Getting ready for TEOTWAWKI or just choosing a less dependent lifestyle?

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I am not advocating that people get a retreat in Montana waiting for the end of the world as we know it (TEOTWAWKI). I know the thought has crossed the mind of many of you people who see that an economic disaster is on the horizon for the U.S.

For you I have found an article that has links to a blog and website that deal with living a survivalist lifestyle so you will know the issues involved.

If I had no ties keeping me currently where I am at and I had a little cash stashed away I would serious consider living in some remote retreat. But not because I think the world will end as we know it (even though it certainly may) but because I choose to be as independent from the world as rationally
possible. Take the Amish for example, they can live quite well if things in the nation go to hell or if they go on as usual. The truth of the matter is that I am considering finding such a place at some point but I have set no specific date for doing so.

Living a simpler life would mean a major downscale of one’s living standards. But, do we really need a 2500 sqft house with 2.5 bathrooms, three cars, Satellite TV service, 42 inch HDTV, high speed Internet, cell phones and unlimited long distance? Do we need all the big city expensive amenities and their extra taxes? Do we need the latest fashions and the latest Chinese gadgets that are going to break down in two years and need replacing? Are we really working half our life just to keep us in material crap?

I figure with our new economic socialist policies and our national debt it is certain to bring our living standards down to that of Mexico within ten years anyway. So why not just live like your a Mexican now :smile: . Buy a modest place in the country with a few acres now while you can still can, rather than trying to live like a Mexican in ten years in your government owned house with all the new regulations and the big city predators.

So If I can arrange things I will be looking for that homestead but finding it will be difficult. That is because I need to find a place where it will not be too hot, too cold, too humid, too buggy, too expensive or too full of half insane survivalist people. :mrgreen:

In hard times, some flirt with survivalism - Economy in Turmoil- msnbc.com

Getting ready for ‘TEOTWAWKI’
“There are a lot more people — a lot more eager people — who are trying to get themselves squared away logistically,” said Rawles, who lectures and writes books on preparing for and surviving “TEOTWAWKI” The End Of The World As We Know It.

Rawles, a self-described Christian conservative, said most of his readers had similar backgrounds when he started his blog in 2005. But he said that as the financial crisis has unfolded — particularly when oil prices began to soar — he started hearing from a much broader segment of the population.

“Now it’s the entire political spectrum — far right, far left and everything in between,” said Rawles. “I’m getting over 200 e-mails from readers a day. Now it is quite apparent how many more liberals are writing. Same concerns, different outlook. Greens, for instance, put less emphasis on self-defense and guns.”

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U.S. Intelligence is worried that Pakistan may fall to terrorists.

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Apparently our own intelligence agencies now believe that the situation in Pakistan is grave and that Pakistan is near the brink of falling into the hands of terrorists. Rick Moran in this blog questions what Obama or what the U.S. would do in such a situation. I do not think there would be any choice. We cannot allow terrorists to get their hands on scores of nuclear weapons and we cannot allow a terrorist state in Pakistan, nor will India ever allow such a thing.

Here is what I believe would happen. The nukes will immediately be taken out or fully protected by U.S. special forces because if we did not do that right away India will take them out with a nuclear first strike on Pakistan.

Once the nukes are secure. I think NATO, India and a Pakistani resistance would become allies and India would invade from the south and NATO forces would invade for the north. The formal Pakistan army is not going to put up any kind of real fight because except for the terrorist infiltrators in the ranks most of the military leaders would sooner join the effort to get rid of the terrorists in their nation. Most of the Pakistani people would also work with the allies in defeat of the terrorists.

Once the allies have control of the terrorist strongholds and Al Qaida and the Taliban power is put down a Pakistani general will rule again until they are able to once again have free elections. Dealing with Pakistan is the only solution for a victory against terrorists in Afghanistan anyway. So if Pakistan can’t or won’t deal with the problem we eventually will have to. I think Obama has make his position on the Pakistani situation clearer than McCain so I do not see him not dealing with the problem if the terrorists should gain control. Also India will keep him honest. India will never tolerate a Pakistani nuclear terrorist state. Nor will our Military Joint Chiefs of Staff. Even a rouge President would not be allowed to put our nation in mortal danger. Our military is sworn to protect the U.S. from all enemies foreign and domestic.

American Thinker Blog: ‘Pakistan on the edge’

A growing al Qaida-backed insurgency, combined with the Pakistani army’s reluctance to launch an all-out crackdown, political infighting and energy and food shortages are plunging America’s key ally in the war on terror deeper into turmoil and violence, says a soon-to-be completed U.S. intelligence assessment

No way to shield Afghanistan from this storm. If Pakistan falls to the terrorists, things will become very dicey, very quickly in Afghanistan. No doubt any government sympathetic to the Taliban and al-Qaeda would throw open the borders and allow fighters to infliltrate with ease.

Would we let this happen? Would we allow Pakistan with its nukes to fall into the hands of terrorists?

Can it get that bad in Pakistan? The Pakistanis themselves now say that two vital regions - Swat and the area around Peshawar - are already in al-Qaeda’s hands. The whole government is rotten to the core so it won’t take much to push it over.

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Does the war of Psalms 83 come before the war of Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39?

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I have not read the book “Isralestine”, by Bill Salus but it sounds like an intriguing prophetic explanation of end time events. Almost all futurist Bible prophecy students will agree that there are three end time wars involving Israel. However, we disagree somewhat on the timing of first two wars. Those wars being the Ezekiel Chapter 38 and 39 war where Gog comes down with a host of nations and the Psalms 83 war where a confederacy of nations attempts to cut Israel off from being a nation. In the mix somewhere is the destruction of Damascus since the prophecy has never been fulfilled yet.

I have heard enough about this book to know that Bill Salus makes a strong case for the war of Psalms 83 coming first. I believe the premise is that after the aftermath of the Psalms 83 war that brings the destruction of Damascus, Israel will expand its borders. That will allow Israel to have the security that is implied by Ezekiel at the time of the Gog invasion. At that time Russia will come down with a host of nations against Israel and God will intervene.

In the past, I have tended to put the Ezekiel war first and I placed the Psalm 83 war in the middle of the tribulation making that the reason why the Jews flee to the mountains. However, Bill Salus may be correct, it does answer a whole lot of questions.

If you have read this book I would appreciate your own insights.

Israel destroys Damascus, then Russia invades

Indeed Russia and Iran are ready to make their moves, but what about Syria? Oddly Syria, who today panders alongside Iran for Russian affections, is not included among the elite nine members of the Ezekiel 38 and 39 consortium of attacking nations. Why not? What knocks their quiver of missiles out of the Ezekiel military equation?

As I have documented in my recently released book, “Isralestine, The Ancient Blueprints of the Future Middle East,” the Bible makes quite clear that in a distinctly separate Psalm 83 episode Damascus, the capital of Syria, soon ceases to be a city, and subsequently shortly thereafter Russia and Iran advance against Israel.

Furthermore “Isralestine” explains how the destruction of Damascus followed by the Ezekiel invasion sets the stage for the final tribulation period, whereby the Antichrist rallies his Armageddonites together in one last days ditch effort to destroy the Jewish race.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin

Thus there are three scheduled end time advances against Israel, not just Ezekiel’s. First comes Psalm 83, the Arab-Israeli war, followed promptly by the Ezekiel 38 and 39 Russian – Iranian invasion, and lastly the campaign of Armageddon by the Antichrist.

The destruction of Damascus will be such a powerful world event that Isaiah was instructed to boldly and succinctly state, the burden against Damascus. “Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, And it will be a ruinous heap.” (Isaiah 17:1, NKJV) Isaiah further announces that the fortified cities of Syria will be forfeited into Israeli sovereignty. (Isaiah 17:9) This suggests that the dooming of Damascus and conquest of Syria results from of an Israeli Defense Forces campaign.

Amos and Jeremiah echo this 2,800-year-old Isaiah prophecy by prophetically uttering some additional details they were given. Amos declares that the capitol building of Syria will go up in smoke, and that the nation as a whole, will go into captivity. (Amos 1:3-5) Jeremiah concurs and furthermore declares the Syrian military will be decisively defeated, and in addition many young men will die in the blood-stained streets of Damascus. (Jeremiah 49:23-27)

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The Bailouts are part of a conspiracy leading to the Beast economic system?

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The bailouts may bring us one step closer to the one world Beast economic system but there are some things said in this article that quite frankly make unfounded innuendos about people in our government and in the financial management of our money that are just not appropriate.

The article seems to paint that since the great depression we have been control by a worldwide conspiracy that is deliberately leading us to the Mark of the Beast system. There is no such conspiracy there is no such evil cabal of men. What is happening is the inevitable results of man’s mismanagement of the world’s economic systems. Man is designed to organize and manage things on the earth and anywhere you have civilization management is going to take place. Otherwise you have anarchy.

Because of the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life one thing man does always leads to another. He overspends and goes into debt (the borrower will be the slave of the lender) so he becomes enslaved by the lenders through his own debt to them. The lenders are people of the same nature and they do the same thing and end up being the slaves of those with more money etc., soon everyone is owing more than they can pay and the debts have to wiped clean or the whole system collapses. That is where the U.S. is at now.

God had a way to deal with that weakness in man in the law. There was a Jubilee every fifty years where everyone’s debts were wiped out and they were to start afresh. We of course do not do what God instructed Israel to do in the law so we just keep piling up debt until the system has to collapse. When the latest modern collapse of the monetary system takes place the world elite will not want to make the same mistakes again so they will create the best system they can with the tools that they have available. In the future that means RFID tags, embedded chips and a secure worldwide economic system.

it is not really a sinister conspiracy plot as some try to sell. If man could actually manage his own sin on earth he would not need bailing out by a Savior. In addition, as long as the Church is here to be salt and light things on earth may get bad but they are not going to get totally out of control. It is only after the restrainer is taken out of the way and Satan is cast out of Heaven that the Beast system takes control of the inevitable world electronic economic system. Before Satan and his angels are cast out of heaven there are no restrictions on taking part in any of this. The electronic system only becomes sinister after the angels are cast out unto the earth and force people to take the mark and worship the Beast in order to buy or sell. Only when Satan has control of the whole earth does world electronic banking fulfill Bible prophecy.

Let’s not put the cart before the horse here and think that Satan actually can do anything he wants now, he cannot. He answers to God and only in the last 42 months does God give Satan free reign on earth in order for him to deceive those who would not have Jesus rule over them.

This article also jumps to the conclusion that Americans have lost control of their destiny. Did we ever have control of our own destiny? Not only that, the U.S. is only one nation on the earth. Believe it or not, everything is not about America.

America + decline does not = end of world, as some like to think.

America is not in Bible prophecy and that most likely is because America is not a major factor in the world during end time events. Nations have risen and fallen in the past and the Beast never rose to power because of it. Will the Beast come to power now because of U.S. economic troubles? If he does it will not be because America falls but because true Christian’s rise (Rapture) and Satan falls (to the earth).

There simply is something missing in the logic of those who love these ongoing conspiracy themes. I know saying that will not be popular with those who see demonic cabals everywhere, or the end of the world every Feast of Trumpets. The truth is that the Rapture is not likely to occur on the Feast of Trumpets this year and it probably will not come on the next or the next. The Rapture does not have to occur on the Feast of Trumpets at all despite all the Internet speculations. The Church is not Israel.

Events will go on until the time set by the Father and some Christians just need to get used to that fact and stop looking for some magic formula so they can scare their friends with their new found revelations. They need to stop blaming all the inevitable problems caused by man as proof text that the end will be here in 2012.

It is always getting closer to the end but there is no conspiracy of demon possessed men running the earth. They could not get along with each other if there were. We cannot even get the Pastors and deacons of our churches on the same page and we are led by the Holy Spirit. How in the world then does Satan get his possessed and his also possessed to see eye to eye on anything?

Then you wonder why some Christians get upset with those who spend all their time trying to figure out the timing of the Rapture and the second coming instead of using their gifts for the Church and working to get people saved? In my experience half the people coming up with these dates and theories do not even attend a local church.

Don’t get me wrong, I teach Bible prophecy and I think the Lord is coming in the lifetime of most of the people reading this article but much of what is being said lately in the name of Bible prophecy really are pagan theories with Bible terminology. I guess I am now in big trouble with some of you. Please spare me the email because when I do not see things your way you send me insults. I really do have better things to waste my time on. I get a little tired of unsolicited emails from those who just have to get me to agree with their conspiracies or agree that they know the day or dates of the Rapture or second coming. Almost always after a half dozen exchanges the only thing accomplished is wasted time.

But I digress, what the big bailout means is that most of us are too greedy and we spend far more than we have and we are so far in debt that we can never pay it back. We buy houses we cannot afford betting on them to rise in value ten percent a year and we expect our mutual fund managers to keep giving us ten percent returns on our investment when they can only safely give us five. We knew that they were gambling with our investments but we thought that everything keeps going up and that they were too smart to lose. Well, they did lose, and there will be a bailout by us or there will be a depression. There also will be more bailouts by us until the world decides it does not want to bail out America anymore. When that happen we are going to lose more than you can imagine.

That is really what all the bailouts mean. It is not some dark conspiracy by satanic bankers to take over the world it is our own enslavement to debt!

What the big bailout means

Do you think it’s an accident?

Do you think it’s just a case of bad management?

Do you think the proposed $700 billion taxpayer bailout of U.S. financial institutions just happened?

I don’t think so.

In fact, I think it’s part of a master plan – one pushing us inevitably, inexorably closer to a closed cashless global economic system of total control.

I know. This seems like an extreme statement. It sounds like I’ve drunk deep of the conspiracy Kool-Aid. But let’s take a look at history.

Americans have lost control of their own destiny. Elections don’t mean much. Congressional debates are illusory. We are on a path to tyranny. Neither Barack Obama nor John McCain is going to stop it. Neither a Republican Congress nor a Democratic Congress is likely to slow it down.

Most Americans seem ill-equipped to understand what’s happening or to comprehend the forces at work behind it. They seem more concerned with their basic needs and material pleasures than the fact that they are losing their birthright of self-government and individual freedom – that their children will never experience the promises of the Constitution.

What just happened? To simplify it, the government just got a lot bigger and more powerful, which means another nail was just hammered into the coffin of American liberty. And, in one of the largest wealth transfer schemes in history, a few wealthy and powerful individuals just got wealthier and more powerful – at your expense.

But this is not the end. This is not the final fix. This is not the final solution – not by a long shot. There will be more consolidations of power and money. There will be more “reforms.” There will be more regulations, more restrictions on the way you conduct your affairs, more centralization and control.

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McCain Palin should get the vote of all true Christians

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John McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin was brilliant. He could not have pleased Evangelical Conservatives more had he picked Kay Arthur for his Vice President running mate. Here is a bright young vibrant born again Christian Governor that is not part of the good old boy Washington political establishment. A woman that is actually living out her faith in her decisions and lifestyle. Dr. Dobson is excited about Sarah Palin being McCain’s choice as is Rush Limbaugh and they will now support McCain. These are the the two big voices that can actually bring out a large conservative vote for McCain. This choice by McCain also sets the stage for the future of the Republican party if
he should win.

Sarah Palin certainly will be a great asset to help McCain win. She will not only appeal to mainstream women she will appeal to blue collar Democrats opposed to abortion and elitist socialism. With this ticket I also support McCain even though I do not agree with some of his past positions. The alternative to this ticket is the ticket of the far left and their demented polices will likely bring the demise of this nation.

You also have to give McCain some credit for his leadership decisions and his judgment. Obama is so out of touch that he could not even pick a suitable Vice President that would appeal to mainstream America. He picked a tired old liberal ivy league professional politician from the good-old-boy network. Mainstream America does not want Joe Biden with his lack of good judgment and his talking down to everyone who does not agree. The Catholic church is not even sure that they want him in their fellowship with his pro abortion views.

I guess some will say that McCain only picked Sarah Palin as a strategic move and that he does not actually believe the things that she does. That certainly might be true but think about this reality. John McCain is 72 years old. Statistics indicate that there is about a 20 percent chance the he will not finish out his first term. He would have only about a 50/50 chance of finishing two terms and if either should happen the most grounded Christian and independent minded person in politics would take over.

Also having Sarah Palin as number two will keep John McCain honest. Should be become too liberal there is a huge chance that he would not even be nominated for a second term and there is also a chance in any case that McCain will not even run for a second term. If any of these things happen Sarah Palin would become the front runner for President. Palin will become hugely popular after a term as Vice President as she is popular as Governor of Alaska with over 80 percent support. Even if McCain serves out two full terms Sarah Palin would be the logical successor and that should be a good thought for Christians.

So I am bringing all this up to tell those who said they will sit out this election because they do not like either choice to now reconsider and vote for McCain/Palin. God could have a plan here for restoring America to constitutional government, as well as fiscal and moral sanity, if His people will do their part and vote against the takeover of America by far left radicals.

A GOP first — female VP nominee (OneNewsNow.com)

John McCain has announced an “out-of-the-box” pick for his vice-presidential running mate: Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. (see video report)

In Dayton, Ohio, the McCain campaign has confirmed that the presumptive GOP presidential nominee named Palin — the first female governor of Alaska — as his pick to join him on the November ticket. Palin and her husband, Todd, are the parents of five children, one of them with Down syndrome. She is a reformer and a self-styled “hockey mom.”

The 44-year-old governor, described by some in the media as a “religious conservative,” was elected to lead Alaska in 2006 after defeating the Republican incumbent. She is strongly pro-life, opposes same-sex “marriage,” and is noted for her energy policies promoting independence from big oil companies.


Governor Palin is described by many conservatives as someone who will rally not only women voters, but also pro-life supporters. Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life, says pro-life supporters are familiar with Governor Palin. He says Governor’s Palin’s spot on the ticket will attract those who had mixed feelings about Senator McCain.

“If we look at the vast segment of the electorate for whom abortion influences their vote — and that’s approximately one third or more of the electorate — then we find within that segment that there is a two-to-one margin in favor of pro-life candidates.”


Christian activist Dr. Gary Cass also believes evangelicals will strongly support McCain now that he has chosen Palen as his running mate. Cass is chairman of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission (CADC), which this past spring unveiled an online petition. The document called on presidential nominees for both major political parties to select a running mate who as been born again, who publicly affirms historic Christianity, and who has a proven record of supporting traditional Christian morality.

Cass says Governor Palin will re-energize the evangelical base. “We have a young, evangelical leader who stands for our particular issues, who will be now be a leader into the future,” he says of the governor-turned-VP-candidate. “[I]t was a very courageous choice by John McCain.”

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No Homeland Security EMP Emergency Action Plan?

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It would seem rather bazaar that there would be no emergency action plan in place to deal with the aftermath of an EMP attack on the U.S. It poses the greatest immediate and near future danger to the survival of the U.S. other than an all out nuclear attack by Russia or China.

Both Russia and China have hinted at using an EMP against the United States and definitely have the capability. We also know from the missile tests of Iran and N. Korea that they could have that capability soon, not to mention that terrorists could obtain the capability on their own if they have or acquire a nuclear bomb. So why is there no public plan in place when both Congress and the military clearly know of this EMP threat?

There may be an explanation. Perhaps there are plans in place but they are Top Secret Emergency Actions plans. Such plans would be found among the top secret plans of a nuclear attack against the United States from a foreign power.

Your not going to find these types of top secret military plans in the Department of Homeland Security’s Public Emergency Plan booklet. Most in Homeland Security would not even know of these plans because they do not have the required security clearance. Even the few that do know of them are not going to share top secret information with local governments and the public. There is quite a bit of classified information that the government does not make known to the public for good reason.

I think I can tell you the crux of EMP Emergency Action Plan in one sentence. The problem would be so devastating and so widespread that there would be the suspension of the Constitution, complete military marshal law, and government control over everyone and everything. The same as it would be after a massive nuclear attack on the U.S. by Russia or China. I believe the government already has these plans in place and if an EMP would occur they would implement them.

U.S. still naked to EMP threat

Electricity grids down, uncontrolled fires from exploding gas transport systems, no communication to call for help, no water to battle fires: It’s all part of a catastrophic scenario some scientists predict could happen under an electromagnetic pulse attack – and the Department of Homeland Security’s 83-page emergency plan includes no mention of EMP or how it might respond to such an attack.

When WND contacted the Department of Homeland Security, a representative explained why a course of action was not included in the National Emergency Communications Plan – a strategy that relies heavily on the ability of authorities at all levels of government to communicate using radios, computers and other electronic devices that could be disabled by an EMP attack.

“When we look at the strategic threat picture, when we look at patterns of criminal activity that all levels of government show, when we look at what is ultimately going to involve limited resources, we have to get to a point where we prioritize,” DHS spokesman Russ Knocke said. “We prioritize based upon threat vulnerability and consequence. As we speak today, there’s nothing in the threat picture that would suggest an imminent EMP attack.”

However, Congress has expressed concern regarding the threat of EMP. A top scientist warned the House Armed Services Committee in July that America remains vulnerable to a “catastrophe” from a nuclear electromagnetic pulse attack that could be launched with plausible deniability by hostile rogue nations or terrorists.

William R. Graham, chairman of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack and the former national science adviser to President Reagan, testified before the committee and issued an alarming report on “one of a small number of threats that can hold our society at risk of catastrophic consequences.”

He identified vulnerabilities in the nation’s critical infrastructures, “which are essential to both our civilian and military capabilities.”

Not taking the steps necessary to reduce the threat in the next three to five years “can both invite and reward attack,” Graham told the committee.

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Pope Benedict’s quest to save Western civilization points to the American Constitutional Republic model

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This article is very long. I admit it is not for everyone. However, if you are an intellectual you might want to read about Pope Benedict’s views on the decline of Western civilization. He sees the early American Republic model of government as the best way to save Europe. For a European Pope to say the West is in decline and to say the American Republic form of government is the answer for the West is quite unexpected.

Benedict’s latest views on postmodernism and cultural relativism where cultural has separated from truth are also very astute observations.

Meanwhile, Liberals in America are now rapidly moving us in the wrong direction away from an authentic Constitutional Republic to the Western system that the Pope believes has caused the Western decline. Pope Benedict is correct.

The Pope’s quest to save Western civilization

Pope Benedict XVI has identified several causes for the intellectual, moral, cultural, and spiritual decline of the European civilization. I was thrilled to learn about this because I have independently come to some of the same conclusions. Allow me to recapitulate his conclusions as five theses:

1) The West has declined because of the modern separation of faith and truth.

2) The West has declined because of the modern separation of metaphysical truth and practical truth.

3) The West has declined because of the modern separation of freedom and truth.

4) The West has declined because of its postmodern rejection the old rapprochement between Christianity and the classics of ancient Greece and Rome.

5) The attempt to rehabilitate of West by returning to the culture of premodern Catholic Europe would be a mistake. He points to another way forward.

Benedict points to the American Republic

Benedict encourages Europe to learn from the 18th and 19th century Anglo-Saxon world and its balance of freedom, order, truth, and morality in the public and private spheres. The American experiment as described by Alexis de Tocqueville is particularly instructive, according to Benedict!

American conservatives who are seeking the restoration of the old Republic and authentic constitutional government should take heart. What we are seeking is what the pope says Europe should be seeking to find their way back to the right road. American conservatives, whether Protestant or Catholic, are in the vanguard of history.

Note to the Reader: Since writing this essay, I discovered that Pope Benedict has identified yet another way that the West has gone wrong. The postmodern West has separated truth from culture. The result is cultural relativism, which is the triple fallacy that: 1) man has no nature, but is a cultural construct, 2) all cultures are equally valid, and 3) “truth” is culturally determined. A separate essay will be needed to deal with the myth of multiculturalism that is based upon this triple fallacy
(bold emphasis mine).

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David Flynn and Newton’s unified theory of Bible prophecy dating?

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David Flynn’s “Temple at the Center of Time: Newton’s Bible Codex Deciphered and the Year 2012, is probably all very interesting but can you really tell significant biblical events on the earth from the distance from the Temple in nautical miles or feet?

As in the Bible Code, what we have here more likely than not, is selecting what supports the theory and ignoring what does not. If God was going to make a unified system of Bible prophecy everything would fit not just what the author choose to select.

I also do not believe the Millennial temple will be at the Temple Mount of Old Jerusalem. It is much too large. So what does that do to the exact measurements when you do not even know the exact point on the earth to measure from? Are you measuring from Ezekiel’s Millennial Temple or the ancient Temple Mount?

Was God using our modern calenders and nautical miles for events? That would not be likely. Why measure to London just because it took over that area of the world in 1917 and then apply London to the year 1948 because it is 1948 nautical miles to London? The British hindered the return of the Jews in the end, so it seems more fitting to me use the nautical miles to the UN in New York city should be used but that distance would not fit the 1948 theory. Why were Nautical miles used in one measurement and feet in another? Just because they fit?

The book is being compared to the “Bible Code” but as far as I am concerned the Bible Code has been adequately debunked. These theories all sound good because the author stacks the deck. Only after
the scholars and skeptics give their reason why the theory does not hold up is there any balance brought to the speculations. It is like going to court and only hearing the case against the defendant and not ever
hearing the defense. This is why those that give doctoral theses also have to give a defense of their thesis.

I have not read the book so I cannot comment on the details in it but I surmise that after the scholars critique the book it will fittingly join with the Bible code.

It seems that an awful lot of people have figured out a date for the start of the tribulation or the second coming. Many are jumping on the 2012 to 2019 bandwagon others are picking 2032 2033 as the return of the Lord. Did we not also hear not so long ago about dating schemes built into the Great Pyramid where the end was going to come in 2000? Now we have the Mayan Calendar influence for 2012 that is plaguing us and helping to spawn these new theories. I have news to a certain TV Bible prophecy teacher and everyone else, God has no reason to follow pagan calendars and theories. Why should any Christian believe they contain truth?

I get documents from people writing books who have the timing of the second coming or the start of the tribulation all mathematically figured out to an exact year and feast day. However, I notice when one starts with what one believes to be the prophetic date and then makes all their data conform to fit that date it will come out to the date they want it to come out.

We are getting close to the end. We can see that by world events but when you are tossing out your precise theory of when Jesus will return or reading someone else’s profound theories on that date, you might not sell the farm quite yet.

Is Temple Mount God’s time bomb?

Was the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem more than a place of worship?

Was it, indeed, a roadmap to future events – a kind of prophetic landmark whose significance is only now revealed through the development of satellite imagery?

That is the contention of an explosive new book, “Temple at the Center of Time: Newton’s Bible Codex Deciphered and the Year 2012,” by David Flynn.

The book asserts it has “deciphered Isaac Newton’s greatest paradox: None other than ‘the unified field theory’ of Bible prophecy.”

The Romans established Londinium in about A.D. 47. It was a civilian settlement built where the Thames became narrow enough for a bridge to be built across it but was still deep enough to admit large ocean vessels. In the 16th century, William Camden believed that the “London Stone” was a Roman milestone from which all distances were measured in the province. In the 17th century, Christopher Wren was able to observe the foundations of the London Stone underneath Cannon Street during the rebuilding of London after the Great Fire. With this information, it is possible to extend a measuring line from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem to the exact center of ancient London, and by fixing a point on the site of the temple mount, a measuring line extended over Jerusalem to the center of London produces 1,948.40 nautical miles.

Therefore, incredibly, recorded in the earth between the Temple Mount of Jerusalem and the historic center of London is what Flynn sees as the fulfillment of Newton’s own prediction: Israel became a nation again May 14th, 1948, corresponding perfectly to a distance between the temple and London of 1948 nautical miles.

As the reader moves through Temple at the Center of Time, these time-length correlations accumulate quickly, including numerous ancient dates such as 1441 B.C. when the Exodus from Egypt occurred. It turns out is 1,441,000 feet from the Jerusalem Temple to the Great Pyramid in Giza. Flynn finds dozens of other key dates in the past through similar satellite mapping measurements including some related to the United States, Russia and Rome.

Before it is even officially released, Flynn’s book is causing a sensation in some circles where it is being compared to “The Bible Code.”

Today Sept 17th I am adding the following information because some are saying that Flynn never implied a set a date for the end of the world. Obviously WordNetDaily is hyping the 2012-2013 date in order to sell this book. The following quote was taken from the article posted on WND today. The belief that world will end in 2012-2013 is prophetically preposterous.

“But,” says Flynn, “there remains a valid aspect of Newton’s calculation. There is reason to believe he was correct in his assumption that there would be 1,260 years until the return of Christ at the rebirth of the Roman Empire, but that the year he chose was incorrect. There is actually a better date based on the founding of Rome and the methodology of Daniel’s prophecy.”

Flynn explains: “The Romans had fixed the birth of the city of Rome and the Empire in 753 B.C. It was believed that the patriarch of the city, Romulus, had marked out the boundaries for the wall of Rome in this year. Known as Ab Urbe Condita (literally, from the founding of the city) the Roman calendar began with 753 B.C. according to the dating of Marcus Terentius Varro (116–27 B.C.) who lived at the time of the Empire itself.

Because of how the prophet Daniel divided the prophetic week in half, Flynn believes the original founding date for the empire of the prophecy, Rome, would follow this pattern and be bisected. Therefore, correcting Newton’s date, the year 753 B.C. designates the founding of the physical Rome while A.D. 753 establishes the rebirth of spiritual Rome. Counting 1,260 years forward from A.D. 753, one arrives at the year 2013.

Additional significance can be attached to this finding when considering that 2013 follows the end of the great cycle of the Maya calendar and the planetary cycle of the Aztec calendar, which concludes Dec. 21, 2012. This date has raised apocalyptic fears in corners around the world. According to “The Bible Code,” the world will end on this date due to a collision with a meteor, asteroid, or comet. Another theory – the “Novelty Theory” – claims time itself is a “fractal wave,” which will end abruptly in 2012. Even the popular television program X-Files speculated that colonization of the earth by “aliens” would occur in December 2012.

The Maya themselves describe past visits of Quetzalcoatl, the Feathered Serpent, descending through a “hole in the sky” on a rope ladder. They believe at the end of 2012 the serpent rope will emerge again from the center of the Milky Way, and Quetzalcoatl will return, heralding a new era at the start of 2013. Another version of the story has Quetzalcoatl sailing down on a winged ship, causing some to speculate that a UFO armada or “mother ship” could descend and take up position over earth on that date.

Besides this type of speculation, an unusual number of important events will occur beginning in 2012. NASA is predicting the next Solar Maximum will arrive in 2012 and will be the strongest in 50 years. At the same time, the sun will align with the center of the Milky Way for the first time in 26,000 years, on the exact date of the end of the Mayan calendar, Dec. 21, 2012. This will also be the year when the United States and the United Nations elect a new president and a new secretary general, considered by some to be the two most powerful “thrones” on earth, and the seat from which prophecy experts say the Antichrist will rule or receive power.

On a YouTube video here, well-known preacher Jack Van Impe says that the year 2012 and the end of the Mayan Calendar could mark the return of Jesus Christ.

Based on his research into the Jewish Feasts, Pastor Mark Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries (as laid out in a series of two DVD teachings produced by WND Videos called “The Feasts of the Lord”) believes this time frame between 2012-2015 could be prophetic and may signal the return of Christ. He says for people who believe in a “pre-tribulation rapture,” this would make the year 2008 very important. For those who believe in a mid-tribulation rapture, 2012 may mark their departure. And on his website, he adds “if you’re prewrath, then 2014 might be interesting [and] if you’re a posttribber, 2015 is the date to watch for.”

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Is God reproducing Kentucky Fried Chicken in boxes or is this just more Word-Faith Clucking

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For more than thirty years Word-Faith teachers have been making outlandish claims about unverified miracles. So color me skeptical about Marilyn Hickey’s outlandish claims. At least when a miracle is claimed to happen in the Catholic Church they take years investigating it before declaring if it was really a supernatural unexplained event. Nothing of the sort every happens with the Word-Faith crowd.

Who knows where the extra chicken really came from. Was there a second delivery, a mistake, a deliberate deception? Did someone on the staff go out and buy more chicken? (Why not? Many Word-Faith leaders claim they have healed and raised the dead but they never prove anything. Deceptions seems to be the Hallmark of Work-Faith hustlers).

So how about a through independent investigation before you announce to the world that God is reproducing Kentucky Fried Chicken in Boxes? Why is God deep fat frying chicken anyway? Were the people there three days without food and in danger of fainting on the way home because they were too far away from where they could get food? But you already told us that there were Kentucky Fired Chicken concessions in the area. Did You bless the boxes and break it and let his disciples feed the hungry for free and verify to all that Jesus is the bread of life and the Creator or was this just a give me your paid ticket, grab one box and then please leave the room inspired ceremony? So besides the food God also reproduces boxes, spoons, forks and napkins? He is progressing, how convenient.

I find it rather strange that Christian press would just pick this story up without doing any investigative reporting. Is everyone looking for the sensational without checking out the validity of any of it? Does everyone want to take part in the latest mockery of Christianity? Has anyone gone to the Kentucky Fried Chicken vendor employees and asked if they made more than 3,500 Chicken meals? Did you check all vendors in the areas? Did someone pay anyone to lie? Maybe this kind of food is not what these people eat so they returned the boxes to the room. Maybe there were not as many people as was claimed? Maybe an employee was holding back on the chicken and got cold feet and then brought out the rest? Did anyone even count the boxes in the trash? There are dozens of natural explanations and fraudulent explanations. Just to declare it a miracle and expect us to believe it is beyond the pale. Now why would they do that? Well I think we all know. Just look at all the press they are getting.

Now the real press needs to go out and debunk this fraud and after their investigation is complete if it really proves to be some divine miracle I will be the first to eat cro… Kentucky Fried Chicken.

Modern-day loaves-and-fishes miracle reported

A Denver-based Christian ministry claims it witnessed a modern-day loaves-and-and-fishes miracle in Egypt where the 3,500 Kentucky Fried Chicken meals it ordered for conference attendees served more than 5,000 and produced leftovers.

“There were tickets distributed for the lunches,” Hickey said. “The boxes were given out, leaving none in the room.”

But after the food was gone, the crowd swelled to about 5,000, and volunteers returned to the room and were “astonished” to discover 1,200 more lunches.

Hickey reported that after the lunches were handed out, another 1,200 appeared in the room, “leaving a surplus of food and dumbfounded witnesses,” Charisma reported.

Hickey’s staff called the incident during the recent Egypt trip a “loaves and fishes” miracle, the report said, after Jesus’ miracle in the New Testament in which a small boy’s lunch of loaves and fishes fed thousands.

Hickey told the publication she feels confident in proclaiming the event as a miracle because independent Egyptian and non-Christian sources verified the unexplained appearance of the lunches.

“It happened in such a way that [my ministry] was not at all associated with it, which left local volunteers and non-Christians marveling at what had happened,” she told Charisma.

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Georgia on my mind

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The Georgian’s are not in a good position. The U.S. really cannot help them. Geographically they simply live where Russia is going to do what they want. In the end I think they are going to have to realize that Russia has annexed their province and to fight them will turn out to be suicide. They better now hope the Russian’s don’t use this war as an excuse to re-annex all of Georgia. All of this of course will further deteriorate Russia’s relations with the U.S. Other former USSR countries have similar problems and might have similar fates they also have geographical areas in their sovereign nations that are now mostly populated by Russians.

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Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili is expected to declare martial law within hours, according to the Georgian security council chief, Reuters reported.

This comes after Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called on Russia Friday to halt attacks in South Ossetia, after Georgian troops entered the breakaway province in an attempt to crush separatist forces seeking control.

Rice’s announcement came as the European Union was working on a cease-fire with Georgia and South Ossetia separatists to end the violent conflict.

Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, launched a surprise military offensive to retake South Ossetia and reportedly killed hundreds of people, triggering a ferocious counterattack from Russia that threatened to plunge the region into full-scale war.

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Four aircraft carrier groups in the gulf area could mean a strike on Iran is imminent

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This report by Kuwait Times that two additional aircraft carrier groups are heading toward the gulf could be very important because the U.S. would insist on having four aircraft carrier groups in that area before it would give Israel any green light to strike Iran. The same is true if the U.S. decided to strike Iran itself.

If this report is true figure that it will take about a month to get all the ships in place and ready for action. So nothing will happen before early September but like I said before an attack in late September to early October makes more political sense than after the election if it looks like Obama might win. It should be very interesting that two additional carrier groups have been reported to be heading that way to fit the timing of a pre U.S. election strike.

When you actually see four carrier groups in the Gulf and Red Sea, it could mean a strike on Iran is imminent. The U.S. would not allow Israel to strike Iran without first having adequate air power in place.

‘2 US aircraft carriers headed for Gulf’ | Jerusalem Post

Two additional United States naval aircraft carriers are heading to the Gulf and the Red Sea, according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Kuwait Times.

Kuwait began finalizing its “emergency war plan” on being told the vessels were bound for the region.

The US Navy would neither confirm nor deny that carriers were en route. US Fifth Fleet Combined Maritime Command located in Bahrain said it could not comment due to what a spokesman termed “force-protection policy.”

While the Kuwaiti daily did not name the ships it believed were heading for the Middle East, The Media Line’s defense analyst said they could be the USS Theodore Roosevelt and the USS Ronald Reagan.

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Should we vote for the lessor of the two evils or lose the country?

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Geoff Metcalf thinks we need to vote for the lessor of the two evils. He is correct that we cannot just throw a switch and return to constitutional government. Some people just do not live in reality. The liberals have been taking this country for a long time by incrementation. I guess constitutionalists will have to take back the country back little by little as well if that is possible. If not, I ask you what is the alternative outside of civil war and a break up of the Union?

When 50 percent of the people in the United States will vote for Obama, socialism and the amorality of the Democratic Party we are obviously a nation on the brink of change. So do Bible believing Christians attempt to hold high ground and try to fight another day by electing the lessor evil or do we just throw in the towel and let the party of Obama, Polosi and Reed totally control the country and change America into the Peoples Republic of Amerika?

After four years of those people in power there will be no going back because they will have changed the rules and free speech and free press will not exist. On the one hand, it is going to happen sooner or later anyway if our moral slide continues. On the other hand, voting for the lessor evil might give some people in the U.S. four years to regain their minds. That is choice to make this year.

Geoff Metcalf — Defending the Indefensible

By Geoff Metcalf

August 6, 2008

NewsWithViews.com

“Logical consequences are the scarecrows of fools and the beacons of wise men.” –Thomas Henry Huxley

I was flooded with excoriating email in the wake of my suggestion we are compelled to accept the lesser of available evils and vote McCain.

It was bad enough I wrote it, and meant what I wrote, but various editors changed the original headline (‘Reluctantly Responsible’) to make my sins appear even more heinous.

Fans of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr all argue for ‘their’ guy being the solution to the cancer eating away at the GOP and the republic. If only that were true…

Many of the more abusive emails sounded a lot like reading Geoff Metcalf (circa ‘91/’98/’2000/and even 2004). I have been called a very comprehensive variety of nasty names and had my intelligence, insight, manhood and patriotism challenged.

I understand the vitriol and the frustration and the primary counter to my column. Frankly, I wrote much of the same during the Dole/Clinton election. I even quoted Aaron Tippin and Buddy Brock, “You’ve got to stand for something or you’ll fall for anything”

The republic has been eviscerated over time by chronic liberal incrementalism. It is politically impossible to restore the republic to a pre 1913 or pre 1865 condition with the flick of a light switch. Critics will attack me for endorsing ‘evil-lite’…and they are right. However, the incremental objectives should be to get evil-lite lighter and lighter.

Principles do matter. However, when faced with bad weather, bad terrain, superior enemy forces and inadequate logistics, it is not an abandonment of principle to change strategy and tactics.

Despite the flood of protestations to the contrary, MY principles are not compromised. MY beliefs are not abandoned, and MY recognition of the desperate need to restore the republic to the framers model as an imperative is not shaken.

However, reality cannot be ignored. Hate it, revile it, refute it, and make believe it ain’t so, but it WILL happen. Either John McCain or Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States.

I also asked Novak how do you counter the apparent and ubiquitous media bias against almost any (real) Republican idea?

He said, “The problem is not that the media beats-up on the conservatives but that the conservatives are so weak-kneed and indecisive, retreating in short-order whenever someone turns on them.”

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When will we believe acts of God are acts of God?

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Is America now under judgment? When are acts of God acts of God? Has America done anything worthy of judgment? You be the judge.

  • So far this year we are involved in two foreign wars with another war being a distinct possibility.
  • We have had unprecedented numbers of tornadoes.
  • The Mid-West floods have been catastrophic.
  • More of California has burned this year then in any year in history and the fires are still burning with a fire season that still has a long way to go

On the Economic Front.

  • Falling Real estate values have caused the greatest financial crises since the great depression.
  • Tens of millions are losing equity in there homes, millions are losing their homes.
  • The stock market is down 20 percent and pension funds and insurance will also lose at least that much value.
  • Banks, brokerage firms and corporations are failing and need to be bailed out by the government.
  • The U.S. dollar is the weakest it has been in modern times.
  • Gasoline prices are four times what they were a few years ago.
  • Heating bills will be much higher this winter.
  • All electric bills are about to shoot up about twenty percent in one year.
  • Food prices are up 10 to 20 percent this year.
  • Inflation across the board is the worst in years and most of the costs have not even been passed through yet.
  • Services in the U.S. are becoming unreliable.
  • Unemployment is on the rise and it is going to get much higher.
  • Due to falling revenues state and local governments are going to run into major deficit problems

Crime and amorality

  • Gangs have taken over much of our inner cities.
  • Drug trafficking is epidemic.
  • Illegal drugs are used by a very large percentage of our population.
  • 2.2 million people are in prison in this nation. This is the highest incarceration rate in the world.
  • There are 10 to 20 million people in this country illegally.
  • One in four adults in the U.S. has a VD. Homosexual males have a ten year shorter life span, yet, the pushing of homosexuality and sexual promiscuity is all over the media and sexual perversion is taught in our schools as normal healthy lifestyles and this is forced on suggestible children.
  • Homosexual marriage is now legal in two states.
  • There have been 50 million abortions in the U.S. and taxpayers in one way or another are paying much of the cost. Much of the black population in the U.S. is being aborted but most black leaders keep promoting it.
  • Scams and rip-off schemes are epidemic especially on the Internet.

Politics.

  • Congress has a nine percent approval rating.
  • Judges are legislating law from the bench contrary to the Constitution.
  • Special interest groups control almost all politicians and it is now almost impossible to get incumbents out of office.
  • Thanks to the voters we have two choices for the President that want more globalism and more socialism. Both will bring in a liberal supreme court. Both will pass hate speech laws that will negatively impact Christians.

Religion.

  • A generation of seeker friendly services has watered down much of what is left of Evangelical Christianity.
  • The Emergent movement is redefining biblical truths and downplaying biblical doctrine.
  • Most claiming to be Christians are biblically illiterate not having read through the Bible even once in their lives, far less have understanding of the passages in context.
  • People flaunting their sins are put in church leadership roles.
  • Psychology theories originated from the occult have corrupted much Christian counseling and other programs.
  • New Age pagan thought is now all over the media and is being accepted by many claiming to be Christians.
  • Much of the youth is leaving Christianity for postmodern relativism

If God were to continue judging this nation what might our immediate future hold?

  • The economy would continue to decline.
  • Hyperinflation is a very real possibility.
  • Unemployment may become a very serious issue.
  • There could be much greater weather related storms, droughts and crop failures.
  • Major earthquakes would become likely.
  • Major volcanic activity is certainly possible.
  • Leadership in government could continue to get worse (even lower then scraping the bottom).
  • Terrorist attacks would become likely.
  • Hate speech laws will be passed and constitutional freedoms will be redefined by the courts. Government tyranny will become a major issue.
  • A nuclear electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack may happen. It would leave the nation helpless without electric for months or years. (This would be the ultimate judgment it would most likely bring the complete collapse of our society).
  • The complete collapse of our economic system is possible.
  • Collapse of our social system and declining into anarchy is possible.
  • The break up of the Union is possible.

The Bible says the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Don’t you think it would be wise for people in this nation to fear the Lord instead of Him having to send correction because we will not do what is right?

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China’s missing women reveal the end of the age.

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There is going to be a documentary on HBO on Monday July 16th about China’s holocaust.

Let we just offer some thoughts while that critical world issue is on my mind. You can also find this and similar information on my website. (World trends section)

I have been saying that the male female imbalance in China, India and other Far East countries will make up much of the 200 million man army mentioned by Revelation that is prepared for a hour, day, a month, and a year to destroy one third of men on the earth. That army is this one and it will peak in about 25 years.

I say that because the first men of this surplus were born thirty years ago so they will be over 55 and become to old for the army by 2033. China also plans to stop this sex-selection imbalance by 2010. So the surplus male babies will be old enough for this army after 2025. So somewhere between 2025 and 2033 I expect this prophetic war but I also expect it to be when the surplus of men of fighting age peaks. So this means it will probably be closer to 2030-2033.

Also remember they come toward the end of the tribulation so just on this one prophetic event alone it looks like we have only about 15 years until the start of the seventy week of Daniel. I am one of the few that suspects the first seals and the rapture occur a few years before the seventy week because I think the Jews will fulfill it and that it actually starts with the sealing of the 144,000 Jews for their end time commission to preach the gospel of the coming kingdom as a witness. Then the end will come.

All other world trends that I document on my website link above points to the same time period. So expect the next decade to set the stage for all the events of the 70th week of Daniel that will be actually fulfilled in the 2022-2033 period. With that in mind time is getting very short because the rapture, the ride of the four horsemen, the coming persecution at the fifth seal could actually start in a decade.

Look at the world today in any direction that it is heading and you should see these things cannot go on!

China’s continuing 1-child holocaust documented

China’s coercive one-child policy has resulted in sex-selection abortions of some 40 million baby girls and leads to about 70,000 children being sold every year, reveals a new undercover documentary to be shown on HBO next Monday.

“China’s Stolen Children,” narrated by Ben Kingsley, was made by filmmakers posing as tourists and tells of the after-effects of the country’s strict population-control limit of one child per couple through the personal stories of several families.

Headed into its 30th year, the one-child policy is characterized as “the world’s largest experiment in social engineering.” It focuses on the plight of children sold out of fear of government punishment or stolen because of the nation’s unnatural shortage of offspring.

Because of the Chinese government’s obsession with being accepted as a member of the community of civilized nations, Beijing is portrayed as more interested in covering up the epidemic of child theft than in addressing the problem.

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Giving a ray of comfort to Word Faith teachers

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In this article Ken Silva gives his views why Ray Comfort should not speak on the same platform of these Word Faith Wolves. I also read Ray Comfort’s points of view as well as another view. Ray basically says he would preach the gospel anywhere (and Ray it is not just their prosperity message that is heretical). Saying your going to preach the gospel sounds good but often life is not that simple. Preaching the gospel and having your name being used to promote a different gospel could be two different things.

Would Paul go to a Gnostic convention to preach the gospel knowing that they wanted to use his name to promote lying Gnosticism? Would he stand with them and not condemn the things they said that were contrary to the truth? You know he would not.

I knew and still know some word of faith people. They know the gospel that Ray preaches so they already heard the salvation message. The problem is not that they have not heard the gospel of salvation the problem with Word Faith is that they add their own pet heresies to the gospel. They go beyond what the scripture says and twist the scriptures for their own ends. So Ray do you really want to follow John Avanzini after he gives his hundred fold blessing message and act as if you did not hear his heretical insanity? If Todd Bentley were there would you follow the Todd Bentley Bam Bam Bam show with guest appearance by his “angel” Emma?

Much the same can be said about following the messages of the other World Faith specialists. Yeah, they have well known specialists. Everyone specializes in their own narrow area of fame and they parade their services for sale like like some side show of freaks at a carnival. I suspect they think you want to do the same in your area of expertise. After all, someone must give something that sounds like a legitimate Christian message of salvation to validate the whole carnival act. God forbid if you actually tried to correct God’s anointed.

Well that’s my two cents worth, read Ken Silva’s view.

Ray Comfort Should Not Share The Platform With Word Faith Wolves - CWN

What is at issue however is Comfort sharing the platform next week at the Inspiring Excellence conference (IEC) with John Avanzini, Jesse Duplantis and Rod Parsley among others. [1] No one can correctly say that any of those men preach the historic orthodox Christian faith. Rather, each is clearly aligned with the cult of the Word Faith movement. And as brothers and sisters in Christ we should be able to discuss issues like this without it wrongly being perceived as an attack upon Ray Comfort himself.

If this was the first time that Comfort had been publicly yoked with these men by sharing their platform with them that would be another matter entirely; but this will be the third time he is involved with IEC. The facts show that Ray Comfort spoke at this conference in July of 2005, as did Avanzini and Duplantis, along with Word Faith cult leader Kenneth Copeland. [2] In addition Ray was also a “Special Speaker” in 2007. [3]

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