A critique of the book “Isralestine” that suggests that the war of Psalm 83 is imminent

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Is the war of Psalm 83 and a enlarged Israel imminent as in the book “Isralestine”?
One of the great mysteries for those who study Bible prophecy is the timing of the wars mentioned in Psalm 83 and the war described in Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39. They are obviously different wars but which war occurs first and when? Are they pretribulational wars or tribulation wars? How can Israel be living in peace and security prior to the Ezekiel war as the prophecy clearly indicates? That is the ongoing debate.

Bill Salus in his book “Isralestine” offers a solution but the thesis is very difficult to accept in light of real world realities but that does not mean the thesis he offers based on his selection and interpretation of certain scriptures is wrong. I have had a very difficult time reconciling the issues in his book and think that you really need to read the book and judge the merit of this hypothesis for yourselves and not just rely on my review.

The thesis of the book is that the war of Psalm 83 is imminent. It occurs before the tribulation. The war brings about the defeat of the Arab nations and it allows a very large territorial expansion of Israel into the Arab states by conquest. After the war of Psalm 83 the greatly expanded Israel then lives in peace and security until the war of Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 where Gog (Russia) comes against Israel with Iran and other allies. At that time God intervenes for Israel and Israel expands to the entire land area promised to Abraham. Bill Salus also believes the Ezekiel war is before the “Day of the Lord” and that the rapture could be before or after the war of Psalm 83 but will be before the “Day of the Lord”.

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Rapture Ready Bible prophecy website back in the national news

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It is nice to see Todd Strandberg and Terry James Rapture Ready website make the national media again. All the exposure helps to get the message out about Bible prophecy and that we are very near the prophetic end times on earth. If you have not visited the site I highly recommend it. For years RaptureReady has been the top Bible prophecy website in the world and I still very much appreciate the link they have up to my website.

Rapture: Distress about wars and the world economy feed apocalyptic warnings - Salt Lake Tribune

Strandberg, founder and editor of raptureready.com, the largest Christian prophecy site on the Internet, spends his days linking current events with biblical passages. He created a Rapture Index, modeled after the Dow Jones Industrial Average, which consists of 45 categories of prophetic indicators from the occult to inflation and the crime rate. Each is assigned a value of one to five depending on the level of activity in that category. The numbers are adjusted weekly, and the higher the number, the faster the world is moving toward its end. Just before the time known as the Great Tribulation, some believe there will be a “Rapture,” where Christ takes the righteous to heaven without their tasting death.
In recent weeks, traffic on Rapture Ready site spiked to 50,000 hits a day.

In his 22 years working on Rapture Ready, Strandberg has seen an “avalanche” of anti-Christ suggestions, including Tony Blair and Bill Clinton. Obama doesn’t fit the bill, he says, but he could be a type of “anti-Christ,” which simply means too many people see him as a replacement for Jesus.
Still, Strandberg believes the end is at hand and Jesus’ Second Coming will surprise everyone, coming as “a thief in the night,” according to the Bible, but close observers will at least know “the season.”
He points to tensions between Israel and Iran, Russia’s invasion of Georgia, and the possibility of global depression as some of the top indicators.
“We are one big event from triggering a cascade that will not stop,” he says. “There are so many indicators that are active. It’s like an overhang of snow on a mountain top. Cracks are forming on the ridge and once the ridge breaks free, it will tumble down the mountain and nothing can stop it.”

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The Bailouts are part of a conspiracy leading to the Beast economic system?

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The bailouts may bring us one step closer to the one world Beast economic system but there are some things said in this article that quite frankly make unfounded innuendos about people in our government and in the financial management of our money that are just not appropriate.

The article seems to paint that since the great depression we have been control by a worldwide conspiracy that is deliberately leading us to the Mark of the Beast system. There is no such conspiracy there is no such evil cabal of men. What is happening is the inevitable results of man’s mismanagement of the world’s economic systems. Man is designed to organize and manage things on the earth and anywhere you have civilization management is going to take place. Otherwise you have anarchy.

Because of the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life one thing man does always leads to another. He overspends and goes into debt (the borrower will be the slave of the lender) so he becomes enslaved by the lenders through his own debt to them. The lenders are people of the same nature and they do the same thing and end up being the slaves of those with more money etc., soon everyone is owing more than they can pay and the debts have to wiped clean or the whole system collapses. That is where the U.S. is at now.

God had a way to deal with that weakness in man in the law. There was a Jubilee every fifty years where everyone’s debts were wiped out and they were to start afresh. We of course do not do what God instructed Israel to do in the law so we just keep piling up debt until the system has to collapse. When the latest modern collapse of the monetary system takes place the world elite will not want to make the same mistakes again so they will create the best system they can with the tools that they have available. In the future that means RFID tags, embedded chips and a secure worldwide economic system.

it is not really a sinister conspiracy plot as some try to sell. If man could actually manage his own sin on earth he would not need bailing out by a Savior. In addition, as long as the Church is here to be salt and light things on earth may get bad but they are not going to get totally out of control. It is only after the restrainer is taken out of the way and Satan is cast out of Heaven that the Beast system takes control of the inevitable world electronic economic system. Before Satan and his angels are cast out of heaven there are no restrictions on taking part in any of this. The electronic system only becomes sinister after the angels are cast out unto the earth and force people to take the mark and worship the Beast in order to buy or sell. Only when Satan has control of the whole earth does world electronic banking fulfill Bible prophecy.

Let’s not put the cart before the horse here and think that Satan actually can do anything he wants now, he cannot. He answers to God and only in the last 42 months does God give Satan free reign on earth in order for him to deceive those who would not have Jesus rule over them.

This article also jumps to the conclusion that Americans have lost control of their destiny. Did we ever have control of our own destiny? Not only that, the U.S. is only one nation on the earth. Believe it or not, everything is not about America.

America + decline does not = end of world, as some like to think.

America is not in Bible prophecy and that most likely is because America is not a major factor in the world during end time events. Nations have risen and fallen in the past and the Beast never rose to power because of it. Will the Beast come to power now because of U.S. economic troubles? If he does it will not be because America falls but because true Christian’s rise (Rapture) and Satan falls (to the earth).

There simply is something missing in the logic of those who love these ongoing conspiracy themes. I know saying that will not be popular with those who see demonic cabals everywhere, or the end of the world every Feast of Trumpets. The truth is that the Rapture is not likely to occur on the Feast of Trumpets this year and it probably will not come on the next or the next. The Rapture does not have to occur on the Feast of Trumpets at all despite all the Internet speculations. The Church is not Israel.

Events will go on until the time set by the Father and some Christians just need to get used to that fact and stop looking for some magic formula so they can scare their friends with their new found revelations. They need to stop blaming all the inevitable problems caused by man as proof text that the end will be here in 2012.

It is always getting closer to the end but there is no conspiracy of demon possessed men running the earth. They could not get along with each other if there were. We cannot even get the Pastors and deacons of our churches on the same page and we are led by the Holy Spirit. How in the world then does Satan get his possessed and his also possessed to see eye to eye on anything?

Then you wonder why some Christians get upset with those who spend all their time trying to figure out the timing of the Rapture and the second coming instead of using their gifts for the Church and working to get people saved? In my experience half the people coming up with these dates and theories do not even attend a local church.

Don’t get me wrong, I teach Bible prophecy and I think the Lord is coming in the lifetime of most of the people reading this article but much of what is being said lately in the name of Bible prophecy really are pagan theories with Bible terminology. I guess I am now in big trouble with some of you. Please spare me the email because when I do not see things your way you send me insults. I really do have better things to waste my time on. I get a little tired of unsolicited emails from those who just have to get me to agree with their conspiracies or agree that they know the day or dates of the Rapture or second coming. Almost always after a half dozen exchanges the only thing accomplished is wasted time.

But I digress, what the big bailout means is that most of us are too greedy and we spend far more than we have and we are so far in debt that we can never pay it back. We buy houses we cannot afford betting on them to rise in value ten percent a year and we expect our mutual fund managers to keep giving us ten percent returns on our investment when they can only safely give us five. We knew that they were gambling with our investments but we thought that everything keeps going up and that they were too smart to lose. Well, they did lose, and there will be a bailout by us or there will be a depression. There also will be more bailouts by us until the world decides it does not want to bail out America anymore. When that happen we are going to lose more than you can imagine.

That is really what all the bailouts mean. It is not some dark conspiracy by satanic bankers to take over the world it is our own enslavement to debt!

What the big bailout means

Do you think it’s an accident?

Do you think it’s just a case of bad management?

Do you think the proposed $700 billion taxpayer bailout of U.S. financial institutions just happened?

I don’t think so.

In fact, I think it’s part of a master plan – one pushing us inevitably, inexorably closer to a closed cashless global economic system of total control.

I know. This seems like an extreme statement. It sounds like I’ve drunk deep of the conspiracy Kool-Aid. But let’s take a look at history.

Americans have lost control of their own destiny. Elections don’t mean much. Congressional debates are illusory. We are on a path to tyranny. Neither Barack Obama nor John McCain is going to stop it. Neither a Republican Congress nor a Democratic Congress is likely to slow it down.

Most Americans seem ill-equipped to understand what’s happening or to comprehend the forces at work behind it. They seem more concerned with their basic needs and material pleasures than the fact that they are losing their birthright of self-government and individual freedom – that their children will never experience the promises of the Constitution.

What just happened? To simplify it, the government just got a lot bigger and more powerful, which means another nail was just hammered into the coffin of American liberty. And, in one of the largest wealth transfer schemes in history, a few wealthy and powerful individuals just got wealthier and more powerful – at your expense.

But this is not the end. This is not the final fix. This is not the final solution – not by a long shot. There will be more consolidations of power and money. There will be more “reforms.” There will be more regulations, more restrictions on the way you conduct your affairs, more centralization and control.

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China’s missing women reveal the end of the age.

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There is going to be a documentary on HBO on Monday July 16th about China’s holocaust.

Let we just offer some thoughts while that critical world issue is on my mind. You can also find this and similar information on my website. (World trends section)

I have been saying that the male female imbalance in China, India and other Far East countries will make up much of the 200 million man army mentioned by Revelation that is prepared for a hour, day, a month, and a year to destroy one third of men on the earth. That army is this one and it will peak in about 25 years.

I say that because the first men of this surplus were born thirty years ago so they will be over 55 and become to old for the army by 2033. China also plans to stop this sex-selection imbalance by 2010. So the surplus male babies will be old enough for this army after 2025. So somewhere between 2025 and 2033 I expect this prophetic war but I also expect it to be when the surplus of men of fighting age peaks. So this means it will probably be closer to 2030-2033.

Also remember they come toward the end of the tribulation so just on this one prophetic event alone it looks like we have only about 15 years until the start of the seventy week of Daniel. I am one of the few that suspects the first seals and the rapture occur a few years before the seventy week because I think the Jews will fulfill it and that it actually starts with the sealing of the 144,000 Jews for their end time commission to preach the gospel of the coming kingdom as a witness. Then the end will come.

All other world trends that I document on my website link above points to the same time period. So expect the next decade to set the stage for all the events of the 70th week of Daniel that will be actually fulfilled in the 2022-2033 period. With that in mind time is getting very short because the rapture, the ride of the four horsemen, the coming persecution at the fifth seal could actually start in a decade.

Look at the world today in any direction that it is heading and you should see these things cannot go on!

China’s continuing 1-child holocaust documented

China’s coercive one-child policy has resulted in sex-selection abortions of some 40 million baby girls and leads to about 70,000 children being sold every year, reveals a new undercover documentary to be shown on HBO next Monday.

“China’s Stolen Children,” narrated by Ben Kingsley, was made by filmmakers posing as tourists and tells of the after-effects of the country’s strict population-control limit of one child per couple through the personal stories of several families.

Headed into its 30th year, the one-child policy is characterized as “the world’s largest experiment in social engineering.” It focuses on the plight of children sold out of fear of government punishment or stolen because of the nation’s unnatural shortage of offspring.

Because of the Chinese government’s obsession with being accepted as a member of the community of civilized nations, Beijing is portrayed as more interested in covering up the epidemic of child theft than in addressing the problem.

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The time of Jacob’s trouble and then the birth of the kingdom

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Since Hal Lindsey has been saying this for forty years now it has been false labor pains. Yet, today stresses in the earth do seem to be increasing and wars and famines are certainly on the horizon. So it looks like it won’t be long now to the time of Jacob’s trouble and the birth of the promised kingdom.

Last-days ‘birth pains’ have begun

Jesus used a Greek word for the labor pains of a woman about to give birth. Jesus knew that every generation could understand the illustration. His meaning is clear. Just as a woman experiences birth pains that increase in frequency and intensity just before giving birth, so ALL the signs of His return would increase in frequency and intensity just before His return. Hey, for he first time in history, all of the signs have appeared together in the same time frame and are increasing in frequency and intensity. That, coupled with the fulfillment of the great predicted sign that Israel became a nation again after 2,000 hopeless years of worldwide dispersion, indicates that Jesus Christ is already at the door ready to return. Are you ready?

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Eclipses fulfilling Joel and the second coming in 2015?

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Just more speculative nonsense of trying to force events to fit prophecy. J.R. Church also wrote a book called prophecy in the Psalms where each first hundred psalms was supposed to be a year in the 20th century. Well it was total nonsense and what he wrote never happened. Yet, last I seen he still had the gall to keep selling this book.

When Jesus was talking about the sun turning dark and the moon becoming like blood it is highly unlikely that He was talking about solar/lunar eclipses. What Jesus and the prophets said was in conjunction with other very evident upheavals going on in the earth. The blood red moon events are possibly caused by a comet interacting with the earth since stars also fall from heaven at that time. I guess there is no rapture either in this speculation or it will take place this year. Don’t hold your breath or sell out and wait on some mountain top.
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Blood moon eclipses: 2nd Coming in 2015?

Will Jesus Christ return to Earth in the year 2015?

And can studying NASA’s website provide evidence for such a scenario?

A minister who promotes the Old Testament roots of Christianity suggests a rare string of lunar and solar eclipses said to fall on God’s annual holy days seven years from now could herald what’s come to be known as the “Second Coming” of Jesus.

Biltz says, “You have the religious year beginning with the total solar eclipse, two weeks later a total lunar eclipse on Passover, and then the civil year beginning with the solar eclipse followed two weeks later by another total blood red moon on the Feast of Succoth all in 2015.”

“If you think that this is a coincidence, I want you to know that it’s time!” exclaimed Prophecy in the News host J.R. Church. “There are no more of these for the rest of the century.”

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The New Age plan to kill Christians and Jews for the sake of the world community.

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Make no mistake about it Oprah and Tolle are setting the foundation for the coming persecution of true believers in Jesus Christ and Jehovah. Their satanic religion promotes the removing of all those who will not become part of the One universal consciousness. They will intend to kill us for the sake of their satanically inspired community and think they will be doing us and the world community a favor by doing so.

This teaching is not new. It has always been the teaching of New Age for many decades. Tolle and Oprah have just used their influence to popularize it under a new cover. It has always been their answer for any Rapture as well. They will say the collective mind just removed the “Neanderthals” from the earth so the “spiritually enlightened” could evolve into a higher consciousness and bring utopia on the earth.

There will soon come a day soon when those deceived by people like Oprah and Tolle will get to carry out their plan. If you look at all of what else is going on globally to set the stage for these global agendas you should understand that it it will all happen in the lifespan of this generation.

‘Does Winfrey Ride The Beast?’ - Frederick Meekins - Apr 25, 08

More importantly, by undermining individuality as in the case of Hinduistic New Age spirituality (atman is brahman) by claming that we are just a temporary cellular manifestation of the One Consciousness, when the time comes those accustomed to this mindset won’t have all that much of a problem with mass roundups and ultimately executions of those doing nothing more that questioning the worldview of those holding power. After all, one does not lament the removal of an infected hangnail or the cutting of hair since such an act benefits the overall body — or as in the case of the global community — the One Consciousness as Tolle calls it.

Such wayward intellects, according to Tolle, have failed to evolve to the point of enlightenment and “identify only with their own physical and psychological form”. Thus, for the sake of the COMMUNITY, it is imperative that such impediments be removed. Besides, doing such really wouldn’t be wrong (a concept itself outdated and bigoted since transcendent absolute standards don’t exist anyway) since distinct individuals don’t really exist and by hastening their return to the universal consciousness one may in fact be doing them a favor by expediting them onwards towards their next incarnation.

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We are not the prodigal nation and belief in the Rapture is not the problem

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Dave Daubenmire obviously too often listens to people who do not know what they are talking about.

I emailed Dave the last time he made this ridiculous assertion that the Church is sitting around doing nothing waiting for the Rapture. Obviously what I said to him did not sink in so now I will say it publicly since he makes his ridiculous assertion publicly.

Most of the Church could care less about the Rapture and it certainly is not obsessed with end-time prophecy. As I told Dave before almost nobody is teaching it anymore. The few churches that are, are probably the churches that are actually doing something spiritual in this nation.

We who believe in the Rapture and the soon return of Jesus Christ are not paralyzed by Last-Days madness anymore than any other Spirit filled believers are. You insult the Holy Spirit that works through all His people. You obviously listen too much to heretical dominionists who think the world is not Christianized because the church is failing. The world is failing by rejecting the teaching of the Church. That is not the fault of the Church. Most of the world is pagan because it does not accept the Gospel rather than not heard it.

Part of your problem is that you cannot discern between cultural Christians in this nation and the real Church. You act as if America was and is a Christian nation and all that the Christians have to do is get off their duff like the prodigal Son, return to God and take this nation back for Christ. The Church you imagine in America did not exist and it does not exist. The real Church in this nation has always been a minority and it has always been working for Christ.

You expect a “Christian” people that does not exist in America to suddenly see the light and act like Christians because you rail against them? You are not living in reality.

Dave, you have some wise things to tell Americans about what they need to do to save this nation. But, don’t confuse instructing Americans to return to Christian moral values with telling Americans that most of them are lazy Christians who need to repent from some end-time madness of looking for the Rapture. It is not happening. It is a false argument. It is counterproductive and it is stupid.

Most Americans are pagans that need to be saved but can’t be saved. Most reject the only message that can save them because they love their sins and want to believe a lie.

As for your “heal our land” statement out of Malachi. That promise in context was clearly made to physical Israel and applies to physical Israel. Last I heard we are America. There is no promise to Christians in other nations that if they humble themselves and pray that God will heal their pagan land. Try preaching that nonsense to the persecuted church in China. The promise of restoration is to the land of Israel. You like many just like to take promises to Israel out of context and make them yours but then your promises just become presumptions. America is not the promised land.

Dave, Get a grip!

Dave Daubenmire — The Prodigal Nation

What type of leadership burns our food?

The American Church is paralyzed by what Gary DeMar calls “Last-Days Madness.” In a nutshell, the modern American Church has become so obsessed with End-Time prophecy that Christians have ceased to be the “salt and light” that Christ has commanded us to be. Convinced that things are “only going to get worse” Christians have neglected Jesus’ mandate to “Occupy until I return and have instead turned the gates of authority over to the enemies of the cross.

“Worse is better!” I heard one Christian-radio pundit say. “As things get worse that means the return of the Lord is near.”

What hogwash! Is the Lord glorified by the multiplication of evil? “Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on Earth…” Did Jesus pray against His own will?

I don’t want to turn this into a theological discussion and get us all wrapped in the minutia of fig trees and famines. For the Lord’s sake, man, STAND UP AND FIGHT!

I have often wondered what America would look like if the Church believed in revival as much as it believed in the rapture.

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The intolerant U.N. principles of tolerance will come to the U.S.

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So according to this those who believe in the rapture and take the book of Revelation literally are extremists. Yep, I qualify.

So do the Christians in China that teach the second coming of Jesus. These are the Christians the Chinese Communists are persecuting. What is happening in China and proposed in the UN is a foretaste of what will happen when we are agree to these Global treaties.

If you want to know what is going to happen in the U.S. under all three socialists that are running for president just read the article below. Under the UN principles of tolerance that we will agree to abide by under any one of these people, preaching the truths of Christianity will be hate speech and it will be against the law.

So you should see how close we are to the start of religious persecution in the United States. We are only one Liberal government away from signing on to these UN tolerance principles that is totally intolerant of Christian truth.

The election choice for next year will be to live in an ObamaNation or, to live under the Clintonists, or to put the Mac of Cain on us. Any of these choices will hasten the fascist anti-Christian tyranny that is coming. It is coming sooner than most think.

United Nations Declaration of Principles on Tolerance Really Means Intolerance Toward Christians - CWN

Read some of the highlights of the UN Declaration of Principles on Tolerance in light of the recent comments by Karen Armstrong of the United Nations Alliance of Civilizations who said that people that believe in the rapture and take the book of Revelation literally are “extremists”.Here are some of the major points of The Declaration of Principles on Tolerance:

· “Tolerance is respect, acceptance and appreciation of the rich diversity of our world’s cultures It is not only a moral duty, it is also a political and legal requirement.”

· “Tolerance involves the rejection of dogmatism and absolutism.” [Biblical truth?]

· “Tolerance… means that one’s views are not to be imposed on others.” [Would this end freedom to share the gospel with others? Could the UN still share its views?]

· “Intolerance… is a global threat.”

· “Scientific studies and networking should be undertaken to coordinate the international community’s response to this global challenge, including analysis of root causes and effective countermeasures, as well as research and monitoring… ”

· “Tolerance promotion and the shaping of attitudes of openness, mutual listening and solidarity should take place in schools and universities, and through non-formal education… at home and in the workplace.”

· “Promote rational tolerance teaching methods that will address the cultural, social, economic, political and religious sources of intolerance– major roots of violence and exclusion.

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2008 Finger lakes Bible conference with Chuck Missler and Dave Hunt

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I was at a small Bible prophecy conference for the last few days. The conference speakers were Chuck Missler, Dave Hunt, Bill Gallatin and Amir Tsarfati.

I guess the theme of the conference was upping the bar because we are getting very close to the rapture.

Amir Tsarfati is from Israel and is a very engaging speaker. If you every get a chance to listen to him do so. He gave us the latest in Israel which really was not news to me since I keep up on these things. He feels the present government of Israel will fall around the end of this month. He sees all the pieces of the puzzle almost in place for the Ezekiel 38 scenario. He also thinks there will be an attack on Iran within months and that Damascus will be destroyed shortly.

Bill Gallation’s message was mainly one of exhortation to the church to do the work of God while we still have time. He also made it clear that he thought America would soon be judged.

Dave Hunt talked mostly about the “New Atheists” that are very evil and are now on a crusade against all religion. Dave is recovering from hip surgery and is getting quite elderly. He was kind of scattered at the conference. It could be medication he is on or it just might be that old age is catching up with him. He said he has to do three debates against top scholars within a week. I simply do not see Dave being very effective in these debates if he performed like he did at the conference. I think Dave needs our prayers that God will strengthen this great defender of the faith.

I am a great Church Missler fan but Chuck Missler was a let down for me. He just did the same 10 year old material at the conference. It was about the same stuff you would get from his through the Bible in 24 hours series. He seemed to be there more to sell his material than to give us any new insights on Bible prophecy.

Missler started his own Internet Bible institute where if you buy his material and do a small amount of interaction and pass a multiple guess test you can get credit for completing the course. He presently has three levels of achievement: bronze, silver and gold. He claims that up to half his credits can be transfer to a certain Internet correspondence University and be used toward a bachelor, masters or PHD program. My problem with that is that a degree from Universities like this is probably useless in the real world anyway. So what it comes down to for me is that you end up paying twice as much for Chuck Mislers MP3’s so you can hang a ridiculous huge Medellin around your neck. Chuck was wearing his Gold around his neck for the entire conference.

So far there has been a couple of hundred people who have completed the Bronze course. Chuck was asked but did not indicate that there were any who have made it to Gold yet, although he did say that dozens were given honorary Gold.

I guess there are several motivations for this institute. Chuck feels the church is ignorant on the Bible and what is going on in the world and needs educating. I would agree with him on that point but usually those going to Bible prophecy conferences are not the ones that need to be targeted.

Chuck also feels the Church will soon need to go underground and the best way to do this is to use Internet technology. I have some concerns with that and I brought a couple of my concerns up with Chuck. If fundamental Christian teaching become illegal it will not be a problem for the Government to filter out any Christian material or even track down anyone. For example, they could use the word “Chuck Missler” and automatically dump any article with that name being indexed, hosted or going through an ISP. They could also do it with the words “second coming” or “rapture” or any other word or phrase they want. They are already doing that in China and some other countries.

Some might say you could encrypt the information but then the government could require all encryption software companies to give them the encryption keys. I brought that up to Chuck but Chuck just said that they did not even need encryption keys. If that were the case (and in real time operations it is not) then Chuck just proved my case.

Chuck teaches that there will be a satellite within five years that will provide Internet access for everyone on earth. That probably is not true. One satellite is not going to cover the whole earth. It might be that in five years there will be the beginning of a satellite system that will eventually cover the whole earth but the whole system would be many years down the line. The media companies are not investing hundreds of billions of dollars in fiber cable and WiMax technology because it will be all obsolete in five years.

Even if there were a satellite system, it would change nothing about filtering capabilities. If all communications were coming from the satellites, someone could still filter the information just by having the data downloaded to government censors before uploading it again to the satellite and sending it back to the earth.

Another argument Chuck used was that we would be under-the-radar so to speak. Nobody is under-the-radar of a filter.

So I am finding this underground Church idea to be incredibly naive. Government right now, in the name of nation security, is being told to monitor all Internet traffic. Any underground church that wants to be under the radar better separate itself from any electronic media.

Anyway, for what my opinion is worth, I find this whole institute of Missler’s to be not well thought out. I also do not feel that he should be using a quarter of his time at a Bible conference that I paid for with the entrance fees promoting his institute during his speaking slots. 

Missler brought up one interesting point at the conference that I will have to think more about. He makes a distinction between the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven. He claims that the passages about those Christians practicing the sins mentioned where it is said that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of heaven, is not talking about whether they will be saved or not. Missler claims that the inheritance is ruling and reigning with Jesus Christ in the Millennium. Thus, Missler indicates that some in Christ will not rule or even be in the Millennium reign or Kingdom of Heaven but they still will be saved in the Kingdom of God. I have not thought through the concept yet, so I do not take a position on it. But, if it were true, it could explain why people who are obviously believers are told that if they are practicing these sins, they will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven which comes to earth for a thousand years.

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Is the Singularity and the Rapture the same event?

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I have made the conjecture that the mark of the Beast may have something to do with making man not quite human and that people will take the mark as some great evolutionary step forward for mankind. God says that those who take the mark can no longer be saved. This could be because the Kinsman Redeemer came only to save the Adamic race. If people become transhuman they will no longer qualify.

I do not hear about many buying into the theory that the singularity and the Rapture are the same events. Nevertheless, the article makes some good points and it is thought provoking.

One point that I would like to make is that some do think that man can achieve long life and even immorality in this generation. Bible prophecy does not teach that that this will be achieved in this age or dispensation. Prophecy does imply that it will happen in the Kingdom generation. Since man is attempting to bring about long life before the Kingdom and is on the brink of achieving it we must be very close to that Kingdom and the second coming of Jesus Christ.

Throughout the world, many intellectuals and futurists have noted their belief in the nearness of the singularity, with quite a few predicting it will occur within our generation. Some proponents of the singularity have promised immortality and post-biological bodies for the human race, prompting many adherents to draw parallels between these events and the prophesied rapture of the bible. Lacking a clear understanding of bible prophecy, some of these people have come to believe that the singularity and the rapture are one and the same. However, nothing could be further from the truth. So let’s examine the facts about the singularity and the rapture.

In preparation for the singularity, a new worldwide social/religious movement has emerged: the Transhumanist Movement. Identifying themselves “singularitarians” and “transhumanists,” these people look forward to the singularity with a fervor usually reserved for religious zealots. Many within the movement believe the singularity will lead to the emergence of “post-biological humans” who are able to shed their biological bodies and “upgrade their hardware.” Many believe that by downloading themselves into a network, they will effectively become “immortal.” True believers have modified their diets, exercise routines, and entire lifestyle in an effort to increase the likelihood of living to witness human reversal of the aging process and eventual human “immortality.”

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The Rapture – Answering the critics

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The Rapture –Answering the critics
The most ludicrous of the criticisms is that we base our view that there will be a rapture upon Margaret MacDonald’s vision in the 1800s. It makes me almost
nauseous to have to even address this –for the thousandth time, when, if the critics would just read what is already written on the subject on the site,
it should quell their proclivity to make such ridiculous claims. But, I will briefly answer again, those who are so intellectually and spiritually lazy.

I can only imagine what www.raptureready.com website gets in email because I get these claims quite often myself and the rapture is not the main focus of my website. There are some Christians out there who keep bringing up the same old tired arguments over and over like they have never been answered. They must think that pre-trib rapture scholars have just ignored all arguments over the years instead of addressing them. If they actually tried doing a little research instead of just parroting someone’s book or someone else’s ranting on the subject they would not be sending us their SPAM. Yes it often is misguided SPAM because they never read our views before sending us their unsolicited email. They just think if we are a pre-trib website they are doing God’s will by correcting us of our errors through their forced feeding of old canned SPAM.

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Does the Bible Hold the Missing Key to the Current UFO Debate

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Does the Bible Hold the Missing Key to the Current UFO Debate: “Prophecy expert Terry James believes this is no coincidence. More and more well-documented UFO sightings may be evidence that our government will soon be forced to stop dragging its feet on ‘Official Disclosure’. Powers beyond man’s control may cause the US administration and other global authorities to admit that they have been in contact with so-called extraterrestrial intelligence for some time. Or more than contact? Collusion? According to one scenario, ’something’ in government-funded underground laboratories may be amassing even now, preparing an imminent invasion or re-emergence of ancient beings on earth. In his new book, The Nephilim Imperatives: Dark Sentences (Anomalos Publishing, 2007), James explores the connection between UFOs, spiritual warfare and end-times prophecy, blowing the lid open on a frightening reality that we can only hope is fiction. ‘One of the objectives of the union of fallen angels and humans as we move toward the end-times,’ James says, ‘could be to create a non-human society on earth which would be impossible to be redeemed by Christ during the tribulation described in the book of Revelation.’”

There is some connection to UFO’s, Aliens, the demonic occult and the coming deception. How it will all fall out I don’t know but Terry James has given a shot at it in his new novel “The Nephilim Imperatives: Dark Sentences” It should be a fascinating read. By the way, I highly recommend the www.raptureready.com website.

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End of Days

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End of Days: “Terry James Time has arrived, I believe, to put together a postulation introspective on biblically prophesied things to come, in end of days scenario fashion–i.e., to offer, in a stream-of-consciousness way, based upon trends in today’s news, a possible course the world might take while we trudge through the end of days toward Armageddon and Christ’s second advent. As always, when entertaining such thoughts in a public forum, I must state up front that these are nothing more or less than speculations on my part.”

This is quite long but it gets into many things that some of us think about in these last days.

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The Emergent Church Movement

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The Emergent Church Movement: “Emergents allow for a plurality of Scriptural interpretations. They challenge to re-think, re-analyze, re-interpret, and rewrite the Gospel and scripture interpretations to many possible relative meanings and applications. Biblical truths become vague, and almost scorned, replaced by universalistic and syncretistic themes that resemble mystical concepts, subtly and overtly. “

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