Comments on: Bam Bam how Todd Bentley brought down the latter reign Apostolic Reformation leaders http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/09/01/bam-bam-how-todd-bentley-brought-down-the-latter-reign-apostolic-reformation-leaders.html Don Koenig gives his wordviews on world and Church issues that often relate to Bible prophecy Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:55:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Don http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/09/01/bam-bam-how-todd-bentley-brought-down-the-latter-reign-apostolic-reformation-leaders.html#comment-2740 Don Mon, 18 May 2009 21:47:42 +0000 http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/09/01/bam-bam-how-todd-bentley-brought-down-the-latter-reign-apostolic-reformation-leaders.html#comment-2740 Thanks for that report. It does not sound like workings that you could possibly find in any movement of God to me. Those that want to believe in heretical Latter Rain Theology will continue and I do not doubt that their third wave anointed Todd Bentley will be back in the limelight soon. I am waiting for them to blame it all on a Satanic attack and then we will see the same hucksters embarrassing Christianity once again and his gullible followers just going back for more vomit like a dog. Thanks for that report. It does not sound like workings that you could possibly find in any movement of God to me. Those that want to believe in heretical Latter Rain Theology will continue and I do not doubt that their third wave anointed Todd Bentley will be back in the limelight soon. I am waiting for them to blame it all on a Satanic attack and then we will see the same hucksters embarrassing Christianity once again and his gullible followers just going back for more vomit like a dog.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/09/01/bam-bam-how-todd-bentley-brought-down-the-latter-reign-apostolic-reformation-leaders.html#comment-2738 Daniel Mon, 18 May 2009 21:07:40 +0000 http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/09/01/bam-bam-how-todd-bentley-brought-down-the-latter-reign-apostolic-reformation-leaders.html#comment-2738 here’s some truth from behind the scenes in Abbotsford. Jessa first of all was an intern in the fall 08 cycle. She never applied for it Todd invited her into the internship. Even after a board member severly opposed it. Later Todd invited her and another intern to live in his house during the internship, and after the internship as a live in nanny. At the same time the Bellingham, Washington church was being established so fresh fire could get a legal foot hold in America. This is evident by the lack and the sheer refusal to work with the local churches. It was just for the papers not the church. In January 2009 2 members of the board confronted Todd about Jessa, and that it was wrong and they couldn’t stand by him about it. They where “relieved” of their position for doing so. This shouldn’t be surprising as another member of FFM was faceed with the same threat, after he caught Todd with another woman in England (this is what the dark night of the soul was actually about), the FFM member was forced to either work for FFM outside of North America or be fired. Jessa is woman number 4 that Todd has cheated on Shonnah with. Todd isn’t 100% to blame just 80% the rest of the blame falls on those board members and pastors that refused to confront Todd on his infidelities. One in particular had the mind set that if Todd does it, it’s okay even if it isn’t for others. Others refused to confront because they didn’t want to loose their jobs (like many have over the years) Even in Lakeland which I personally think was a two edged work of God, it was a blessing to the locals who have prayed for God to move. And the other edge was a judgement on Todd, in total over the top Todd style. During the highet of revival there was excessive drinking, slasher flicks, and other things I wont get into now with Todd and his inner circle (yes men). There was infighting with the leaders on stage, and the interns where just slaves with ministry badges. Or the fact that all the money collected for the orphans and for sudan never made it to them, it was instead used to pay for the buildings/land for the revival. Even after Lakeland fell apart, and the news finally became public, Todd never returned home to Abbotsford. He remained in America (illegally) in California, then a breif stop in Reno for their quickey divorce rules. Then it was off to Rick Joyner and his marriage with Jessa These words are not made up, this is a summary of many conversations I have had with former FFM employees, board members and former interns. I just can’t stand by and see Todd get away with this for a fourth time. A man who has turned his back on his wife and children once again. yet will be received by the masses as THE man of God. here’s some truth from behind the scenes in Abbotsford. Jessa first of all was an intern in the fall 08 cycle. She never applied for it Todd invited her into the internship. Even after a board member severly opposed it. Later Todd invited her and another intern to live in his house during the internship, and after the internship as a live in nanny.

At the same time the Bellingham, Washington church was being established so fresh fire could get a legal foot hold in America. This is evident by the lack and the sheer refusal to work with the local churches. It was just for the papers not the church.

In January 2009 2 members of the board confronted Todd about Jessa, and that it was wrong and they couldn’t stand by him about it. They where “relieved” of their position for doing so. This shouldn’t be surprising as another member of FFM was faceed with the same threat, after he caught Todd with another woman in England (this is what the dark night of the soul was actually about), the FFM member was forced to either work for FFM outside of North America or be fired. Jessa is woman number 4 that Todd has cheated on Shonnah with.

Todd isn’t 100% to blame just 80% the rest of the blame falls on those board members and pastors that refused to confront Todd on his infidelities. One in particular had the mind set that if Todd does it, it’s okay even if it isn’t for others. Others refused to confront because they didn’t want to loose their jobs (like many have over the years)

Even in Lakeland which I personally think was a two edged work of God, it was a blessing to the locals who have prayed for God to move. And the other edge was a judgement on Todd, in total over the top Todd style. During the highet of revival there was excessive drinking, slasher flicks, and other things I wont get into now with Todd and his inner circle (yes men). There was infighting with the leaders on stage, and the interns where just slaves with ministry badges. Or the fact that all the money collected for the orphans and for sudan never made it to them, it was instead used to pay for the buildings/land for the revival.

Even after Lakeland fell apart, and the news finally became public, Todd never returned home to Abbotsford. He remained in America (illegally) in California, then a breif stop in Reno for their quickey divorce rules. Then it was off to Rick Joyner and his marriage with Jessa

These words are not made up, this is a summary of many conversations I have had with former FFM employees, board members and former interns. I just can’t stand by and see Todd get away with this for a fourth time. A man who has turned his back on his wife and children once again. yet will be received by the masses as THE man of God.

]]> By: edmond kwan http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/09/01/bam-bam-how-todd-bentley-brought-down-the-latter-reign-apostolic-reformation-leaders.html#comment-1131 edmond kwan Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:40:51 +0000 http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/09/01/bam-bam-how-todd-bentley-brought-down-the-latter-reign-apostolic-reformation-leaders.html#comment-1131 yes,praise God for the 'revival',and the exposure..it is always good to test your weapons and soldiers before the real fight begins..all that has been exposed is the consequence of each individual disciple of Jesus ignorance,even disobedience of the command by the father to listen to Him(Math17:5),and the absence of churches that obey the command to hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches(rev).All that has happened is to confirm the words of the Lord and hastened the day of THE False prophet's arrival and the raising of the Beast..while many cringe at that thought, and fantasize about being raptured away, I praise God, because those two must appear before Jesus arrives. And when He arrives, the world will know He is who He said he is all along..now that's justice for Jesus. So some of you picked it and some of you missed it and was decieved, no matter, repent and continue your practice..of what? Practice of His word until you yourself can do what he has been doing, and even greater things than that(John14:12). The lack of daily miracles..I mean the lame walking, the blind seeing , the deaf hearing and so on..real physical miracles..not just salvation etc..is what fuels the hunger of christians to throw good money at mammon just to be blessed. they say 300000 went to lakeland, at a conservative 2000$ per head, that's60 million handed over to airlines, motels, hotels and restuarants...imaqgine if every body stayed home because revival happens every meeting at their churches already..that would be 60 million available for 300,000 third world pastors for one year, because most third world pastors only live on 50 to 200 dollars a month if they are lucky..that would have been a real revival. Next time mammon puts on one of this shows , stay home and send your airfares to a deserving pastor in india who faces death everyday for Christ, better still one in Iraq or Pakistan, where the real fight of faith is happening, and I am sure all the armchair warriors of the first worls church will be more blessed. Now if you want to start your own personal revival..pick up your bible, listen only to Jesus, practice..not believe His miracles in secrect until water turns to good wine, and you can even walk on water..then ask the Lord to send you the poor, the lame, the cripples and the blind,and practice on them what Jesus said we can all do (John 14:12)...if they will not let you do that at your church..don't leave, just do it in secrect as the Lord commanded, and let the Father rewaerd you, as those who oppose fall ill and the Lord use you to heal them that they amy repent..but stay humble.Does this work? Yep..first blind man seeing 5.3 2005 in Sydney Australia, with fullmedical and social security verification...not one of our members flew to lakeland..in fact no one was interested until the show collapsed, now the Lord has us searching out the injured..and sharing whatever he tells us to share. Listen to Jesus personally until your church can hear what the Spirit is saying to the church..and you will see revival at your own fellowship every week..with signs and wonders accompanying.parctice and get ready for the real fight..for the people who knows their God will resist him(Daniel).The Church at full power is our dream and vision, and Jesus deserves to be welcomed by such a church, as he puts His feet on the Mount of Olives.visit us at Holy Spirit's workshop..google will take you there on the net, and ask the Holy Spirit to translate you there if you desire to be with us in the flesh. Dr,Ed.a footstool of the Lord Jesus Christ. yes,praise God for the ‘revival’,and the exposure..it is always good to test your weapons and soldiers before the real fight begins..all that has been exposed is the consequence of each individual disciple of Jesus ignorance,even disobedience of the command by the father to listen to Him(Math17:5),and the absence of churches that obey the command to hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches(rev).All that has happened is to confirm the words of the Lord and hastened the day of THE False prophet’s arrival and the raising of the Beast..while many cringe at that thought, and fantasize about being raptured away, I praise God, because those two must appear before Jesus arrives. And when He arrives, the world will know He is who He said he is all along..now that’s justice for Jesus. So some of you picked it and some of you missed it and was decieved, no matter, repent and continue your practice..of what? Practice of His word until you yourself can do what he has been doing, and even greater things than that(John14:12). The lack of daily miracles..I mean the lame walking, the blind seeing , the deaf hearing and so on..real physical miracles..not just salvation etc..is what fuels the hunger of christians to throw good money at mammon just to be blessed. they say 300000 went to lakeland, at a conservative 2000$ per head, that’s60 million handed over to airlines, motels, hotels and restuarants…imaqgine if every body stayed home because revival happens every meeting at their churches already..that would be 60 million available for 300,000 third world pastors for one year, because most third world pastors only live on 50 to 200 dollars a month if they are lucky..that would have been a real revival. Next time mammon puts on one of this shows , stay home and send your airfares to a deserving pastor in india who faces death everyday for Christ, better still one in Iraq or Pakistan, where the real fight of faith is happening, and I am sure all the armchair warriors of the first worls church will be more blessed.
Now if you want to start your own personal revival..pick up your bible, listen only to Jesus, practice..not believe His miracles in secrect until water turns to good wine, and you can even walk on water..then ask the Lord to send you the poor, the lame, the cripples and the blind,and practice on them what Jesus said we can all do (John 14:12)…if they will not let you do that at your church..don’t leave, just do it in secrect as the Lord commanded, and let the Father rewaerd you, as those who oppose fall ill and the Lord use you to heal them that they amy repent..but stay humble.Does this work? Yep..first blind man seeing 5.3 2005 in Sydney Australia, with fullmedical and social security verification…not one of our members flew to lakeland..in fact no one was interested until the show collapsed, now the Lord has us searching out the injured..and sharing whatever he tells us to share. Listen to Jesus personally until your church can hear what the Spirit is saying to the church..and you will see revival at your own fellowship every week..with signs and wonders accompanying.parctice and get ready for the real fight..for the people who knows their God will resist him(Daniel).The Church at full power is our dream and vision, and Jesus deserves to be welcomed by such a church, as he puts His feet on the Mount of Olives.visit us at Holy Spirit’s workshop..google will take you there on the net, and ask the Holy Spirit to translate you there if you desire to be with us in the flesh. Dr,Ed.a footstool of the Lord Jesus Christ.

]]> By: pat holliday http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/09/01/bam-bam-how-todd-bentley-brought-down-the-latter-reign-apostolic-reformation-leaders.html#comment-1130 pat holliday Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:56:12 +0000 http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/2008/09/01/bam-bam-how-todd-bentley-brought-down-the-latter-reign-apostolic-reformation-leaders.html#comment-1130 AMEN! BAM BAM'S SILLY MINISTRY JUST OPENED A SORE AND PULLED THE SCAB OFF. It's now stinking and smelling up the entire church. see below TRANSFORMATIONS REVIVAL ~ BY GEORGE OTIS AND PETER WAGNER ~SPIRITUAL TRANSFORMATION ~ SHIFTS ~ QUALITIVE CHANGE ’ANGEL OF CHANGE” http://miraclewebchurch.com/membersite/videos/angel-in-the-whirlwind/index.html “. . There is a ministry after the five-fold called the ministry of perfection - the Melchisedek Priesthood . . . your children will be moving into the ministries of Perfection . . . coming into that Divine Nature of Jesus Christ . . . they themselves will be that generation that’s raised up to put death itself underneath their feet . . . because the Lord Jesus is worthy to be lifted up by a church that has reached the full maturity of the GOD-MAN!” [Bob Jones, (Kansas City Fellowship) transcribed from 1988 tape] COSMIC CONSCIOUSNESS The word transformation means a shift, or a qualitative change, a transfer from the original spiritual tenets to a switch over to a new religious belief system. Pat Holliday AMEN! BAM BAM’S SILLY MINISTRY JUST OPENED A SORE AND PULLED THE SCAB OFF.
It’s now stinking and smelling up the entire church.
see below

TRANSFORMATIONS REVIVAL ~ BY GEORGE OTIS AND PETER WAGNER ~SPIRITUAL TRANSFORMATION ~ SHIFTS ~ QUALITIVE CHANGE
’ANGEL OF CHANGE”
http://miraclewebchurch.com/membersite/videos/angel-in-the-whirlwind/index.html
“. . There is a ministry after the five-fold called the ministry of perfection – the Melchisedek Priesthood . . . your children will be moving into the ministries of Perfection . . . coming into that Divine Nature of Jesus Christ . . . they themselves will be that generation that’s raised up to put death itself underneath their feet . . . because the Lord Jesus is worthy to be lifted up by a church that has reached the full maturity of the GOD-MAN!”
[Bob Jones, (Kansas City Fellowship) transcribed from 1988 tape]

COSMIC CONSCIOUSNESS
The word transformation means a shift, or a qualitative change, a transfer from the original spiritual tenets to a switch over to a new religious belief system.

Pat Holliday

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