Comments on: Dr Norman Geisler reviews Hank Hanegraff’s Apocalypse Code

By: clarence puckett

clarence puckett — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:28:08 +0000

Mike Murdock is a religious con man, braggart, he is best at fleecing the flock instead of feeding it, he was formerly with the PTL scam org., raised money for them also, Inspiration
networks owned by the Cerullas[Morris and David] Morris lives in a twelve million dollar mansion in San Diego California, David lives in a gated community and recently bought another 3 or 4 million dollar home, these guys are not just taking funds from the elderly, but many other hurting saints, seed money is for a miracle these folks hope for and Murdock has the gift of gab and knows how to control people through the media, when the Cerullas is down to their last ten million they summon Mike and his private jet, sadly these people are not grounded in scripture, no Christian has to buy a miracle from God, just an effectual
fervent prayer will do it; I know, I have been there too many times. Hank Hanegraff has gone
out into left field in the gospel[preterism] he believes Matthew 24 had to do with 70 AD events with the Romans, to alot of people he seems to know what he is talking about, but he don’t, he even takes the side of the palestinians in the middle east, or he favors their cause, I listen to what men are saying, but then judge it by scripture and a prayed up mind.

By: Frank

Frank — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:54:23 +0000

Lol I agree Peter. Mike Murdock is a charlatan. I was was watching some of the “Inspiration” channel (I think thats the name) the other night and he was on there along with some other really old guy after that that was talking about “sowing seeds” etc. LOL. These guys are fooling lots of older people into giving their life’s savings away. Truly sad. If people would study their Bibles instead of the “boob tube” they would see them coming from a mile away.

By: Peter Tracy

Peter Tracy — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:02:11 +0000

Just a couple of quick comments. I too hold Hal Lindsey in the highest regard. His book “The Late Great
Planet Earth” was a great influence on my life and helped lead me to Christ. I read it in the very early 70’s
and it stuck. I received Christ later that decade but the contents of that book remained with me and I have
loved Bible Prophecy ever since. God Bless Hal!!

As far as Hank Hanegraff, I used to listen to him and admire the way he went after not only the cults but
also the TBN “money-grubbers and their ilk. Mike Murdock in paricular makes my blood boil. Anyway not
to get sidetracked, I also remember a caller asking Hank early on in this decade (acutally around 2000)
some things on Bible prophecy and Hank answering that he was just beginning a 5 year study of Bible prophecy and was not really ready or equipped yet to give a knowledgeable response. Right around that time
I had stopped listening to his program because it was no longer available (reception-wise) in my area.
Seems ol’ Hank didn’t study hard enough.

By: Don

Don — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:41:54 +0000

I mostly agree with what you said but i might add that nobody makes people buy LaHaye and Jenkins books and there really is nothing wrong with making money on a fiction series based on one’s theology. Abraham was quite rich and used his wealth wisely. I cannot judge if they are doing that or not. There also is a difference between reformed theology and the arguments and attacks coming from the partial preterism of Hank Hanegraff. However, I do agree that Evangelicals are often more focused on raising money for “God’s work” than they are in doing real works of the Spirit.

By: jay g.

jay g. — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:02:07 +0000

“Just follow the money. Most of the support from CRI now comes from the Christian Left with their postmodern Replacement Theology and Dominion Theology. They see delusions that Christians will socialize, rule and restore the world to a paradise before Christ can even return. They have a mighty high regard for man and think Jesus will fulfill everything through the Church on earth.”

With all due respect — and I, speaking, not as an apologist for Hannegraff, either — hasn’t Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins found their ENORMOUS cash cow with the “Left Behind” Series? If you want to be fair and objective, let’s follow the money trail on all ends. To quote Mark Noll, the scandal that’s invaded the church is not just of the “Evangelical Mind” but of the “Evangelical Economy.”

Secondly, the argument here is not as tidy as Biblical fidelity vs. “Christian” left, although it’s certainly easy to pit those terms against one another to dumb down more serious analysis for a commercial audience. Why not call it dispensationalism vs. reformed view of theology? And the former, as well as the latter, has certainly a lot to answer for in terms of consisttency and logic.

By: Don

Don — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:05:00 +0000

Hi Clarence,
A more appropriate place to plug David Wilkerson would be on the post that I have about his latest predictions. It is the number one viewed post on my blog according to the count on my sidebar.
http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2009/03/08/david-wilkerson-predicts-riots-fires-and-looting-in-cities-worldwide.html

By: clarence puckett

clarence puckett — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:45:47 +0000

I just want to put a little plug in here for David Wilkinson; I believe that man is a man of God;
I read his book “The Cross and The Switchblade” almost thirty years ago, a new christian then, but it really made an impact on me, I still have that book, I am 72 now and I feel anyone any age would get a blessing out of reading it, I believe it is still available on google
or Times Square Church, I still take his newsletters and it is sermons that are preached in his hugh church and they are fervent, very biblical and spiritual, he reaches out to broken lives, prostitutes, pimps, winos, destitute and all kinds of hopeless people, they stand in line to get into his church on Sunday about four times a day, his life’s story is no where near
most TV preachers, the direction this country is going now, I would not be surprised at anything he has said will happen, I know we have to be carefull of ministers making false prophecies and putting those men on a pedestal, which I don’t believe he would want, he is an humble man, holy, Godly. When 911 happened and all the famed and alot of ministers gathered at the hugh church in NY, he was not invited, even though his church is only a block off Times Square, those people would have not liked what David would tell them, I put him on a spiritual plane as equal or more as Billy Graham, at least David never felt the call to visit the pope as Graham did, if we don’t know that church is false, there is something wrong with us[Vatican]. I cannot understand why any preacher or christian would want an audience with the pope except to tell him to repent and be born again and the billion who are following him. Sad.

By: Mark

Mark — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:34:04 +0000

Don,

For anyone that doesn’t understand Spanish, I thought I would translate Oanny’s post. Hope that helps.

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Loved Ones,

I have been preoccupied investigating the modern apostasy and have been reading the book ‘Christianity in Crisis’ and I think it is an excellent book. I decided to investigate the author and I ended up here. I’m concerned about the fact that we attempt to be zealous for the faith and we end up in error. In other words, it’s sad that we start well and end poorly. I’d like to know if Hank has retracted his book and where the donations come from. As Don says: “As they say. Just follow the money. Find out who is supporting CRI and you might understand why he takes the positions he does.” If you know, can you tell me where the donations come from? I have looked but I have not been able to find specifics (or if you can email me the information)

All this makes me think that we need to be careful examining everything….and pray and not get off course, ask the Lord for wisdom to avoid errors, to stay in sound doctrine and to not accept or tolerate erroneous doctrines come what may…and not fall into thinking those false doctrines are correct.

All-powerful God, Father of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ., You and You alone know who we are, we are so small before You….don’t let us get puffed up in ourselves or to mis-judge the righteous, do not let fear cause us to be silent before the subtle lies of Satan…help us because if we depend on ourselves and our own wisdom, we will perish, I ask You in the name of your loving Son, Jesus Christ, Amen.

PS: You can respond in English. I wrote in Spanish because I am from Venezuela and it’s faster for me to write in my language.

By: Oanny

Oanny — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:57:45 +0000

Amados,

He estado preocupada investigando acerca de la apostasia moderna, he estado leyendo el libro Cristianismo en Crisis y me parece una excelente publicación. Decidi investigar sobre el autor, y bueno, me encuentro con esto. Me preocupa el hecho de que decidamos ser celosos en la fe y caigamos en errores… es decir, es triste que empecemos bien y terminemos tan mal… Me gustaria saber si Hank se ha retractado de su libro, me gustaria saber de donde provienen las donaciones, porque Don dice: As they say. Just follow the money. Find out who is supporting CRI and you might understand why he takes the positions he does. Pues bien, si Uds lo saben, pueden decime de dónde proviene? yo he estado buscando pero quizas me falta más… o sino, me lo indican por correo.

Todo esto me lleva a pensar, que debemos ser tan temerosos, examinar todo… y orar.. no perder el rumbo, pedirle a Nuestro Señor sabiduría para no errar, para mantenernos en la sana doctrina, y no aceptar ni tolerar las doctrinas de error, vengan de quien vengan… y no caer nosotros en ellas creyendo que estamos en lo correcto!!

Señor Dios Todopoderoso, Padre de Nuestro Señor y Salvador Jesucristo, Tú y sólo Tu sabes quiénes somos.. somos tan pequeños delante de Tí… no permitas que nos envanezcamos en nosotros mismos,no permitas que juzguemos mal a los justos, no permitas que el temor nos haga callar ante las sutiles mentiras del maligno… ayúdanos porque si dependemos de nosotros mismos y de nuestra sabiduría… pereceremos… te lo pido en el Nombre de tu amando Hijo Jesucristo. Amén.

PD: Amados, pueden responder en Inglés, escribí en español porque soy de Venezueala y me resulta más rápido escribir en mi idioma.

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:21:30 +0000

Wow! I had, for years held Hank in the highest regard, but a couple of his last books have really left me scratching my head. I guess that we’ll see, because brothers and sisters, if we are not heading into the end times, I’ll eat my hat! Love God with all your heart, love your neighbor as yourself. Stay ready for whatever…………………………..
See ya in Heaven
Steve