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Jesus told Nicodemus that one must be born of the spirit to enter the kingdom of God. The claim that those born of the Spirit can lose their salvation is an oxymoron.\u00a0Those born into the spiritual body of Christ cannot become unborn. God does not disown the children that He spiritually created.<\/p>\n

John 3:5\u00a0 Jesus answered, Truly, truly, I say to you, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.<\/em>
\n6\u00a0 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Christians are born of the Spirit. However, most in Christendom today just have Christian identity.\u00a0Christian identity is deceptive; it is not the same thing as being born into the spiritual body of Christ.\u00a0Those born of the Spirit cannot be lost, but those with Christian identity can.<\/p>\n

The paradox where some believe that Christians can lose their salvation exists because some cannot see the distinction between Christian identity and those that are born in Christ (1Cor 12, 12-27). That which is flesh is flesh, this is the natural sinful fallen man. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit, this is the regenerated man. He is a new creature born into the body of Christ.<\/p>\n

2Co 5:17\u00a0 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature<\/strong>: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.<\/em><\/p>\n

The Bible is clear about how one becomes born of the Spirit. One must hear what God said about His Messiah and believe that the biblical Jesus is that Messiah and Son of God that God promised.<\/p>\n

John 11:25\u00a0 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:<\/em><\/strong>
\n26\u00a0 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?<\/em>
\n27\u00a0 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world<\/strong>.<\/em><\/p>\n

That statement is very clear. Those that trust in Jesus will live after their physical death. Martha’s response here to Jesus was spot on. She believed that Jesus was the Christ of God according to the scriptures. As did all the other disciples that believed Jesus was the Messiah (Christ). I assure you that none of those that believed Jesus was the Messiah were lost. Jesus does not lose the sheep given to Him by the Father.<\/p>\n

Some might say He lost Judas, however Judas was an unbeliever. He did not believe that Jesus was the Christ. Jesus choose Judas to be in His inner circle so that scripture could be fulfilled about his betrayal. Judas identified with Jesus but time proved that he had his own demonic agenda. Jesus specifically said that one of the twelve he chose was a devil (John 6:70).<\/p>\n

Many teachers want to complicate an issue that is not complicated at all. Mankind is saved by believing in the One that God sent into the world to take away sin. Those that have faith in God’s Messiah (Christ) for their salvation will be saved. They hear the word, they believe it, and they are born from above as new creatures in the body of Christ. The new spiritual man is of the same nature of the risen Christ, even through those born from above still exist in their fleshly nature until their body of flesh dies. They have a purpose to be left here, and that purpose is to proclaim the good news to others and be salt and light to the world until the Lord comes.<\/p>\n

At Pentecost 3000 people were saved. They were saved because they heard and believed what Peter proclaimed about the Messiah’s death and Resurrection. They did nothing to earn their salvation or to receive the Holy Spirit as evidence that they were born into Christ. They did no good works to receive this gift. They were not necessarily more moral people than others that did not believe. The difference between those that got saved and those that did not get saved that day, was that those saved heard what God said and believed. The Gospel has not changed, people are still saved by hearing what God said and believing in the Messiah that God revealed.<\/p>\n

We had nothing to do with the fall of man, nor God’s spiritual regeneration of man:<\/h3>\n

We are not responsible for being in fallen bodies of flesh that die, nor can we do anything to evolve the flesh into a godly nature worthy of eternal life. That is an important concept to understand. We are neither responsible for our fallen condition, nor are we able to remedy our condition through our own efforts. God has to do it. And God was merciful and righteous to provide that remedy for us.<\/p>\n

Descendants of Adam had no part in Adam’s fall into mortality, and descendants of Adam are not able to redeem themselves spiritually. Redemption is totally a work of God. Adam was created sinless, but He fell into sin. Because of sin Adam took on a mortal fleshly nature and died. Adam’s descendants inherited the same flesh nature.<\/p>\n

The only hope for man was that God would provide a Kinsman Redeemer to deliver us from these fleshly bodies that sin and die. That redemption was foretold in scripture. All we have to do is believe God and receive His gift of salvation through His Son.<\/p>\n

The second Adam sent from God did not have a human father. He was the begotten Son of God. His flesh nature came from His mother. He did not have Adam’s sinful nature because He was the Son of God. He redeemed mankind from sin through the sacrifice of his own human body on the cross to pay the blood price for mankind’s sin. By the disobedience of one man sin and death came into the world, and by the obedience of one man many shall be made righteous.<\/p>\n

Rom 5:19\u00a0 For as by one man\u2019s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.<\/em><\/p>\n

That is why God’s Messiah is called the last Adam and Kinsman Redeemer. He was sent to be the redeemer of the fallen human race. The price to be paid for all the sins of the human race was paid by the sinless last Adam’s perfect sacrifice for sin on the cross.<\/p>\n

Now all those born from above into the body of Christ through faith in what He did are His brethren. They are the redeemed human race. And they will soon carry out the plan that God has for the redeemed human race. Once humans are reborn into that new nature by trusting in the righteousness of God’s Messiah and Son, they cannot become unborn.<\/p>\n

What is the problem with those who think believers can be lost?<\/h3>\n

At least some of the confusion arises because people fail to understand that the New Testament gives instructions to both the visible church and the invisible church. We need to be able to make the distinction. The instructions in the letters to the visible churches on earth where not always addressing those in the invisible Church. Quite often it was addressing the visible church.<\/p>\n

In the wording to the visible churches the text makes it obvious that there were both believers and unbelievers within. Not all people in the visible churches on earth were born from above into the body of Christ. The New Testament text is clear that some did and would depart from the Church because they were not of the body of Christ.<\/p>\n

In two of the letters to seven visible church types in Revelation, the text indicates that most in these two churches were never saved. Those identifying with these visible churches still needed to overcome the world. Humans only overcome the world by the blood of the Lamb, and by being spiritually baptized into the Body of Christ.<\/p>\n

Being a member of a visible church does not save people because Christianity identity does not save people. True Christians are those born of the Spirit. There is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus (Rom 8:1).<\/p>\n

Rom 8:9\u00a0 But ye are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you. But if any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

If anyone identifying as a Christian was not born from above, they are not in the body of Christ. Believers can know they are saved. The Spirit gives witnesses with their spirit. Don’t let teachers with no understanding confuse you.<\/p>\n

The short story of man and his salvation:<\/h3>\n

All humans are born in sin. It is part of our inherited fallen human nature. In other words, the Bible teaches original sin. The fallen human nature is passed down to all descendants of Adam. That is why the Kinsman Redeemer could not have had a human father. Jesus was the last Adam (The Messiah the Son of God). Those born again into the new spiritual nature of this last Adam take on His sinless nature. (The sins of those born in Christ were covered by the blood of Christ.) They are then totally justified to receive everlasting life from God. Those that reject God’s Messiah will not have everlasting life.<\/p>\n

John 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.”<\/i><\/div>\n
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Some say the scripture says even the devils believe in God as some proof text that more than belief in Jesus is required for salvation. People misrepresent what this scripture actually says.<\/div>\n
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Jas 2:19\u00a0 Thou believest that there is one God;<\/strong> thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.<\/em><\/div>\n

The Jews said there was one God in contrast to the Gentile nation that said there were many Gods. The Jews thought that just believing that YHWH was God would save their nation. However, believing that YHWH is God does not equate to salvation. Even the devils knows that YHWH exists. He is the Creator of all. However, devils also know that Jesus died to redeem the sons of Adam. They know He did not come into the world to redeem devils. We are told that the Lake of Fire was created for the Devil and his angels. So devils already know their fate. How then can devils be redeemed by believing that Jesus is the Son of God? They cannot. Jesus did not come to redeem evil spirits already condemned. He came to redeem the human race. Even so, devil’s do know that there is one God.
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What then is James saying in full context of his faith without works is dead faith sermon? What he was saying is simply is this: If there is no evidence in your life of being born of the Spirit, where is the great faith that you proclaiming demonstrated? James was not saying that works were required to be saved. He was saying that spiritual works are the innate result and evidence of salvation. James was not saying that more than belief in the Messiah was required for salvation. He was saying that Christian faith is demonstrated to others in their works.<\/p>\n

The bottom line is this, don’t let teachers in Christendum confuse you and take away the joy of your salvation by adding doubt and confusion. If you trust in Jesus to save you, you have scriptural assurance that you will be saved. Christians are born of the Spirit. Those spirituality born of God cannot become unborn. God does not create mistakes.<\/p>\n

Having said that, do not be deceived. Christian identity is deceptive. Those saying that they believe in Jesus, but deny the teachings found in the Bible are not true believers. They are hypocrites. Without believing scripture they have absolutely no foundation to even claim to know or be in Christ. They simply are not Christians even if they say they are.<\/p>\n

Also keep in mind, that your denomination or the building that you attend is not the Church. The visible church in general has more unbelievers in it than it has believers. We are told to assemble with believers, but first you have to find them. These are not necessarily found in the services of the most popular visible churches. I suggest that believers learn how to find a good visible church<\/a><\/strong>. It is where the most believers will be found, but even in the best visible churches you will have to seek out the true believers.<\/p>\n

I hope this article will help people who were put under condemnation by others in the visible churches. In many cases, the most predominate visible denominations and churches have degenerated into the blind leading the blind.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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