Comments on: The hippie counterculture movement and their offspring all hail the Obamanation http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html Don Koenig gives his wordviews on world and Church issues that often relate to Bible prophecy Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:49:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Justin http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4318 Justin Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:07:03 +0000 http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4318 A good study of the old testament will show what God thinks of interpreting what God says with what/who we see around us and blending them in with the commandments of God. Israel was warned many times about these practices and also judged many times for them. Therefore God is against as quoted above: "Liberal Christians therefore welcome a variety of approaches to understanding God, and are open to new ways of talking about the divine. Religious questions are seen as complex, and answers only tentative. Certain that “now we see through a glass, darkly” (1 Cor. 13:12), liberals are cautious about making dogmatic statements or claiming to have a monopoly on the truth. They see the search for truth as an ongoing task, rather than one that has already been completed." 2 cor. 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you, A good study of the old testament will show what God thinks of interpreting what God says with what/who we see around us and blending them in with the commandments of God. Israel was warned many times about these practices and also judged many times for them.

Therefore God is against as quoted above:
“Liberal Christians therefore welcome a variety of approaches to understanding God, and are open to new ways of talking about the divine. Religious questions are seen as complex, and answers only tentative. Certain that “now we see through a glass, darkly” (1 Cor. 13:12), liberals are cautious about making dogmatic statements or claiming to have a monopoly on the truth. They see the search for truth as an ongoing task, rather than one that has already been completed.”

2 cor. 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you,

]]> By: Don http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4317 Don Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:11:48 +0000 http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4317 Actually what you said in these last two comments says it all about liberals. But you really should give credits when you copy articles as if they are your own. As your comments indicate liberals do not really believe the Bible is the word of God. That is why their worldview is not Christian and they look for new truth in all the wrong places. What you described as a liberal Christians would hardly be described as a true Christian by a Bible believing Christian. Hopefully over the years you will learn that the Word of God is infallible because Jesus Himself and His apostles confirmed that all scripture is from God. The many proofs of scriptures are irrefutable by any honest person. I suggest you get a good book on Christian apologetics so you can defend the truths of your faith and also become fully convinced of scripture reliability. I also hope you will realize that man is saved by grace through faith alone. I do not know how one can have real faith in Jesus when they have doubts about the scriptures that He personally inspired. I do not regard the color of the skin of any person. Obama's skin color has nothing to do with my views of Him. There are some blacks blacker than coal that I highly admire. Your correct to say that I take the Bible literally and you do not and that is our big differences. All apologies are accepted about your rash judgment of me but I do stand by what I said on this article. I give a literal Bible believing viewpoint and frankly there is no other infallible source for a Christians to base their faith on. At 17 you do not have to have it all figured out but if you really do need to protect yourself from worldly deceptions by finding out why the word of God is totally trustworthy. If you do not you will be unduly influenced by worldly philosophies that oppose Christian truths. Actually what you said in these last two comments says it all about liberals. But you really should give credits when you copy articles as if they are your own. As your comments indicate liberals do not really believe the Bible is the word of God. That is why their worldview is not Christian and they look for new truth in all the wrong places. What you described as a liberal Christians would hardly be described as a true Christian by a Bible believing Christian.

Hopefully over the years you will learn that the Word of God is infallible because Jesus Himself and His apostles confirmed that all scripture is from God. The many proofs of scriptures are irrefutable by any honest person. I suggest you get a good book on Christian apologetics so you can defend the truths of your faith and also become fully convinced of scripture reliability.

I also hope you will realize that man is saved by grace through faith alone. I do not know how one can have real faith in Jesus when they have doubts about the scriptures that He personally inspired.

I do not regard the color of the skin of any person. Obama’s skin color has nothing to do with my views of Him. There are some blacks blacker than coal that I highly admire.

Your correct to say that I take the Bible literally and you do not and that is our big differences. All apologies are accepted about your rash judgment of me but I do stand by what I said on this article.

I give a literal Bible believing viewpoint and frankly there is no other infallible source for a Christians to base their faith on. At 17 you do not have to have it all figured out but if you really do need to protect yourself from worldly deceptions by finding out why the word of God is totally trustworthy. If you do not you will be unduly influenced by worldly philosophies that oppose Christian truths.

]]> By: Megan http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4313 Megan Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:46:23 +0000 http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4313 Sorry to post another comment, but I ran out of characters. That article, I feel, sums up my beliefs. As a child of 17, I may be liberal at the moment, I still have much more maturing to do before I make up my mind. But yes, my family is liberal. My great uncle(Bob Crawford) was a senator in Florida 1982 to 1990, then went on to become Florida senate president, then Florida Department of Agriculture, State Commissioner. Growing up in the south myself, I have been around much racism and many people in my home state hate Obama only because he is a black man but they blame it on other things, like Socialism. My heart hurts for people who think like that and I think maybe that's why I was so appalled by this article, but if Obama being black has nothing to do with your veiws, then I respect what you believe and I am sorry for what I might have said that offended you. But, my beliefs are still the same. I believe that our one of main differences, with no disrespect, is that I believe the Bible is up to my interpretation while you take the scripture literally. Reading through your other articles, it's hard for me to sometimes understand where you are coming from when we obviously have 2 different ideas of what a liberal Christian is, making some things offensive. But like I said, I'm sorry if I have offended you but I think you should realize that us liberal Christians have a very different view of what a liberal Christian is than you do. Sorry to post another comment, but I ran out of characters.
That article, I feel, sums up my beliefs.
As a child of 17, I may be liberal at the moment, I still have much more maturing to do before I make up my mind. But yes, my family is liberal. My great uncle(Bob Crawford) was a senator in Florida 1982 to 1990, then went on to become Florida senate president, then Florida Department of Agriculture, State Commissioner.
Growing up in the south myself, I have been around much racism and many people in my home state hate Obama only because he is a black man but they blame it on other things, like Socialism. My heart hurts for people who think like that and I think maybe that’s why I was so appalled by this article, but if Obama being black has nothing to do with your veiws, then I respect what you believe and I am sorry for what I might have said that offended you. But, my beliefs are still the same.
I believe that our one of main differences, with no disrespect, is that I believe the Bible is up to my interpretation while you take the scripture literally.
Reading through your other articles, it’s hard for me to sometimes understand where you are coming from when we obviously have 2 different ideas of what a liberal Christian is, making some things offensive. But like I said, I’m sorry if I have offended you but I think you should realize that us liberal Christians have a very different view of what a liberal Christian is than you do.

]]> By: Megan http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4312 Megan Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:22:03 +0000 http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4312 What is a Liberal Christian? Sometimes liberals are thought to be Christians who have backslidden; people who don't have enough faith, or are too "in the world." Actually, nothing could be farther from the truth. Liberal Christians are committed believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, who have thoroughly studied the scriptures and traditions of the Church, and have examined their faith in the light of reason and experience. Perhaps the defining characteristic of liberal Christians is that they are comfortable with ambiguity and diversity. They realize that life is a complex spiritual journey, and that each person on that journey is confronted with unexpected revelations and unique experiences. Liberal Christians therefore welcome a variety of approaches to understanding God, and are open to new ways of talking about the divine. Religious questions are seen as complex, and answers only tentative. Certain that "now we see through a glass, darkly" (1 Cor. 13:12), liberals are cautious about making dogmatic statements or claiming to have a monopoly on the truth. They see the search for truth as an ongoing task, rather than one that has already been completed. Conservative Christians are often content to answer religious questions by appealing to the absolute authority of Scripture. Liberal Christians, on the other hand, find such an approach to be flawed. Many see the Bible as a witness to revelation, or generally inspired, rather than completely inspired in all its parts. Just as Jesus was fully human and wholey divine, so one must also see the Bible as a product of both human and divine influences. Indeed, liberal Christians are quick to point out that the falleness and imperfection of its human authors gives the Bible an imperfect quality and authority. Liberals view Scripture through a critical lens, and are not afraid to challenge traditional assumptions and interpretations. They rely heavily on higher criticism of the Bible, which looks into the origin and composition of the biblical texts, revealing a great deal about the human aspect of Scripture. Modern philosophical, biological, and cosmological theories that are well supported by evidence, and reflect the true nature of the world around us, can also shape the way liberals interpret Scripture. Traditional Christian doctrines, such as the Virgin Birth, the Atonement, the Trinity, the deity of Christ, and the Resurrection, are sometimes given new interpretations by liberals. Perhaps more so than evangelical and Fundamentalist Christians, liberal Christians see the teachings of Jesus as having a central place. Scripture, Tradition, Reason, and Experience are each given equal footing in determining Christian faith. Imminent and personal images of God in Scripture are attractive to liberals. For some this takes on the form of a belief in panentheism (Everything-in-God-ism). Liberals also see little distinction between the natural and the supernatural, and therefore do not look for "miracles" to confirm the existence of God. Instead, they feel that faith in God allows one to see the Spirit moving in the everyday stuff of life. The concept of personal salvation is not typically stressed by liberal Christians. Accordingly, traditional images of heaven, hell, and the End Times are not given much weight in their theologies. When salvation is discussed, liberals are more apt to stress its "this worldly" aspects, and appeal to a universalist interpretation of Scripture when confronted with questions of eternal punishment and rewards. For many liberal Christians, social justice is a central concern, and the transformation of society, rather than that of the individual, is more typically stressed. Equality for racial minorities, women, homosexuals, and the economically disadvantaged is seen as an essential part of the Gospel message. A concern for the environment, and other typically liberal social issues, also find a great deal of support among liberal Christians. Liberals tend to stress the centrality of community in the Christian experience. They can be found in almost all churches (from Roman Catholic to Southern Baptist), but tend to be in greater numbers in the mainline Protestant denominations: American Baptist Churches, USA; Disciples of Christ; Episcopal Church; Evangelical Lutheran Church in America; Presbyterian Church, USA; United Church of Christ, and the United Methodist Church. I find many of the liberal Christian views on God, salvation, women, homosexuality, Scripture, and Creation to be convincing. When I was an evangelical Christian, I often felt the need to wash over historical and scientific evidence with "faith" because the world around me did not mesh with my preconceived notion about Scripture. I had questions about Evolution, the Bible, other religions, etc., but those questions were always met with criticism or simplistic answers by my fellow evangelical believers. I feel this article sums up... What is a Liberal Christian?
Sometimes liberals are thought to be Christians who have backslidden; people who don’t have enough faith, or are too “in the world.” Actually, nothing could be farther from the truth. Liberal Christians are committed believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, who have thoroughly studied the scriptures and traditions of the Church, and have examined their faith in the light of reason and experience.
Perhaps the defining characteristic of liberal Christians is that they are comfortable with ambiguity and diversity. They realize that life is a complex spiritual journey, and that each person on that journey is confronted with unexpected revelations and unique experiences. Liberal Christians therefore welcome a variety of approaches to understanding God, and are open to new ways of talking about the divine. Religious questions are seen as complex, and answers only tentative. Certain that “now we see through a glass, darkly” (1 Cor. 13:12), liberals are cautious about making dogmatic statements or claiming to have a monopoly on the truth. They see the search for truth as an ongoing task, rather than one that has already been completed.
Conservative Christians are often content to answer religious questions by appealing to the absolute authority of Scripture. Liberal Christians, on the other hand, find such an approach to be flawed. Many see the Bible as a witness to revelation, or generally inspired, rather than completely inspired in all its parts. Just as Jesus was fully human and wholey divine, so one must also see the Bible as a product of both human and divine influences. Indeed, liberal Christians are quick to point out that the falleness and imperfection of its human authors gives the Bible an imperfect quality and authority.
Liberals view Scripture through a critical lens, and are not afraid to challenge traditional assumptions and interpretations. They rely heavily on higher criticism of the Bible, which looks into the origin and composition of the biblical texts, revealing a great deal about the human aspect of Scripture. Modern philosophical, biological, and cosmological theories that are well supported by evidence, and reflect the true nature of the world around us, can also shape the way liberals interpret Scripture. Traditional Christian doctrines, such as the Virgin Birth, the Atonement, the Trinity, the deity of Christ, and the Resurrection, are sometimes given new interpretations by liberals.
Perhaps more so than evangelical and Fundamentalist Christians, liberal Christians see the teachings of Jesus as having a central place. Scripture, Tradition, Reason, and Experience are each given equal footing in determining Christian faith.
Imminent and personal images of God in Scripture are attractive to liberals. For some this takes on the form of a belief in panentheism (Everything-in-God-ism). Liberals also see little distinction between the natural and the supernatural, and therefore do not look for “miracles” to confirm the existence of God. Instead, they feel that faith in God allows one to see the Spirit moving in the everyday stuff of life.
The concept of personal salvation is not typically stressed by liberal Christians. Accordingly, traditional images of heaven, hell, and the End Times are not given much weight in their theologies. When salvation is discussed, liberals are more apt to stress its “this worldly” aspects, and appeal to a universalist interpretation of Scripture when confronted with questions of eternal punishment and rewards.
For many liberal Christians, social justice is a central concern, and the transformation of society, rather than that of the individual, is more typically stressed. Equality for racial minorities, women, homosexuals, and the economically disadvantaged is seen as an essential part of the Gospel message. A concern for the environment, and other typically liberal social issues, also find a great deal of support among liberal Christians.
Liberals tend to stress the centrality of community in the Christian experience. They can be found in almost all churches (from Roman Catholic to Southern Baptist), but tend to be in greater numbers in the mainline Protestant denominations: American Baptist Churches, USA; Disciples of Christ; Episcopal Church; Evangelical Lutheran Church in America; Presbyterian Church, USA; United Church of Christ, and the United Methodist Church.
I find many of the liberal Christian views on God, salvation, women, homosexuality, Scripture, and Creation to be convincing. When I was an evangelical Christian, I often felt the need to wash over historical and scientific evidence with “faith” because the world around me did not mesh with my preconceived notion about Scripture. I had questions about Evolution, the Bible, other religions, etc., but those questions were always met with criticism or simplistic answers by my fellow evangelical believers. I feel this article sums up…

]]> By: Don http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4305 Don Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:28:13 +0000 http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4305 What does your ability to clip scriptures have to do with the price of tea in China? Nobody is denying any of those scriptures taken in proper context. The real argument is with your claims about what I said in this post and your rash judgments about me in your comments. By the way, not registering to vote does not make you a independent. Also, you can be a independent and still have liberal political views. For example, the votes of Independents in this nation were very instrumental in just putting a socialist into the presidency. Most Catholics and mainline protestants can recite the Apostles Creed by rote but they general do not have Christian worldviews. I just wrote a article on this and the proof is in the article. http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2010/02/25/views-from-christians-that-lack-a-christian-worldview.html Secular higher education is not important for one to have a Christian worldview. It actually hinders some Christians not grounded in the faith and the word of God. What does your ability to clip scriptures have to do with the price of tea in China? Nobody is denying any of those scriptures taken in proper context. The real argument is with your claims about what I said in this post and your rash judgments about me in your comments.

By the way, not registering to vote does not make you a independent. Also, you can be a independent and still have liberal political views. For example, the votes of Independents in this nation were very instrumental in just putting a socialist into the presidency.

Most Catholics and mainline protestants can recite the Apostles Creed by rote but they general do not have Christian worldviews. I just wrote a article on this and the proof is in the article.

http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2010/02/25/views-from-christians-that-lack-a-christian-worldview.html

Secular higher education is not important for one to have a Christian worldview. It actually hinders some Christians not grounded in the faith and the word of God.

]]> By: Megan http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4304 Megan Fri, 26 Feb 2010 03:59:20 +0000 http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4304 P.s. I never said I was a liberal. I am not a registered voter therefore, I am independent. I didn't copy the Apostles Creed, I can recite it. Yes, education is important and will always be important. P.s. I never said I was a liberal. I am not a registered voter therefore, I am independent.
I didn’t copy the Apostles Creed, I can recite it.
Yes, education is important and will always be important.

]]> By: Megan http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4303 Megan Fri, 26 Feb 2010 03:55:58 +0000 http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4303 Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven--for she loved much. But he who has been forgiven little loves little."(Matt 7:47) For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.(Gal 5:6) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, and self control (Gal 22) No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.(1John 4:12) If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.(1John 4:20) Love your neighbor as yourself. (Matt 19:39) If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. (1 Co 13:1) 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing. (1Co 13 2-3) And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. (1 Co 13:13) Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. (Jam 1:15-17) Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom,because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment! (James 1:12-13) Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. (Matt 5:7) Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.(Luke 6:36) But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous (Matt 5:44-45) Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven–for she
loved much. But he who has been forgiven little loves little.”(Matt 7:47)

For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has
any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through
love.(Gal 5:6)

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness,
goodness, faithfulness, and self control (Gal 22)

No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us
and his love is made complete in us.(1John 4:12)

If anyone says, “I love God,” yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For
anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God,
whom he has not seen.(1John 4:20)

Love your neighbor as yourself. (Matt 19:39)

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not
love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. (1 Co 13:1)

2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all
knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not
love, I am nothing.
3 If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,
but have not love, I gain nothing. (1Co 13 2-3)

And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of
these is love. (1 Co 13:13)

Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food.
If one of you says to him, “Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well
fed,” but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it?
In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action,
is dead. (Jam 1:15-17)

Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives
freedom,because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been
merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment! (James 1:12-13)

Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. (Matt 5:7)

Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.(Luke 6:36)

But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to
rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the
unrighteous (Matt 5:44-45)

]]> By: Don http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4301 Don Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:41:30 +0000 http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4301 So you know how to copy the Apostles Creed verbatim? Wow I am impressed. You say that is all you believe? Well if that is all you believe about God's word maybe you should study more than just a rote creed and show yourself approved. In other words study the whole Bible. My links posted for you mainly come from the right because the right is usually right. I guess in your mind that would include the link to the way of salvation I posted as well? Funny with all your high minded talk I have yet to hear any Christian plan of salvation for the lost coming from you? Many people in this nation are now realizing that big government social programs (socialism) have bankrupted this nation and socialists and humanist social engineering in our educational systems and media are thoroughly corrupting America. You will find out soon enough what the communists hippies you love so much have done to America. For example, we are not getting out of this depression. You do not create jobs by robbing the productive and giving the money to a new class of slaves called government dependents. The greatest depression has just started. You think you can judge me by a few paragraphs I wrote on on one post? I have written thousands of articles on hundreds of topics that document what I teach and the articles themselves prove that your judgment is rash and flaky. I love it when liberals come here and lecture me about not judging those that are destroying America through immorality yet they think they can judge me on the bases of one article. I certainly am not a Neo-Nazi. I have written many articles against Fascism and its close cousins called Socialism, Communism and Obamaism. I am not trying to suppress races and sexes that is just part of your faulty rash judgment. At least read what I write on issues before you make such rash racist and sexist remarks You probably gave us your own problem yourself when you said you have a religion. Christianity is not a religion it is being born into the family of God. Religion never saved anyone. You might read this. http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2010/02/19/salvation-comes-by-keeping-a-religion.html I am not saying that you are not a Christian. I can't judge that but what I can judge is that you do not have a Christian worldview. If your wordview is that of the world and you claim to be a Christian I have to wonder why that is? Which brings this whole conversation full circle. Perhaps you just have not studied the instructions given to the Church - read the Bible. You also might read.my website and Blog it should help you gain understanding from a Christian worldview. Did I finish high school? Should that really matter to a true Christian? The world educational system has nothing to offer Christians so why toot the horn of the government socialist indoctrinators and brain washers as if their credentials are something for us to behold? Jesus never graduated from high school or any of the apostles either as far as I know. They heard from the Holy Spirit. He does not need diplomas. Just for the record I have a college degree and got it while there was still a bit of sanity in the educational system. You have yet to come up with any biblical arguments for supporting your positions against what I said here but that is typical of liberals. Forget honest debate on Christian issues just start throwing mud at people that you disagree with and call them Nazi's and racists. You obviously have been thoroughly indoctrinated by your liberal mentors. So you know how to copy the Apostles Creed verbatim? Wow I am impressed. You say that is all you believe? Well if that is all you believe about God’s word maybe you should study more than just a rote creed and show yourself approved. In other words study the whole Bible.

My links posted for you mainly come from the right because the right is usually right. I guess in your mind that would include the link to the way of salvation I posted as well? Funny with all your high minded talk I have yet to hear any Christian plan of salvation for the lost coming from you?

Many people in this nation are now realizing that big government social programs (socialism) have bankrupted this nation and socialists and humanist social engineering in our educational systems and media are thoroughly corrupting America. You will find out soon enough what the communists hippies you love so much have done to America. For example, we are not getting out of this depression. You do not create jobs by robbing the productive and giving the money to a new class of slaves called government dependents. The greatest depression has just started.

You think you can judge me by a few paragraphs I wrote on on one post? I have written thousands of articles on hundreds of topics that document what I teach and the articles themselves prove that your judgment is rash and flaky. I love it when liberals come here and lecture me about not judging those that are destroying America through immorality yet they think they can judge me on the bases of one article.

I certainly am not a Neo-Nazi. I have written many articles against Fascism and its close cousins called Socialism, Communism and Obamaism. I am not trying to suppress races and sexes that is just part of your faulty rash judgment. At least read what I write on issues before you make such rash racist and sexist remarks

You probably gave us your own problem yourself when you said you have a religion. Christianity is not a religion it is being born into the family of God. Religion never saved anyone. You might read this.
http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2010/02/19/salvation-comes-by-keeping-a-religion.html

I am not saying that you are not a Christian. I can’t judge that but what I can judge is that you do not have a Christian worldview. If your wordview is that of the world and you claim to be a Christian I have to wonder why that is? Which brings this whole conversation full circle. Perhaps you just have not studied the instructions given to the Church – read the Bible. You also might read.my website and Blog it should help you gain understanding from a Christian worldview.

Did I finish high school? Should that really matter to a true Christian? The world educational system has nothing to offer Christians so why toot the horn of the government socialist indoctrinators and brain washers as if their credentials are something for us to behold? Jesus never graduated from high school or any of the apostles either as far as I know. They heard from the Holy Spirit. He does not need diplomas. Just for the record I have a college degree and got it while there was still a bit of sanity in the educational system.

You have yet to come up with any biblical arguments for supporting your positions against what I said here but that is typical of liberals. Forget honest debate on Christian issues just start throwing mud at people that you disagree with and call them Nazi’s and racists. You obviously have been thoroughly indoctrinated by your liberal mentors.

]]> By: Megan http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4300 Megan Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:52:46 +0000 http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4300 I never admitted to being liberal, for all you know, I could be neutral. I got my definition from a neutral source, the dictionary(image that), your links are completely right winged. I do believe that Jesus died for my sins in fact this is all I believe; I believe in God, the Father Almighty, the Maker of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord: Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried; He descended into hell. The third day He arose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. I believe in the Holy Ghost; the holy catholic church; the communion of saints; the forgiveness of sins; the resurrection of the body; and the life everlasting. Now as a Christian I will judge you, in love and tell you all your sins; You are a Christian Neo-Nazi. You are trying to suppress races, sexes and other religions to fit in a nice little box you've constructed. But I can't understand why you care what anyone else does?Chill out! Humanism is A system of thought that rejects religious beliefs and centers on humans and their values, capacities, and worth. Obviously, I have a religion. Did you even finish high school? You have NO idea what you are talking about!!! People like you are the problem in this world! All you do is HATE because you are so insecure about yourself. Honestly, the first time I read your propaganda filled garbage I felt sick to my stomach, people like you are SICK. I am so glad "Hippies" run this world because they are more intelligent then your capable of. You are stuck in the pig pen filth of your own sin. Sorry someone came into your world and disagreed. I never admitted to being liberal, for all you know, I could be neutral. I got my definition from a neutral source, the dictionary(image that), your links are completely right winged. I do believe that Jesus died for my sins in fact this is all I believe;
I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Maker of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:

Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost,
born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, dead, and buried;

He descended into hell.

The third day He arose again from the dead;

He ascended into heaven,
and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Ghost;
the holy catholic church;
the communion of saints;
the forgiveness of sins;
the resurrection of the body;
and the life everlasting.

Now as a Christian I will judge you, in love and tell you all your sins;
You are a Christian Neo-Nazi. You are trying to suppress races, sexes and other religions to fit in a nice little box you’ve constructed. But I can’t understand why you care what anyone else does?Chill out!

Humanism is A system of thought that rejects religious beliefs and centers on humans and their values, capacities, and worth. Obviously, I have a religion.

Did you even finish high school? You have NO idea what you are talking about!!! People like you are the problem in this world! All you do is HATE because you are so insecure about yourself. Honestly, the first time I read your propaganda filled garbage I felt sick to my stomach, people like you are SICK. I am so glad “Hippies” run this world because they are more intelligent then your capable of. You are stuck in the pig pen filth of your own sin. Sorry someone came into your world and disagreed.

]]> By: Don http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4299 Don Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:33:24 +0000 http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/08/27/the-hippie-counterculture-movement-and-their-offspring-all-hail-their-obamanation.html#comment-4299 It might be your own opinion that life begins at five weeks but obviously everyone does not agree and they should not be forced by government to pay for other peoples opinions and abortions. Also how can you support abortion for those who choose it after five weeks if even you think it is murder? By the way Obama still supports late term abortion and is using American tax funds to pay for it all over the world. You have a strange definition of Fascism you must be getting your definitions out of some far left revision of the word. Try this one http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html Your definition of a liberal is also from the point of view of a liberal. This link more accurately defines the political liberals of today. http://www.conservapedia.com/Liberal All sins are not equal in the sight of God some like homosexuality are even called abominations. The reason you cannot find any Jewish ceremonial laws in the New Testament is because they were only for the Jews to keep. However, you can find teaching against Homosexuality in the New Testament. But even you admit it is a sin and obviously sin is not something that Christians should support and embrace in a decent society.. Mission trips, service, preaching, singing in choir etc does not make anyone a Christian. You must believe that Jesus died for your sins and be born of the Spirit to be a true Christian. Living "by First taking the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”(Matthew 7:5)." does not apply to those who were never saved and are not brethren in Christ. People dead in there sins do not have specks in their eyes they are totally blind. Peter Paul and John told Christians how to live in their letters. So why suggest that Christians are not supposed to tell others what we know? We are to judge what is right from the scriptures otherwise we would know nothing. do you not even know that Christians will judge the world.? 1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Christians do not judge other sinners because sinners are already judged and separated from God. They are dead in their sins. They must be saved. That is why Christians were told to give the gospel of good news to those with ears to hear. The Good news is that Jesus died for the sins of the world so that all that believe in Him will not perish but have everlasting life. If you are not teaching that man must be saved from their sins you are offering no one anything of eternal consequence. Love is telling the world the truth about Jesus so they can be saved. Hating people is to be able to give them the words of eternal life but instead offer them a temporal cheap humanistic substitute. The problem is that like most political liberals the Christian love that you claim to offer really appears to be humanism. Humanism is not Christianity. Mankind must be saved from their sins. Loving people in their sins means you tell sinners how they can be saved. http://www.thepropheticyears.com/comments/What%20is%20required%20of%20you%20for%20God%20to%20save%20your%20soul%20for%20eternity.htm It might be your own opinion that life begins at five weeks but obviously everyone does not agree and they should not be forced by government to pay for other peoples opinions and abortions. Also how can you support abortion for those who choose it after five weeks if even you think it is murder? By the way Obama still supports late term abortion and is using American tax funds to pay for it all over the world.

You have a strange definition of Fascism you must be getting your definitions out of some far left revision of the word.

Try this one
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html

Your definition of a liberal is also from the point of view of a liberal.

This link more accurately defines the political liberals of today.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Liberal

All sins are not equal in the sight of God some like homosexuality are even called abominations. The reason you cannot find any Jewish ceremonial laws in the New Testament is because they were only for the Jews to keep. However, you can find teaching against Homosexuality in the New Testament. But even you admit it is a sin and obviously sin is not something that Christians should support and embrace in a decent society..

Mission trips, service, preaching, singing in choir etc does not make anyone a Christian. You must believe that Jesus died for your sins and be born of the Spirit to be a true Christian.

Living “by First taking the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”(Matthew 7:5).” does not apply to those who were never saved and are not brethren in Christ. People dead in there sins do not have specks in their eyes they are totally blind.

Peter Paul and John told Christians how to live in their letters. So why suggest that Christians are not supposed to tell others what we know? We are to judge what is right from the scriptures otherwise we would know nothing. do you not even know that Christians will judge the world.?

1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

Christians do not judge other sinners because sinners are already judged and separated from God. They are dead in their sins. They must be saved. That is why Christians were told to give the gospel of good news to those with ears to hear. The Good news is that Jesus died for the sins of the world so that all that believe in Him will not perish but have everlasting life. If you are not teaching that man must be saved from their sins you are offering no one anything of eternal consequence.

Love is telling the world the truth about Jesus so they can be saved. Hating people is to be able to give them the words of eternal life but instead offer them a temporal cheap humanistic substitute.

The problem is that like most political liberals the Christian love that you claim to offer really appears to be humanism. Humanism is not Christianity. Mankind must be saved from their sins. Loving people in their sins means you tell sinners how they can be saved.

http://www.thepropheticyears.com/comments/What%20is%20required%20of%20you%20for%20God%20to%20save%20your%20soul%20for%20eternity.htm

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