David,
No need to apologize. What i find hard to believe, is that most of the major Israeli News sources have this story, but very few, and I mean only a couple MSM sources even come close to being thorough. The last link I posted was by far, the most complete. It could be, that the MSM want to keep the anger going, and are only focused on reactions to the eventuality of the embassy move. It’s certainly a subject worth keeping an eye on.
Take care,
To be honest, I screwed all this up and I apologize.
I was careless and didn’t use valid articles to make my point, which is a direct violation of Don’s policies.
I assure you, it was not intentional.
I will pay better attention to dates and read articles more thoroughly before posting links.
]]>I will not bother to give out this resource as it will not hold water in this discussion, but he has yet to be incorrect in the many years I’ve watched him…of course, there is always a first.
I would bet, if it is true that President Trump signed or will sign, ‘The Waiver’…that it should be public known news shortly.
I don’t understand why no news outlet is giving us concrete details about this yet.
The funding issue was the first thing I saw that convinced me initially that ‘The Waiver’ would be signed.
Assuming this is correct and ‘The Waiver’ has already been signed or will be signed as all indications are saying, to me anyhow…
Let’s see what happens in 6 months, a year, 5 years, or whenever…when this U.S. Jerusalem Embassy Waiver becomes an issue again.
]]>I too did some digging and found a reliable source, with whitehouse document and all. It’s official, Trump did sign the waiver on Wed Dec 6th, right after speech. This link will prove helpful to you later perhaps. BTW, when you do Searches, it’s helpful to include dates to eliminate extraneous material.
https://jewishnews.com/2017/12/07/after-jerusalem-recognition-trump-signs-waiver-delaying-embassy-move/
~David,
Thanks for the link. I stand corrected. It seems the law moving the embassy to Jerusalem was passed in 1995. What has been happening since then is a waver of actually moving it on the grounds of national security.
Trump was told by his people that it would take a number of years to move the embassy to Jerusalem. Here was Trump’s response to his people.
The LA Times reported on Thursday that Trump is likely to sign the waiver again, but that at a recent discussion on the subject, he expressed anger about having to do so, and stated that postponing the move indefinitely is “unacceptable.” The report also said that Trump asked his aides to prepare a plan of how to eventually move the embassy, even if such a move would not be carried out immediately.
read more: https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.826109
There are funding issues involved. Without the waiver, crucial State Department funding to the embassy would be cut off.
I have not found anything definite yet that Trump actually signed the waver but there are reports that he is expected to do so.
]]>“Like several commanders-in-chief before him, President Trump is expected to sign a six-month waiver on plans to move the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.”
And:
“In the meantime, Trump HAS TO authorize a six-month delay as spelled out in the Jerusalem Embassy Act”
Says WHO? There is no source quoted for this, and only speculation here. Just how does the paper KNOW what the President will, or will not do, Did or Did Nit Do?
Like I said, the MSM print intentional mistakes all the time, then later print retractions buried where no one will ever see. And, as I said, if Trump DID NOT sign it on Monday, then it’s the Law Now..
What I and I’m sure Don, would like to see, is, an article that states Trump Signed the Waiver ON (this day) meaning Monday Dec. 4th, 2017 and not wishful speculation by the press. Neither he, nor I, both if us news junkies I’m sure, can validate your claims.
]]>OK, I will admit at the start, I did not read this entire article…because it is all over the news, so why bother…I picked the news source at the beginning of the search (dated December 6th, yesterday) list that had something to say about this, I really know nothing about the NY Daily Times…but they are one of many on this topic.
I did, however, make sure I had the date correct this time.
And, YES, by law, Trump can STILL sign The Waiver despite being past Monday’s deadline.
I am not going to give you a link to that…I ask you to look that clause up yourself.
And, just for the record, I am rooting very hard that Trump NEVER signs the damn thing….but that is not what ALL the news reports are saying…and not one source I’ve seen, heard, or watched, has said President Trump WILL NOT sign ‘The Waiver’ either.
If Trump does NOT sign The Waiver, I was wrong for calling out President Trump.
If Trump DOES sign The Waiver today, tomorrow, or whenever, then the trouble leading up to the next ‘The Waiver’ will be extremely likely as I said.
Perhaps he is doing all this intentionally and planning on NOT signing The Waiver…but that is not official and far from what I’m hearing and reading.
But again, my entire point at the very beginning of this was about the dangers of Islam and what will happen…possibly a Declared or Undeclared war, now that is my opinion and not as concrete as the Islamic responses I mentioned.
]]>~David
I read and listen to a lot of news every day and I have not heard such a claim about Trump signing the waver even once.
All you have to do is give a link to a news source that says what you claim. I think by not signing the waver the 1995 law now went into effect so there is no need for any more Presidential wavers.
The very reason why I am disputing you on this Blog is because I think you have it wrong. You can either admit you got it wrong or you can provide a link to a valid news source that backs up what you claim. That should not be so hard to do since you claim you are hearing it all over the news. A Zionist Bible prophecy teacher on Youtube or the Radio would not qualify.
We know the Muslims will go nuts over Israel they always do. However, you basically called out Trump and implied that Trump copped out over Jerusalem or will cop out. What more could Trump have done?
]]>Your points about the Islamic world are not really anything new, are they. They hate Israel no matter what happens.
So, save yourself the aggravation of looking to prove a wrong assumption on your part, that he signed it. The waiver was not signed, and the law went into effect last Monday, right after the deadline passed. Finito!
]]>I am actually listening to the news right now and hearing the same exact thing over and over again.
But, do you see this David L., because I made a readily admitted error, the entire focus of what I said is completely focused on that error. I screwed up, I’ve said that how many times now ?…but that doesn’t change my point.
What I said will happen should be a surprise to nobody, if The Waiver is not signed and the Jerusalem Embassy goes forward officially, then Islam will go even more Looney Tunes than what we’ve seen yesterday and today.
If it is signed and every resource has indicated that it will or already has…then, Islam will only be able to focus and act out based on the verbal declaration of Jerusalem as Israel’s Capital.
The only proof I can offer at this exact moment is on exactly what President Trump said and didn’t say…and what the news is telling me, which hopefully is accessible to everyone.
I am very focused at the moment on this Waiver signing becoming official as it is a huge endeavor.
And while I’m at it, Don, you have a strict policy on your blog of people who say things on your blog that are not accurate or are misleading, I violated that policy…it was not intentional, I assure you, but I did and readily admit that.
I believe my point is still valid, however.
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