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I have to give President Trump credit. It took a lot of guts to withdraw from the Paris climate accords. I don’t think anyone else would have been so bold. The climate agreement has nothing to do with climate. It is all about global governance and wealth redistribution. The science behind global warming was always bogus. It is like the science of evolution. If you tell a lie often enough, and if you give jobs to only those that will promote the lie, the lie will be taught as truth.\u00a0You cannot reason with those given over to a reprobate mind. Most in the world have already been programmed via the global indoctrination systems.<\/p>\n

The climate accord implements carbon taxes that would cost Americans trillions of dollars. Now that Trumps says that we will not join this globalist wealth redistribution scheme, leftists are foaming at the mouth. Their top priority is to get Donald Trump out of office and get global government back on track.<\/p>\n

Trump delayed the move of the US Embassy to Jerusalem for at least 6 months. I guess He thinks he can use it as leverage for a peace deal. The problem with that thinking is that Israel is not the problem. The Palestinians do not want peace with Israel. If other nations force the Palestinians into a peace deal, there may be a peace deal but there will be no peace for Israel.<\/p>\n

The health care reform and tax cuts do not look promising this year. There are too many people in Congress that do not want Trump to succeed. At least sixty percent of them are hoping that somehow Trump will be replaced. It will probably now take an economic downturn to get any tax cuts through Congress.<\/p>\n

A moron could figure out a better health system than can our government. The problem is that Congress is full of politicians who are paid off by the health lobby and who love government bureaucracy. Our health system is ridiculous. Providers charge people who pay cash three times more than insurance companies or government pays the providers. The insurance companies have such high deductibles that you might as well not have insurance at all for routine medical procedures.<\/p>\n

The solution is simple. Make providers charge no more for cash customers than they can get from insurance or the government. Eliminate most of the existing bureaucracy and socialism, and the cost of medical procedures would get so low that most working people could pay cash for routine procedures. Then all that is needed is catastrophic insurance and a government subsidized sliding scale for the poor.<\/p>\n

It looks like Congress is not going to allow significant funding to build a wall on the Mexican border, so I don’t see how that gets done. Back in 2006, when democrats where in control, Congress voted to build 700 miles of fencing. However, they never funded it. They appeased Americans by passing the bill but then reneged. Now Trump says there will be a wall, but congress says, “no way”. They will hope that Americans go back to sleep.<\/p>\n

The recent terrorist attacks in the un-United Kingdom is more of the same that will lead Europe into a civil war and a police state. People are quite willing to give up their freedoms for security. France is already a police state. The leftist elites are counting on a fascist police state being the end result of terrorism. That is why they keep bringing in the terrorists. The travel ban by President Trump that hinders terrorists from coming into America was struck down by federal judges. This is now in the hands of the Supreme Court. We will soon find out if Gorsuch will vote with the sane or the reprobate minds.<\/p>\n

For those not aware of it, the symbology mentioned in Revelation 12 appears in the heavens on Sept 23, 2017.\u00a0I have spent a fair amount of time researching the claims. The sign is valid, but what people claim it means varies. There is plenty of conjecture. What is certain is that the portrait in the stars of heaven is not the fulfillment of the prophecy, it just displays what is being said in the prophecy. So, the appearance of this sign in heaven does not necessarily equate to it being fulfilled on the earth on that date.<\/p>\n

Revelation 12 says:<\/p>\n

And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
\n2\u00a0 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
\n3\u00a0 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
\n4\u00a0 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
\n5\u00a0 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up<\/strong> unto God, and to his throne.
\n6\u00a0 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

There appears a great sign in heaven, a woman (Israel) is ready to give birth and her child was “caught up<\/strong>” (harpazo) to God and His throne. That “caught up” (harpazo) is the same word used for the Rapture in 1Th 4:17. The only other time it is used is when Paul was “caught up” to the 3rd heaven in 2 Co 12:2-4.<\/p>\n

Who is being caught up? Some say it is Jesus, but the narrative really does not fit Jesus. Jesus ascended to heaven. He was not snatched away to protect Him from the devouring dragon. The woman represents the nation of Israel and the red dragon with ten horns represents the satanic world system. Just like the two previous primary symbols, the child is not a lone person. The child represents a corporate body. Jesse Johnson explains that the man-child represents a nation.<\/a><\/strong> It is the nation who’s real home is in heaven. That nation will rule all other nations with a rod of iron (Rev 2 26-27). The corporate Church will be caught up to her heavenly home so that Satan cannot devour the Church during Satan’s rampage on earth. The man-child refers back to Isaiah 66:7-8:<\/p>\n

Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.<\/strong>\u00a0 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Notice that the passage says the child is born before the woman (Israel) even has birth pains. It proves that the Church will be taken up to heaven before the birth pains for Israel begin. Some Church fathers used Revelation 12:5 to prove a pretribulation Rapture.<\/p>\n

This sign in heaven spoken about in Revelation 12 appears in the heavens on Sept 23, 2017. Does it mean that the Rapture will occur around that date? Some think so, I would not rule it out. Actually, the sign in heaven has already been in the heavens for about 6 months. On Sept 23, 2017, Jupiter moves out of the womb area of Virgo (the woman) so some think the woman on that date is giving birth to the nation that will be caught up. Actually, the sign remains in heaven until mid October so the Red Dragon could even appear after Sept 23. What this all means is pretty subjective stuff.<\/p>\n

This Revelation 12 line up in the heaven has not occurred since around the birth of Christ. John was not talking about the occurrence on Sept 11, 3BC because John is being shown things that happen after the Church age. The woman in 3 BC gives birth to Venus (the morning star). Jesus is called the morning star. It probably was the date of Jesus’ birth. Here, around Sept 23, 2017, Virgo gives birth to Jupiter the king planet. The Church will be a nation of kings, so it might be a fitting sign for the Rapture and deification of the Church.<\/p>\n

I do wonder where the red dragon is in heaven that seeks to devour the man-child that Israel births? Frankly, I think the portent lacks being a “great sign” without the red dragon. Some say it is still coming. They claim that it is planet X. That does not look likely for Sept 23, 2017 so I am not sure what to do with that?<\/p>\n

The sign in heaven is not visible to people on the earth because the sun is in the sky when it appears. Some claim there will be a three-hour total eclipse caused by planet X and then the sign in the heavens will become visible from earth.<\/p>\n

Some say Planet X or a dwarf star is in an elliptical orbit with the sun and can’t usually be seen because it is behind the sun or very near the sun. They say the government knows about it, is preparing for it, and is covering it up. That seems pretty far-fetched to me but we will know by October.<\/p>\n

I do think that some of what Revelation is talking about can be explained by a large body interacting with the earth. This same body might have caused the flood and some events around the time of Exodus. Perhaps there is a large body with a long orbit around the sun that interacts with the earth every couple of thousand years.<\/p>\n

The sign probably portrays the Rapture of the Church. However, seeing the sign in heaven does not mean the Rapture will occur at that time. It just might be a sign for those watching that portrays that we have now entered the general season of its fulfillment. Remember, Jesus said that this day would not come upon the Church like a thief in the night but it would with others.<\/p>\n

Some make the mistake of saying that the Feast of Trumpets is the day of the Rapture. That is not likely. The feast days are for Israel, not the Gentile Church. I find it hard to believe that the Rapture and the seven-year covenant that Israel agrees to occurs on the same day. The Rapture is more likely to occur on an anniversary of a date significant for the Church, like Resurrection Sunday or Pentecost.<\/p>\n

I am surprised that the most well-known Bible prophecy teachers seem to be ignoring this.\u00a0I do think that you should be aware of this sign. If signs in the heavens have meaning, and I think they do, this is too rare of an event for it not to have prophetic meaning. If you want to look into the heavenly sign on Sept 23, 2017 yourself, there is a ton of information on YouTube.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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