Positions on the Ezekiel 38-39 war and the Rapture

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Although I have seen this study posted in several different parts on a re-posting site elsewhere, the complete study is available on the link. This is about the best study I have seen on all the possible timings and positions on the Ezekiel 38-39 war. It gives all the different views and the pros and cons of each position. Nathan Jones position is quoted below. To read all the other views on this you will have to read the whole article.

By the way Nathan’s position is the same as mine except for a couple of timing differences. I am not sure this war is before the Rapture and I do not see how Israel could be burning the weapons of war for 7 years during the great tribulation?  At that point Antichrist has complete rule over the land of Israel and is exterminating Jews that did not flee to the mountains for safety. So how can Israel be burning Gog’s weapons of war in the great tribulation of 3 1/2 years?

My position is a little different then any Nathan presented. I think the war of Ezekiel 38-39 occurs 3 1/2 years before the 70th week of Daniel begins. After Gog is defeated supernaturally by God Israel burns the weapons of war but is forced to stop burning after 7 years because Israel has to flee from the Antichrist when the two witnesses sent by God are killed.

If you look at the many different views in this article you will see that none of them perfectly fit. I believe there is a reason for that. It is because most everyone thinks the war of Ezekiel 38-39 and Armageddon will happen within a seven year period. Actually I do not see where these events have to be limited to seven years at all. I do not think we can assume that all the seals of Revelation are within the last seven year spoken by Daniel. We also cannot assume that the first seals are part of Jacob’s trouble. The Jews are not even mentioned at all in Revelation until after the 6th seal is opened.

I say (not dogmatically) that the last seven years actually starts after the 6th seal. It begins with the sealing of 144,000 Jews. With my view we have a 10 1/2 year period from the war of Ezekiel 38-39 and Armageddon. All prophecy can then fit without using a shoehorn. In my view seven years after the Ezekiel intervention when the world is expecting a type of Christ to appear they receive the Antichrist.

So when is the Rapture in my view? It is imminent. It could happen today. It could be before the Ezekiel war or after it but before the sealing of the Jews.

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Timing Gog-Magog
When will Ezekiel 38-39 be fulfilled?
by Nathan E. Jones

My View
Which view one holds probably rests more on what one sees is the view that provides the most logical answers to the prerequisites. To me, timing the Gog-Magog Battle just before or at the very beginning of the Tribulation can best fulfill these prerequisites and makes the most logical sense in my mind.

This is how I see the timeline most likely playing out:

1. The Rapture of the Church removes the Restrainer.
2. Israel subjugates their surrounding neighbors in fulfillment of Psalm 83.
3. The Gog-Magog Battle destroys the Russian and Muslim influence in the Middle East, makes the world aware of God’s presence, and restores Israel’s belief in the God of the Torah.
4. The Antichrist conquers what’s left of the Middle East and makes a peace covenant with Israel to complete the Revived Roman Empire.
5. Israel spends the seven years of the Tribulation burning the weapons.
6. Jesus returns at the end of the seven years to defeat His enemies at Armageddon resulting in Israel acknowledging that Jesus is God’s Son.
7. Jesus gathers the people from all over the world for the Sheep/Goat Judgment, which results in only believers entering the Millennial Kingdom.

Time will tell when the Gog-Magog Battle will truly take place. But, the players are already in place and the scene is just about all set for this epic battle to be waged in the not-too-distant future.

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Date posted: Sunday, April 5th, 2009 1:12 pm | Under category: Bible prophecy teachers, Tribulation period
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  1. CarmenNo Gravatar said »

    I was just wondering if you are familiar with an article on Google entitled “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty” and would like your reaction to it. Carmen

  2. DonNo Gravatar said »

    I do not recall seeing that particular article since I do not spend my time searching to read articles with bad and rehashed theology. There are thousands of articles written against the pre-trib postion and they all bring up the same old tired arguments that have been answered over and over again.

    In short the main problem with the post toastie position is that they cannot discern the difference between what is written for Israel and what is written to the Church. They also do not understand that the Bride of Christ is already without spot or wrinkle because she is a new creature washed in the blood of the Lamb. They think the Bride has to be purged of imperfections during the tribulation. Post toasties think the faithful Church needs to be perfected by fighting the Antichrist and through martyrdom.

    Some new post toastie authors today teach the Beast is Islam because they think that they are already in the tribulation or that we will be in the next couple of years and Islam is the only possibility of a Beast that fits their extremely short time line. Or course it is all nonsense. The Beast/Antichrist is lawless and Islam is anything but lawless. The whole hedonistic Western world is not going to convert to the laws of Islam.

    If you search the article achieve on this website pre-trib.org you will find most of the arguments that refute any of the rehashed post toastie views. I am not going to rehash the many arguments here. My views are already written in my own article on the rapture.

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