Satanic purpose of the Malachy last pope prophecy is deception

On February 13, 2013 · 94 Comments

After I heard the announcement of the pope’s resignation, I figured that people would suddenly become interested in the St. Malachy prophecy and that Tom Horn’s book “Petrus Romanus” would once again become the topic of discussion all over the end time forums.

Apparently that turns out to be the case because the traffic to this website just doubled mainly became of an article that I wrote on this topic. That article was a book review and critique of Tom Horn’s 2012 book. I titled that post, Petrus Romanus: an exercise in finding the future in the demonic. 

At the rate of views that post is now receiving, I expect that article to move into the top ten on the top 100 viewed posts on the sidebar shortly. It moved up about thirty positions in the last 24 hours. My post on Horn’s prior book called Apollyon Rising 2012 was almost out of the top 100 but that is now also rising slowly.

It is not my intent to recreate what I already wrote in those two articles so I really think that you will need to read them to find out why I am so critical of Horn’s handling of Bible prophecy. I think finding the future in the demonic was a very appropriate part of the title because that is what these researches of pagan writings actually do.

The issue here is the next pope and the St Malachy prophecy, so let me just quote part of what I already said in my Petrus Romanus article on the Petrus Romanus book and the 112th pope.

According to the prophecy, Rome will be destroyed in the time of the 112th pope and then the world will be judged. The 112th pope is identified as Petrus Romanus and that is the reason for the title in this book. We have the 111th pope ruling as I write, so the next pope is the key figure of the book.

Within this first section the authors makes the case that St. Malachy never wrote the prophecy. The authors suggest on more than one occasion that Nostradamus may have been the real author. Many have come to the conclusion that the first part of the prophecy is so accurate because it was history when it was written in the late 1500?s. There is much agreement on that point in academia.

The authors believe that the passages about the last 35 or 40 popes were written by a later prophet. These last 35 or so popes are identified with just a few Latin words for each pope. One quickly should be able to discern how subjective such a short indirect description like this really is. The obscure wording and short passage makes it easy for people to believe that a pope fits the prophecy. Obviously in history, some passages fit certain popes better than others.

Even so, apparently a segment of the voting Cardinals believe that this is a valid prophecy, so there is reason to believe that certain candidates have been promoted in the past because the candidate seemed to fit the prophecy. In other words, there is some self-fulfilling prophecy going on here. This is even more likely to be the case for the next and last pope on the list. I think the later part of the book abundantly makes that case.

There are enough Cardinals that believe the Malachy prophecy, that they will have some influence over the selection of the next pope. Logically, if this prophecy comes to pass as written, it means that Satan has been in control of the leadership of the Roman Church from its beginning until its end in the Great tribulation.

It probably should not shock anyone that Horn is now spinning what he said in his book. In his book he made it clear by quoting many other mystics that 2012 was the year for Petrus Romanus to come to power. That did not happen. Horn was clearly wrong. From what I hear on the various end time forums, I get the impression that near misses are okay with many that buy and sell Bible prophecy these days.

Apollyon Rising 2012 means just what the title suggests. According to Revelation, Apollyon is the king of the bottomless pit and he and his demons rise out of the pit in the midst of the last seven years. So does anyone that takes Bible prophecy as written actually believe that we are already in the great tribulation? Yet, those hosting the different prophecy forums never mention the obvious when interviewing Tom Horn. Horn’s past emphatic dating has been wrong and his timings simply do not fit what Bible prophecy says, but few that promote his writings seem to care.

With the pope resigning, Horn will now get even more air time on many end time forums as if he has been correct. I read an article by Jerome Coursi on WND that said that Horn predicted that the pope would resign. Coursi listed two page numbers in the book where he said Horn predicted that. I looked up those two pages in my own copy of the book and they say nothing of the sort.

Either Coursi has the wrong page numbers, or he has a different book edition than the one I have. Since I  got the book as soon as it was published in the spring of 2012 and Coursi says his is dated April 2012, different page numbers in different revisions do not seem likely. Maybe Coursi has a pre-published edition that was revised, who knows? Whatever the case, I do believe that somewhere in the 500+ page book Horn did mention the possibility of the pope resigning. Even so, so what? It does not take a Bible prophecy expert to see that possibility. Pope Benedict wrote that a pope should resign if he could no longer carry out his duties and he indicated that he would resign if he got to that point. And he indicated that long before Horn authored the book. Apparently Pope Benedict is just practicing what he has preached.

Anyone with any common sense can predict that this pope would die or have to resign within a few years. This is a man with a heart condition and a man who had strokes. People with his health conditions seldom live into their 90′s and Pope Benedict is now 85. Therefore, getting the obvious right in a book does not mean that the countless conjectures therein will also be fulfilled.

Horn also implied in his book that the prophecies of the early popes were written in hindsight and that Malachy did not write the future prophecies that have been attributed to him either. He mentioned the possibly that it was written by Nostradamus. However, J. Coursi is saying something else in his WND article, perhaps he misunderstood Horn or Horn is changing his tune about what was actually said in the book.

Anyway, that is enough from me about Horn’s positions and Coursi’s article on WND. The knowledge of the prophecies on the popes did not originate with any modern author and you can read my critiques of Horn’s books in the links above. It also seems to me that some commentaries on WND are specifically designed to sell books and recordings. So you might consider the source before you buy into certain things that are being sold there.

The issue in this post is the prophecy that has been attributed to St. Malachy so let us get back to that prophecy. I have heard some read a lot into that prophecy that it does not say, so here is a translated complete prophecy of the 112th and claimed last pope.

In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End.

The official Roman Catholic Church position is that it is not a valid prophecy, but many Cardinals believe that it is, and it could influence their votes and help elect someone seemingly fitting the prophecy. If that is actually the case, the influence of the prophecy can make the prophecy of the pope’s become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I do not buy into Catholic mystics. I have read all kinds of predictions from Catholic mystics that have never come true and I can’t find any that clearly predicted any happening that fit our modern times. Satan is not to know the future, other than what is written and even that he cannot fully understand or he would never have crucified the Son of God that sealed his defeat. Only God can tell the future and He said that the secret things belong to Him. Nobody is going to find the true future by studying mystics or false prophets.

People buying into this type of private revelation are going to be misled. Here is my thesis on the prophecy of the popes for what it is worth: (I certainly could be wrong).

Someone will be elected pope that some somehow will identify as Peter the Roman. We will enter a period of world war. At the very least it will probably involve Islam against the pseudo Christian West, Israel, Buddhists ,and Hindus. Many places will probably be destroyed and Marian apparitions will lead many people to believe that the only hope for world survival is pluralist religious unity. The four horsemen may be riding during these wars, but the world had not actually entered the final seven years for Israel at this point. These horsemen wars are wars caused by people under Satanic influence, they are not acts of God.

Because of the great suffering that these religious wars will bring, people will be more than willing to accept religious unification under the great Harlot. As the wars are brokered, people on earth will be hoping for some universal savior to arrive to bring them into the new age. However, the person they actually will accept will turn out to be the Antichrist and he will turn on the Harlot and destroy her.

Only after Satan is cast out of the heavens and the Son of Perdition arrives out of the pit will the end actually come. That is the time when the wrath of God is poured out on earth through judgments that are carried out by angels. These judgments are found in Revelation and they are named the Trumpet and Bowl judgments.

There could easily be two decades left for all this to play out. So yes, I do think this prophecy of a last pope is significant. I think it will lead people to submit to the religious harlot. In other words, I think the satanic purpose of the last pope prophecy is a deception.

People on earth will go through a satanic counterfeit tribulation where people first war against each other and then make peace under a religious Harlot tyrant that will be headed by the next pope or someone who will replace the next pope under a more universal name. However, the end time judgments of God carried out by angels will still be on the near horizon and this will happen in God’s sovereign timing and not within the Satanic led false tribulation timing.


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 Don Koenig founded www.thepropheticyears.com website in 1999 after almost thirty years of independent study on the Bible and learning from many astute teachers within Christendom. Don created his website to write about Bible prophecy, biblical discernment and his Christian worldviews. Don wrote a free Revelation commentary ebook in 2004 named "The Revelation of Jesus Christ Through The Ages". The World and Church and Bible Prophecy section of this website was started in 2007.


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94 Responses to “Satanic purpose of the Malachy last pope prophecy is deception”

  1. ~DavidNo Gravatar says:

    Well Don,

    I was among those who thought that there was some sort of validity to the Pope prophecy, however, that was from my limited knowledge on the subject.

    After reading this article, it sounds to me like it is most likely just another clever satanic deception.

    This is why I come to your blog Don, you give deep insight on things I don’t know enough about.

  2. Ohio JulieNo Gravatar says:

    All three of these articles this morning are appropriate. I have faith true Christians will recognize the signs for what they are and who has sent them. I pray those that are searching will read your words and discern their truth. I hope that the faithful will continue to understand it is the personal relationship which keeps us in love and eternal life and it is the impersonal faith in a religion or gov’t that will bring this world to ruin. It is the sin of putting the dollar over all else that has brought our economies to ruin and we know who is master of that scheme. The grand deceiver and destroyer is preparing his way to take his reign on earth but we know how it ends and who wins in the end. Life will never be the same for Americans again and all that we know and believe is being eroded. Now more than ever is the time to side with God, accept Jesus and know that the millennial rule will be our time again.

  3. Ohio JulieNo Gravatar says:

    Goodness David, your word fascination proves it was your mind that was attentive and not your heart in Christ. We are watching for signs of the times and I believe this is one but not of God’s making. He has allowed the Catholic church to run amok according to His plan. Go figure. I can’t but we know it is not His doctrine. We, including you, who are not part of it would not be human if not fascinated by an entity that is, in keeping with current thought, “too big to fail” yet we know where it will end up. Don has a set of worldly things he watches as well to make his timeline. He surely has a better handle on that than I but that doesn’t keep me from watching different signs that I understand and research. I feel blessed to have a mind that is fascinated about the world and a heart that has been tapped by God for faith in Jesus as savior and that I approach the world in this way, in it but not of it. Please celebrate your curiosity and keep your eyes open and your heart in Christ close. Don will help us keep all that straight. The Holy Spirit moves in really cool ways. We have to be open.

  4. Jen G.No Gravatar says:

    I find your theory on the prophecy of popes very interesting Don.

  5. William L.No Gravatar says:

    I believe that the “Malachy prophecy” is of a demonic source or not from a Christian perspective.
    One reason is that in the statement it says dreadful judge. A God inspired prophecy would not say dreadful judge. In the bible, The Lord is called a righteous, just, faithful and true judge. I would also call him a wonderful judge. From a Christian source and perspective.
    Psalm 96:13. 2 Timothy 4:8. Revelation 19:11.John 5:24 and others.

  6. jackNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve read the book. Ive met Tom Horn twice and Chris Putnam once. Tom is a researcher and is “on to” the demonically controled church of Rome. His book was well researched and it exposeses the Catholic Church……they are up to something with this Pope leaving. Is the Prophecy of the Popes demonic? Absolutely…..but many in the church believe it. It’s not that Tom or we readers do…..but the fact the satan is using the catholic church gives us clues to be watching as to the nearness of the tribulation.

    By the way I plan on buying his next book too!

    Tribulation is 20 years off? Hmmm, we will see about that!

  7. stefanNo Gravatar says:

    Well said. Self fullfilling prophecy is easy. To get people talking more about a catholic article that to be ready for christ is a great deception. I would be more surprised if the next pope was not Peter the roman. Test the spirits . I have noticed christian want to add to end time bible passages with other stuff to make it seem like it is being fulfilled.

    I believe we can be ready and know the signs . Of course. But it doesn’t mean the tribulation is close by our standards. It could even be another thousand years. Or 100. Or a month.

    So lets be ready for Christ and not add to the book of revelation. Which by the way God warns us NOT to do. But enjoy the blessing it gives.

  8. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Hi Jack,

    I did not say the tribulation is 20 years off. I think the second coming is about 20 years off. The tribulation is before that.

    Yes, there was a lot of good research done for that book, I acknowledged that in my critique on their last book. I still do not think anyone can find the timing of the Antichrist by researching the demonic. He can not come until the restrainer is taken out of the way and that is in God’s timing.

    I think the next book is going to be on how the alien connection ties into all this.

  9. Steve in SCNo Gravatar says:

    Don,
    I definitely was one of those who searched your website for the prophecy ha. Anyways, I too felt that many could be reading too much into it. Everyone seemed ready to name the successor to Benedict as “The” false prophet. While this indeed may turn out to be true, I find the passage too vague to specifically indicate this. For instance maybe the church as we know it is disbanded and the harlot is put in place during the new pope’s reign. Which in turn causes this new pope to flee Rome, all the while feeding his flock? Even so, this is very interesting and I am sure it will be of some significance regarding the new world harlot religion. Thanks

  10. dave1543No Gravatar says:

    I think this Peter Romanus, Catholic mystic stuff is like the Mayan calendar hoax.

  11. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Steve,

    Other ancient Catholic mystics have said that the Pope will flee Rome during a time of great chastisement on earth.

    I find it difficult to believe that the Pope heads the Harlot and is the False prophet as well. Bible prophecy says the false prophet makes people on earth worship the first Beast, but it also say that the ten kings that give their power to the first Beast hate the Harlot and burn her with fire. So how then is the head of the world religious Harlot also the False Prophet? Horn’s book suggests that the next pope is the false prophet. That could be true, but then the pope is not the leader of the Harlot. We also need to keep in mind that the False Prophet rises out of the Land, so it is very likely that the False Prophet is a Jew.

    Having said that, I suppose it is possible that a Pope could go into exile in Jerusalem and then turn against all prior world religions and promotes the first Beast that rises out of the Gentile nations (the sea).

  12. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Dave,

    Certainly extra Biblical stuff will not prove out to be reliable but Catholics and others believe this stuff so it could make them open to a lot of deception.

  13. Hello Don,

    I liked your synopsis. There is certainly something going on, but of the satanic deception variety. Which makes sense. The closer we get to the return of Christ, the more of these things were foretold to happen. Certainly all part of the plan to distract and confuse.

    Very fascinating stuff. Glad your still posting. :)

    Rod in Oregon

  14. TsnowNo Gravatar says:

    The resignation of the Pope has le the Catholic church vulnerable, it has left a vacuum of leadership. Russian Orthodoxy ( Moscow Patriarchate) has been pushing for a reunification of the schism from 1054 when the Two churches split.

    This unification however will lead to the final False Church of the Antichrist. A false church that will deceive many & that will call for worshipping the IMAGE (EIKON/ICON) of the beast.

    There will be a war first then everyone will want to unite for the good of mankind. Muslims, Jews, Christians will all be able to come together in their common belief in “God” but Jesus will not be put at the top where He belongs. This is the great deception that could deceive the very elect IF it were possible.

    My own belief, and I could be wrong, is that Vladimir Putin is the Antichrist & Patriarch Kirill is his False Prophet.

  15. Ohio JulieNo Gravatar says:

    Wow Don, you were right. It’s great to see Christians searching for the proper perspective on this event and I am thankful there is a place to find it. It is so important to work through what is human and what is divine and it’s tough. We need scholars that can direct us towards the difference.

  16. DonNo Gravatar says:

    It seems that Tsnow has some strange Catholic anti-Russian views. Sorry.. it does not fit what Bible prophecy says and it just is not going to work out that way.

  17. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks Julie, but do you want to explain exactly what you think I was right about? I do not have a clue what you are referring to.

  18. jakeNo Gravatar says:

    don, the current pope said in one of his articles that Catholicism is the only true church and that Christianity doesn’t’ fit in. And also there is an arrest warrant for the pope now coming out of europe.

  19. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Jake,

    The Roman Catholic Church has always taken the position that it is the only true Church. Lately they acknowledge that there are what they call “separated brethren” in other religions. However, according to Catholic doctrine people that do not obey the Church commit moral sin and will go to Hell so they really are talking out of both sides of their mouth.

    I know of nothing about an arrest warrant for the pope. The Vatican is a sovereign state and it will not recognize any arrest warrant on the Pope anyway.

  20. Ohio JulieNo Gravatar says:

    David and I both expressed our fascination with the possibilities and your timeline with the resignation of the Pope on one of your earlier posts. You let us know you were going to write a new article to reiterate your ideas because you knew people would be looking for answers about it, Christian perspective and that is what you have done. There have been different ideas and comments with it. Good looking out. I hope people read both earlier articles and really think about them.

  21. CraigNo Gravatar says:

    While we’re picking apart this bogus illegitimate prophecy, I got a few chuckles out of several aspects of it (someone already mentioned “dreadful” – boy that’s funny).

    Another anomaly that makes me crack up is “The End”. “The End?” What end? I thought we already had “The End” back in Revelation. It’s kind of like “alpha to the omega and to the [other] omega” (shouldn’t one ‘omega’ do?). So, if they (the Catholic deceptionists) don’t respect the truthful “end” (‘er, “shall not add or take away from this prophecy”), what makes them think anyone should respect their “new [and bogus] end?”

    How did this Malachy dude get canonized if his so called prophecy is not “official”?

    Well, at least the Harlot is properly equated to the “Roman Church”, although I wouldn’t call it, uhumm, “holy” (universal != separate).

    I think they get their prophecies from the same outfits making up the study notebooks these days.

    Seems like the selection process for the new pope should reach out to Oprah and Dr. Phil.

  22. AaronNo Gravatar says:

    Don that’s very interesting about the devil not being able to see the future, but he does knew his time is short!

    The fact that on both itv news and aljazera and know doubt other news channels, they where interviewing the black cardinal Peter and asking him if he would like to be pope,
    That is very telling,
    If this is orchestrated, like picking John Paul because he was born on an ellipse, then it also means they killed him knowing that one was coming up!
    That’s dark and evil, but what off he had died to soon it would have spoilt there plans !
    Whatever this is, we must keep our eyes on the Catholic church.

    On another topic Don. There are 4 blood moons and one solar ellipse on 2014 and 2015 all taking place on important Jewish feast days, I suspect this is the psalm 83 war or even the start of the tribulation. The last moon is on the feast of trumpets , They have two horns left and right. The right is called the last trump! Interesting stuff.

  23. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Aaron.

    Who says Satan knows that his time is short? I rather doubt that. The only mention of that in the Bible is in Revelation 12 and that is after there is war in Heaven and Satan and his angels are booted out of the Heavens unto the earth and for the first time they are confined to the earth. We are not there yet.

    I do not think the claimed 4 blood moons and the solar ellipse within 2014 and 2015 have prophetic significance. That is just more end time hype, we seem to get new hype every few years.

    Blood moons are in the eye of the beholder. The real meaning of a blood moon is the first full moon after the harvest moon. They are not really blood moons in the sense that Joel was talking about and neither are moons that rise with a red shade, I see them all the time. The same goes for solar ellipses, we have them quite often.

    I guess The start of a false tribulation period is possible in that 2014-2015 time frame by the wars of men but I doubt that this is What Joel was describing before the Day of the Lord. More likely he was describing atmosphere disturbances that probably come from a body approaching the earth and related volcanic activity from the gravitational effects. Related bible prophecy seems to bear that out.

    Since the feast of trumpets ends the new moon, I fail to see how it could be very visible unless we are talking about a blood red earth shadow which is very very dim.

  24. Ohio JulieNo Gravatar says:

    Hi Don, I guess I am a bit confused. I would think that Satan knows his time is short as we know his end is coming, at least for a Biblical day until he is let loose and then forever destroyed. He knows the Bible and while he it trying to cut God’s gains in souls surely he understands his glory is short-lived. Perhaps I am not understanding something. Could you please explain? Thanks.

  25. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Julie,

    Satan rules this earth by the authority given to him by God. Nobody has taken that position from him yet. In fact, Satan offered Jesus the rule of the world. Jesus defeated Satan at the cross but the setting up of the Kingdom is in the Father’s timing. Those born from above are spiritually waring against Satan and that is why Satan’s kingdom plans on earth have been defeated for 2000 years and that is why the Son of Perdition cannot come until he that hinders is taken out of the way. One day Jesus will come and take the rule of the earth from Satan but that all happens in the Father’s timing. The reason for the delay is so that all humans that the Father gives Jesus can be saved and rule and reign with Him over His kingdom.

    Remember, Jesus comes as a thief for His Church so the strong man (Satan) does not have a clue when He is coming and robbing from his estate. After the fact, Satan then probably argues before the Father than the taking of the Church was a wrongful act. However, the Father rules against Satan and casts Him out of His presence. I think the story can be put together by correlating Daniel 7 and Revelation 12, along with the similitude given to us in 2 Kings 11 where Athaliah is a type of Satan and Joash is a type of Jesus.

    Satan, does not acknowledge the Son, He thinks he is the rightful ruler of the earth. That is why he is taken by surprise when the Ancient of days rules against him and tells his servants to casts Him out of His presence unto the earth and then gives the rule of the world to Jesus. Then Satan knows that he only has a short time to destroy the inheritance of the new coming King.

    Rev 12: 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
    8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
    9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
    10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
    11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
    12 ¶ Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

    Dan 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
    23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
    24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
    25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
    26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
    27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

    2 Ki 11:1 ¶ And when Athaliah the mother of Ahaziah saw that her son was dead, she arose and destroyed all the seed royal.
    2 But Jehosheba, the daughter of king Joram, sister of Ahaziah, took Joash the son of Ahaziah, and stole him from among the king’s sons which were slain; and they hid him, even him and his nurse, in the bedchamber from Athaliah, so that he was not slain.
    3 And he was with her hid in the house of the LORD six years. And Athaliah did reign over the land.
    4 ¶ And the seventh year Jehoiada sent and fetched the rulers over hundreds, with the captains and the guard, and brought them to him into the house of the LORD, and made a covenant with them, and took an oath of them in the house of the LORD, and shewed them the king’s son.
    5 And he commanded them, saying, This is the thing that ye shall do; A third part of you that enter in on the sabbath shall even be keepers of the watch of the king’s house;
    6 And a third part shall be at the gate of Sur; and a third part at the gate behind the guard: so shall ye keep the watch of the house, that it be not broken down.
    7 And two parts of all you that go forth on the sabbath, even they shall keep the watch of the house of the LORD about the king.
    8 And ye shall compass the king round about, every man with his weapons in his hand: and he that cometh within the ranges, let him be slain: and be ye with the king as he goeth out and as he cometh in.
    9 And the captains over the hundreds did according to all things that Jehoiada the priest commanded: and they took every man his men that were to come in on the sabbath, with them that should go out on the sabbath, and came to Jehoiada the priest.
    10 And to the captains over hundreds did the priest give king David’s spears and shields, that were in the temple of the LORD.
    11 And the guard stood, every man with his weapons in his hand, round about the king, from the right corner of the temple to the left corner of the temple, along by the altar and the temple.
    12 And he brought forth the king’s son, and put the crown upon him, and gave him the testimony; and they made him king, and anointed him; and they clapped their hands, and said, God save the king.
    13 ¶ And when Athaliah heard the noise of the guard and of the people, she came to the people into the temple of the LORD.
    14 And when she looked, behold, the king stood by a pillar, as the manner was, and the princes and the trumpeters by the king, and all the people of the land rejoiced, and blew with trumpets: and Athaliah rent her clothes, and cried, Treason, Treason.
    15 But Jehoiada the priest commanded the captains of the hundreds, the officers of the host, and said unto them, Have her forth without the ranges: and him that followeth her kill with the sword. For the priest had said, Let her not be slain in the house of the LORD.
    16 And they laid hands on her; and she went by the way by the which the horses came into the king’s house: and there was she slain.
    17 ¶ And Jehoiada made a covenant between the LORD and the king and the people, that they should be the LORD’S people; between the king also and the people.
    18 And all the people of the land went into the house of Baal, and brake it down; his altars and his images brake they in pieces thoroughly, and slew Mattan the priest of Baal before the altars. And the priest appointed officers over the house of the LORD.
    19 And he took the rulers over hundreds, and the captains, and the guard, and all the people of the land; and they brought down the king from the house of the LORD, and came by the way of the gate of the guard to the king’s house. And he sat on the throne of the kings.
    20 And all the people of the land rejoiced, and the city was in quiet: and they slew Athaliah with the sword beside the king’s house.

  26. Wayne YoungNo Gravatar says:

    This is interesting stuff; however I feel without the Holy Spirit to guide us we would all be lost. In all the books I have read by a number of Christian authors I find that my sole guide is still God’s word, which I blieve has been kept pure to this very day, if it has not then I believe everything that is argualbe in scripture is up for anyone’s interpretation. I certainly know that what we see unfolding before us are definately signs of the end times, Wrong is deemed right, and the reverse. My only prayer is that if asked I will be given the power by him to die on that hill.

  27. Don FrittsNo Gravatar says:

    Hi Don , I have not made any comments for awhile because unless I can really contribute sometning useful I should just be quite and try to learn. I have views I refrain from sharing because I may be WRONG and have no desire to mislead anyone. It is my opinion that the False Prophet in Revelation is The Pope and the Anti- Christ is a Syrian Jew based on my understanding of Daniel 11 . I find it interseting that Chuck Missler is promoting Tom Horn’s book on his website. Thanks for providing your comments on the subject. I agree with you that some of the stuff on Jerome Corsi’s website seems to be for the purpose of selling books and videos. People need to understand God isn’t selling anything , He never has. BLESSINGS to YOU and STAY SAFE.

  28. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Hi Don,

    Actually, I was talking about WND which is run by Joe Farah. Corsi It just one contributor on that website. Missler seems to buy into anything sensational these days.

  29. SusanNo Gravatar says:

    I tried to read Tom Horn’s book about the popes but died of boredom about a third of the way through. There is always a “hype” about his discoveries prior to his books coming out which I find a little suspiscious. (I really don’t doubt his intentions or Christianity though).

    I, too, think Malachi’s prophecies may have been manipulated by the conclave to fit the popes into the prophecies, (many of which are pretty vague). But the really interesting Malachi, in my opinion, is Malachi Martin, the former priest who exposed the enthronement of Satan which occurred in 1963 at the Vatican. He has some great interviews out there and he describes what happened in his “fiction” books like “Windswept House”.

    I have never been a Catholic so I find his stuff very eye opening. My discernment tells me the Catholic church is very wicked – for a lot of reasons – though, of course, not all Catholics are wicked, just deceived.

    I do think the Catholic church is going to play a major role in ushering in the New World Order and perhaps the great alien deception, for a couple of reasons:
    1) They have said they want a NWO and 2) The high powered telescope they own, called Lucifer and the statements which the Vatican has made concerning alien life.

    Susan

  30. DougNo Gravatar says:

    Hi Don,

    Your quote: “Missler seems to buy into anything sensational these days.”

    I think this has been his style for much of his “teaching “career, which is why his “rabbit trails” have always been so fascinating, and is also why his signature verse, Acts 17:11 is so important to take seriously. That said, I believe he is more often correct than incorrect. I have not read Tom Horn’s book. I’ve listened to exactly one interview with Mr. Horn, and I thought at the time that his logic and statical analysis sounded a little fuzzy. Even if the next Pope takes on some permutation of the name “Peter”, I’m not going to jump on the bandwagon . . . yet.

  31. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Doug,

    I agree that Missler has always been interesting and I am aware that he tells people to check what he says. However, that seems to be his blanket excuse for not doing his own homework. Sometimes when I check him out with scripture what he said just does not check out with scripture. I am at the point that I cannot even quote what he says to others unless I do check him out first. And none of this explains his buying into hidden Bible codes, Muslim Antichrist theories and the pagan derived research of Tom Horn.

    I am not as much concern about this prophecy on the Popes as I am about all the other demonic based information that Horn brings in to try to support his conjecture and his dating. People forget that much of what he said in this books was focused on 2012. Much of the stuff that he brought in just does not fit 2013 unless you think we are already in the great tribulation.

  32. Ohio JulieNo Gravatar says:

    Wow, from milk-toast right to the meat. I understand now. Satan is running things from heaven but is not allowed to win in all he does. He is so busy keeping earth running his way and he is not any of those things God is, omniscient, omnipotent etc so he doesn’t see the future and since he is not on earth he doesn’t read the Bible. All he can do is make war with people who are in his way, like Americans and the constitution and Christians. If we turn away from the tapping by the holy spirit then we go along with satan’s plan because it is in the hearts of evil rulers and makes man supreme and it is turning away from God and therefore eternal damnation. Satan doesn’t know what’s coming then. I believe you and I am digesting that. Just understand I still find it hard to believe that Satan is unaware of the whole plan but I’ve never figured out why he would fight so hard when he knows he loses. Misery loves company but that surely is a pea brain approach to this subject. 2Kings is a really good example and one I don’t remember reading. Thanks for that. Thanks for the whole explanation. I guess it would be OK to say that satan wants to be bigger than God here on earth and he really believes he can achieve that.

  33. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Julie,

    It is not quite like that. Think if it this way.

    Satan knows perfectly well that he is the greatest created being in creation. Satan sees this other Son that came into creation as a lesser spiritual being. He does not see this Son is actually Almighty God. Therefore he does not believe that Jesus is greater then He is. The real battle is between the created son and the angels that followed him and the only begotten Son and the angels that followed Him. The begotten Son came into His own creation after Satan fell into sin because of his sin of pride and the Son came into His creation to destroy the works of the Devil and to redeem creation. So Satan does not understand that He will be defeated. It is not that He does not know the author of the Bible or know what the Bible says. Of course he does. The issue is that He does not see the Word as being almighty God and he does not see Jesus as being able to accomplish what He inspired. Therefore, the human that Satan incarnates will claim to be greater than anything called God and war against Jesus.

  34. SusanNo Gravatar says:

    Wow, are you saying demons recognized Christ………..but Satan does not?

  35. Satan has been around a long time and his understanding of Scripture would be better than any man alive, therefore his knowledge of eschatology would include his own destruction. He must – he will try to prevent that.
    During the Church age he has been hindered from producing his ace trump, but when he who hinders is taken out of the way Satan will play that trump card in an attempt to keep Israel from fulfilling the prerequisite for Christ’s return to the earth, a prerequisite Christ himself stated in Matthew 23:39, “Ye shall not see me henceforth, TILL YE SHALL SAY, Blessed [is] he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”
    Today Satan is hindered, but the tribulation period will be his last chance and final attempt to destroy Israel so that they cannot say “blessed is he who cometh in the name of the Lord”.

    I do not claim this as an original thought, it is the main thrust of Arnold Fruchtembaum’s teaching on the matter and I would recommend his book, “The Footsteps of the Messiah” for a well rounded explanation of end times as they pertain to the Jewish people.

  36. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Susan,

    Angels are referred as sons of God in scripture and demons are not angels. Satan believes he also is the son of the most high God. In fact, he thinks that he is perfect and scripture says that he was created perfect. However, like I said, he was a created son. Jesus is the only begotten Son, begotten not made, because He is the only Son that always coexisted with the Father.

    Anyway, this post is now getting off topic.

  37. Ohio JulieNo Gravatar says:

    I am nearly embarrassed at how I’ve pushed you to dig for this simple explanation. This is the root I have been missing. Satan sees dominion as being a force on human beings whereas God has set about to work through his principles of blood of the lamb, free will and salvation not to have dominion over us but to offer us eternal salvation. It is his glory to develop us and we in kind respond to him with praise and worship. Satan fell because he wanted dominion and God has worked through winning our hearts because he in fact has dominion, alpha and omega. Please don’t laugh, intellectually understanding something and then spiritually understanding something has been two different journey’s for me. If Satan had not fallen he would be working with God, as we see Christ was given to us, but he fell and had to be replaced for God’s plan for us. Satan doesn’t know the hour of his demise because he doesn’t think that the word is for him, just humans which he is bigger than and then, no one, including Christ knows the day or hour. 2 Kings was a shazam moment for me. The word dominion is not a common one in our language. It’s connotation is “Biblical” but rule and lord over is something I understand. The media is fighting for dominion of our minds and thought processes. It is one sided. It’s not about being responsible for our growth and development and our health and etc, it is strictly about rule and control. The government would like to have dominion over everything, like Satan, taking away our God given rights and replacing them. Lord have mercy Don, this is so much deeper for me now. Ephesians 6:12 is much deeper for me now. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Not only do I have salvation but the jiggies are subsiding a bit.

  38. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Julie,

    Getting back to the post topic, it is not just the satanic elite that rise into power in world governments that want total control, it is also the satanic elite that rise to the top in world religions.

  39. Ohio JulieNo Gravatar says:

    I think Dominion is the key here for me. My protestant friends want people to be saved and offer friendship whereas Catholic acquaintances are determined that their religion is the one true religion and they want conversion. None at the end of a sword yet but when I compare them with Islam/ submission my stomach is uneasy. There has been a deal signed with Israel that the Pope will have a throne placed in the place of the last supper, David’s tomb. I see the crusades starting all over again. The world council of churches passed a statement about divestment in Israel to force them to give up land to the Palestinians when the Bible clearly says that is not the the thing to do. Dominion. God has a plan, has laid it out for us and here are world governments and religions and world religious “gov’ts” out of step. I appreciate your patience with me as I find myself wanting a deeper understanding of a firm foundation and what is going on in the world which matches the strength of my belief and faith. It has become more important to me than anything else.

  40. Bruce WayneNo Gravatar says:

    I find this whole discussion interesting. As an ex-catholic I understand things about catholicism those who were not can’t.

    Sexual immorality is rampent in the catholic church and they want a NWO with a one world religion subjugated under the Pope. Rome works with the the UN, the Club of Rome, the Illuminati other NWO organizations.

    Pope John Paul II had audiences with representatives of every known religion including witch doctors and other assorted satanic religions and his funeral had the biggest gatherings of world leaders and heads of state including religions than anyone in history.

    Both this current Pope and John Paul II have said all religions are traveling roads to the same God which is out-right unbiblical and absurd. Yet no one calls them out on that because they don’t really believe in the truths of the Bible.

    Even well known protestant leaders have been working for unity thru ecumenism and singing the praises of the catholic church including Billy Graham and other televangelists.

    I do know that many of the Popes and Cardinals are Free-Masons and are involved in all kinds of Satanic rituals. They time things accordingly too. Isn’t it possible that the black cardinal will become Pope and could very well claim Obama is the uniter, The One?!

    It isn’t any coincedence that the selection committe of cardinals are not going to wait till April to elect the next Pope since this Pope resigned. They want one in office before March 17, 2013.

    Is it only a coincidence too that Obama is visiting Israel for the 1st time as POTUS on March 20, 2013. Hasn’t much of the adoring world called him god at one point or another?

    I think things are pointing to time as running out shortly and asteroids, comets and other signs in the heavens and on the earth are bearing this out along with current events that are taking place.

    This is an excellent expose of the catholic church

    A Woman Rides the Beast – official version from The Berean Call .
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUFhGQ4Do9s

    I can’t be sure about the following Biblical teaching but if the person is correct, then March 22, 2013 is a significant date and it’s fast approaching and kind of makes you wonder about the things happening before our eyes.

    Daniel’s Timeline Reveals the Second Coming of the Lord After Tribulation 2016 .
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVwnDSukmvM

  41. AnnaNo Gravatar says:

    Don,
    You mentioned a “false tribulation” a couple of times. I’ve never heard the term used and I am a little confused. Do you mean a time when some will be deceived into thinking they have entered the tribulation, however, the rapture will not have yet taken place, etc. Something like what the Thessalonians thought they were experiencing? Will real believers think they are in the tribulation? Please clarify if you have the time. Thanks.

  42. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Batman,

    I disagree with some of what your said so let’s just leave it at that.

  43. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Anna,

    I don’t know about the timing of the Rapture because nobody knows when the Church will be taken. I think people on earth will go through the four horse men prophecies and the persecution at the fifth seal and think that they have gone through the tribulation. However, these actually are acts of men and are not part of the wrath of the Lamb and the wrath of God that are carried out by angels and that occur in the last seven years that is left for Israel to fulfill.

  44. I have read the Malachy prophecies as well as numerous New Age rationalizations veiled as “channeled” messages by a plethora of demonic entities regarding the removal of certain people who don’t quite seem to fit in on Earth anymore i.e. a false rapture, as wsell as other “revealed mysteries”. Obviously, they are all full of bullsnot in comparison to true Biblical prophecies, but the damnable factor of all of them is that, just like in the Garden of Eden, there is Always at least a shred that either rings true or comes to pass. I dont know if I completely agree that Satan cant see at least some of what is going to happen, because why else would there be so much effort on his part to confuse and divide people regarding what actually IS going to take place in the near future? Dont get me wrong…Jesus IS Lord, DOES conquer, and Satan Will be thrown in the Lake Of Fire….I just personally believe that he does see SOME things, just not the things that really matter…the timing of the Rapture, his toasty demise, etc. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong…not trying to be feisty, its just an opinion.

  45. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Michael Angelo,

    Satan obviously knows what he is trying to accomplish on earth but what he is allowed to accomplished is another matter. He has been hindered for 2000 years. let me put it this way. I know what I want to do and what I will try to accomplish and some of it will get accomplished but that does not mean that I know the future.

  46. Roger that…that was a really good explanation…Thank you, because I never thought of it that way.

  47. Ohio JulieNo Gravatar says:

    Hi Don, while many of us somehow know the Catholic church has demonic parts to it, I think I would like to know more about what the Bible says about satan and his powers, knowledge and limits. As I read more of the Bible with greater understanding I begin to realize God’s attributes but I am short on those that I fear the most. I see things in the world and get how satan has used man to turn God’s word upside down and then Job and the many things he was allowed to inflict upon him but is their something I am missing? A complete pic would I think help many of us to lose fear of him and be able to fight him. Thanks for that great explanation to M. Angelo.

  48. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Julie,

    I do not believe biblically ungrounded Christians should be focusing on the attributes of Satan or that Christians should be fearing him.

    The Bible indicates that Jesus defeated Satan at the cross. We that are born from above into the body of Christ are not to love the world system that Satan rules because it will go into destruction right after Jesus redeems all that the Father has given Him out of it.

    Fearing Satan is not in God’s will for Christians. All Christians really need to understand is that He that is in us is greater than he that is in the world. If we have on the full Armour of God we will win any spiritual battle with demonic forces.

    Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
    11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
    12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
    13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
    14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
    15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
    16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
    17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
    18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

  49. Ohio JulieNo Gravatar says:

    Thank you for these words. It does not always register that I am redeemed and in the world and not of it. I forget that justice is meted out by God and not satan, and most of all evil continues to create fear where it should not. Wise words not to dwell on the evil but to know it when we see it, such as Malachy and the workings of the Vatican. I shall distance myself from further study on the evil societies of the world and continue to concentrate on knowing the real God, the real Savior and hope to be content with that. You responded to a real urgency within me. Thank you for that. After sorting through all of it fear of justice from God scares me more but he is a God of grace and forgiveness. I will face the world on those terms. Once again, thank you for responding.

  50. Julie.

    The justice of God will be a comfort to all who have accepted and come to know Christ Jesus as Saviour.

    Why do I say that?

    The one who has believed on the Son of God, and as a consequence been sealed by God the Holy Spirit has passed from judgement, for Christ Jesus bore Divine judgement for sin in his body on the Cross.

    The justice of God was fully satisfied at the Cross and will not, indeed cannot be wielded against us again – perfect justice demands this to be so; only the unjust will demand judgement and condemnation a second time.

    Because God’s justice is perfect, we can be assured of forgiveness of sin redemption and eternal life, and freedom from condemnation. Why? BECAUSE Christ fulfilled the demands of perfect justice on our behalf.

    And this comfort I speak of is seen in the fact that God will now deal with us as his children, as a loving and divine Father.

  51. KevinNo Gravatar says:

    Hi Don: It is hard for me to believe how many people buy into this Malachy prophecy. Whether this next pope has the name Peter Romanus or Donald the Duck should not make any difference to us believers. However It has became the topic with the Catholic people that I work with. Perhaps it will get them into the word so they also will become believers. God can use this for his glory regardless of all the false hype.

  52. Ohio JulieNo Gravatar says:

    Hi Oz, thanks for the firm grounding. Leaders of the world have loosed things on this world which they can’t control and which will devour them as well as Christians. I think they are going to get a bigger surprise than the coming of Christ and God’s justice but, the horror I see coming is overwhelming. Malachy’s prophecy is a subtle thing compared to the violence perpetrated on true Christians and for the first time I discovered the target on my back when I learned more of the destroyer. Somehow I missed that in my readings all these years. I question now whether ignorance was bliss but it was not. My only hope is with peace in God. I think this is what was intended for me. Now my search begins anew. The “jiggies” are subsiding. Don was right about needing to be grounded.

  53. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Hi Kevin,

    Thanks for the workplace info but most Catholics do not own a Bible and if they do most of them will not read it. Most would not even read their own catechism.

  54. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Julie,

    Satan certainly wants to target Christians but if we have on the full armor of God he will depart from us. We certainly do not turn our back to him. From what you say, I get the feeling that you’re being hornswoggled. Satan can only do what he is allowed and what he is allowed always works out for the long term benefit of those that are called by God.

    Ro 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

  55. Julie

    In line with what Don has written (8:26 am):

    Satan is a created being. Christ Jesus is his Creator. Every true believer is IN CHRIST.

    We can have no greater protection than that, for to touch us Satan must first touch Christ.

    I believe it is rare privilege for God’s people to be called to the witness of martyrdom, but it is an everyday occurrence that we are called upon to fight the good fight. For this we must be fitted out with the whole armour of God but also know the battleground upon which we fight. That battleground is in our minds; not our bodies, not our society but our minds. Satan wants to dominate our minds, first to get our focus off our Lord Jesus Christ and then to tie us up in knots doctrinally.

    I beg of you, do not concentrate on the things of Satan, or of the evil in the world. Concentrate on your position IN CHRIST, and the peace of God will put Satan and the world in their proper place.

    Satan IS a murderer yes, but to the Christian that is a secondary role to being ‘the accuser of the Brethren’. Our concentration must be on Christ, in fact it is the Father’s direct will that we do so, and if we are successful in that, Satan will have little or nothing with which to accuse us and our peace and our joy will be a constant witness to God’s grace.

  56. Ohio JulieNo Gravatar says:

    Evening gentlemen, Thanks for the concern. I have completed the secret societies study. What evil lurks! It is like finding out your car pool friend of many years was the hitch-hiker killer on your day off. A bit melodramatic but the truth of it. Just for a bit I was hoping that I could be more watchful to avoid the whole hitch-hiker killer thing but I realized that only Jesus can do that and that is why he is here. Just made me feel creepy and paranoid. I am thankful Jesus has that under control. I am thankful that I have his grace and he will protect me from this in His will. People without his grace can’t handle the world as it is. That is the problem with it. satan gains control in just that way. At the heart of the Malachy deception is the inference that the last pope will be a reincarnate of one past, thought to be John Paul II and will usher in a controlling rule over the world with a consolidating religion. If history is any indication I don’t feel optimism. So, I am back to grace, prophecy and a better life through Christ. I’ll gladly take God’s justice any day of the week. Lord have mercy there are some seriously organized and sick people in this world. I no longer consider him the grand anything. He’s a sicko beyond belief.

  57. FountNo Gravatar says:

    The Saint Malachy to whom these writings are attributed to seems like a solid Christian believer according to the writings about him. He supposedly wrote his vision down in 1139 AD. It was “discovered” in the Vatican archives around 1590 AD. The first 451 years (covering 74 Popes & anti-Popes) is considered to be highly accurate as descriptions of them. The next 423 years to date (covering 58 Popes)is also pretty accurate although some say “not as accurate”.

    So, someone wrote either a 874 year prophecy covering 112 Popes or a 423 year prophecy covering 58 Popes – either way – this prophecy is an outstanding “guess”. Seems to me to be a little more on the prophetic side than a guess. Time will soon tell if the Pope elected next month fits the “Peter the Roman” title (the front runner today certainly fills that bill). If the tribulation occurs during his rule then Malachy / pseudo Malachy was evidently a prophet of God (most of us won’t be remembering Malachy at that time though).

    Either way, I believe this prophecy can be used to build the true kingdom of God among those in the Roman Catholic church today – many of them will listen to this type of information LONG before they will ever pick up a Bible and get the best prophetic road map. This can be a conversation leading them to the real Word of God!

  58. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Julie,

    I do not know where you came up with the reincarnation of John Paul II? It is not suggested in the prophecy attributed to Malachy and it certainly is nowhere found in the Bible, and it is not in Horn’s book. So wherever you are receiving this nonsense you really ought not to be buying into it. Don’t believe everything that you hear and read. In fact, don’t believe most of what you hear and read from those claiming to know secret mystical knowledge. Gnosticism is a very serious satanic deception that is rising again among many that identify with Christendom.

  59. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Fount,

    Don’t read more into the prophecies than what they actually say. As explained in Horn’s book and research, the first half of the prophecy is probably history written in hindsight.

    The last half of the prophecy is so subjective as to be almost irrelevant. Keep in mind that what is said about each pope is only a few Latin words, so it does not take much to make them fit someone if that is what you are looking to do.

    There is no way that this is a prophecy from God. Even the Nostradamus promoting John Hague says it is only about 80 percent accurate and everything that he has conjectured from the Nostradamus writings also turn out to be wrong.

    I think this is another deception. It will mainly lead Catholics to more mysticism and more deception. Catholics will buy into anything except the simple gospel.

  60. Bruce WayneNo Gravatar says:

    There are many people out there teaching that the following verses descibe the ‘Kingdom’ of the Vatican. Which came into being in 1929 via the Lateran Treaty.

    Revelation 17:10, “And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.”Revelation 17:11, “And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.”

    The Vatican actually have a glass casket for John Paul 2 and I’ve read they have his blood preserved.

    Of course I’ve heard numerous varying theories on this subject.

  61. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Bruce,

    You got to be kidding me!

    I suppose there really are such loons in the world, but it just shows that people will make up the most outlandish theories if they understand nothing about Bible prophecy and/or it sells. There are always enough gullible people with itching ears that are willing to buy anything.

  62. Ohio JulieNo Gravatar says:

    Exactly Don, but I found it on the internet so someone is promoting it, someone will read it and this is how satan works. Malachy and Fatima sat in the archives for hundreds of years and decades respectively waiting for a Pope to pull them out at a time when they can be used. It is hard to believe the Catholics that would guard these secrets so closely could be trusted to give them to us straight. Their arsenal of material is enormous and secret, it’s like they have guarded the game plan of the world and let loose whatever it is they find useful. Rather like never letting a crisis go to waste or creating one to sway uninitiated into their hands. It would be nice to think that God was being followed but reading the Bible confirms this is not the case. Nothing new under the sun, opportunistic and without merit in God’s plan for us, all of it. Those who have given over to the dark side will justify it as the only way to win in this world, victim mentality, all of it. This is who satan is. A victim of birthright theft who intends to win. To me this is illustrated in the Bible on several occasions and God makes it right every time. To despise victim hood and cling to righteousness is illustrated in the Bible. Those who accept God’s justice and move on have grace. Those who don’t are torment for themselves and those who will listen. Lots of big fish in the sea to swallow those who hide from God and lots of the alternative to separate from Him completely.

  63. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Julie,

    I suggest that you do more fact checking and less sermonizing if you want your comments posted. This excessive shoot from the hip editorializing where you bring in unrelated comments in your comments is distracting. Believe it or not, this is not a chat forum. All should read my commenting policy.

    The Malachy prophecy was not some big secret waiting for some pope to pull it out. The Catholic Church has never endorsed it as a reliable prophecy. The only thing about this prophecy that makes it have legs today is that the 112th pope and last one mentioned will be the next pope elected, and that certain people want to believe that the end of the world is upon us.

    Here is the problem. Believing this stuff makes people look for the Antichrist instead of looking for Jesus Christ. The timing of the end is set by the Father and not the Devil or end time speculators. God certainly did not give this “prophecy” to anyone, and if it is of the Devil it will not happen as foretold.

    By the way, the official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that even if the prophecy turns out to be valid, there could be more popes before the last one mentioned in the Malachy prophecy. Don’t ask me how they rationalize this gap theory.

  64. Hi Don,

    What I find interesting is how evil seems to always generate more interest in our society. If people spent as much time studying the Bible as they do the leftover writings of Nostradamus, the mayans, the toltecs, the Malachy list, fortune cookies, Ms. Cleo, the magic 8 ball, or any other non Godly work I missed, they would be much better off. But evil grabs the attention more than Godly works. I believe it is because of our sin nature, and need to be stimulated… And evil stimulates. Horror movies make a lot of money… I think this Malachy stuff is a “Red Herring” in a long list of “Red Herrings” thrown out by satan to confuse, mislead, and discourage both Christian and non Christians alike. Like many of satans lies, there may be a grain of accuracy and truth in Malachy’s work, but ultimately it is not accurate Biblical prophecy and is going to do more to harm, confuse, discourage and mislead than to bring people into a relationship with God.

    Just my 2 cents… :)
    Rod in Oregon

  65. jimNo Gravatar says:

    Don,

    You know what my biggest pet peeve is? People who claim to have special revelations and then have to guess the meaning of said revelation. If a prophecy was truly God given God would give the meaning without the guessing games and it would be 100% accurate right? I listened to an interview with Tom Horne and both he and the interviewer were doing this back and forth and it was driving me crazy.

  66. Barb CarterNo Gravatar says:

    Thank you Don for putting this into perspective. Have people forgotten that the book of Revelation is concerning The Revelation of Jesus Christ. He alone should be our focus. “Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus…”Phil.2:5. Repeatedly believers are told in scripture to resist the devil and he will flee from us. Dear Julie, take Brian’s advice and do not dwell on Satan. Don is giving us solid info on the nonsense that people believe instead of the word of God. By the way, I hold a weekly bible study with several Catholic ladies who truly know Jesus as Savior. They still enjoy the traditions held by the church but I pray for their minds to be open to flee denominations. Their bibles are written differently–whenever they read I have another translation read and it sure is different. Also, in the front of the bible it states (not sure of exact wording) that the pope overrides scripture. Deception is everywhere. We are to check everything with scripture. I for one keep my eyes on Jesus and listen to what is going on in Israel. All of this is interesting to read but we need discernment. I pray for it daily in these times. Thank you Holy Spirit for your guidance through watchmen like Don.

  67. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Jim,

    With me it is more than a pet peeve. I think leaders in the Church have a duty to expose these presumptuous heretics for what they are. They certainly should not be sharing their platform to help these people sell their neo-Gnosticsm as some are now doing.

    It is a plague from Charismania. Since they claim to be anointed by God they can never admit the message or presumption that they got did not come from God, so it must be that they did not interpret it correctly…yet.

    Their gullible followers never hold them accountable for what they say in the name of God so there is no downside to claiming special revelation these days. Nobody is going to stone them and people are told that the use of prophetic gifts is learned through trial and error.

    I get the impression from what I heard Horn say, and from who he associates with, that he is one of these hyper charismatics.

  68. Rod in Oregon

    Your 2 cents are worth more than their weight in gold.
    “I believe it is because of our sin nature, and need to be stimulated… And evil stimulates.”

    Emotional stimulation is as addictive as drugs, sex, money, power etc. etc. – AND unrestrained emotional stimulation will end in mindless soul destroying ecstatics, which so many claim to be proof of the filling of the Spirit.

    But I digress.

  69. Bruce WayneNo Gravatar says:

    Sadly, millions of people are looking for the truth and many of them fall into snares or are side tracked by what tickles and tantilizes.

    I don’t put much credence in extra Biblical prophesies at all. Some are fascinating only in the sense that they seem to match up with some Biblical truths.

    Satan after all does have false prophets and can work false signs and wonders. Satan does seem to imitate what God does (false prophet – antichrist) but that’s of course all he can do is imitate.

    I do know that there are so many signs of late pointing to the immenent return of Christ. The signs in the heavens, Sun, Moon and earth in just the last 7 or 8 years has been unprecidented including asteroids and meteors. Most people don’t see the news or take the time to see what is transpiring around the entire globe.

    What really struck me in the back-side of the head was the following news inforamtion I read the other day: Op-Ed: Exclusive: A Seat for the Pope at King David’s Tomb

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/12814

    It’s news in that article that screams to me from a Biblical stand-point that time is short.

    Luke 21:28 “When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

  70. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Bruce,

    There have been no signs in the heavens, Sun, Moon and Earth that have not been happening since the great flood. What Jesus was talking about was the Day of the Lord. During that time the heavens and earth will be totally shaken. Similar description is given in Joel. If you think the things that Jesus mentioned are happening now you must be living on another planet.

    Lk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
    26 Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
    27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
    28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

    There are no such signs before the Rapture. The false signs and wonders are only allowed to deceive people on earth after they reject the truth from God’s witnesses. Then Satan is cast out of Heaven and the Son of Perdition rises out of the pit and is promoted by the False Prophet. We are not there yet.

    The Vatican has had an agenda for quite a while to administer the Holy sites in Jerusalem. I suppose it will happen as part of some brokered peace treaty but first a great war becomes more than likely.

  71. jycgNo Gravatar says:

    Regardless of what happens to the leadership of the RCC it is important to pay attention because the RCC has great influence in many aspects of this world (much of which is hidden from the public). There are many “identifiers” that people need to remain aware of in the coming months and years that will demonstrate the unfolding of prophetic events. The events related to religious institutions (including the RCC) is but one of them.

    In my opinion, the most important “sign post” is Israel(and the entire surrounding region) and the events (especially the expected future wars and temporary peace covenant) that this nation will be associated with. In the meantime everything else is interesting as a temporary distraction(or potential deception?). Anyway, there will be no shortage of apparent wondrous things to think about, write about and discuss in the interim.

  72. Caitlin LaneNo Gravatar says:

    Hi again. Maybe you have already heard this but I read a few days ago that a black socialist Cardinal is in the running for pope and is backed by Soros. His name is Peter Turkus. I wanted to provide a link to the article but it isn’t on my facebook page anymore.

  73. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Caitlin,

    I am aware that Peter Turkus is one the early favorites. We will not have long to find who is actually elected.

  74. DonNo Gravatar says:

    They just selected the next Pope. It is Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio of Argentina. He has chosen the name Frances so he will be called Pope Frances.

    It will be interesting to watch how the Hornites now try to spin that Pope into “Peter the Roman” rather than admit the prophecy is bull.

    I looked at his coat of arms. I can see nothing there that they can spin. Wait! There is something there hanging off a hat that looks a bit like part of a fishing net if one uses all their powers of imagination(Peter was a fisherman).

    Or Maybe they will dispute the election and say he does not count. I am sure they will come up with something. They always do. Maybe he will get an Italian talking bird that he will name Petros. Or maybe the Pope takes cod liver oil. Such is the stuff that the Malachy “prophecy” is made up of.

  75. AnnaNo Gravatar says:

    That’s Funny Don. But wait, hold on a minute there…Wasn’t Peter’s middle name Francis?

  76. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Anna,

    No. Peter was the name given by Jesus. His birth name was Simon bar Jonah.

  77. Oh but wait… This Pope’ father was an immigrant from Italy.. So he is Italian… And he is the “spiritual” Peter, being the Bishop of Rome…. :) Not a bad spin eh?

    Rod

  78. Bruce WayneNo Gravatar says:

    If Christ was given even 1% of the attention given to any Pope, the world would be a far different place!

    The world’ s focus is earth-bound and not heaven-ward and the vast majority will be caught proverbially with their pants down when Christ returns.

  79. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Rod,

    Your closer than you know

  80. Thanks Don,

    LOL.. I like what Bruce said.. How about we focus more on the words of Christ? Good point..

    So my spin might actually be close huh? Maybe I should have gone into politics instead of Psychology…. LOL…

    Rod

  81. Bruce WayneNo Gravatar says:

    I see Tom Horn is claiming he was right all along.

    The details are in this article just out…

    http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/03/pope-francis-historys-final-pontiff/

  82. Steve in SCNo Gravatar says:

    Im sure all of the attention will turn to the fact that Pope Francis is the first Jesuit to serve as Pope, and people will say he is controlled by the Illuminati…or vice versa.

  83. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Bruce

    I guess I am a prophet. I knew the Hornites would come up with something.

  84. DonNo Gravatar says:

    The Hornites certainly will, read the link that Bruce Wayne has

  85. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Since according to Horn the Antichrist and the 76 year old False Prophet Pope are already upon us. I guess I will have to buy Horn’s book coming out next month to see how the devils posing as aliens will put an end to the story for us within the next few years. I wonder what happened to the two prophets or will they turn out to be Thomas Horn and Rick Joyner and the 144,000 Jews will be their New Apostolic Reformation Replacement Theology associates?

  86. Bruce WayneNo Gravatar says:

    Matthew 5:34 But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne;

    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesuits.htm

    As a Jesuit, Francis has taken extreme oaths to be what he is and get where he is and the Jesuits main goal is to convert the world to Roman Catholicism, the destruction of Protestantism and of course destroy all Biblical Christianity.

    Jesuits are a nefarious secret society and will use any means to achieve their goals and have done so in the past including lying, cheating and murder. One just has to do a basic study of the Jesuits to find out what their actual goals are and how devilish they are.

    I don’t think Pope Francis I bodes well for a world that needs the True Biblical message of Christ more now than ever before. IMO this Pope will do whatever it takes and fast track it to further the papal goal of uniting all religions into a one world system and of course under his authority and Roman Catholocism.

    http://www.thebibleistheotherside.org/newsitem24.htm

  87. Bruce WayneNo Gravatar says:

    I see Francis 1 is already busy at work appealing to the Jews.

    http://foxnews.com/world/2013/03/15/pope-fracis-reaches-out-to-jews-pledges-to-continue-to-foster-strong-relations/

    It’ll be interesting to see when he goes to Jerusalem to occupy the his new seat there and claim all of the Holy sites Rome has bought through decades of negotiations.

    I’ve read there’s a US/Papal peace treaty in the works for this June. You have to wonder about that…

  88. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Bruce,

    The Vatican openly wants to administrate the Holy sites in Jerusalem. I think that will happen as part of a brokered deal.

  89. SueNo Gravatar says:

    Is it simple coincidence that St. Francis of Assisi’s real name is Francesco di Pietro?

  90. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Sue,

    Actually, his real name was Francesco di Pietro di Bernardone. His Father was named Pietro and that is why he has Pietro in his middle name. The Pope took the name Francis and not Francis Pietro and just because the Pope took on the name after St. Francis that had Pietro in his middle name does not support his being Peter the Roman of the Malachy prophecy by any stretch of one’s imagination.

  91. Bruce WayneNo Gravatar says:

    No Surprise Here…Ecumenism is Not Scriptural!

    World Evangelical Alliance Congratulates Pope Francis; Hopes to Continue Dialogue With Catholic Church

    Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/world-evangelical-alliance-congratulates-pope-francis-hopes-to-continue-dialogue-with-catholic-church-91925/#Rptg29iBbm6puxCb.99 http://www.christianpost.com/news/world-evangelical-alliance-congratulates-pope-francis-hopes-to-continue-dialogue-with-catholic-church-91925/

    “Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, ‘I will dwell in them and walk among them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. Therefore, come out from their midst and be separate,’ says the Lord. ‘And do not touch what is unclean; And I will welcome you. And I will be a Father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to Me,’ Says the Lord Almighty.” (2 Corinthians 6:14-18).

  92. Don:

    Many thanks for a great article on the fallacy of what Tom Horn and Cris Putnam turned out in Petrus Romanus the Final Pope is Here. All of their predictions fell false.
    A great review of the book can be found at this site by David James (I know him not)

    http://herescope.blogspot.ca/2013/03/petrus-romanus.html

  93. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks Daniel,

    I edited out your first link because the attack on Horn and Putnam is unacceptable and the arguments are mostly BS. David James on the other hand gives an excellent review of the book.

  94. mgNo Gravatar says:

    Pope’s Video Fulfills Prophecy

    by Doug Batchelor (According to the Bible)

    YOU TUBE Link: http://youtu.be/IsF2q-8ez08

    Everyone Please go this link: http://youtu.be/IsF2q-8ez08

    In You Tube and you will find all the answers based in the Bible that would prove
    that ken Copeland and Tony Palmer are persuading to bring all the churches in
    Unity with each other.

    Diversity is divine division is Diabolical. (not true)

    So someone stating that is not following or taking the stand for the bible. If it
    is not written in the Bible then it is false doctrine. Please copy and paste
    this link and go to YOU TUBE and watch the video as Pastor Doug Bachelor will
    reveal the real truth according to the Bible and Bible alone.

    Thank you spread the word Jesus is coming soon!!!!!

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