Newswithview.com and their conspiracy loons.
One of the reasons why I no longer link to Newswithviews.com is the many hateful conspiracy people who write articles on this forum. There are some good posts on that website so I check it but I wish writers with Christian discernment would post elsewhere.
I cannot believe that intelligent people would actually believe that our own government was behind 9/11. These people see all government linking to a great unprovable international conspiracy to bring in some imaginary new world order that is already set in stone in back rooms of think tanks. They have been on this nonsense for many decades but they continually find a new audience. I guess the leaders make a living off of it or they like to develop a following. However the truth of the matter is that nothing like this can happen until God allows it and when He allows it their will not be one thing they can do to stop it.
If things in the world really were as sinister as these people like to claim why are they allowed to live to spout their secret inside knowledge? These people even go beyond the fringe Left that likes to see fascism behind every bush and thus see 9/11 as a fascist power grab by the Right but if the Far Left actually wanted to see fascism all they would really have to do is look in a mirror and project their own thoughts out a few years.
But no, these don’t claim to be on the Left, They claim to be civil Libertarians who want to go back to what they think is the real intent of the founding fathers and the American Constitution. As if they could really know how our founding fathers would interpret their own words when addressing unique 21st century problems. I think our founding fathers would even be more pro active and more military minded than anyone like George Bush. Our founding fathers launched what they though were just wars for reasons that pale compared to the post 9/11 nuclear threat.
These people are always against government they are really anarchists. They live in some backwoods fantasy world. They do not have a clue that if we or the world went to the form of government that they suggest that it would cause Anarchy everywhere. It would bankrupt the nation, and put us in a great depression for fifty years. Sure maybe we should have never gone down this road but get in reality we did! Now we need to complete the journey because there is no going back. Those bridges have long been cut. Going back would mean many different things to many different people and everyone would be running amok doing what they think is right in their own eyes while the nation burns.
Some of these Libertarians are very legalistic in their biblical interpretations. They have no understanding of the Spirit of passages. they want the whole world to live under their own narrow interpretation of Old Testament Biblical laws that never could be even marginally followed except through Christian conversion.
They rail against all popular elected government and the will of the people but what they propose is a very limited government that would be narrowly defined by themselves. They think they can start over without paying our debts and honoring our treaties. Who would trust that America? They will say they do not advocate that but they certainly do. There limited government and very limited taxation could never pay what we owe to our own people or what we owe to other nations. I guess they would just tell everyone on Social Security and Medicare to get back to work because they can’t pay the entitlements you worked for all your life. Get a grip!
Last I read the Bill of rights gives us freedom of speech in this nation. Yet Devvy Kidd wants Michael Reagan to do jail time for his expression of outrage against people like her who make hate speech statements against government. Move to Burma if you want that!
She would be the first one to condemn hate speech legislation if it were passed but she herself says that Michael Reagan should be arrested for his rail against the hate speech she spouts.
I guess she thinks the American constitution only applies to the great enlightened conspiracy elite like herself.
Devvy Kidd — Indict Michael Reagan, Applaud Senator Karen Johnson
INDICT MICHAEL REAGAN, APPLAUD SENATOR KAREN JOHNSON
By: Devvy
June 16, 2008© 2008 - NewsWithViews.com
“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.” Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s Minister of Propaganda
It takes a lot to shock me anymore, but indeed, shock is what registered when I listened to talk show host, Michael Reagan, blast these words during the second hour of his show, June 10, 2008:
Partial transcript of Reagan’s statements which can be heard here (3:12 minutes):
“Excuse me folks, I’m going to say this. We ought to find the people who are doing this, take them out and shoot them. Really. You take them out, they are traitors to this country, and shoot them. You have a problem with that? Deal with it. You shoot them. You call them traitors, that’s what they are, and you shoot them dead. I’ll pay for the bullets. ”Reagan adds, “How about you take Mark Dice out and put him in the middle of a firing range. Tie him to a post, don’t blindfold him, let it rip and have some fun with Mark Dice.”
At the end when Reagan says “…these people are just outrageous,” I assume it’s Reagan’s engineer says, “Now you know where the Ron Paul supporters went.”
Who is Mark Dice? I had never heard of him until this happened. It appears he’s a 911 activist who has joined with others in a project to present information about 911 to the troops in Iraq. These packages going to active duty soldiers in a war zone was covered on FOX in a 5:12 minute interview with Dice and Megyn Kelly. You can watch this short video here. This is very reminiscent of what happened a long time ago which resulted in what became known as the ‘Great Sedition Trial of 1944,’ where the defendants were charged with trying to incite mutiny within the troops during WWII; they were not convicted. Dice has filed a report with the FBI.
If questioning our government, even during a war based on nothing but lies, is considered an act of treason and we should all be hunted down and shot, then millions of Americans, me included, are guilty. We demand the truth and we will continue to fight for the truth. Senator Karen Johnson deserves our thanks and respect. Michael Reagan deserves our contempt and jail time.
Date posted: Monday, June 16th, 2008 2:49 pm | Under category: discernment
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Don,
While I’m not advocating anything these people are saying, you have to admit that we are not far from collapse as a nation. THEN who will pay for all the unfunded mandates such as Social Security? If any semblance of our government survives, you can bet that it will force is citizens to retire the foreign debt rather than repudiate it; the payment will have to be in real assets as our currency will be worthless. Even now, I know I’ll never see a cent of my SS contribution, and I’d resent it deeply if I didn’t rest on my true citizenship in Heaven.
No, there is no turning back. I agree that we are too far along the path to turn back now, but I seriously don’t think this nation (or the world) has enough time remaining to start a new cycle before the Tribulation begins.
Rather, the renewal we seek is past the storm, just as the praying for the true “Peace of Jerusalem” means praying past “Jacob’s Trouble.”
I have to say that glad (in a serious way) that it’s finally coming to a climax. I am sin-sick of this world (including my sinful contribution), and while I want people to come to Jesus, I also want Jesus to come soon.
Sorry if this sounds like a rant.
Hi Brett,
What you said is not a rant, you are correct. I think we have only one way to go and that is down. I have said on these blogs that within ten years people will have about half the standard of living that they have today.
I do not think it will go down much more than that unless we enter the tribulation because all the world will get together and come up with something even if it means a one world currency. Everyone has too much to lose. I see hyper inflation solving part of our entitlement debt. They will have to have some kind of social security and medical care to appease the people but Its going to get real tough for the common working man. I think for most people retirement will be more in the order of socialized subsistence living than good living.
I think we have about 20 years to the tribulation so no I don’t see a new cycle restoring America. If you and other true Christians are tired of this sick sinfully world imagine how God feels. Time is short.
>>>Imaging how God feels.
Indeed, that’s a good part of where my groaning comes from.
Conspiracy Loons?
Boy, is your mind closed! I am an ex-Persian Gulf veteran and when this honorable gobernment was lying out its rear end telling the Iraqis were mobilizing on the Kuwait/Saudi border ready to invade Saudi Arabia, we knew better as our recon pilots were telling us the Iraqis were way back near the Iraq/Kuwait border digging ditches and waiting for the American onslaught.
We were lied about Pearl harbour and Roosevelt’s prior knowledge so why not 911. How did building 7 go down? It was not hit buy a plane. Alos, many eye witeness heard explosiong balsting all over the towers. Moreover, the tower were demolished and fell like demolition buildings.
Several Israelis (children’s gods and false idols) Mossad agents were detained after being apprehended by FBI officials having explosives, false Arab passports and 4700 dollars worth of US dollars. They were doing “High Fives” (seen by witness) while the towers were on fire and collapsing. Israeli lobby and government is a rogue government and the Jewish lobby runs this country and stupid Christians who pervserly believe they are still God’s chosen people by having false bible interpretations. Several Isralei’s were apprehended having bombs and surveilling nuclear sub bases in georgia and Washington. I have amassed alot of evidence.
Too many stupid Americans out there and may I add majority of Chrsitians. You guys have a false view of how the US Government works (read Economic Hit mean) and the real agenda. I believe the CIA was involved with the Mossad.
All governments lie on occasion for their own reasons as do most people.
You want to believe that everyone in government is just going to go along with some conspiracy contrary to our Constitution and not expose it. That is ridiculous. You dishonor all in government who took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States. I am one of those and I held Top Secret SCI and Crypto clearances for many years and I do not recall any conspiracies. No conspiracies of the extent that you suggest could ever be covered up.
Some people will believe anything they read on the internet and just blame the Jews!
With today’s wide dissemination of knowledge, I’d give a 9/11 conspiracy about a month before someone spilled-the-beans, perhaps quicker if a book-deal could be closed sooner.
Perhaps we are see some projection from Peter? Certainly the liberals think conservatives will choose to lie in any given situation, but real observations show that its the liberals who have little scruples about lying. Likewise, there have been a number of cases where communist countries have killed their own people in order to score propaganda points (this is SOP for terrorists).
However Peter, not everyone operates on the basis of the “ends justifying the means.” I certainly don’t.
You got that right.
It is funny but I never get any real proof from the conspiracy people on the conspiracies they have been talking about for many years. All they give is third hand information from people who make a living selling conspiracies to gullible people.