Hi Teresa,

I agree. Although I find Dr. Heiser’s views intriguing, I do not find them to be the only explanation. When he tries to bridge differences he is on the side of the joiners instead of being on the side of what the passages actually say. I guess today you have to expect this from professors who need to appeal to the Christian mafia to be received. The Bible however, gives one truth not multiple truths. We cannot unite on lies. The Bible teaches both a Rapture of the Church and a second coming and there is no way that they are the same event.

I am currently reading the Unseen Realm and find it very interesting. I did, however, find Heiser’s stance on the rapture, aggravating. Like you said, to say believers in the rapture are splitters is odd. As far as I know, Heiser does not cite any other events in the Bible that were split when they should have been joined. Maybe the problem is the “joiners”. Joining events (rapture in this instance), where no other joining in the Bible occurs. His premise seems to be that since we join other events in the Bible, we should join the rapture/second coming, yet offers no instances of such joining. What about the doctrine of Eminence? It is a weak argument in my humble opinion, but then again, I could be wrong.

Vincent my email address can be found under author on this blog or on the home page of this website.

This Tech stuff is just proof that the second coming will be sooner than they can create these things. God is not going to allow humans to be anything other than humans. Jesus did not die to save Transhumans.

James,

I was pointing out that there is information on the Internet about Ron Wyatt and his claims. I was not suggesting that any of these sites had correct theology. That really is not the issue.

Jesus did come to save sinners, but only if they accept Him as the only way through His payment for all our sin. First Corinthians 15:1-4 Those that have the spirit through faith in Christ alone, Ephesians 1:13, are saved and have eternal life through Him who saved us by grace.

They say God draws all men to be saved, and that is true, but not all men become believers. He says He is not willing that any should perish, but all should come to the knowledge of the truth.

Having said that, they may be right about Ron Wyatt.

Hi David G,

Ron Wyatt made a lot of claims that turned out to be bogus. The Internet is full of information about his scams. Here are just two informative articles on Wyatt.

http://www.tentmaker.org/WAR/
http://noahsarksearch.com/ronwyatt.htm

As for the Rapture, the scripture is clear that believers will not go through the day of God’s wrath appointed for unbelievers on earth. Tribulation that believers receive from the world and Satan is not the same thing.

Jesus’ blood. I’m not sure if you’re at all familiar with Ron Wyatt’s alleged discovery of the ark of the covenant back in the early 80’s? Michael Rood adds an intriguing theory about Solomon’s temple which bolsters Wyatt’s claims. In brief, the two men’s work claim they have found the crucifixion sight of Jesus, complete with cracked rock through the chipped post hole. Wyatt claims while excavating below the site, he found a series of tunnels in a cave system and low and behold, he found an area with the temple implements, including the ark of the covenant in a cracked open stone case. On the right side of the ark, there was a brownish substance which had apparently dripped down from the ceiling, upon closer inspection, it appeared to be from a crack in the ceiling which corresponded with the crack running through the post hole he’d discovered up above. It appeared as though the rock had cracked open, and shortly later had shifted back closed – which would be consistent with the two earthquakes occurring during this period. The idea is that at the fall of the first temple, the Ark and implements were hidden below the in the cave system, and 500 years-ish later Jesus’ sacrifice and the spilling of his blood and water seeped down into the ground (bearing witness) and falling upon the East of the mercy seat, sealing the new covenant. Supposedly he was guided by angels on the processes and ran tests on the blood, and it contained only half the number of chromosomes expected, etc… He apparently notified the Jews, and they are currently holding the site for the proper time of excavation – likely to be the building of the 3rd temple.

All of this to say, in accordance with the theory of Jesus’ DNA and cloning… if this is true, this could be a source.

Separate note of the rapture discussion (which I hope and pray is the case in accordance with my understanding of scripture!) It occurred to me that in the Old Testament God saved both Noah and Lot’s family from the large tribulations, though in the New Testament, Christ’s disciples are generally called to endure the pain on earth as a testament to their faith to glorify Christ, knowing their eternal spirit was secure. Heck, of the Apostles only John was spared an unnatural death. Just fodder for thought, or discussion. For what it’s worth, it Does feel like something is building up… with the sign in the heaven’s lining up with the Feast of Trumpets this fall and all of this turmoil… one has to be intrigued. Prepare your homes! God Bless you folks!

When Christ comes for the church, we meet him in the clouds, when He comes at the second coming He comes to the earth. First Thessalonians 4:15-18 First Corinthians 15:51-53.

I do believe we are very close to the end of the church age because of all of he apostasy in the organized church. In Galatians 1:8-9 Paul warned those that pervert the gospel of all grace and preach salvation by works. Ephesians 2:8-9 Jesus said the same thing in Matthew 7:15-23.

Those that have the oil in their lamps, Ephesians 1:13, will go at the rapture.

You can delete the links in my comment for first video link, that were wrong if you like.