasingly ruthless — targeting rivals, along with federal, state and local police. ICE described violence on the border as rising dramatically over the past three years in what it called ‘an unprecedented surge.’ But many agents think they are viewed as ‘expendable’ by the managers within Homeland Security and the Border Patrol. They say that while the number of agents overall has increased dramatically over the past year, the actual number of line agents has not seen a corresponding jump.”

All the more reason why we need to get that fence up pronto and give the Border Patrol the arms, equipment and men they need to fight this invasion.

Bipartisan bill counters amnesty agenda (OneNewsNow.com): “First-term Congressman Heath Shuler (D-North Carolina) says he introduced the ‘Secure America Through Verification and Enforcement Act of 2007′ (or the SAVE Act of 2007) because it is exactly what the American people want. HR 4088 would add 8,000 Border Patrol agents and give them new technology and infrastructure needed to secure the country’s northern and southern borders. It would also add 1,200 Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents. Shuler says Americans have a right to be upset with their government for not taking action to curb illegal immigration.”

Holy cow! A Democrat sponsoring a bill that deals with illegal immigration that seems to make sense.

WorldNetDaily: Feds to hold ’sanctuaries’ accountable: “‘we’re not going to tolerate people blatantly disregarding our laws. It’s a disservice to our nation to have people turn a blind eye to our laws.’ She said such cases won’t all be identical, and probably won’t be handled identically. ‘I think what we have is fundamentally, our state and local governments are trying to impede the department and the federal government’s responsibility to enforce our laws to the point that it’s a concern,’ she told WND. ‘The secretary has made it clear we’re not going to lay back. We will vigorously fight whatever [impedes] federal law.’ “

The Thompson Border Security Plan - Doug Hagin - Nov 02, 07
Ultimately, the immigration debate comes down to one crucial question. Are we to be a sovereign nation or not? Clearly, Fred Thompson grasps this point. Instead of trying to appease the race mongers and cheap labor addicts Thompson is, again, looking at what is best for this nation.This issue is not racial; it is about law, order, and America’s sovereignty. Conservatives see this, and by golly all those Conservatives who have been looking for a leader that also understands better look at Fred Thompson. There is a lot more to Thompson’s plan and it is all very promising. Anyone questioning my endorsement of Thompson should check out the entire plan at Thompson’s campaign site. http://www.fred08.com/virtual/Immigration.aspx

It looks like a good plan to me but how do you get it through all the political cowards in the US congress? If the Republicans are not going to take over the House it has zero chance of passing there. Even if the Republicans win all seats open for election in the Senate it has zero chance of getting through there. So anyone can come up with a plan that appeals to the conservatives when they know they will never be able to carry their plan out.

Oklahoma! - Citizen Conservative - Nov 01, 07: “That is so because U.S. District Judge James H. Payne denied a request for a Preliminary Injunction against H.B. 1804, Oklahoma’s common sense bill for dealing with the out-of-control invasion by illegal aliens. As a result, H.B. 1804 is now the law of the land in Oklahoma. Let the self-deportations and state-assisted deportations begin! Are you listening Eliot Spitzer and Hillary Clinton?”

Spitzer and Hillary are not listening. They are too busy trying to get illegals into New York state so they will vote Democrat.

Of course you do know if Hillary or any major from New York gets elected to become President, Oklahoma is going to have to secede from the Union? They will find a way to overturned your state immigration law.

When you become a new country leave some room for me.

Gang in L.A. is dealt a ‘blow’ - - The Washington Times, America’s Newspaper: “Drug-enforcement agents swept through Los Angeles this week in the second major wave of arrests of members and associates of a violent Hispanic street gang known as Florencia 13, who have targeted rival blacks and others ‘who got in the way’ of their efforts to control parts of the city.”

Good work, now get the other thousands of gang members that control many of our cities.

WorldNetDaily: Reid reviving ‘amnesty’ for illegals: “‘In many ways this bill is worse than Bush-Kennedy because this is blatant deception on the part of the Senate to get a massive amnesty passed,’ asserted Steve Elliott, president of Grassfire.org. “

“Reid is hell-bent on getting this amnesty through the Senate as fast as possible and before we can fully mobilize the country as happened when we defeated his Comprehensive Amnesty bill in June,” the group said. “He is using the Rule 14 … to avoid any committee debate, hearings or deliberations. Filing for cloture means that he can bring the amnesty up on Wednesday.”

Harry Reid continues to bypass the will of the people. It is time that this embarssment to Nevada and the nation was removed from office and put out to pasture.

Illinois a sanctuary state? (OneNewsNow.com): Beck says places like Illinois will remain out of control when it comes to aiding and abetting illegals. “The governor himself [Rod Blagojevich] has basically declared the entire state of Illinois a sanctuary for illegal aliens, [and] has prohibited any employer from even using the federal program to verify whether a person is an illegal alien or not,”

Each City and State might have the right to do what they want. However, don’t expect federal taxpayers from other states to pay for your Robin Hood program for people who dwell in this country illegally. If the states and cities do not comply with federal laws they should not get Federal funds to pay for their give away programs to illegals. Also, do not ask Americans to bail your state out when it goes bankrupt.