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Many thousands of books have been written on Bible prophecy but none of the books totally agree with all the points of any of the others unless they were plagiarized. I am talking about serious students of God’s word.\u00a0Let’s not even consider those false teachers that think they can interpret Bible prophecy through extra-biblical conjectures.<\/p>\n

Have you ever wondered why so many Bible prophecy teachers that study God’s word cannot agree on major points of eschatology? Maybe it is by design. Maybe God does not intend for anyone to know just how everything will literally play out. After all, if the rulers of the age had known that the death of Jesus on the Cross would defeat them, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory (1Co 2:8).<\/p>\n

That was just one example of why God does not make things easy for those wise in their own eyes to know His plan. Remember, that Jesus spoke in parables so that the sons of the Devil leading Israel would not understand what He was teaching (Lu 8:10).<\/p>\n

Similarly, the Lord does not want the beings that are now ruling over the nations to know things that are still veiled. If they knew how things would play out, they would attempt to change things so that it could not happen as written. With the plain reading of the scriptures that they had access to, the Satanic rulers of the world did try to do that in Old Testament times. Even so, the plain reading of scriptures did not\u00a0 give them understanding. There were mysteries hidden in God’s word that they could not understand. That continues today.<\/p>\n

If the satanic rulers actually knew when the Day of the Lord would take place, they would be better prepared to oppose God’s angels that will carry out His plan. Before any good king goes to war against an enemies kingdom he will first secretly remove subjects loyal to him so that they will not be held hostage (Rapture). He will then kick out of his own kingdom those with loyalty to the enemy so they will not be subversive (Rev 12 7-9).<\/p>\n

1Th 5:4 indicates that unbelievers will be in darkness and the Day of the Lord will come upon them as a thief. It says they will be saying peace and security at that time. Jesus said it would be like in the days of Noah and the days of Lot. The people were totally unaware that judgment was coming. It came suddenly and unexpectedly.<\/p>\n

There is a distinction in that text for believers. It says that believers would not be in darkness\u00a0that this day should overtake them as a thief. Obviously then, true believers will know the general time and be watching and waiting for their redemption. However, the world will be totally clueless. That is the condition of the unbelieving world today.<\/p>\n

Much of the fine details of how the Day of the Lord will play out will probably escape believers but all the details of scripture will be fulfilled exactly as God intended for them to be fulfilled. That is not necessarily the way that Bible prophecy teachers presumes that it will.<\/p>\n

Many Bible prophecy teachers are really watchmen on the wall. These make a mistake to think that seeing dust on the horizon qualifies them to give the Church all the future battle details.<\/p>\n

I have to laugh when I watch so-called Bible prophecy experts teach their own presumptions as if they were gospel truth. Many of the “experts” agree on nothing except that the time is short and that they need to sell people something. They all see a battle is coming against the forces of darkness but each one contrives their own unique script to sell.<\/p>\n

One prime example is Jack Van Impe. I don’t mean to pick on Jack but he is the most watched Bible prophecy teacher on the media. Van Impe is a watchmen that has warned people for decades. That is commendable. However, Van Impe has also taught the details of how it will all play out for well over fifty years. However, his details of how it will play out and when, continue to be consistently wrong. He takes scriptures out of context to make them fit his own opinions and presumptions.<\/p>\n

In a recent program, I observed that Van Impe taught that the Ezekiel 38 war, the Psalm 83 war, the Kings of the East invasion and Armageddon will all be fulled as Russia invades Israel. I do not see any such presumption being taught anywhere in scripture.<\/p>\n

In other words what Jack is saying is contrived from his own presumptions. I guess the biblically illiterate will not know the difference. However, if Christians actually read the biblical texts that Van Impe quotes with its context, they should see that Jack is mixing apples and oranges (different events) to vend out his latest concoction that the tribulation starts next year and that Russia is now ready to start it all.<\/p>\n

That presumption of Van Impe started not long after Russia formed the Soviet Union, but, when the Soviet Union did not work out, the presumption was transferred to Putin. Russia could come down against Israel at some point but Van Impe’s presumptions about how these events play out does not make much sense from the biblical text.<\/p>\n

There are hundreds of other examples of Bible prophecy teachers that teach their presumptions and contrived opinions as if they were infallible truths. I might even seem to do it myself at times, but usually I am giving an argument for what I believe, or just presenting a thought-provoking argument for people to chew on. I usually am not being dogmatic. If I am, take it with a grain of salt. Much of Bible prophecy is not as cut and dry as most Bible prophecy teachers lead you to believe.<\/p>\n

It seems that once an author publishes a book on Bible prophecy, it then is defended by the author as if his teaching were inerrant truth. Have you ever had a Bible prophecy author tell you that what he had taught was wrong? There are a few, but they are very rare. More often a sequel will follow that just says the same thing in different words.<\/p>\n

I have news. Those that teach Bible prophecy have the same texts that are available to everyone else. Their interpretations are not infallible. Not even close! They might sound convincing until someone else comes along that sounds more convincing. Anyone that claims to know everything about Bible prophecy is not someone who Christians should be believing.<\/p>\n

Perhaps God has not made Bible prophecy perfectly clear in scripture because He did not want to make it perfectly clear. The different possible interpretations are probably there for a reason. That also may be true of other conflicting theologies. People get too presumptions. They tend to put God in a box that really is a box of their own design.<\/p>\n

Here are a couple of examples of how we can be presumptuous: Does the Bible teach a pre-trib Rapture when all in the Church are removed from the earth? If so, then why is only one of the seven church types mentioned in Revelation as being kept out of the tribulation (Rev 3:10)?<\/p>\n

What was unique to that Church type is that they were watching and waiting for the Lord’s return and they were pleasing God. The same can be said about the pre-flood types. Enoch was taken alive to heaven before the flood judgment because he was walking with God. The rest died in the flood but a few were delivered through the flood to repopulate the earth. The same thing will happen in the Day of the Lord judgement.<\/p>\n

I am not suggesting a partial Rapture of the Body of Christ. I am suggesting that many calling themselves believers are not in the spiritual Body of Christ at all at the time of the Rapture. They will not go in it. They are not walking with God like Enoch. There is no Holy Spirit in them. Yet, many of these will be saved but through the fires of the tribulation. Are believers in the tribulation part of the Church even though they missed the Rapture? That seems likely. The pre-trib Rapture view is correct and so is the view that believers will go through the tribulation. Both will happen. What you\u00a0 believe about the timing of it comes from your own perspective.<\/p>\n

Suppose Abraham believed that the promises to him would be fulfilled even if He rejected what YHWH told Him to do. Would YHWH still have made Abraham the Father of all people of faith even if Abraham rebelled against YHWH after the initial promise was given? I think not. I think YHWH would have started over with someone else like He threatened to do with Moses.<\/p>\n

The Sons of Abraham were to be a unique nation of priests that trusted in God and lived by faith. They were to be a light to the nations. God never would have tolerated rebels. He proved that in Exodus. All descendants of Jacob were given the promise but those that rebelled against God in the desert never lived to see the promised land. Of course this is all hypothetical, God knew Abraham would be the father of His people of faith before the foundation of the earth. Yet, predestination and free will are both true. If Abraham had rebelled against God, He would have reaped the consequences.<\/p>\n

One of the reasons for contradicting theologies that all seem to be founded on scripture is that they may be necessary. The ways of God are not man’s ways. We should not be too presumptions about anything. God will not be put in a human made box. He does what He pleases. Don’t presume that you will be one of those saved by YHWH if you are one of those rebelling against Him.<\/p>\n

Likewise, we should not assume that we will be going in a pretribulation Rapture if we confessed Jesus with our mouth but love in our heart what God condemns.<\/p>\n

You might keep in mind that YHWH of the OT and Jesus are the same being. YHWH did not need to become flesh in order to have a social intervention to make Him become more merciful to humans. He was always merciful. Jesus showed us God. He did not modify or replace God. Jesus is not the softer feminized version of God that we find in many churches.<\/p>\n

Don’t assume that you can reject YHWH and be one of the sons of disobedience and still be saved because you said the sinners prayer. This is man’s thinking, it is not God’s thinking. As the scripture says, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling because if God did not spare the angels that sinned He might not spare you either if you are found to be in rebellion against Him.<\/p>\n

So what am I saying? I do not have a clue, but, I think it needs to be said. Certainly, Jesus will save those that put their trust in Him, but don’t be too presumptions about His choice to do that. You have to choose to receive Jesus as your Lord and that choice requires some degree of obedience to Him as your Lord even if you tend to be brain-dead.<\/p>\n

It is the same with Bible prophecy. God will follow the script that He wrote, but He may not follow the script that Bible prophecy teachers wrote when they interpreted and contrived theories about what He wrote. Do your best to sort out conflicts and theologies but don’t presume that you are the only Christian doing it or that God is required to act according to any of our presumptions. One might choose to believe something that others just cannot buy. That is okay. We are not going to agree on all things.<\/p>\n

If some of the modern media Bible prophecy teachers believed half of what they teach about the end coming in the next year or two they would not be asking for money to help build their Bible prophecy empire and they would not be now writing or planning their sequels. They do Bible Prophecy speculation for a living. Being wrong is not going to stop most of them.<\/p>\n

Let’s give charity to those that might not see things the way some of us presumptions people just know it has to happen. We even could have it wrong. It could be that conflicting views give different aspects of the same truth. And that God wanted that\u00a0ambiguity in the scriptures so the sons of the Devil will remain totally confused and lost and never come to the knowledge of salvation or the knowledge of the events of the Heir’s coming to take possession of the earth.<\/p>\n

Now are you totally confused? I know I am after watching a number of Bible prophecy teachers on YouTube.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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