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	<title>Comments on: Rick Warren apologizes to homosexual leaders because some thought he was against homosexual marriage.</title>
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		<title>By: SpeakTruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpeakTruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 06:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Don for such a clear a account of the true nature of this man. I appreciate that someone is willing to tell it like it is rather than drink the Rick Warren kool-aid like so many others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Don for such a clear a account of the true nature of this man. I appreciate that someone is willing to tell it like it is rather than drink the Rick Warren kool-aid like so many others.</p>
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		<title>By: BIll Rough</title>
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		<dc:creator>BIll Rough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 11:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beter to listen to the voice of Jesus  than Rick Warren.  They went out from us but were not trully of us.  Take great care to what you hear in this day and age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beter to listen to the voice of Jesus  than Rick Warren.  They went out from us but were not trully of us.  Take great care to what you hear in this day and age.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 21:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick Warren said where he stands on this issue. I suggest you read the links that I provided in this article they quote his own words. The only confusion is the confusion of Rick Warren. He lied to Larry King about what he said to his church (that is recorded) and he is apologizing to the homosexuals because they believed what he said to his church (also recorded). Not to mention his spin with Larry King about him not taking a position on gay marriage.

Rick Warren is one of the most well known people in America. His every word is a matter of public record. It is not necessary to know Rick Warren personally to know what he said publicly anymore than we need to know the Pope personally to know what he said publicly.

We have all the knowledge we need to make judgments on Rick Warren&#039;s public positions because Rick Warren is using world media to speak to the world. We are not talking about what Rick Warren said in a closet or in confidence. If discerning Christians did not judge the words of other public high profile leaders most &quot;Christians&quot; would be in cults.

&lt;strong&gt;It is not the example we are setting for evangelical churches that is the issue here. It is the example some evangelical churches and their church leaders are setting for us.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;This is not gossip! Learn the meaning of the word.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;It is a issue of Christian accountability and biblical discernment.&lt;/strong&gt; If you cannot tell the difference maybe you should just be silent instead of judging us and causing undue discord. Your rational about not talking about the teaching of high profile Christian leaders when they are not present is frankly, loony. How do you suggest we get public figures present?  Therefore, if well known Christians are going to take public stands on issues in front of the whole world they will also be corrected publicly when they are in error. Otherwise many will be misled. If all Christians checked out what their leaders say against what God said in His Word we would not have most of the problems we have in &quot;Christianity&quot; today. If Christians are supposed to just play follow the leader we might as well all submit to the highest profile of them all and just bow to the doctrines of Popes and Catholicism. But, didn&#039;t we have a reformation or was that all gossip?
Give me a break!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Warren said where he stands on this issue. I suggest you read the links that I provided in this article they quote his own words. The only confusion is the confusion of Rick Warren. He lied to Larry King about what he said to his church (that is recorded) and he is apologizing to the homosexuals because they believed what he said to his church (also recorded). Not to mention his spin with Larry King about him not taking a position on gay marriage.</p>
<p>Rick Warren is one of the most well known people in America. His every word is a matter of public record. It is not necessary to know Rick Warren personally to know what he said publicly anymore than we need to know the Pope personally to know what he said publicly.</p>
<p>We have all the knowledge we need to make judgments on Rick Warren&#8217;s public positions because Rick Warren is using world media to speak to the world. We are not talking about what Rick Warren said in a closet or in confidence. If discerning Christians did not judge the words of other public high profile leaders most &#8220;Christians&#8221; would be in cults.</p>
<p><strong>It is not the example we are setting for evangelical churches that is the issue here. It is the example some evangelical churches and their church leaders are setting for us.</strong></p>
<p><strong>This is not gossip! Learn the meaning of the word.</strong> <strong>It is a issue of Christian accountability and biblical discernment.</strong> If you cannot tell the difference maybe you should just be silent instead of judging us and causing undue discord. Your rational about not talking about the teaching of high profile Christian leaders when they are not present is frankly, loony. How do you suggest we get public figures present?  Therefore, if well known Christians are going to take public stands on issues in front of the whole world they will also be corrected publicly when they are in error. Otherwise many will be misled. If all Christians checked out what their leaders say against what God said in His Word we would not have most of the problems we have in &#8220;Christianity&#8221; today. If Christians are supposed to just play follow the leader we might as well all submit to the highest profile of them all and just bow to the doctrines of Popes and Catholicism. But, didn&#8217;t we have a reformation or was that all gossip?<br />
Give me a break!</p>
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		<title>By: Spock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 18:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... I understand the controversy. The question I ask is, &quot;do any of you know Rick Warren personally?&quot; Can you approach him and find out where he really stands? 

There is obviously some confusion here whether it is on his part or the people who write about him.  

Regardless, it is highly inappropriate to sit in our ivory towers and make judgments about what his stand is without more knowledge. Since Rev. Warren is not a part of this conversation, then the verbage I have just read is nothing more than gossip. 

Gentlemen, I would beg you to consider the example you are setting for evangelical churches. This is inappropriate! Yes, Rev. Warren may be in error. That is not the issue here. Gossip is the issue! And gossip occurs when people talk about another individual when he is not present!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; I understand the controversy. The question I ask is, &#8220;do any of you know Rick Warren personally?&#8221; Can you approach him and find out where he really stands? </p>
<p>There is obviously some confusion here whether it is on his part or the people who write about him.  </p>
<p>Regardless, it is highly inappropriate to sit in our ivory towers and make judgments about what his stand is without more knowledge. Since Rev. Warren is not a part of this conversation, then the verbage I have just read is nothing more than gossip. </p>
<p>Gentlemen, I would beg you to consider the example you are setting for evangelical churches. This is inappropriate! Yes, Rev. Warren may be in error. That is not the issue here. Gossip is the issue! And gossip occurs when people talk about another individual when he is not present!</p>
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		<title>By: nasrani</title>
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		<dc:creator>nasrani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joel, thanks for your kind words about my avatar. :) Sorry to hear about your health though. I&#039;m just a young man so I have no idea what all that must be like. Maybe if Christ really returns in my lifetime I won&#039;t even have to worry about deteriorating health. In any case it&#039;s a comfort to know that we&#039;ll all be changed at one point and receive brand new and glorified bodies. What exactly that&#039;s going to be like I don&#039;t know but there&#039;s no doubt that it&#039;s going to be a heck of a lot better than the bodies of flesh and blood we have to deal with while we wait. 

Good post, Ken. That basically sums up what kind of person Warren is. He&#039;s more like a politician than a pastor except that he doesn&#039;t have to worry about votes but church membership. Someone who likes to have it both ways and changes like a chameleon depending on his public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joel, thanks for your kind words about my avatar. <img src='http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Sorry to hear about your health though. I&#8217;m just a young man so I have no idea what all that must be like. Maybe if Christ really returns in my lifetime I won&#8217;t even have to worry about deteriorating health. In any case it&#8217;s a comfort to know that we&#8217;ll all be changed at one point and receive brand new and glorified bodies. What exactly that&#8217;s going to be like I don&#8217;t know but there&#8217;s no doubt that it&#8217;s going to be a heck of a lot better than the bodies of flesh and blood we have to deal with while we wait. </p>
<p>Good post, Ken. That basically sums up what kind of person Warren is. He&#8217;s more like a politician than a pastor except that he doesn&#8217;t have to worry about votes but church membership. Someone who likes to have it both ways and changes like a chameleon depending on his public.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone still on the fence of this one should see this:
http://onesheep.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/rick-warren-goes-both-ways/

How do people still fall for this guy&#039;s ploys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone still on the fence of this one should see this:<br />
<a href="http://onesheep.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/rick-warren-goes-both-ways/" rel="nofollow">http://onesheep.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/rick-warren-goes-both-ways/</a></p>
<p>How do people still fall for this guy&#8217;s ploys?</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about tap dancing. This article on onenewsnow.com about what Rick Warrens said on Larry King quotes a speech he made to his church strongly supporting proposition 8 and telling Christians to vote for it. 
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=481280

That is part of the problem with Rick Warren he will have one song and dance that pleases Christians and another song and dance that pleases the world. Rick Warren is a wishy-washy double minded man and what he said to Larry King is not the truth either. Just read what he said to his church and compare it to what he told Larry King.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about tap dancing. This article on onenewsnow.com about what Rick Warrens said on Larry King quotes a speech he made to his church strongly supporting proposition 8 and telling Christians to vote for it.<br />
<a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=481280" rel="nofollow">http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=481280</a></p>
<p>That is part of the problem with Rick Warren he will have one song and dance that pleases Christians and another song and dance that pleases the world. Rick Warren is a wishy-washy double minded man and what he said to Larry King is not the truth either. Just read what he said to his church and compare it to what he told Larry King.</p>
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		<title>By: kevneto</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevneto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 04:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps someone should send Mr. Warren back to basic Christianity 101.

Newsflash!  What we have to say is not going to be popular in our culture and will not tickle itching ears.

I was thinking how Mr. Warren spoke so eloquently back at our dear leader&#039;s &quot;coronation&quot; back in January. I believe that Warren did not hardly mention the name of Jesus. How different would it have been if the Apostle Paul would of had the opportunity to speak to millions of people in a single setting as Mr. Warrren had. A chance to present the gospel  and the Kingdom of God to untold souls. What a waste.

I understand &quot;hate the sin and love the sinner&quot;. But when put on the spot, one must lay out what the Word of God says and not tap dance around the issue with some politically-correct platitudes. If one is an Christian, then they are against gay marriage, whether they be an activist or not. Period, end of story. His words left me speechless. How can a pastor even say that?

It&#039;s sad that a prominent christian is more concerned about his appearance in the popular culture and media than presenting the truth; no matter who it offends.

Sad state of affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps someone should send Mr. Warren back to basic Christianity 101.</p>
<p>Newsflash!  What we have to say is not going to be popular in our culture and will not tickle itching ears.</p>
<p>I was thinking how Mr. Warren spoke so eloquently back at our dear leader&#8217;s &#8220;coronation&#8221; back in January. I believe that Warren did not hardly mention the name of Jesus. How different would it have been if the Apostle Paul would of had the opportunity to speak to millions of people in a single setting as Mr. Warrren had. A chance to present the gospel  and the Kingdom of God to untold souls. What a waste.</p>
<p>I understand &#8220;hate the sin and love the sinner&#8221;. But when put on the spot, one must lay out what the Word of God says and not tap dance around the issue with some politically-correct platitudes. If one is an Christian, then they are against gay marriage, whether they be an activist or not. Period, end of story. His words left me speechless. How can a pastor even say that?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad that a prominent christian is more concerned about his appearance in the popular culture and media than presenting the truth; no matter who it offends.</p>
<p>Sad state of affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nasrani, I like the picture of James Bond, I use to be handsome with hair I could comb over the top of my head, was able to hit a knat&#039;s butt with a 30/06 and iron sights at over a hundred yards, but now I have to stay close to my inhalers and O2 generator :), .  

Mr. Warren has been seduced by the things in this world, instead of concentrating on God&#039;s Kingdom to come and trying to convince more that that is where we belong.  We are but sojerners, walking through this wilderness, heading for the Promised Land.  Watch out for the mines and the trip wires (ie: Purpose Driven Life and such books).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nasrani, I like the picture of James Bond, I use to be handsome with hair I could comb over the top of my head, was able to hit a knat&#8217;s butt with a 30/06 and iron sights at over a hundred yards, but now I have to stay close to my inhalers and O2 generator <img src='http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> , .  </p>
<p>Mr. Warren has been seduced by the things in this world, instead of concentrating on God&#8217;s Kingdom to come and trying to convince more that that is where we belong.  We are but sojerners, walking through this wilderness, heading for the Promised Land.  Watch out for the mines and the trip wires (ie: Purpose Driven Life and such books).</p>
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		<title>By: nasrani</title>
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		<dc:creator>nasrani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick Warren. Author and certified salesman of Purpose-Driven Drivel. Teacher of idolatry and self-enlightenment. Twister of the Truth. Moral Relativist and self-styled Ambassador to rogue Christian-persecuting regimes. Savior of the victims of AIDS; Apostle of Obama the Messiah.

What was to be expected of this crypto Socialist and self-anointed Postmodern Pope of the Evangelic Church. Nothing, apart from blasphemy as befits a False Prophet. 

I&#039;m truly glad he made this preposterous statement and has now finally revealed his true liberal colors. 

Perhaps this will finally convince the unconvinced that this man and his &quot;theology&quot; is phony and unbiblical and that there is no guarantee of eternal salvation found in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Warren. Author and certified salesman of Purpose-Driven Drivel. Teacher of idolatry and self-enlightenment. Twister of the Truth. Moral Relativist and self-styled Ambassador to rogue Christian-persecuting regimes. Savior of the victims of AIDS; Apostle of Obama the Messiah.</p>
<p>What was to be expected of this crypto Socialist and self-anointed Postmodern Pope of the Evangelic Church. Nothing, apart from blasphemy as befits a False Prophet. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m truly glad he made this preposterous statement and has now finally revealed his true liberal colors. </p>
<p>Perhaps this will finally convince the unconvinced that this man and his &#8220;theology&#8221; is phony and unbiblical and that there is no guarantee of eternal salvation found in it.</p>
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