One of the things I deal with almost everyday are trends in the world and the church and how it all relates to Bible prophecy. I try to be balanced and not join with all those Christians on the fringe who are convinced that there is some Satanic elitist conspiracy to immediately thrust the Antichrist upon us all and fulfill their fantasy of the world ending this decade. The spirit of antichrist is already alive and well in America but the Antichrist figure of Bible prophecy is not coming as soon as some seem to think.

I just do not see the evidence for this imminent Antichrist like some think they do. People thought they had the evidence many times in history. Just in this generation we have had the second coming expectations of the late 1980’s the late 1990’s and now the 2012 cult. The biblical evidence for those prior periods where actually stronger than any evidence presented by the 2012 cult of today. Their claims are subjective at best and they use one subjective theory to support other subjective theory. It becomes circular reasoning and it is not Bible based it really is mostly pagan based suppositions.

With all the Christians in the world that are in every organization you would think that someone could expose this vast conspiracy to take over the world and present it to us in a way that will lead most Christians to believe them. The truth is that if we had such proof we could prevent it from taking place but they never come up with anything worth taking to court. The truth of the matter is that conspiracy teachers are all over the board. They agree on very little other than that there are Satanic initiated conspiracies. Well we already know that there are conspiracies against the sons of light but He that is in us is greater than he that is in the world. One thing that is notable is that most of these conspiracy people are always on the Christian fringe. Most either fellowship nowhere at all or else in small conspiracy minded cells.

The reason many of these are on the fringe of Christianity is because almost everything they build is off the foundation. They have left the foundations of the prophets and the Apostles and are in some off site lab trying to figure out God’s timing and His message about end time events through the actions of world elite bankers, analytical methods and through man’s own reasoning.

They say, lets measure the distance from the Temple to somewhere else on earth for that will reveal hidden knowledge, or lets measure the Pyramid to figure out the time of end time events, or lets look for hidden codes in the Bible to predict the future, or lets even say the Spirit put in the people of Israel in Ezekiel Chapter 37 was already fulfilled even though Israel’s people today are still filled with an antichrist spirit.

The latest antichrist expectation for the over excited is that some Mahdi will come out of well or a Lord Maitreya figure will come fulfilling the expectations of all Religions. Well I have news for Benjamin Creme and his Lord Maitreya. People have been waiting to see your Lord Maitreya appear for quite some time now. Remember, your followers were putting full page adds in national newspaper about his soon appearing several decades ago. So I guess the Lord Maitreya forgot to show up, or did he just fall asleep?

Don’t expect any Mahdi to pop out of a well either and lead Islam to take over the world. That is just another pagan fantasy. There are going to be many disappointed among the 2012 end of the world fanatics when they can find no Mahdi to fight.

Through my own experiences spanning four decades of  following the claims of self anointed prophets and writers with claimed new understandings I now get a little weary of it all. I could fill a dump truck with books written by Christian authors about Bible prophecy that they were ill advised to write. For example, 88 Reasons why the Lord would return in 1988, or Racing toward Judgment, or Hidden Prophecies in the Psalms (that make each chapter in the Psalms fit something that happened in the same year as the chapter number in the twenty century – what a crock), or Revelation 2000, or Armageddon Appointment with Destiny, etc. Now we have the  2012 new crop of useless books and the presumptions TV and radio teachers and false prophets where “Christians” hang on their every word. The reality is that Christians are just wasting their time with most of this stuff. These self appointed prophets and writers have no more knowledge about end times than anyone else. They just know how to write books that will appeal to those looking for a new special revelation.

The Rapture, and the tribulation with its Antichrist is going to happen in God’s timing and I seriously doubt that anyone can possibly know that it will happen in this decade in spite of those teaching this with best intentions.

The end of the worlder’s “Christians” are one side of the coin, on the other side are the leaders in Christianity that are increasingly being yoked with unbelievers in the world. Somehow they think they will make Christianity popular and something to be desired by the world.So they teach a flesh message that pleases the world of flesh still dead in their sins.

They really are soft and sometimes hard dominionists. We have people like Rick Warren and Joel Olsteen adopting the methods of the world because worldly techniques produce worldly measures of success. Nevermind, that there is no gospel of Jesus Christ ever given in all their methodologies and feel good messages. Now we have others joining this “celibate humanity bandwagon”. Forcus on the family seem to be going that way now that they got rid of Dr. Dobbson, as are many others.

Lets be clear. Jesus did not tell us to become like the world and He did not tell us to stop telling the world that people are dead in sin. People still need His salvation. Jesus did not say you can stay in your religion because all religions reflect God. Jesus said, He is the door to God and  nobody comes to the Father except through Him. The gospel is not telling the world they can become prosperous if they practice biblical concepts or humanism. The gospel is not about gaining worldly success and getting your best life now or some purpose driven life for people still dead in their sins. A gospel without a gospel of dying to self and of obtaining spiritual salvation through Jesus Christ is worthless. Those “Christians” that give the illusion that they are ambassadors for Christ without a gospel of salvation are apparently working for a different Kingdom.

The sad state of Christianity in America is evident when a supposed mostly Christian nation freely elects an administration that is hostile toward the teachings of Christ. So now these American “Christians” have been hit in the pocket book because the nation is under judgment so they wag God and country and think the nation will become prosperous again if they just change the leadership. So now it looks like these “Christians” will go from one extreme to another. They will go from electing someone who signs laws and picks aids that are hostile to Christians to wanting to elect someone that believes Word of Faith presumptuous false prophets give messages from God. So will electing dominionst or Christian cult influenced leaders solve the sin problem in the Untied States or will it just further divide the people?  Until “Christians” actually become Christians in this nation and live like Christians and work to convert the lost in this nation, America will remain under judgment and delusion.

The spirit of the antichrist is always within those not living for Christ and it will destroy this nation long before the Antichrist figure of Bible prophecy ever appears in the scene unless America repents and seeks the healing that can only be found in a nation that is actually following Christ.

Every hear of Joel’s Army? This article will tell you all about what is coming from the “New Wave” or “Third Wave” act that is sweeping the Charismatic crowd looking for titillating manisfestations of God through demonic people. You know, the stuff coming from the Todd Bentley’s, the Rick Joiner’s and all the manifest sons of deception crowd. Notice that Joel’s army physically attacks the church in order to purify it. I guess they want us to believe that a demonically inspired group of men is going to purify the church and take the world for Christ. Sure! And the Easter Bunny is the risen Christ.

If you believe the Bible teaches any of this stuff that these people are saying you really need to read through your Bible for the first time in your life.

Joseph Chambers

Dominion Theology and Joel’s Army

Religious deception is always the most subtle and dangerous kind. When the church forsakes the old paths of righteousness and consecration, the next step is haughtiness and doctrinal confusion. It is impossible to rightly interpret Scripture; to rightly divide the great truths of the “meat of the Word” unless humility and a contrite spirit controls our life. There are no haughty and arrogant prophets in the kingdom of God. “The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.” (Psalm 51:17).

The entire Evangelical church world is being assaulted with the Kingdom Dominion Theology. It is like mortal combat between those who defend the Biblical doctrines of the End Times (The Rapture of Christ’s Bride, the Tribulation followed by the Millennium) and the “New Wave Theology.” A book entitled Joel’s Army describes this “New Wave Theology” as promoted by one New Wave organization. The author stated that this ministry was “holding conferences overseas and throughout the U.S.A. Churches and denominations are being proselytized and preyed on with a ‘gospel’ they claim is ordained to bring forth:

1. the greatest revival the Church has ever known;
2. the greatest baptism of the Spirit the Church has ever experienced;
3. the greatest Army (Joel’s Army) distinguished by invincibility, immortality and divinity;
4. the greatest purging (inquisition) in the history of the Church;
5. the greatest ministry – the Prize of all Ages; and
6. the greatest miracles, supernatural signs and wonders far exceeding that of the Apostles and Prophets of old.” (JOEL’S ARMY, pages 1&2).

Since Joel’s Army is supposed to be men and women taking possession of this earth for their King, a second class of warriors becomes necessary. These they call the “Phineas Priesthood.” Rick Joyner made mention of those with the “spirit of Phineas” in his book, The Harvest.

“The dismantling of organizations and disbanding of some works will be a positive and exhilarating experience for the Lord’s faithful servants…..a great company of prophets, teachers, pastors and apostles will be raised up with the spirit of Phineas…” (THE HARVEST, Rick Joyner).

A book written by Richard Kelly Hoskins entitled, “Vigilantes Of Christendom,” describes these warriors. He says of them, “As the Kamikaze is to the Japanese, As the Shiite is to Islam, As the Zionist is to the Jew, So the Phineas priest is to Christendom.” It is very clear that they are preparing to slaughter those who resist their authority. Jesus warned that, “They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.” (St. John 16:2). That sounds exactly like the great inquisitors of the dark ages.

“The DAY OF THE LORD as seen through the eyes of the NEW WAVE ‘prophets’ will be a time when JOEL’S ARMY led by the ‘prophets’ will pour out God’s wrath on the church. Then for the first time in two thousand years the ‘pure church’ will come forth. In other words, the ‘blood of Christ’ did not avail, nor will it in the LAST DAYS because JOEL’S ARMY and the ‘prophets’ will do what the blood could not, i.e., cleanse the Church. If indeed it takes JOEL’S ARMY to purify the church, then all the preaching of the Cross from the early Church to the present was in vain. And rather than the ‘cross’ being God’s final answer to ‘walking in newness of life’ . . ., we do well to look for another. The JOEL’S ARMY doctrine as it applies to the Church and world is not only in total conflict with the ‘Gospel of Christ’, but is a radical new rendition of the doctrine of redemption and purification. By all analysis, it is ‘another gospel’ and poses a real threat to unstable churches in that it is yet another great deception beguiling the Church.” (JOEL’S ARMY, page 9.)

Warning
Every theological direction these religionists are taking is rooted in esoteric revelations rather than the “tried and true” doctrines of the Bible. They are quick to say that this is a day of new revelations. The New Agers call it a “paradigm shift.” Tommy Reid, a noted New Wave leader, calls it “a new world view.” The Bible calls it “apostasy.”

A sovereign move of God’s Holy Spirit is the only answer to these wild speculations. There are a multitude of “angels of light” sent by Satan to deceive. If you are looking for something titilating, you will probably find the same. If you are looking for “the Way, the Truth, and the Life,” He lives in the Holy Scripture and is waiting for you to open the door. He reveals Himself in your will and heart (spirit), not your emotions.

The whole idea that there will be a wealth transfer from the world to the Church is preposterous. What do they think the world will be doing while we take away their wealth and what in the world would we do with the wealth of the world anyway? Get rid of poverty? Where does it say the Church will do that in scripture? Actually these people will take new found wealth to build more and larger circus tents for their “third wave” freak shows?

There is no such concept of a wealth transfer to the Church in scripture it is totally contrary to what the scripture teaches.

These “third wave” self appointed, apostles, prophets and healers are proud presumptuous deranged people or they are greedy con artists and liars.

The “third wave” apostles, false prophets and healers appeal to people’s flesh and that is the only reason they have a following. They certainly do not hear the true gospel from these people and they do receive any sound Christian teaching.

These are the people Jesus was talking about in Matthew chapter 7: 21-22. They tell Jesus did we not prophecy in your name and cast out Devils in your name and do great works? But, Jesus will say to them depart from me you workers of inequity I never knew you.

Most of these people are con men deceivers. I am not so gullible as to believe that they actually believe the stuff they peddle. I guess there could be a few simple minded exceptions in the group but the rest are simply religious acting con artists.

They use scriptures without understanding because they have none. They have no Holy Spirit to give it to them. They are followed by those who do not read God’s word. They would rather listen to people who tickle their itching ears. They could all be board members of the First Church of the Flesh.

These leaders claim to be apostles, prophets and healers and they claim to be great anointed people of God but they really are the wolves in sheep’s clothing that the Bible warns us against.

People wonder why I say the “Word of Faith” movement is a false gospel cult. Well, what movement produced the prideful presumptive demonic “third wave” movement and the prosperity gospel? They distort everything in the Bible. So much so, that their Jesus cannot even be found in any honest study of the Bible.

I think many of the “third wave” leaders are demon possessed and many of those who go to their gatherings are in danger of becoming demon possessed. Many of the regulars who go to their meetings display manifestations of occult demon possession. They are not of sound mind. Neither Jesus Christ, nor the Holy Spirit is in the tabernacle.

If you are following these people run! You are playing with fire.

Bible Prophecy Today | Bible Prophecy News and Commentary by Today’s Leading Bible Prophecy Scholars | News and Commentary from a Biblical Perspective

Will the Church soon be showered with the wealth of the unrighteous, thus being able to fund the last, great global harvest of souls? Again quoting C. Peter Wagner, “I think the time is ripe for those of us who are apostles to begin to understand the crucial role we have in God’s plan to release the wealth of the wicked for the advance of the kingdom of God.”[2]

But what does the Bible say? Pursuing a historical-grammatical interpretation—in other words, interpreting the Bible as it reads—try as one might, one cannot find this view supported in the Bible.

Dealing first with the “wealth transfer” notion, indeed, we do find that there is a great wealth transfer prophesied in Scripture. However, it has nothing to do with the Church, but rather applies to Israel and the Millennial period.

There are many other problems with the last-day wealth transfer notion applying to the Church. For example, it is claimed that there will yet be a last-day global harvest before the Lord returns, and that the Church will need great wealth to fund this objective as well as eradicating poverty in the world. Says Wagner, “In order to possess the gate of wealth to, among other things, develop plans to eradicate systemic poverty, we need to develop new structures of intercession to do the spiritual warfare necessary to transfer wealth.[3]”

However, the Bible says directly otherwise. Clearly implying that there would be little faith upon earth when He returns,

So is there a great, last-day wealth transfer to the Church? Scripture easily and clearly settles this question. Yet, theologians who should have sufficient knowledge of what the Bible says[4] instead prefer to trust their own intuitions and prophecies. This recent statement from Apostle Peter (also known as C. Peter Wagner) provides an example of such vanity, in which he appears to make his own decrees supersede Scripture. Spoken on the great reverential authority of the claimed office of an early New Testament apostle, he literally commands the earth’s obedience. Not even the first Apostle Peter spoke with such licence. (One also wonders why the foundations of the New Jerusalem will be named after the original 12 apostles and not more? —See Revelation 21:14.)

“I hereby take the apostolic authority that I have been given by God. I decree that vast amounts of wealth will be released supernaturally, even from godless and pagan sources. I decree that large numbers of God’s chosen people will be empowered in fresh and creative ways to gain wealth according to Deuteronomy 8:18. New inventions will multiply. Disruptive technologies will change the life patterns of the whole human race. The earth will disgorge vast riches of hidden resources. These will be entrusted to God’s agents. Profits will increase exponentially. It is spoken. So may it come to pass! Amen and amen!”[5]

Today, as all too frequently with other Third Wave Christian movements supposedly marked by “fresh moves of the Spirit,” new or revised theologies have been revealed on the strength of new prophecies uttered by their own prophets. The serious issue here is that these prophecies serve to revise what God originally said through his prophets and Scripture. Indeed, such revisions are not a new phenomenon, having been the mark of many if not all apostate movements or beliefs.

The true Church of the last days, if anything, is more of a remnant than it is resplendent with wealth. Revelation 3:8 says that the church of the “open door” is weak and feeble; far from being imbued with worldly power and wealth. It is this little Philadelphian band of believers, to which is promised, “Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth” (Revelation 3:10). If the Third Wave movements are correct, one wonders why it is the rich Laodicean church that is being reprimanded by Christ.

I do not doubt that Bush will convert to Catholicism. There is not a whole lot of difference between Episcopalian Theology and Catholic Theology anyway. Bush by his previous statements also makes it quite clear that he really thinks that all religions worship the same God. So, Bush really does not have understanding of the biblical statement that says that no one comes to the Father accept through Jesus.

I think Bible believing Christians need to realize that George Bush and most of those around him really have religion not biblical Christianity. George Bush believes in globalism and a pluralist world religion just like Tony Blair. The world elite have already determined that the Pope will lead this world religion. Other world leaders will follow suit and become Catholics.

This move back to Catholicism by political and religious figures and their common attack on Bible believing fundamentalists as being dangerous is the obvious rise of the “Woman that rides the Beast” of Revelation and will lead to persecution of true Christians. Maybe Bush is looking for a role to play in the promotion of the Tony Blair Foundation that has been set up for that end.
These world leaders are very self deceived or they are deliberately deceiving. They intend to bring in a world religion and world government run by power elite with a common mind. They are really paving the way for the Beast Antichrist.

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

George W Bush meets Pope amid claims he might convert to Catholicism – Telegraph

George W Bush and Pope Benedict XVI have held an intimate meeting in Rome as rumours mounted in Italy that the president may follow in Tony Blair’s footsteps and convert to Catholicism.

A source close to the Vatican said that Mr Bush was the most “Catholic-minded” president since John F Kennedy, who famously played down his Catholicism. Mr Bush belongs to a Methodist church in Texas and prays at an Episcopal church in Washington.

However, it is thought unlikely that Mr Bush would convert until after he has left office. Jeb Bush, the president’s brother, has already converted to Catholicism.

Catholics have noted that during the contested election in 2000, Jeb Bush travelled to Mexico and prayed to the icon of Our Lady of Guadelupe. His victory was announced by the Supreme Court on December 12, the feast day of the Lady of Guadelupe.

I was not going to write about Tony Blair’s kick off speech to his new Faith foundation http://tonyblairfaithfoundation.org/2008/05/tony-blairs-speech-to-launch-t.html because I did not want to rain on this social effort and just look at the end time implications.

As You can see I changed my mind. While I was out cutting grass half the day I got an email asking for me to do a radio interview on the one world church implications of this (from a very well known Conservative Christian organization). When I came back in and answered the email it probably was too late for the show anyway. I am not a great one for doing interviews because I like to think about what I am saying before I say it. When I talk my mouth does not usually allow my brain to do that. My brain still runs on a single processor. When I combine talking and thinking it never comes out the way I would have wished.

I also highly suspect that they were really trying to get a radio interview with Bill Koenig since he does the speaking circuits. This mix up has happened before since there are two Koenig’s in the Bible prophecy field.

The other reason I decided to write this article is that after thinking about it this foundation could be the most significant political creation in history that will move the world toward a pluralist tolerant all faiths mentality.

In other words this may be the actual start of putting together the harlot woman who rides the end time Beast Antichrist world system into power (Rev 17:17).

With that in mind lets looks at Tony Blair’s speech. Also be mindful that Tony Blair has just converted to Roman Catholicism and although his faith in the Roman Church may be real, he is going to use this Catholic platform to bring in globalism through religion.

The foundation will concern itself with six leading faiths.Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh and Jewish, That includes the major religious influences in the world today.

Tony thinks as globalism goes forward and national boundaries are broken down the glue that will hold mankind together to solve the global problems will be religion. He equate religion with faith but it is not.

He says religion provides a common basis of values and beliefs for people to get along together. Obviously he is not talking about religions as they are today. He is talking about some idealist unified religion that only exists in his thoughts of what religion could become if everyone would just agrees that everyone is right.

He says his foundation wants to show faith in action. That sounds wonderful but faith in action is different things to different people? Is faith in action doing social good works or is it proclaiming the gospel with those social good works? In Blair’s faith in action scheme preaching Christianity would not be allowed.

Tony also wants everyone to know what other religions believe and he thinks that will make them comfortable with other religions. Obviously he thinks we all really just have a different way to the same God and we just have to learn that so we can get along.

I fully know about the beliefs of some of these other religions and it just makes me more uncomfortable because their way to God is not the way that Jesus said was the only way to God. I would have to give up my Christian beliefs to think that these others religions are on a path to God. My faith says that without Jesus Christ they are doomed. No greater understanding of their man make religions with their man made god’s is going to make me accept religions where man is justified by his own good works. How does fully understanding Islam change the lies in Islam? Or how does fully understanding that Hindus worship of millions of god’s change my view of that damnable pagan practice etc.

The course Tony Blair wants designed in Universities is called “Faith and Globalisation” Well we know that globalisation is what Tony Blair wants but most people in the world do not want globalisation. Elitists like Blair want it so that they can totally manage our lives and its prophetic that he intends to do it through a unification of the religions.

Another avenue they plan to take is education through the mass media. You might call that mass brainwashing because that is what it will really be. Pretty soon “Faith and Globalisation” will be played side by side will Al Gore’s “Inconvenient Truth” to continue the brainwashing of everyone in the world.

Tony Blair in his speech equates religious differences with race and gender differences as if education about skin color or sex is no different than education about religion. I have news, race problems are not usually about skin color at all it is mostly about cultural differences. Do you see the world ethnic groups becoming closer because they are now educated in race relations? That is rediculous. There is more ethnic hatred now than there was before the education programs. It will be worse with religion. Learning about someone else’s religion is not going to bridge the gap between the huge differences. It will just make more people aware of the reasons why that hate those in other religions.

I think the social works they are planning to do are commendable but social works are not going to save the world. If they can use religion to help people socially fine but that is what humans should be doing regardless.

Blair wants to expand the Abraham house in London to include those of other beliefs. I am not sure what the point ot this is. Mixing God’s word with doctrines of demons is not going to produce a hybrid unless it looks like the Devil.

The most troubling part of Blair’s speech is his stand against all extremism. Well Mr. Blair, true Christianity is an extreme religion. It clams that the only way to God is through His Son Jesus Christ. So that form of Christianity is sure to go on the interfaith chopping block. I am sure Blair would love everyone to keep their rituals so they can make pretend that they are doing something spiritual and Holy like many Catholics. He also says that extremists in Islam are a perversion of that faith. In fact, the extremists are the only ones that are keeping the true teachings of Islam. So in other words, Blair wants to modify all religions to appease all other religion. He does not call that watering it down, call it what you want Mr. Blair but it is really taking out what offends me from your religion and then I will take out what offends you. I can see it now, a long ongoing summit of religions to bargain away their passages.

Jesus did not say that Christiantiy would unify faiths he said,

Mat 10:24″Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

Christianity is a radical religion and that is why millions have given up their lives to get out the message of salvation to the world. Now they want modern Christians to just forget about that divine commission and instead promote a gospel of can’t we all get along? Faith in Christ is supposed to pull people apart. Believers are leaving the world and becoming new creations. Blair says that this is destructive and dangerous. Well maybe from the world’s point of view it is, but we are not of this world and that is why people who want to build their own utopia right here and now without the Lordship of Jesus on earth really hate our message.

Well guess who is on the advisory counsel of Blair’s foundation? None other than Rick and Kay Warren who show up in all the CFR worldly places. I guess that should not surprise anyone these days.

Sayyid Syeed a veteran of interfaith outreach, said it is possible to find common ground without watering down religious teachings if the work is based on sound scholarship about each faith. I guess Sayyid really means scholarship from liberals who do not take the text literally anyway.

So that is the Blair Witch Project. So where is this all heading?

I think this will continue to grow among the Liberals and the postmodern emerging Christians who want a pluralistc soft dominionism but I do not think it will catch fire until after the world religious wars. This is just setting the foundation for the real interfaith program that will become a mandatory world wide program after those wars. At that point everyone will be brainwashed into believing that a interfaith solution is the only answer for world peace.

After the religious wars governments will be so afraid of new religious wars that they will outlaw all speech that is offensive to any other religion. As a Christian that will mean that you cannot say that Jesus is the only way to God, or that anyone is a sinner going to hell. You will also not be able to talk about a coming judgment or a physical second coming of Jesus. Saying these things will be breaking the law and if you do they will either send you to a brainwashing camp or you will be put in prison as a danger to world peace.

The Roman Church will speak for the interfaith religion, by the way, she already has a seat at the U.N and has embassy’s in many countries. This interfaith harlot will be the woman that rides the Beast of Revelation. She will help bring the Beast world system into power but when the Antichrist figure arrives on the scene he will turn on this harlot and burn her with fire, And that is the fate of Rick Warren’s Global Peace Plan. The Antichrist that arises will claim to be above anything called God and he will demand that everyone in the world worship him.

Seeing the foundation for globalism and interfaith religion is being set up now, you can be fairly certain that the rest will follow shortly.

Bono, Rick warren, Schuller, Bill Hybells, George Bush, Obama, and many others and most of the Emerging Church movement shape shifters all believe in pluralism and universalism while claiming to be Christians. Their Christianity is really religious dominionism. They want to use religion, government, media and the power elite to bring in total world governance and establishment of their idealist earthly utopia in the name of their higher power. What they will actually bring in will be the Antichrist figure who will claim to fulfill all the expectations of religions. The harlot woman is about to ride the Beast.

Bono, Universalism, and the Emerging Church? – CWN

On Relevant Magazine’s website, Tara Leigh Cobble gives an interesting report of what she says she witnessed at a Bono concert:

About five songs into their set, Bono stopped the show and strapped on a headband with writing on it. I stared up at the JumboTron to see that the handwritten lettering said: COEXIST.

Coexisting sounds like a great idea. I fully support the peaceful philanthropy that Bono has encouraged, and this seemed like another way that he was trying to spread the message.

Except, it started to feel like more than a political message. The “C” in “coexist” was the Islamic crescent moon, the “X” was the Star of David, and the “T” was the cross of Christ. Bono pointed at the symbols on his headband—first to the cross, then to the star, then to the crescent moon—and he began to repeat:

“Jesus, Jew, Mohammed—all true. Jesus, Jew, Mohammed—all true.”

He repeated the words like a mantra, and some people even began to repeat it with him. I suddenly wanted to crawl out of my skin.

While some at the concert dispute exactly what Bono said, media outlets have reported Bono wearing the Coexist logo.

http://www.newsobserver.com/105/story/379359.html

The Coexist logo is certainly about promoting the worldview of pluralism and universalism. Pluralism is the belief that all religions are equal, and universalism is the belief that all religions are true and everyone will be saved because all roads lead to God.

The worldwide acceptance of pluralism and universalism will eventually lead to a one-world religion as discussed in the Bible. However, it appears that not everyone is opposed to the Coexist message. Who am I talking about? Well, it happens to be the Emerging Church. In the words of Gomer Pile I say, “Surprise! Surprise!”

How incredibly undiscerning! Janet Folger is now teaching us Word of Faith Theology. She obviously is a believer in heretical Dominion theology. The link will give you more of my take on that theology.

Folger implies that Jesus lost the keys of the kingdom of heaven and had to die to get them back from Satan.
What heretical nonsense. Jesus never lost the keys of the kingdom of heaven. What kind of God would lose his keys? The keys Jesus gave the Church is authority in the spiritual realm in the spiritual kingdom of heaven. Even Jesus has not yet bound Satan on earth and taken authority on the earth because the timing of that is set by the Father alone. There are some still to be saved out of this world before judgment and the earthly kingdom is set up.

If what Folger said was true why did not the 12 apostles just take authority, bind Satan and set up the earthly kingdom instead of letting the world kill them. Gee, we Christians could of had total control of the earth for almost 2000 years if they only understood things the way Word Faith preachers do. Why do not two Christians anywhere just bind all the forces of Satan on earth and establish dominion? Why don’t Janet Folger just get together with Kenneth Copeland and try it? Why are you blaming us that your own prayers are not getting answered? Jesus said it would only take two if Jesus really meant what you imply.

We have no dominion on the earth because we are sinners and cannot administer this earth with justice. Dominion does not mean ownership, God owns the earth. After man sinned God put the earth under the administration of angels until the justice and sin problem is taken care of. (Satan just happens to be the chief angel in charge watching over this creation and he continually reports our unworthiness to have dominion on the earth.)

The keys of the kingdom of heaven do not give us ownership of a world living in sin it gives us standing in the kingdom of heaven as priests to carry out the will of the King. Obviously God’s will is not to bring a world of sinners into the kingdom that He will establish on the earth.

What title deed to the earth is Janet talking about? God does not give out title deeds to His creation. Where in scripture anywhere does it say that man was given a title deed to the earth? Man did not lose something he never had and Jesus did not die for any title deed. Jesus already had the title deed of everything as the Creator. Jesus died for our sins not for fake titles. And Jesus did not then give some abstract title deed to the planet back to man only to have him lose the title by default back to Satan by Christians not doing what they should have. That is what many Word Faith preachers teach. Then they say the Latter Rain, New Wave anointed elite (themselves) have to come and confront Satan and take the title of earth back again and bring in the physical kingdom on earth before Jesus can even come back. This Kingdom Now, Latter Rain, Manifest sons of Destiny Theology is totally absurd. It is not Christian doctrine. It is loony.

Jesus taught us to pray that God’s will be done on earth as it is in heaven and we are still praying for that because God has not brought in the Kingdom on earth yet like it is in heaven. It is like praying for the peace of Jerusalem, you should pray for that end but you cannot bring it in before God’s own timing. Only when Jesus comes back will God’s will be done on earth as it is in heaven and will there be true peace in Jerusalem.

Pslam 2:8 in context is talking about the Son of God, not Christians. He will give the nations to Jesus Christ but the timing is in the Fathers hands. Ripping it out of context as some promise to the betrothed bride that has not even been given gifts and awarded leadership positions and that are not yet fully prepared or fully completed in the body to be formally married to the King yet in the Father’s eyes is beyond presumption, it is arrogance. We will rule and reign with Jesus on earth when He is given David’s throne on earth and not before.

You asked what we have faith for? We have faith in the hope of Jesus fulfilling all His promises. We have faith that what we hear God tell us will be fulfilled, but we do not have faith to presume that your own wishes for the earth are from God. That is presumption.

Janet Folger said she would like to start by taking our own country back? She implies that Christians had dominion over America and lost it. She implies that the U.S. was a Christian nation. When was that? Do they not teach history in schools anymore? This nation had one wickedness after another throughout its history along with any good. Perhaps the best periods were right after major wars but that always is the case because wars remove many of the violent evil people from the earth. In any case, you cannot take a nation back for Christ that was never won for Christ. I do not even know a city or a town that was totally won for Christ. In order to do that you would have to oppose all who do not see things your theological way. The world already has a history of cities, nations and empires trying to take it for their version of Christianity. Was that good? Is that what you are suggesting for America. A Holy American Empire with Word of Faith preachers ruling on the throne? I think I do not want to be part of that America. Their Jesus is too much like the Jesus of Oprah. So you better get your burning stakes ready for me.

Occupy to Jesus comes means to live here in the world in whatever state you find yourself in. It does not mean to take it over. Remember Jesus promised the Church persecution in the world not a national or world utopia.

Your whole premises is flawed and why would you need us to help anyway. You and Copeland can do it all yourself. After all, you claim if two or more ask for anything in Jesus name it will be done for you. According to your own theology nothing can stop you. So stop whining and get started!

Ugh!

Stop whining and take dominion!

Of course, Jesus said (essentially), “No deal.” Satan was running the place, but when Jesus took the punishment our sins deserved on the cross and rose again, Jesus “got the keys back.” He reconciled us to himself and handed them over to us as he said in Matthew 16:19:

And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

With the keys Jesus gave us, we have authority, responsibility, access and ownership. Which brings us back to “Plan A” in the first chapter of Genesis where God told us to “have dominion over & every living thing that moves on the earth.”

With the title deed and the keys we’ve been given, we now can take dominion as was the original plan and see God’s will be done “on earth as it is in Heaven,” just like we’ve been praying in the Lord’s prayer all this time.

So, here’s my question. Just what do you have faith for? Psalm 2:8 says: “Ask of me, and I will give you the nations for your inheritance, and the ends of the earth for your possessions.” That sounds pretty good to me. I’d like to start with taking my country back. To “occupy” until He comes.

I’ve turned off the pundits to tap into the power. I want to know God’s heart enough to come into alignment with Him and start turning some keys and opening some doors. It’s time we take ownership and occupy the centers of influence and the areas of our culture Christians have vacated. It’s time we stop whining about how big the giants are and start coming back to “Plan A”: dominion. You have the keys. You have the title deed. What are you waiting for? Even the heaviest iron door doesn’t stand a chance.

Dave Daubenmire obviously too often listens to people who do not know what they are talking about.

I emailed Dave the last time he made this ridiculous assertion that the Church is sitting around doing nothing waiting for the Rapture. Obviously what I said to him did not sink in so now I will say it publicly since he makes his ridiculous assertion publicly.

Most of the Church could care less about the Rapture and it certainly is not obsessed with end-time prophecy. As I told Dave before almost nobody is teaching it anymore. The few churches that are, are probably the churches that are actually doing something spiritual in this nation.

We who believe in the Rapture and the soon return of Jesus Christ are not paralyzed by Last-Days madness anymore than any other Spirit filled believers are. You insult the Holy Spirit that works through all His people. You obviously listen too much to heretical dominionists who think the world is not Christianized because the church is failing. The world is failing by rejecting the teaching of the Church. That is not the fault of the Church. Most of the world is pagan because it does not accept the Gospel rather than not heard it.

Part of your problem is that you cannot discern between cultural Christians in this nation and the real Church. You act as if America was and is a Christian nation and all that the Christians have to do is get off their duff like the prodigal Son, return to God and take this nation back for Christ. The Church you imagine in America did not exist and it does not exist. The real Church in this nation has always been a minority and it has always been working for Christ.

You expect a “Christian” people that does not exist in America to suddenly see the light and act like Christians because you rail against them? You are not living in reality.

Dave, you have some wise things to tell Americans about what they need to do to save this nation. But, don’t confuse instructing Americans to return to Christian moral values with telling Americans that most of them are lazy Christians who need to repent from some end-time madness of looking for the Rapture. It is not happening. It is a false argument. It is counterproductive and it is stupid.

Most Americans are pagans that need to be saved but can’t be saved. Most reject the only message that can save them because they love their sins and want to believe a lie.

As for your “heal our land” statement out of Malachi. That promise in context was clearly made to physical Israel and applies to physical Israel. Last I heard we are America. There is no promise to Christians in other nations that if they humble themselves and pray that God will heal their pagan land. Try preaching that nonsense to the persecuted church in China. The promise of restoration is to the land of Israel. You like many just like to take promises to Israel out of context and make them yours but then your promises just become presumptions. America is not the promised land.

Dave, Get a grip!

Dave Daubenmire — The Prodigal Nation

What type of leadership burns our food?

The American Church is paralyzed by what Gary DeMar calls “Last-Days Madness.” In a nutshell, the modern American Church has become so obsessed with End-Time prophecy that Christians have ceased to be the “salt and light” that Christ has commanded us to be. Convinced that things are “only going to get worse” Christians have neglected Jesus’ mandate to “Occupy until I return and have instead turned the gates of authority over to the enemies of the cross.

“Worse is better!” I heard one Christian-radio pundit say. “As things get worse that means the return of the Lord is near.”

What hogwash! Is the Lord glorified by the multiplication of evil? “Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on Earth…” Did Jesus pray against His own will?

I don’t want to turn this into a theological discussion and get us all wrapped in the minutia of fig trees and famines. For the Lord’s sake, man, STAND UP AND FIGHT!

I have often wondered what America would look like if the Church believed in revival as much as it believed in the rapture.

Since John McCain kissed up to Rod Parsley even though Ron Parsley is one of the worst Word Faith heretics in existence. I thought I would link to a good article on the nonsense that Parsley preaches to his huge Church and TV audience.

I would not want anyone to think that McCain actually linked with true Christian conservatives by speaking at World Harvest Church in Ohio. The most that McCain would find there is Christian garnish that goes along with the Parsley. Not that McCain knows the difference between Christian teaching and tickle the ears garnish spreading of Word Faith teaching. McCain’s own retired paster said that McCain is not what he would consider a Christian that knows the scriptures. When your own pastor says that about you, you have not impressed him with your profound Christian knowledge.

Anyway I thought that McCain and Parsley were pretty strange birds to have in the same pot. Rod Parsley is a dominionist and John McCain obviously thinks that the U.S. should make the world a U.S. led Christian democracy. I wonder if John McCain will get all the religious dominionists together to try to bring on the world a hybrid universal religious democracy. If that is true expect some strange religious people in his government. People like Romney, Huckabee, Rick Warren, Bono, Bell, Joe Lieberman…. the Pope, Tom Cruz, Rosie etc. Anyway I digress to profound speculation, you might read about the Rod of Parsley yourself.

Rod Parsley

Rod Parsley is the pastor of the over 5000 seat World Harvest Church located in Columbus, Ohio.Parsley is a powerful motivational preacher who mixes truth with error. He is involved in word faith teachings and latter rain doctrines. He is one of the most popular Pentecostal TV preachers in America right now. He is able to release the anointing to people. He Cuts up prayer clothes to heal by laying hands on them and praying over them. He will even lay his whole body over a pile of letters as he believes he is literally transferring and releasing the “tangible anointing.” The prayer is answered due to the what he calls the corporate anointing. This is more like a transferable energy, since the anointing is the Holy Spirit who is God and is being used as a force. He tells us his faith is released toward us (faith is Godward not toward man), sometimes it is toward the letters or the cloths. He also states because he prayed every prayer is answered. This is not faith but at best overconfidence. Nowhere are we told in scripture that God will answer every prayer no matter how much faith one exhibits.

What do Ron Parsley and John McCain have in common? They both see grave danger in Islam to the world. Obviously for Ron Parsley the number one criteria for being a conservative is to be against Islam.

We have here a religious leader and a political leader that would be more than willing to lead a military fight against Islam all over the world. Sure, that might be what it ultimately comes down to anyway, but do you really want the U.S. to actually promote this war? Need I explain the impact that a world war would have on our civil liberties and standards of living?

Is the U.S. really a Christian nation created to defeat Islam like Ron Parsley claims? Are we really on such high moral ground that we can go into the lion’s den without getting burned?

McCain sees the U.S. as the leader of a globalist western new world order and Ron Parsley sees the U.S. as the moral leader of the world that will advance his own dominionist views. That is an extremely dangerous combination.

Well meaning but presumptuous Christians could actually start the very war that will brings in the Beast that will turn on them and devour them.

The Bible tells Christians to try to live in peace with all people. When we start using carnal weapons to advance the kingdom we will lose the battle. We are not going to convert Islam to Christianity by promoting bloody campaigns against Islam. All it will do is to bring even greater death and destruction all over the world. I assure you after the world has had enough of religious wars they will come after those who instigated it.

Remember, Revelation tells us the Beast world government will turn on the religious Harlot that rode it into power and burn her with fire.

I tend to find McCain to be dangerous to start with because with his worldview he may get us in more wars but I could be wrong. But, team him up with extreme religious reactionaries who think that they are the leaders of a movement to take the world for some presumptuous religious kingdom on earth and the combination is explosive.

The best thing we can do with Islam is to to step back and let the different factions within it destroy each other. We certainly are not going to physically concur Islam without creating a worse Beast.

McCain’s Spiritual Guide: Destroy Islam

Senator John McCain hailed as a spiritual adviser an Ohio megachurch pastor who has called upon Christians to wage a “war” against the “false religion” of Islam with the aim of destroying it.On February 26, McCain appeared at a campaign rally in Cincinnati with the Reverend Rod Parsley of the World Harvest Church of Columbus, a supersize Pentecostal institution that features a 5,200-seat sanctuary, a television studio (where Parsley tapes a weekly show), and a 122,000-square-foot Ministry Activity Center. That day, a week before the Ohio primary, Parsley praised the Republican presidential front-runner as a “strong, true, consistent conservative.”

Should the government make people do what God’s children should be doing out of their own good heart?

When government takes from those in the world who have, to give to others it fosters rebellion on one end and slothfulness on the other. In addition, government uses the redistribution of wealth to further its own worldly social agendas instead of the heavenly agenda that free will charity would bring.

Many of the problems in the world are because of blatant sin choices that people have made and that government often enables or even promotes. Treating  sin symptom problems when government helps spread the disease is an exercise in futility.

Tony Campolo thinks that you can can Christianize the world political systems. That has been tried before and it ends in tyranny. Jesus never suggested that the Church would Christianize the world. He clearly indicates that He will deal with evil on earth when he returns. After that he will rule the nations with a rod of Iron. Even in that dispensation of justice under the Messiah, if a man will not work he will not eat and if a man practices perversion he will be cut off from the land.

The whole concept that the world can be Christianized by joint government and faith based social actions does not originate in the Bible it originates with socialists who identify with Christianity but believe in secular humanism. They have more faith in sinful man to solve his problems then in a righteous God who already paid the price for all those who will believe, repent from there evil ways and do things led by His Spirit.

A Bible study on poverty

Sacrifice is not meant to be easy. Sacrifice is not painless. And personal sacrifice is clearly what Jesus is prescribing for His followers in Matthew 25 – and throughout the rest of the Bible, for that matter.Jesus doesn’t suggest spreading the pain and sacrifice by forcing non-believers to carry the load. Jesus doesn’t suggest reducing our own responsibility by foisting it upon the entire nation. Jesus doesn’t suggest stealing from the rich to give to the poor.

But that’s what Campolo’s version of enlightened Christian socialism is all about. He specifically says problems like poverty are too big for the individual and too big for the church. Only government can tackle them, he says. Gee, I wonder why Jesus forgot to mention that to us?

You will be hearing a lot more about Red Letter Christians so you ought to know what they believe. Essentially they are Marxists who find some red letters in the Bible to enforce how red they are. Many are people in the postmodern Emerging Church Movement.

The reason why they identify with Christianity is because they find some things taken out of context in the Bible that enforces their red philosophy. For example, they find a millennial worldly utopia in the Bible but ignore the scriptures that says there first has to be a physical return of Jesus to deal with the evil people on the earth. They love to quote the Golden Rule in the Bible but they continually break it by teaching people that sinful choices are to be celebrated even though those choices clearly enslave, sicken and bring death and disorder.

Red Letter Christians basically believe in a Christian hybrid theology where Christian Dominion Theology coexists with Universalism, paganism and theories of secular humanism. They believe that everyone is a child of God by whatever name you call Her. They think there are no evil people, there are only misguided ones.

Much of our government is run by people who think like Red Letter Christians and that is why our foreign policy is so Utopian. It explains why our State Department expects to make peace deals with terrorists and why they try to reason with clearly demon possessed leaders.

What are Red Letter Christians?

There’s a movement afoot to seduce evangelical Christians into anti-biblical, socialist, tyrannical politics – the kind currently energizing Barack Obama’s presidential campaign.I know this because I just read a new book by the self-proclaimed “godfather” of the movement – Tony Campolo. Yeah, you remember him as Bill Clinton’s spiritual guru.

The book is a manifesto of sorts called “Red Letter Christians.” Red Letter Christians are those, we learn in Campolo’s book, who heed the words spoken by Jesus and recorded in the New Testament – sometimes in red letters.

I’ll summarize the book for you: Christians have been paying enough attention to issues such as abortion, same-sex marriage, homosexual indoctrination in schools, etc. But, says Campolo, they need to start paying attention to what the Bible teaches to do about poverty, the environment, global warming and social injustice. And, in response, we have to empower government through political activism to shoulder our biblical responsibilities.

It’s a stunning treatise – breathtaking in either its naiveté or self-indulgent and willful corruption of clear biblical principles.

Just when you think it cannot get any nuttier in Christianity they prove you wrong. Now we are going to have a Shift in the Church and that Church Shift is going to establish God’s Kingdom on earth before Jesus even returns. Which is really nothing more than dominion theology. In order to establish this dominionism the mission of the Church will have to change from preaching the gospel to one of doing social works and this book sets the foundation for the world to become socialist along with the socialist pagans.

We have been warning the Church that this is where the postmodern heretics will take “Christianity”. After all, Christianity must fulfill the prophecy written about her for the last days. The bible talks about it in detail and it describes a whore. Why will she become a whore? Because she will compromise with all world religions in order to bring in her dominionism and she will sit over a corrupted world as a Queen who will ride the Beast to power. The Beast will then end up turning on her and burning her with fire. Rev 17:16

Notice some of the heretics already promoting the Shift. I predict that all the postmodern heretics will soon join the movement and then watch them all begin to turn on those who take the fundamental truths of the Bible literally. They will especially hate those who teach the soon return of Jesus Christ.

Just released on February 8th, this book is already #6 on Amazon’s best selling Christian book list (see Christian Post article). The book is Church Shift by pastor Sunday Adelaja of the 30,000-member Embassy of God Church in Ukraine, who says:“As
goes the Church, so goes America, and as goes America, so goes the
world… We want 10,000 churches in the U.S. and 100,000 churches
worldwide to SHIFT! This will be revolutionary!”

And what is this shift?It’s
about recovering out culture and bringing the lifestyle of the Kingdom
of God onto earth and into society by getting involved in the community.The Embassy of God is the largest charismatic church in Europe. Their website
states that God desires to reveal Himself to people and establish His
Kingdom on earth in order to change everybody’s life for the better.The Church Shift website says:

THE SHIFT IS HERE!CHURCHSHIFT
is helping to SHIFT the Church worldwide to equip the saints for
societal transformation and take back nations for the Kingdom of God.It
also mentions things like repossessing the earth back to God, equipping
church members to impact the seven spheres of society, and teaching
Kingdom values for societal transformation.

Church Shift is endorsed by T.D. Jakes, who says:Pastor
Sunday Adelaja is transforming his nation by unleashing the principles
of the Kingdom. I recommend that pastors and leaders of all kinds read
CHURCHSHIFT.

Full article

I came across this excellent article today about “The Roots and Fruits of the New Apostolic Reformation”, by Bob De Waay. It is about how the Latter Rain movement morphed into the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR).

Christians need to know the truth about these self apointed anointed and other Christians need to seperate from these leaders bringing them into Apostasy.

One thing I have found out for myself over the years is that when certain leaders claim Apostolic positions and special prophetic anontings from God they are always lying.

clipped from cicministry.org This article explores the idea of apostles in the church throughout church history. In it I will show that the restoration/Latter Rain idea that fuels the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is unbiblical and dangerous to the well-being of Christians who become part of it. First we will review how the early church understood apostles in church history. Then we will examine the Roman Catholic Church’s teaching about apostolic authority. From there we will examine the ideas of a 17th-century mystic given new life in the Latter Rain movement, and now the NAR. At a 1996 Fuller Seminary conference hosted by C. Peter Wagner, a movement that Wagner previously labeled “post-denominational” became the New Apostolic Reformation.  Besides Wagner himself is another person prominent in the movement—Bill Hamon—who is strongly endorsed by Wagner. Hamon is important, as we will see, because his ministry goes all the way back to the early 1950’s and began on the heels of the Latter Rain Movement.

FOXNews.com – Sex Scandal Rocks Atlanta-Area Megachurch – Local News News Articles National News US News
DECATUR, Ga. — The 80-year-old leader of a suburban Atlanta megachurch is at the center of a sex scandal of biblical dimensions: He slept with his brother’s wife and fathered a child by her.
Members of Archbishop Earl Paulk’s family stood at the pulpit of the Cathedral of the Holy Spirit at Chapel Hill Harvester Church a few Sundays ago and revealed the secret exposed by a recent court-ordered paternity test.
In truth, this is not the first — or even the second — sex scandal to engulf Paulk and the independent, charismatic church. But this time, he could be in trouble with the law for lying under oath about the affair.
The living proof of that lie is 34-year-old D.E. Paulk, who for years was known publicly as Earl Paulk’s nephew.

Another heretical “Word-of-Faith”, “Kingdom Now” leader bites the dust.
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/150-earl-paulk

When are people going to learn to follow the teachings of the Bible instead of these self anointed and often perverted men and women?