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	<title>Comments on: We are not the prodigal nation and belief in the Rapture is not the problem</title>
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	<description>Trends in the world and the Church in these last days</description>
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		<title>By: el-Nasrani</title>
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		<dc:creator>el-Nasrani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see the same thinking among Christians in Belgium and the Netherlands. The difference is that they are even more likely to give up on straight Biblical thinking and choose to collaborate with the godless left-leaning establishment instead. Some people seem to think that participation in the government up to its highest levels will somehow lead to God blessing their country, and citizens getting more attracted to the Gospel. What a joke!

I can see just the opposite happening. In the Netherlands many Right-wingers are getting totally fed up with many of those self-proclaimed Evangelicals running the current administration. And these Right-wingers are now even more likely to defend gay marriage and sodomy than before, because now they see not only Islam but also Christianity and religion or faith in God as a general problem or even an enemy to their freedom. And despite the fact that I cannot agree with their liberal mores, I do perfectly understand their thinking. 

The more "Christians" collaborate with evil ideologies, even making make environmentalist thinking part of what they claim as Christians' biblical "responsibility", sympathizing with the idea of "tolerance" for other faiths and particularly Islam, the more they are ridiculing not only themselves and showing how hypocritical they are (especially when they talk about "tolerance" but don't include homosexuals yet don't want to admit) but also blaspheming God. Now you would think that's about the last thing they would want to do but  that really is what they are doing basically. No doubt there are good and well-meaning people among them, but their beliefs have become clouded by wordly thinking. Dominionism is just that: worldly thinking. They realize they can't lead their people to Christ so what they do next is trying to attract people and become more popular by easing up on some issues and incorporate modern thinking.

So here's a little something: 

Government, my dear brothers and sisters, is meant to GOVERN and *not* to spread the Gospel. 

Let me add this:

Government is an institution of God and has its place. The Church is another and the two do not mix. At the very heart of society is the institution of what I see as the "little church", the family. Next is the individual. Whoever in the name of tolerance, either as a Church or as a "Christian" political party, gives up on this little yet sacred compound, is compromising with the world even if the end is to "spread the Gospel". The ends do not justify the means if it leads you to disregard any part of God's Word in working to that end, even if you claim that end is to spread the Gospel. How can you testify of the Savior if you break His very Word and go with the flow? That is a question even I struggle with sometimes. What to think if you're doing so as a Christian in politics? 

Christians who want to lead their people to Christ better don't fool themselves into thinking they can do so through politics. They can't and I would even say they *shouldn't* be using government to that end. Power corrupts, they say. Well, the modern pluralistic Democratic system does exactly the same. It corrupts biblical Christian faith.

That is not to say Chrisitians should not go into politics. There's nothing wrong to go in politics and standing for Biblical values. Just don't pretend your political platform is as holy as the Bible. And don't pretend Democracy is somehow a Christian value. Man and his thinking is fallible, and perhaps government (of any type) offers the best evidence for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see the same thinking among Christians in Belgium and the Netherlands. The difference is that they are even more likely to give up on straight Biblical thinking and choose to collaborate with the godless left-leaning establishment instead. Some people seem to think that participation in the government up to its highest levels will somehow lead to God blessing their country, and citizens getting more attracted to the Gospel. What a joke!</p>
<p>I can see just the opposite happening. In the Netherlands many Right-wingers are getting totally fed up with many of those self-proclaimed Evangelicals running the current administration. And these Right-wingers are now even more likely to defend gay marriage and sodomy than before, because now they see not only Islam but also Christianity and religion or faith in God as a general problem or even an enemy to their freedom. And despite the fact that I cannot agree with their liberal mores, I do perfectly understand their thinking. </p>
<p>The more &#8220;Christians&#8221; collaborate with evil ideologies, even making make environmentalist thinking part of what they claim as Christians&#8217; biblical &#8220;responsibility&#8221;, sympathizing with the idea of &#8220;tolerance&#8221; for other faiths and particularly Islam, the more they are ridiculing not only themselves and showing how hypocritical they are (especially when they talk about &#8220;tolerance&#8221; but don&#8217;t include homosexuals yet don&#8217;t want to admit) but also blaspheming God. Now you would think that&#8217;s about the last thing they would want to do but  that really is what they are doing basically. No doubt there are good and well-meaning people among them, but their beliefs have become clouded by wordly thinking. Dominionism is just that: worldly thinking. They realize they can&#8217;t lead their people to Christ so what they do next is trying to attract people and become more popular by easing up on some issues and incorporate modern thinking.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s a little something: </p>
<p>Government, my dear brothers and sisters, is meant to GOVERN and *not* to spread the Gospel. </p>
<p>Let me add this:</p>
<p>Government is an institution of God and has its place. The Church is another and the two do not mix. At the very heart of society is the institution of what I see as the &#8220;little church&#8221;, the family. Next is the individual. Whoever in the name of tolerance, either as a Church or as a &#8220;Christian&#8221; political party, gives up on this little yet sacred compound, is compromising with the world even if the end is to &#8220;spread the Gospel&#8221;. The ends do not justify the means if it leads you to disregard any part of God&#8217;s Word in working to that end, even if you claim that end is to spread the Gospel. How can you testify of the Savior if you break His very Word and go with the flow? That is a question even I struggle with sometimes. What to think if you&#8217;re doing so as a Christian in politics? </p>
<p>Christians who want to lead their people to Christ better don&#8217;t fool themselves into thinking they can do so through politics. They can&#8217;t and I would even say they *shouldn&#8217;t* be using government to that end. Power corrupts, they say. Well, the modern pluralistic Democratic system does exactly the same. It corrupts biblical Christian faith.</p>
<p>That is not to say Chrisitians should not go into politics. There&#8217;s nothing wrong to go in politics and standing for Biblical values. Just don&#8217;t pretend your political platform is as holy as the Bible. And don&#8217;t pretend Democracy is somehow a Christian value. Man and his thinking is fallible, and perhaps government (of any type) offers the best evidence for that.</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said! I have not seen anyone else address this so well! There will be no true healing of the nations and the world until the Prince of Peace returns! It seems that what Dave desires is a "christianized" nation. Don't we already have that in the "emergant" and dominionist churches. Such stupid dominionist thinking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said! I have not seen anyone else address this so well! There will be no true healing of the nations and the world until the Prince of Peace returns! It seems that what Dave desires is a &#8220;christianized&#8221; nation. Don&#8217;t we already have that in the &#8220;emergant&#8221; and dominionist churches. Such stupid dominionist thinking!</p>
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