A critique of the book “Isralestine” that suggests that the war of Psalm 83 is imminent

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Is the war of Psalm 83 and a enlarged Israel imminent as in the book “Isralestine”?
One of the great mysteries for those who study Bible prophecy is the timing of the wars mentioned in Psalm 83 and the war described in Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39. They are obviously different wars but which war occurs first and when? Are they pretribulational wars or tribulation wars? How can Israel be living in peace and security prior to the Ezekiel war as the prophecy clearly indicates? That is the ongoing debate.

Bill Salus in his book “Isralestine” offers a solution but the thesis is very difficult to accept in light of real world realities but that does not mean the thesis he offers based on his selection and interpretation of certain scriptures is wrong. I have had a very difficult time reconciling the issues in his book and think that you really need to read the book and judge the merit of this hypothesis for yourselves and not just rely on my review.

The thesis of the book is that the war of Psalm 83 is imminent. It occurs before the tribulation. The war brings about the defeat of the Arab nations and it allows a very large territorial expansion of Israel into the Arab states by conquest. After the war of Psalm 83 the greatly expanded Israel then lives in peace and security until the war of Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 where Gog (Russia) comes against Israel with Iran and other allies. At that time God intervenes for Israel and Israel expands to the entire land area promised to Abraham. Bill Salus also believes the Ezekiel war is before the “Day of the Lord” and that the rapture could be before or after the war of Psalm 83 but will be before the “Day of the Lord”.

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When perverse predators go to our assemblies we protect our own, we do not become easy targets and victims

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If the perverse appear in an assembly displaying disorderly conduct and disrespect toward God, woman and children as mentioned here I personally think it is within the assemblies right and it is their duty to use force to protect the family and remove them from their midst. Praying for these people is nice but these people have already rejected God’s truth and they have been given over to insanity. They are demonically driven hateful predators who practice lawlessness and they will do what easy targets and those with  victim mentalities allow them to get away with. If they tried that in ancient Judaism they would be stoned, if they tried that in a Muslim Mosque they would be stoned. They only do it in Christian congregations because many Christians have been misled to believing love means you will be a patsy.

Lesbians, condoms go wild in attack on Christian church

Worshippers at a Bible-teaching church in Lansing, Mich., were stunned Sunday when members of a pro-homosexual, pro-anarchy organization named Bash Back interrupted their service to fling propaganda and condoms around the sanctuary, drape a profane banner from the balcony and feature two lesbians making out at the pulpit.

According to a blog posting by Nick De Leeuw on Right Michigan, the Bash Back organization orchestrated a protest in front of Mount Hope Church to draw the church’s security staff away from the sanctuary.

Then Bash Backers who had dressed up and mixed in with church worshippers took action.

According to De Leeuw, “Prayer had just finished when men and women stood up in pockets across the congregation, on the main floor and in the balcony.

“‘Jesus was gay,’ they shouted among other profanities and blasphemies as they rushed the stage. Some forced their way through rows of women and kids to try to hang a profane banner from the balcony while others began tossing fliers into the air. Two women made their way to the pulpit and began to kiss,” he wrote.

He cited the Bash Back organization’s own announcement of other items members brought into the church, including “a megaphone, noise makers, condoms, glitter by the bucket load, confetti, pink fabric. …”

According to the alternative Lansing City Pulse – which reported it was notified of the protest ahead of time and sent a reporter along instead of warning the church – the protesters also screamed at parishioners and pulled the church facility’s fire alarm. Printed material protesters distributed said, “We specialize in confronting homophobia, transphobia and every and all other forms of oppression.”

The report said Bash Back issued a statement today confirming it targeted Mount Hope, which has about 5,000 church participants, because it participates in “the repression of queers.”

On the newspaper’s forum page, a contributor commented, “Homosexuals and anarchists. A perfect combination of human beings with no hope, no morals, no future.”

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Dr. David R. Regan lists the main points of struggle between the secular Left and the Judeo-christian Right.

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Dr. David R. Regan has always stood on solid Biblical ground on his positions. This man of God in his article outlines the spiritual and cultural struggle and the divide based on the opposing views of the secular Left and the traditional Judeo-Christian Right. I can assure you that if Dr. Regan is talking about them He believes the differences are a grave danger to America.

In politics the differences between Left and Right becomes as clear as supporting someone like Barny Frank verses a Sarah Palin, in the news media reading WND or CNN, In the entertainment media being influenced by Oprah or Chuck Norris, in the churches attending an Emergent Church relying on shifting sand of esoteric and mystical experiences or attending a church that relies on the Rock solid foundation of biblical doctrine.

Those who call themselves Christians need to know the differences between the worldviews between Left and Right because only one serves Jesus Christ as He is defined in the Bible. The consequence for Christians and this nation are enormous. We are seeing the greatest change toward a socialist secular society in this history of this nation. Even in the American civil war some on both sides found high moral ground for fighting for the cause but in this new American Revolution the moral high ground is clearly on the Right.

This article should put things into proper prospective to any true Christian. If you read it and still think you are a Christian but vote for the Left this Tuesday you might find out why you really believe that you are truly a Christian?

Christian Worldview Network - Brannon Howse - The Struggle Between Left and Right

The Struggle Between Left and Right

The party on the left, the Democrat, wants a secular society with a Socialist economy based on the principle of egalitarianism.

The party on the right, the Republican, desires to hold to a society grounded in Judeo-Christian principles and Capitalism, based on the principle of equal opportunity.

With regard to moral values, the left wants to remove religion from the public arena, suppressing it to the privacy of the home. The left desires absolute freedom of abortion, special rights for homosexuals, same-sex marriage, and limitation of conservative freedom of speech through the passage of so-called “hate crime” legislation and the implementation of the “fairness doctrine” in broadcasting. The left is also determined to prohibit the teaching of Creationism as an alternative to Evolution.

The right opposes unlimited abortion and special rights for any group. The right also believes in the freedom to speak out on any issue, trusting that truth will prevail when there is an open market place of ideas.

The left desires to require public education and then use the public school system as a propaganda forum for its secularist agenda. The right believes that parents should have the freedom to educate their children at home, enroll them in private schools, or send them to public schools. And the right believes that a school, whatever its nature, should be a place of education and not propaganda.

The left has a vision of transforming the Supreme Court through the appointment of judges who will interpret the Constitution to mean whatever is convenient for the advancement of a secular, socialist society. The right desires justices who will faithfully interpret the Constitution to mean what the Founding Fathers intended.

In foreign affairs, the left seeks to diffuse nationalism in favor of regional and international integration. The left admires the secular European values produced by the French Revolution. And with regard to national security, the left has placed its hope in diplomacy rather than armaments.

The right believes in preserving the integrity of American values and identity. It believes that a strong military is the nation’s best defense and hope for peace. It resists the multiculturalism that is so attractive to the left.

If the right does not start standing up and speaking out boldly in behalf of Judeo-Christian values, Capitalism, and equality of opportunity, we will soon find ourselves living in a nation like Great Britain. It was once the center of world Christianity. Today, only 7% of Britains attend church in what has become a thoroughly secular, socialistic society where individual freedom is severely curtailed in behalf of “the common good.”

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Biden says America will resist unpopular changes of Obama within the first six months.

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Read the part that I highlighted below. Joe Biden said that Obama will need the help of community leaders to control the population as unpopular decisions are made and AMERICANS RESIST. This will occur within six months of him taking office. In other words they are saying they expect something to happen that will make Americans resist the Government. I cannot think of what that would be other than Martial law and taking away people’s guns. It has been the plan of Government to use Clergy and other community leaders to get people to voluntarily hand in their guns after Martial law is declared. So it seems to me that this is what Joe Biden is talking about. Wouldn’t that be a hoot, if within 6 months they use some real or false flag event to make Obama dictator?

Something is very strange in Denmark here because all these people that are out of the homeland security loop could not possibly know what terrorists are planning to do within 6 months of Obama taking office. So what is it that all these people who will have a role in the Obama administration and some foreign leaders been told?  I can see Joe Biden making off the cuff bazaar statements like this but when all the people listed below indicate the same thing this seems to be well coordinated. Throw in the Americans resisting the unpopular changes and decision made by Obama?? and we all truly have reason for alarm.

This has not been put out as some glib statement these people are serious. Perhaps they know there will be a war with Iran and it will set off sleeper cells here, who knows? You wanted change under Obama it looks like you will get change sooner than anyone expected.

Australian PM Kevin Rudd - “Nuke strike would make 9/11 insignificant” | Daily Newscaster

Over the last 72 hours there has been a strange melange of cryptic messages leaked from world political leaders about what could be in store for America over the next few months.

These predictions of impending doom come from England, France, Australia and the United States. In each case there has been a press releases or news expose’ predicting huge and building threats emerging from faceless enemies in shadowy places

Biden told the top Democratic donors that a “generated crisis” will develop within six months and Barak Obama will need the help of community leaders to control the population as unpopular decisions are made and Americans resist.

Biden’s ominous language at the Seattle Sheraton are followed with statements by long time establishment insiders Colin Powell and Madeline Albright both say there is a massive crisis on the horizon and Biden was simply making a “statement in fact.”

Meanwhile in England were they are trying desperately to pass a draconian measure allowing for the 42 day imprisonment of any citizen without charges or access to bail.

Lord West, adviser to Prime Minister Gordon Brown on national security says, “There is another great plot building up again and we are monitoring. It dipped slightly and is now rising again within the context of severe. The threat is huge. We have done all the things that we need to do, but the threat is building - the complex plots are building,”

Only a few hours ago Agence France-Presse published a press release about the Sydney meeting of the international Commission on Nuclear Non-proliferation and Disarmament presided over by Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd who said that the world is facing a threat that will dwarf the September 11 attacks.

“The devastation that could be wreaked by one major nuclear weapons incident alone puts 9/11 and almost everything else [in] to the category of the insignificant,” Rudd said.

Why are there so many high level politicians around the world in a seemingly coordinated effort warning of huge threats and developing crisis’ that may include a nuclear device? Are they preparing the masses for an event or series of events that have been in the making for some time? Is the public being prepared for new and forming enemies with a potential to plunge the entire world into war?

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U.S. Intelligence is worried that Pakistan may fall to terrorists.

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Apparently our own intelligence agencies now believe that the situation in Pakistan is grave and that Pakistan is near the brink of falling into the hands of terrorists. Rick Moran in this blog questions what Obama or what the U.S. would do in such a situation. I do not think there would be any choice. We cannot allow terrorists to get their hands on scores of nuclear weapons and we cannot allow a terrorist state in Pakistan, nor will India ever allow such a thing.

Here is what I believe would happen. The nukes will immediately be taken out or fully protected by U.S. special forces because if we did not do that right away India will take them out with a nuclear first strike on Pakistan.

Once the nukes are secure. I think NATO, India and a Pakistani resistance would become allies and India would invade from the south and NATO forces would invade for the north. The formal Pakistan army is not going to put up any kind of real fight because except for the terrorist infiltrators in the ranks most of the military leaders would sooner join the effort to get rid of the terrorists in their nation. Most of the Pakistani people would also work with the allies in defeat of the terrorists.

Once the allies have control of the terrorist strongholds and Al Qaida and the Taliban power is put down a Pakistani general will rule again until they are able to once again have free elections. Dealing with Pakistan is the only solution for a victory against terrorists in Afghanistan anyway. So if Pakistan can’t or won’t deal with the problem we eventually will have to. I think Obama has make his position on the Pakistani situation clearer than McCain so I do not see him not dealing with the problem if the terrorists should gain control. Also India will keep him honest. India will never tolerate a Pakistani nuclear terrorist state. Nor will our Military Joint Chiefs of Staff. Even a rouge President would not be allowed to put our nation in mortal danger. Our military is sworn to protect the U.S. from all enemies foreign and domestic.

American Thinker Blog: ‘Pakistan on the edge’

A growing al Qaida-backed insurgency, combined with the Pakistani army’s reluctance to launch an all-out crackdown, political infighting and energy and food shortages are plunging America’s key ally in the war on terror deeper into turmoil and violence, says a soon-to-be completed U.S. intelligence assessment

No way to shield Afghanistan from this storm. If Pakistan falls to the terrorists, things will become very dicey, very quickly in Afghanistan. No doubt any government sympathetic to the Taliban and al-Qaeda would throw open the borders and allow fighters to infliltrate with ease.

Would we let this happen? Would we allow Pakistan with its nukes to fall into the hands of terrorists?

Can it get that bad in Pakistan? The Pakistanis themselves now say that two vital regions - Swat and the area around Peshawar - are already in al-Qaeda’s hands. The whole government is rotten to the core so it won’t take much to push it over.

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Does the war of Psalms 83 come before the war of Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39?

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I have not read the book “Isralestine”, by Bill Salus but it sounds like an intriguing prophetic explanation of end time events. Almost all futurist Bible prophecy students will agree that there are three end time wars involving Israel. However, we disagree somewhat on the timing of first two wars. Those wars being the Ezekiel Chapter 38 and 39 war where Gog comes down with a host of nations and the Psalms 83 war where a confederacy of nations attempts to cut Israel off from being a nation. In the mix somewhere is the destruction of Damascus since the prophecy has never been fulfilled yet.

I have heard enough about this book to know that Bill Salus makes a strong case for the war of Psalms 83 coming first. I believe the premise is that after the aftermath of the Psalms 83 war that brings the destruction of Damascus, Israel will expand its borders. That will allow Israel to have the security that is implied by Ezekiel at the time of the Gog invasion. At that time Russia will come down with a host of nations against Israel and God will intervene.

In the past, I have tended to put the Ezekiel war first and I placed the Psalm 83 war in the middle of the tribulation making that the reason why the Jews flee to the mountains. However, Bill Salus may be correct, it does answer a whole lot of questions.

If you have read this book I would appreciate your own insights.

Israel destroys Damascus, then Russia invades

Indeed Russia and Iran are ready to make their moves, but what about Syria? Oddly Syria, who today panders alongside Iran for Russian affections, is not included among the elite nine members of the Ezekiel 38 and 39 consortium of attacking nations. Why not? What knocks their quiver of missiles out of the Ezekiel military equation?

As I have documented in my recently released book, “Isralestine, The Ancient Blueprints of the Future Middle East,” the Bible makes quite clear that in a distinctly separate Psalm 83 episode Damascus, the capital of Syria, soon ceases to be a city, and subsequently shortly thereafter Russia and Iran advance against Israel.

Furthermore “Isralestine” explains how the destruction of Damascus followed by the Ezekiel invasion sets the stage for the final tribulation period, whereby the Antichrist rallies his Armageddonites together in one last days ditch effort to destroy the Jewish race.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin

Thus there are three scheduled end time advances against Israel, not just Ezekiel’s. First comes Psalm 83, the Arab-Israeli war, followed promptly by the Ezekiel 38 and 39 Russian – Iranian invasion, and lastly the campaign of Armageddon by the Antichrist.

The destruction of Damascus will be such a powerful world event that Isaiah was instructed to boldly and succinctly state, the burden against Damascus. “Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, And it will be a ruinous heap.” (Isaiah 17:1, NKJV) Isaiah further announces that the fortified cities of Syria will be forfeited into Israeli sovereignty. (Isaiah 17:9) This suggests that the dooming of Damascus and conquest of Syria results from of an Israeli Defense Forces campaign.

Amos and Jeremiah echo this 2,800-year-old Isaiah prophecy by prophetically uttering some additional details they were given. Amos declares that the capitol building of Syria will go up in smoke, and that the nation as a whole, will go into captivity. (Amos 1:3-5) Jeremiah concurs and furthermore declares the Syrian military will be decisively defeated, and in addition many young men will die in the blood-stained streets of Damascus. (Jeremiah 49:23-27)

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No Homeland Security EMP Emergency Action Plan?

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It would seem rather bazaar that there would be no emergency action plan in place to deal with the aftermath of an EMP attack on the U.S. It poses the greatest immediate and near future danger to the survival of the U.S. other than an all out nuclear attack by Russia or China.

Both Russia and China have hinted at using an EMP against the United States and definitely have the capability. We also know from the missile tests of Iran and N. Korea that they could have that capability soon, not to mention that terrorists could obtain the capability on their own if they have or acquire a nuclear bomb. So why is there no public plan in place when both Congress and the military clearly know of this EMP threat?

There may be an explanation. Perhaps there are plans in place but they are Top Secret Emergency Actions plans. Such plans would be found among the top secret plans of a nuclear attack against the United States from a foreign power.

Your not going to find these types of top secret military plans in the Department of Homeland Security’s Public Emergency Plan booklet. Most in Homeland Security would not even know of these plans because they do not have the required security clearance. Even the few that do know of them are not going to share top secret information with local governments and the public. There is quite a bit of classified information that the government does not make known to the public for good reason.

I think I can tell you the crux of EMP Emergency Action Plan in one sentence. The problem would be so devastating and so widespread that there would be the suspension of the Constitution, complete military marshal law, and government control over everyone and everything. The same as it would be after a massive nuclear attack on the U.S. by Russia or China. I believe the government already has these plans in place and if an EMP would occur they would implement them.

U.S. still naked to EMP threat

Electricity grids down, uncontrolled fires from exploding gas transport systems, no communication to call for help, no water to battle fires: It’s all part of a catastrophic scenario some scientists predict could happen under an electromagnetic pulse attack – and the Department of Homeland Security’s 83-page emergency plan includes no mention of EMP or how it might respond to such an attack.

When WND contacted the Department of Homeland Security, a representative explained why a course of action was not included in the National Emergency Communications Plan – a strategy that relies heavily on the ability of authorities at all levels of government to communicate using radios, computers and other electronic devices that could be disabled by an EMP attack.

“When we look at the strategic threat picture, when we look at patterns of criminal activity that all levels of government show, when we look at what is ultimately going to involve limited resources, we have to get to a point where we prioritize,” DHS spokesman Russ Knocke said. “We prioritize based upon threat vulnerability and consequence. As we speak today, there’s nothing in the threat picture that would suggest an imminent EMP attack.”

However, Congress has expressed concern regarding the threat of EMP. A top scientist warned the House Armed Services Committee in July that America remains vulnerable to a “catastrophe” from a nuclear electromagnetic pulse attack that could be launched with plausible deniability by hostile rogue nations or terrorists.

William R. Graham, chairman of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack and the former national science adviser to President Reagan, testified before the committee and issued an alarming report on “one of a small number of threats that can hold our society at risk of catastrophic consequences.”

He identified vulnerabilities in the nation’s critical infrastructures, “which are essential to both our civilian and military capabilities.”

Not taking the steps necessary to reduce the threat in the next three to five years “can both invite and reward attack,” Graham told the committee.

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Gog is now rising. The rise of the new Russian Empire.

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Russia is obviously now making its move against NATO expansion and has plans to show the nations around them that this NATO tiger will not venture out of its cage. The invasion of Georgia was well planned by Russia in advance. Russia simply could not have moved this quickly otherwise.

It looks to me like Russia was behind the unrest knowing that the Georgian President would have to react. When he did Russia started putting their expansion plans into motion. The main objective is not Georgia it is first reasserting itself in the former USSR states that have a Russian speaking population. They also intend to stop NATO expansion and to counter U.S. influence in what they believe to be their Russian Empire. The major immediate threat probably always was and now is to the Ukraine.

After Russia controls the Russian speaking areas she will expand elsewhere and form alliances with nations like Serbia and Iran. The Gog of Ezekiel is now rising to control this region of the world. NATO will do nothing but bluster and provide arms for any resistance. Old Europe and the U.S. are not going to risk their own necks for Eastern Europe. Those nations in Eastern Europe that are joining NATO and the EU thinking that the West will fight Russia for them are living under a very false hope.

Bloomberg.com: Worldwide

Aug. 13 (Bloomberg) — Now that Russia has humiliated Georgia with a punishing military offensive, it may shift its attention to reining in pro-Western Ukraine, another American ally in the former Soviet Union.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s first order of business likely will be to try to thwart Ukraine’s bid to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

Medvedev, 42, and Putin, 56, say Russia began the offensive in response to a drive by Georgia to restore control over the breakaway region of South Ossetia. Now Russia has ousted Georgian forces from there and from Abkhazia, another separatist region, and destroyed much of the central government’s military.

Russia may find it convenient to raise the level of tension with Ukraine in the run-up to the December NATO review,” Citigroup Inc.’s London-based David Lubin and Ali Al-Eyd wrote in a note to clients. “If the conflict with Russia decelerates or reverses Georgia’s integration with the West, a similar fate could also affect Ukraine.”

Divided Country

Ukraine, a country of 46 million people that’s almost as big as France, has a large Russian-speaking population in the south and east that opposes NATO entry and looks to Moscow. Russian officials warn that if President Viktor Yushchenko pushes Ukraine into NATO, the nation may split in two.

A month ago, about 1,000 U.S. soldiers joined 600 Georgians and 100 from Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Armenia in joint exercises at the Vaziani military base near Tbilisi. Russia repeatedly bombed the base during this month’s war.

“The American role in the region has been weakened,” Jan Techau, a European and security affairs analyst at the German Council on Foreign Relations in Berlin, said in a telephone interview. “It’s a reassertion of Russia’s dominant role in the region.”

It’s somewhat reminiscent, in 1939, when Stalin attacked Finland,” former U.S. national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski told Bloomberg Television. “I think this kind of confrontation is the best kind of answer as to why they are seeking to be members of NATO.”

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Four aircraft carrier groups in the gulf area could mean a strike on Iran is imminent

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This report by Kuwait Times that two additional aircraft carrier groups are heading toward the gulf could be very important because the U.S. would insist on having four aircraft carrier groups in that area before it would give Israel any green light to strike Iran. The same is true if the U.S. decided to strike Iran itself.

If this report is true figure that it will take about a month to get all the ships in place and ready for action. So nothing will happen before early September but like I said before an attack in late September to early October makes more political sense than after the election if it looks like Obama might win. It should be very interesting that two additional carrier groups have been reported to be heading that way to fit the timing of a pre U.S. election strike.

When you actually see four carrier groups in the Gulf and Red Sea, it could mean a strike on Iran is imminent. The U.S. would not allow Israel to strike Iran without first having adequate air power in place.

‘2 US aircraft carriers headed for Gulf’ | Jerusalem Post

Two additional United States naval aircraft carriers are heading to the Gulf and the Red Sea, according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Kuwait Times.

Kuwait began finalizing its “emergency war plan” on being told the vessels were bound for the region.

The US Navy would neither confirm nor deny that carriers were en route. US Fifth Fleet Combined Maritime Command located in Bahrain said it could not comment due to what a spokesman termed “force-protection policy.”

While the Kuwaiti daily did not name the ships it believed were heading for the Middle East, The Media Line’s defense analyst said they could be the USS Theodore Roosevelt and the USS Ronald Reagan.

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Cutting off the head of the snake in Pakistan

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After the 9/11 attack on the trade towers Bush said the terrorists would have no sanctuaries to hide. I believe Bush meant what he said at the time but real world conditions cowed him from actually carrying out that promise. Seven years later Osama Bin Laden the mastermind of the attacks is still hiding in Pakistan.

Pakistan’s government and army is completely infiltrated by radical Islamic terrorists and our government knows it. Osama Bin Laden, al Qaeda and the Taliban have sanctuary in Pakistan and Pakistan will not deal with the terrorist problem and they also will not allow NATO forces to go in and deal with the terrorist problem. Once in a while they make a pretend effort to go after these rebels to appease us but they have no such intent.

Now with Iraq winding down the U.S. will move more and more troops to Afghanistan but never deal with the real problem and that is the sanctuary allowed by Pakistan. So we are getting into a situation that is very much like Vietnam. In Vietnam the cowed politicians would not let our military take the war to the head of the snake and we are now doing the same thing here. Soon more and more body bags will be coming home and the people in the NATO nations will soon forget why we are there in the first place and they will start pulling out their troops.

We have already allowed conditions for a WMD staging ground in these territories of Pakistan but as the radicals gain more power we may also be allowing a Pakistan terrorist state to emerge that will export nuclear terrorism all over the world. There would be a high likelihood of a Pakistan India nuclear war in the near future.

Pakistan has a difficult political situation but the people of Pakistan created it and they should be told in no uncertain terms that allowing a sanctuary for terrorism against NATO forces in Afghanistan and against India will not be tolerated. They should be given this ultimatum - Deal with your internal security issues and root out the terrorists in your government and end the terrorist sanctuaries in Pakistan or we will see that as a sign that the people of Pakistan are already being held hostage by the radicals and need outside help from NATO.

They might remind us that they have nuclear weapons and we might remind them that they might lose that capability in one minute of time if they do not comply.

The Army in Pakistan is going to go along with NATO in the end once the face saving bluster has run its course. The leaders of Pakistan are not suicidal. There is also no reason that we should be suicidal either by allow the Vietnamization of Afghanistan and allowing Pakistan to be a staging ground sanctuary for WMD terrorist attacks on NATO countries and India.

It is time to cut off the head of the snake with a joint Pakistan NATO invasion of the rebel held territories. If Pakistan will not help they need to be told to stand down and we will do the job for them and we are not taking no for an answer.

The following article by Chuck Missler will give some additional information on the Pakistani problem.

Christian Worldview Network - Brannon Howse - Pakistan in Peril

Musharraf must now answer accusations that he knew about black market sales of Pakistan’s nuclear technology. On the 4th of July, the father of Pakistan’s nuclear program, scientist and black-marketeer A.Q. Khan, dropped a bomb on Musharraf and his Western allies. Until now, Khan has always said that he is solely responsible for selling nuclear technology to Iran, Libya, and North Korea. However Khan now claims that Musharraf and Pakistan’s politically powerful army had “complete knowledge” of the shipment of centrifuges to North Korea.

the outcome of Pakistan’s internal conflict could have global repercussions. Pakistan is the only Islamic nation with a declared nuclear weapons program. Pakistan began its secret nuclear weapons program in 1972, and now has between 65 and 90 nukes.

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The collective tools of Satan

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Satan cannot be everywhere like God so he intends to use billions of eyes and ears to try to become like God. He will also use people, spy systems and mass communications to try to control everything in the world. That is also why Satan’s followers talk about a collective consciousness. 1984 has arrived.

Paul Proctor — Nowhere To Hide

With cameras now hanging over every street corner and parking lot – over
every highway, byway, hallway and aisle way – and in every gas station,
grocery store, shopping mall, office complex, government building,
restaurant and recreational area we visit, it would seem the only way
to escape someone’s watchful eye is to move out into the wilderness
where there are no paved roads, automobiles, bicycles, pedestrians or
surveillance cameras.

But, unfortunately, “the middle of nowhere” no longer exists.

Even if we were invisible to the camera’s lens, we’re easily tracked, day or
night by, among other things, our cell phone transmissions, our debit
and credit card purchases, our ATM withdrawals, and our automobile’s
integrated GPS systems – all old technology. Even when you pay cash for
something at a little convenience store, your image is, more often than
not, recorded along with the items you purchased and the exact time you
purchased them by a mounted security camera overhead. The cameras
outside the store record your vehicle, license number, the precise time
you arrived and left and everyone that was with you.

Does all this post 911 technology make you feel any safer or any freer for that matter?

Me either.

If you believe that people are basically good, Satan doesn’t exist and
Peeping Sam has your best interest in mind, then you probably see the
future as bright and promising. If however, you believe that man is
basically sinful, “absolute power corrupts absolutely” and things are
going to get worse before they get better, then you’re more than likely
anticipating an arduous age ahead.

You see, there is indeed
nowhere to hide. In fact, there never has been – not from an
omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent God. But, the Devil is none of
these, though the scriptures tell us he has aspired to be from the
beginning – and may well be amassing some superstructure of
surveillance and control through the machinations and machinery of men.

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Does the European Union fulfill the revised Roman Empire and Daniel chapter nine or the Mediterranean Union?

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This is a very interesting prophetic development. We have been looking for the EU to fulfill the revived Roman Empire and the covenant of Daniel chapter nine but it turns out that it will actually be fulfilled by the Mediterranean Union (MU).

The EU has nations that were not in the original Roman Empire but the MU includes the right nations. It is looking like the exact same lands that were in the original Roman Empire will also be in the revived Roman Empire. Ireland was never in the Roman Empire and it is interesting that the voters of Ireland just turned down the treaty that would have federalized the EU. So it looks like Ireland will stay out.

It is also interesting that nations east of Germany were never in the Roman Empire. Perhaps they will start their own union or unite again in a union with Russia. I would bet on them uniting with Russia since Russia has the energy resources that they require.

Israel will be part of the Mediterranean Union so that sets the stage for the leader of the MU confirming the covenant with many for one week (7 years) spoken of by Daniel chapter nine.

The peaces are now rapidly coming together for fulfillment for that last week of years. We have the right alignment of nations and a likely peace agreement with all the old Roman Empire nations guaranteeing Israel’s right to exist. Now it is just a matter of God’s timing.

It also looks to me like the putting together of a federalized EU with the present members will fail and it will be replaced with the membership of the MU.

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leaders from 43 countries comprising 756 million people met officially to form the “Mediterranean Union,” to fight terrorism, end WMD proliferation, enhance regional security, and promote free trade, economic development, and tourism.

The brainchild of French President Nicolas Sarkzozy, the M.U. is certainly not a formal military or economic alliance by any stretch. Not yet, at least. But significantly, it does include all the nations of the European Union, Israel and all the countries of North Africa. The sole exception is Libya, whose leader, Muammar Gadaffi, denounced the organization as the rise of a “another Roman Empire.” Gadaffi is right. That’s precisely what we’re seeing

They see a unified Europe setting the model for a unified planet. A one world system, run by Europe. And the first step, in the eyes of the “Eurocrats” is to expand their territory southward. “The European and the Mediterranean dreams are inseparable,” Sarkozy said at the opening festivities. “We will succeed together; we will fail together….We will build peace in the Mediterranean together, like yesterday we built peace in Europe…not north against south, not Europe against the rest, but united….We dreamed about a Union for the Mediterranean, and now it is a reality.”

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Realistic imminent dangers to the United States within the next 15 years

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I wrote these articles on imminent dangers to the United States a couple of years ago and they are on my website but I think in light of the world and national situation and the fact that many do not read my website it may be appropriate to post a review to these articles on this blog.

Imminent Danger for the United States of America Superpower

Nuclear electromagnetic pulse (EMP) - Imminent danger to the US # 1

Massive oil and gas disruptions - Imminent Danger to the U.S. # 2

Total economic collapse in the U.S. - Imminent danger to the U.S. # 3

Coordinated nuclear terrorist attack - Imminent danger to the US # 4

WMD Attack on the U.S. by Russia or China - Imminent danger to the U.S. #5

Break Up of the United States of America and Civil Upheavals - Imminent Danger #6

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Newswithview.com and their conspiracy loons.

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One of the reasons why I no longer link to Newswithviews.com is the many hateful conspiracy people who write articles on this forum. There are some good posts on that website so I check it but I wish writers with Christian discernment would post elsewhere.

I cannot believe that intelligent people would actually believe that our own government was behind 9/11. These people see all government linking to a great unprovable international conspiracy to bring in some imaginary new world order that is already set in stone in back rooms of think tanks. They have been on this nonsense for many decades but they continually find a new audience. I guess the leaders make a living off of it or they like to develop a following. However the truth of the matter is that nothing like this can happen until God allows it and when He allows it their will not be one thing they can do to stop it.

If things in the world really were as sinister as these people like to claim why are they allowed to live to spout their secret inside knowledge? These people even go beyond the fringe Left that likes to see fascism behind every bush and thus see 9/11 as a fascist power grab by the Right but if the Far Left actually wanted to see fascism all they would really have to do is look in a mirror and project their own thoughts out a few years.

But no, these don’t claim to be on the Left, They claim to be civil Libertarians who want to go back to what they think is the real intent of the founding fathers and the American Constitution. As if they could really know how our founding fathers would interpret their own words when addressing unique 21st century problems. I think our founding fathers would even be more pro active and more military minded than anyone like George Bush. Our founding fathers launched what they though were just wars for reasons that pale compared to the post 9/11 nuclear threat.

These people are always against government they are really anarchists. They live in some backwoods fantasy world. They do not have a clue that if we or the world went to the form of government that they suggest that it would cause Anarchy everywhere. It would bankrupt the nation, and put us in a great depression for fifty years. Sure maybe we should have never gone down this road but get in reality we did! Now we need to complete the journey because there is no going back. Those bridges have long been cut. Going back would mean many different things to many different people and everyone would be running amok doing what they think is right in their own eyes while the nation burns.

Some of these Libertarians are very legalistic in their biblical interpretations. They have no understanding of the Spirit of passages. they want the whole world to live under their own narrow interpretation of Old Testament Biblical laws that never could be even marginally followed except through Christian conversion.

They rail against all popular elected government and the will of the people but what they propose is a very limited government that would be narrowly defined by themselves. They think they can start over without paying our debts and honoring our treaties. Who would trust that America? They will say they do not advocate that but they certainly do. There limited government and very limited taxation could never pay what we owe to our own people or what we owe to other nations. I guess they would just tell everyone on Social Security and Medicare to get back to work because they can’t pay the entitlements you worked for all your life. Get a grip!

Last I read the Bill of rights gives us freedom of speech in this nation. Yet Devvy Kidd wants Michael Reagan to do jail time for his expression of outrage against people like her who make hate speech statements against government. Move to Burma if you want that!

She would be the first one to condemn hate speech legislation if it were passed but she herself says that Michael Reagan should be arrested for his rail against the hate speech she spouts.

I guess she thinks the American constitution only applies to the great enlightened conspiracy elite like herself.

Devvy Kidd — Indict Michael Reagan, Applaud Senator Karen Johnson

INDICT MICHAEL REAGAN, APPLAUD SENATOR KAREN JOHNSON

By: Devvy
June 16, 2008

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“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.” Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s Minister of Propaganda

It takes a lot to shock me anymore, but indeed, shock is what registered when I listened to talk show host, Michael Reagan, blast these words during the second hour of his show, June 10, 2008:

Partial transcript of Reagan’s statements which can be heard here (3:12 minutes):

“Excuse me folks, I’m going to say this. We ought to find the people who are doing this, take them out and shoot them. Really. You take them out, they are traitors to this country, and shoot them. You have a problem with that? Deal with it. You shoot them. You call them traitors, that’s what they are, and you shoot them dead. I’ll pay for the bullets. ”Reagan adds, “How about you take Mark Dice out and put him in the middle of a firing range. Tie him to a post, don’t blindfold him, let it rip and have some fun with Mark Dice.”

At the end when Reagan says “…these people are just outrageous,” I assume it’s Reagan’s engineer says, “Now you know where the Ron Paul supporters went.”

Who is Mark Dice? I had never heard of him until this happened. It appears he’s a 911 activist who has joined with others in a project to present information about 911 to the troops in Iraq. These packages going to active duty soldiers in a war zone was covered on FOX in a 5:12 minute interview with Dice and Megyn Kelly. You can watch this short video here. This is very reminiscent of what happened a long time ago which resulted in what became known as the ‘Great Sedition Trial of 1944,’ where the defendants were charged with trying to incite mutiny within the troops during WWII; they were not convicted. Dice has filed a report with the FBI.

If questioning our government, even during a war based on nothing but lies, is considered an act of treason and we should all be hunted down and shot, then millions of Americans, me included, are guilty. We demand the truth and we will continue to fight for the truth. Senator Karen Johnson deserves our thanks and respect. Michael Reagan deserves our contempt and jail time.

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The Beast will come in through the Left door.

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Take heed! The “nice” leftist people that you are electing are planing to take this nation to what we fought against in World War II. They plan to replace our system with a global fascist system of total governance over everyone and everything. History is repeating itself on a world scale and this time there will be no America coming to the rescue. It is Big Brother control disguised as democratic compassionate humanitarianism. They brainwash you to fear the Christian Right while they bring in their fascist godless socialism through the Left. This Beast will not follow the American Constitution it will follow the ways of the Antichrist. Learn what global governance is all about by reading the full article. Don’t be just another sheep led to the slaughter.

The inevitability of world government

Among the wide-ranging policies addressed in the Millennium Declaration isAgenda 21, the 40-chapter book that defines “sustainable development.” This feel-good term obscures the devastating policies that put government in control of virtually every facet of human existence. Through various federal agencies, the executive branch has already implemented many of the provisions of Agenda 21. Of great concern are the comprehensive planning measures that routinely destroy private property rights – with no thought about the just compensation required by the U.S. Constitution.

The inevitable move toward global governance that will result from the next election takes the United States further away from its fundamental purpose: to protect the inalienable rights of its citizens. Global governance does not recognize inalienable rights at all. Global governance defines the rights that citizens have and assumes the authority to designate those who are responsible for seeing that these rights are extended to those who do not enjoy them.

Obama’s Global Poverty Act affirms this principle: from those according to their ability; to those according to their need – as defined by the United Nations.

Global governance is not the overthrow of the U.S. government by an invasion of blue-helmeted troops delivered on black helicopters. Global governance is the gradual expansion of international rules and regulations developed by unelected international bureaucrats and voluntarily accepted by the likes of the Clintons, Obama and a Democrat-led Congress.

The Millennium Declaration, which Obama’s Global Poverty Act embraces, also calls for all nations to accept the concept of “sovereign equality.” This term is substantially different from “equal sovereignty.” Equal sovereignty means simply that each nation is sovereign in its own right. Sovereign equality means that limitations on the sovereignty of each nation shall be equal, as defined by the U.N. This concept is discussed at length in “Our Global Neighborhood,” the report of the Commission on Global Governance.

The United States is on the verge of being inextricably trapped in the web of international treaties and agreements that is, in fact, global governance. When the U.S. submits to the International Criminal Court, allows the U.N. the power to tax, and finally, acquiesces to the demand to eliminate the veto in the U.N. Security Council, global governance will become world government, from which there will be no escape.

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