Paul Proctor — Betrayal of Christ by Christian Leaders Continues: “In a December 17th 2007 article titled, Rick Warren Counsels Jews on Recruiting Congregants, the Christian Post reported that the beloved senior pastor and founder of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest California, a Southern Baptist congregation, ‘attended a large Reform Jewish gathering last week to share tips on how to build a community.’
So, instead of sharing Christ with his Jewish audience, Pastor Warren shared ‘tips on how to build a community?’”

He obviously has too many purpose driven seekers on his hands and wants the Jews to entertain them for awhile. Why else would he want to help build Jewish congregations?

“Why is this double-minded man still pastoring a Southern Baptist church? What does he have to do to get fired? And why do SBC pastors continue to teach and promote his books, his programs, his sermons and his P.E.A.C.E. Plan when apparently being Purpose Driven doesn’t even require faith in Christ?
If anyone can be Purpose Driven, then who needs Jesus?”

I think you know why they they still promote Rick Warren. You stated it below.

In California you are going to find thousands of people who think like Rick Warren and thus, they attend his church. Also remember he tells those who do not agree with his program to find another church, many have. That is why he does not get fired, he has like minded people in his congregation. He is not unique in America, even much more doubled minded people have large followings. Americans just tend to worship media stars.

“Unfortunately, too many of today’s pastors, both inside and outside the Southern Baptist Convention have totally invested themselves and their churches into the Purpose Driven paradigm. To speak up now and rebuke Warren publicly would require they admit to their colleagues and congregations that they were wrong about the man and his teachings. And with so much pride at stake and so many careers and ministries in the balance, I dare say there aren’t many out there who would be willing to step forward to confess and repent.”

Mike Huckabee for President – Blogs – Dr. Rick Warren Statement: “what I find most appealing is his self-deprecating humor. That’s a key sign of a spiritually and emotionally healthy leader – someone who is comfortable with himself, is authentic, doesn’t wear a mask, and is secure enough to be humble. People love that.””

I have been told that Mike Huckabee had a Purpose Driven Church. I have no reason to believe that this is not true. I do know that Huckabee endorses Kenneth Copeland and does not know what Mormons believe, which says wonders about Him.

The link above is an endorsement that Rick Warren made on Mike Huckabee.

Notice that Rick Warren thinks that a self-deprecating sense of human is the key sign of a spiritually and emotionally healthy leader. I am sure Jesus and Paul would have a different opinion. I guess Rodney Dangerfield was quite a spiritual leader in Rick Warren’s eyes.

WorldNetDaily: Rick Warren’s distortions of reality: “Rick Warren loves to apologize for things he didn’t do, for things other people did that weren’t wrong, even for things that occurred hundreds of years before he was born. “

I have noticed over the years that Rick Warren just panders to the audience. What he says to Christians on a issue will not necessarily be be what he says to the media or the world power brokers on the same issue. His message is typically post-modern where truth is relative and adjustable to those being pandered to for his own end.

This is why he is signing on to wordily agendas and then apologizing or having to rationalize to other Christians why he jumped on board. Then to appease them he says he did not agree with much of what he signed??? You can’t love the world and the things of the world and make it your dominion and also appeal to those who know the dominion for Christians is not of this world, or at least not of this evil age. I think Rick Warren too often is found on both sides of the fence.

Handling Disunity – Rick Warren’s Way – CWN: “Warren begins his November 17 email by stating that the Bible speaks more about unity then of Heaven and Hell. Though I haven’t taken the time to count up the references yet, I am confident that this isn’t so. Let me ask, what about references insisting that we ministers hold to sound doctrine Rick? Does unity outweigh that too? It would appear so at least in Warrenessee. Warren concludes by telling his estimated 400,000+ readers that disunity is Satan’s greatest weapon against the Church. What? While it might be construed as progress that Rick Warren even acknowledges the existence of Satan, to espouse the notion that disunity is the Devil’s chief weapon is not just poor theology. It is a lie. Sins, such as greed and lust, are Satan’s greatest weapon against the Church. However, if Rick Warren is able to make these statements unchallenged then slothfulness and biblical ignorance are obviously gaining ground.”

WorldNetDaily: Global warming and Christian discernment
One of the reasons my children are homeschooled is to avoid the brainwashing they would received in either public schools or even private schools on issues like global warming.
Last week, I learned that one of my children is being taught about the crisis global warming represents in a Christian homeschool cooperative biology class!
It’s bad enough my oldest daughter was forced to endure repeated and required showings of Al Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth” in an art class in a public college. But now we see this agitprop deceiving even those who should know better.
Nowhere in the Bible does God directly or indirectly warn us of the dangers of carbon dioxide, a natural, non-polluting gas as necessary to life on our planet as oxygen.
Instead, God warns us about a real pollutant in our environment. It’s called sin.
Is there not enough real sin in the world for Christians to combat? Why do believers emulate the world in worrying about a phantom crisis that doesn’t threaten the natural life or eternal fate of even one person on the planet? Where is the ability of these believers to discern truth from fiction?

Rick Warren and Dissent – CWN: “Rick, if you don’t want the reputation of offering condom-driven solutions, stop inviting these political left-wingers to your church. Even Salon Magazine has noted Saddleback’s “left-wing” turn. If you want to dance with the devil, don’t blame sincere Christians for reporting on it.”

WorldNetDaily: Why Warren embraces Hillary: “It’s more than an effort at bipartisanship and consensus-building that causes Saddleback Church Pastor Rick Warren to embrace Hillary Clinton in his efforts to battle AIDS. It is the fact that they share a mistaken and dangerous commitment to expensive, extra-constitutional, globe-trotting, international socialist spending policies by the U.S. government in waging that battle.”

“So why turn to the government? Why not turn to the affluent church in the U.S.?
Is the church really too small and too ineffective at taking on this challenge? Is that the way the Bible instructs us to think and act as believers? Don’t we serve a God bigger even than the federal government in Washington, D.C.?
Do you see my problem with this kind of thinking?
I don’t want to discourage people from trying to do good – especially believers. But it is important to follow the biblical prescription for good works. Nowhere in the Bible do I see believers called to force people to join their ministry. Nowhere in the Bible do I see believers called to lobby government to take on its burdens. Nowhere in the Bible do I see believers “partnering” with government because the church is “too poor” to accomplish its objectives.
This is worldly thinking.
The church’s job is to minister to people in need to demonstrate the glory of the One they serve. How can the church do that when they are yoked to government’s confiscating money by force from people.”

Well Rick Warren is not a member of the CFR for no reason. He is a globalist who thinks that government and world religion should be working hand in hand to solve all of man’s problems. It sounds good from a socialist human point of view but it really is a form of dominionism. It plays no role in bringing the world the gospel of salvation in Jesus Christ. On the contrary, these people operate under the false assumption that man without a spiritual transformation can solve mankind’s problems on the earth. That is deceptive and delusional thinking, it is not biblical teaching.

Paul Proctor — Christian leaders betray Christ for world peace: “How then can Christians join Muslims to love God together and not be an abomination before Him? We’re talking about two entirely different ‘Gods’ here – not the same God with differing names. And that’s the big lie hidden in this global agenda. By swapping love letters with Muslims, these ‘Christian leaders’ endeavor to legitimize the illegitimate by setting aside the whole counsel of God for Results & Relationships. Jesus Christ is not the Son of Allah; and to even imply that He is by claiming to love the same ‘God’ as Muslims is not only being dangerously deceitful – it’s blasphemy! “

“And that’s what this is really all about – systematically merging the two faiths into one through the dialectic process – not merely finding “common ground” or “reflecting” a “common love for God,” but actually creating a common god for the common good.
Who stands to benefit from this?
The coming antichrist, of course.
Kind of gives a whole new meaning to the term “church growth movement,” doesn’t it?”

Well said. These new Evangelicals are emerging into universalism. They know the buzz words to say when they are speaking to Christians but there agenda is not the agenda of Jesus Christ it is the agenda of the world and the Antichrist.

How deceptively they did all this. Pastors wants church growth so they developed a methodology to bring in unbelievers into the church and develop a big following. Now these Gurus will take the dumbed down Christians that remain down emerging paths of apostasy to a universal belief that demotes the Son as just another way of many ways to God.

U.S. evangelicals strive to change attitudes on AIDS U.S. Reuters: “Some Saddleback members felt uneasy at being urged to care for AIDS sufferers. ‘They felt that our job was to speak to people’s spiritual needs, that the church was about saving souls. I completely disagreed. This is historically at the heart of our Christian faith,’ she said.”

I have no problem with the church helping AIDS victims but Kay Warren’s statement above is nonsense. The Church is on earth to proclaim salvation of the soul to all who hear the Truth and believe it. How can she disagree with that? Where is that historical record that Kay Warren talks about? Where is the biblical foundation for holding that belief? If you really want to help all the dying people on this planet (we are all dying) don’t just give people a band-aid for their body give them Jesus for their soul.

Now readers should see a big part of the problem at Saddleback and the whole purpose driven movement. They have a worldly social agenda rather than a spiritual commission. They will even get into bed with secular humanists and pagans to try to fix all the things on earth that cannot be fixed because man freely chooses to live in sin.

WorldNetDaily: Begging forgiveness of Islam?: “Jesus did not teach believers to seek common ground with the world. He did not teach us to conform ourselves to the ways of those who deny Him. He did not teach us to compromise our faith to find peace. He, did, however, command us to ‘Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature’ (Mark 16:15). If today’s Christian leaders want peace, they should be about the business of their Lord, spreading the Gospel to Muslims and other non-believers, rather than conducting interfaith dialogues with those who keep those non-believers in darkness. “

David Jeremiah Proposes “Major Paradigm Shift” for His Church: “David Jeremiah’s 2003 book, Life Wide Open, has a subtitle of ‘Unleashing the Power of a Passionate Life.’ In the introduction of the book, Jeremiah tells readers that ‘A Small handful among us have discovered what the rest of us would pay dearly to know: How can we bring real, living excitement into this life?’ Jeremiah goes on to tell readers that ‘This book is a map to the life of passion and purpose, the life wide open…’ Who are these small handful of people who have discovered the secret? Well according to Jeremiah’s book, his list includes Rick Warren, contemplative, feminine spiritualist Sue Monk Kidd ( When the Heart Waits), contemplative Calvin Miller (Into the Depths of God), Buddhist sympathizer Peter Senge (The Fifth Discipline), emerging church leader Erwin McManus, contemplative Michael Card, and Brother Lawrence (Practicing the Presence of God). “

I think we are seeing the domino effect of the apostasy of the seeker, prosperity and emergent churches. This is a paradigm shift all right. In one generation much of “Christianity” has gone from biblical doctrine into pagan mysticism.

Shamanism in the Church The Berean Call: A number of prominent ministries use the eagle as a corporate symbol, and most of these do so quite innocently. But research into the testimony of a young prophetess associated with C. Peter Wagner’s self-titled New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) raises great concern. (The NAR, a blended resurrection of several modern heresies-kingom-dominionism, manifest sons of God, new breed, et al.-is spreading like wildfire through a growing number of charismatic and evangelical churches.) Here is just one example of cause for alarm:

“why do the neo-prophets and apostles of today use the eagle as a symbol of choice? Many ‘prophetic’ ministries associate eagles with tremendous natural vision and observable qualities of ‘rising above;’ but like shamans and seers-ancient and modern-they err in assigning to eagles spiritual qualities. An occult website declares the eagle’s role is that of an ‘illuminating force’ that rises on the east wind, whose gift is that of ’seeing hidden spiritual truths’ and ‘whose strength is by its connection to spirit guides.’ The website advises: ‘One who flies with the Eagle has a responsibility…to operate from Higher Intent, to develop the latent abilities of Illumination, and then freely share this Illumination with Others.’ In other words, a seer who channels the eagle is to ‘impart’ this knowledge and ‘gifting’ to others.”

“apostolic-prophetic” leaders who often teach with or promote Bob Jones also use the symbol of an eagle in their ministry logo: Paul Keith Davis, Rick Joyner, Bobby Conner, Cindy Jacobs, and others. Does this mean they also have the spirit of Swift to help them “carry out the purposes of God?” Not necessarily-but the connection between “eagle spirits,” shamans, and today’s neo-prophetic seers is unmistakable. This is the New Spirituality.”

Is anyone connecting the dots between this and my previous posts? They are all just different paths to the same end. Rick Warren’s “Peace Plan”, the Emergent Church, Willow Creek’s “Shift”, charismatic Kingdom/Now theology, Schuller’s rethinking conference, Oprah’s Secret etc.. is about dominionism and bringing pagan theology into the church in the name of unity and world peace.

The Latest “P” – Reconciliation: “Put this quotation on a global scale and apply it to tribes and warring factions, people groups and nations, and you can see how grandiose this thinking becomes. It is tantamount to a revolutionary new gospel. In fact, Brian McLaren includes a quotation in his 2006 book The Secret Message of Jesus (W Publishing Group) which seems to tie all of this together:

‘The radical revolutionary empire of God is here, advancing by reconciliation and peace, expanding by faith, hope, and love–beginning with the poorest, the weakest, the meekest, and the least. It’s time to change your thinking. Everything is about to change. It’s time for a new way of life. Believe me. Follow me. Believe this good news to you so you can learn to live by it and be part of the revolution.’ (pp. 32-33) [emphasis added]“

So now is there any doubt why Rick Warren has changed planting churches to “promote reconciliation” in the P of his PEACE plan acronym? Rick Warren obviously has bought into Dominion Theology and Brian McLaren’s heresy. Willow Creek’s seeker churches have as well. If nobody sees the setting up of the world harlot who rides the Beast of Revelation taking place here they have little understanding of Bible prophecy. Not to mention the scriptures that warn us that this end time apostasy would come from among those who call themselves “Christians”.

Mitt Romney’s Purpose-Driven Pandering – Adam Graham – Oct 17, 07: “He talked about no matter what region of the country he was in, the values were all the same across America. He began to list these American values: “We believe in hard work; we believe in education; we believe in the sanctity of life; we believe in marriage; we believe in God.” At this point, the speech took a bizarre turn. “Even those of us who don’t believe in God believe in something greater than ourselves, as Rick Warren calls it, ‘Purpose Driven Life.’” “

I can see why Mitt Romney believes what he believes about Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Life. Rick Warren seems confused on the issue himself. He says it is written to Christians to Christians and for the secular crowd he peddles it as a success book for everyone. I have read the book and it does indicate that everyone needs to find their purpose in Life, even non believers. Actually the writer of this article seems a little confused about what is in the book.

Removing the Offense of the Cross: The Ineffectualness of Candy Coated Partial Romantic Gospel Appeals – CWN: “Just tell an audience that God is crazy about you; that He doesn’t want to punish you; that the dread Sovereign of the universe is a powerless lover down on one knee begging you to be His bride and has to wait to see if you choose to accept Him; that the whole universe is proposing to you; that He wants you to fall in love with Him; that His law is designed just to make this world a better place; and as you proclaim the gospel to insure the highest success from as many nonbelievers as possible, make sure you don’t speak about repentance from sin; justification by faith; the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ; submission to the Lordship of Jesus Christ; don’t ever mention Scripture specifically, open up a Bible and actually read it, or use Bible sounding words; just carry a surfboard against the backdrop of beautiful scenery, walk along a beach and show that you’re a regular guy who can relate by talking about how fast the planet earth revolves around the sun, get all giggly that God created laugher, and make it as comfortable as possible for people to hear some things about the gospel; but don’t ever mention that you must come to the end of yourself–deny yourself; take up your cross and follow Him; don’t ever tell them that God is angry with them and His wrath abides on them; don’t mention Hell (to negative); don’t ever tell them that they have to hate their own lives, their father, mother, brother, sister, son and daughter and love Him more than all other loves or they cannot be His disciple; just reassure them that God loves them just the way they are and wants to give them a better life if they would cry out and say ‘I love You too.’”