{"id":1206,"date":"2008-08-23T23:56:22","date_gmt":"2008-08-24T04:56:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/2008\/08\/23\/coach-dave-daubenmire-chides-rick-warren-for-using-the-wrong-playbook.html"},"modified":"2026-02-12T04:00:59","modified_gmt":"2026-02-12T10:00:59","slug":"coach-dave-daubenmire-chides-rick-warren-for-using-the-wrong-playbook","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/coach-dave-daubenmire-chides-rick-warren-for-using-the-wrong-playbook.html","title":{"rendered":"Coach Dave Daubenmire chides Rick Warren for using the wrong playbook"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I was waiting for someone to go on the biblical offensive and get it right about the political forum at Saddleback led be pastor Rick Warren. Coach Dave Daubenmire single handed takes out the whole defensive line of Rick Warren in this article. The Coach really defines in this article the whole problem with this superstar and his whole team.<\/p>\n<p>All I heard from most Evangelical leaders was how great this political forum was but few mentioned that &#8220;America&#8217;s Pastor&#8221; is not even using the Christian playbook, he is using the playbook of the losing team. What gospel was heard from &#8220;America&#8217;s Pastor&#8221;? The gospel of which politician has the best band-aids to fix a nation already condemned without Christ?<\/p>\n<p>To prove once again the weakness of this New Evangelical offense, Rick Warren again gets the opportunity to go on Larry King and again misses the opportunity to share the Gospel to anyone, but Bill Maher goes on Larry King and he fully explains quite aptly to the whole world why he mocks Christianity. Where is the Christian witness of America&#8217;s CFR superstar pastor on these world platforms he is given? Where is the call of the nation to repentance? Where is the call to reject evil and to turn to Christ? Is anyone getting this?<\/p>\n<p>Couch Daubenmire skillfully explains in this article <strong>how sin causes the aids, the poverty, the abortions and the other social problems in the world<\/strong>. Deal with the sin and you will cure the social problems. Treating the symptoms of what evil produces is not going to fix the world. Some Christians have got their worldly cart before the heavenly white horse rider? Read the article, if you still don&#8217;t get it you may be one reason why Rick Warren is still &#8220;America&#8217;s Pastor&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20240926013736\/https:\/\/newswithviews.com\/Daubenmire\/dave125.htm\">Dave Daubenmire &#8212; Does Evil Exist?<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>That was the defining question asked by Pastor Rick Warren at his \u201cChristian\u201d forum the other night.<\/p>\n<p>Even though both candidates disagreed on how evil should be dealt with, both McCain and Obama made it clear that they believe there is such a force.<\/p>\n<p>Seeing how this was a debate involving self-proclaimed Christians, in a Christian church, hosted by a Christian pastor, this was a great opportunity for America\u2019s leading evangelical to define for all America the root cause of our nation\u2019s problems.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, Pastor Warren moved on to climate change, adoption, and other peripheral issues. Perhaps I am wrong, but I would expect \u201cAmerica\u2019s Pastor\u201d to handle the debate in a manner that would reflect the attitude of the Berean Christians who \u201csearched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.\u201d Sadly, Pastor Warren looked more like Tom Brokaw than John the Baptist.<\/p>\n<p>How could a Christian pastor not more aggressively defend the Cross? Why are CNN, Time Magazine and the God-hating media fawning over this \u201cevangelical\u201d pastor? Could it be that they love his non-judgmental form of Christianity? Are you aware that Rick Warren is drifting towards an affiliation with \u201cthe religious left.\u201d From a political perspective, &#8220;left&#8221; usually is a synonym for \u201cliberal\u201d or \u201csocialist\u201d, while \u201cright\u201d refers to \u201cconservatives\u201d or \u201ccapitalist.\u201d The \u201cleft\u201d believes that government is the answer to most of America\u2019s problems, while the \u201cright\u201d believes that government IS the problem.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20240926013736\/https:\/\/newswithviews.com\/Daubenmire\/dave125.htm\"><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Government is replacing God and Pastor Warren is leading God\u2019s ouster. The same group that loves to scream \u201cseparation of church and state\u201d wants the government to determine morality. Abortion is moral, global warming is immoral. Homosexual sex is moral, lack of AIDS funding is immoral. Shacking up is moral, failure by taxpayers to pay for fatherless children is immoral. Failure to drill for oil is moral, driving a car is immoral.<\/p>\n<p>The religious left wants to treat the symptoms. Our pastors should be fighting to eliminating the cause.<\/p>\n<p>Monday night Rick Warren was on with Larry King. Once again he failed to clearly share the Gospel. Larry King is lost. If I were on his show I would tell him so. I would pin him down. I would make him uncomfortable. He is heading towards a future without God. He would never invite me on the show again. Maybe that\u2019s why Warren swallowed his tongue. The fear of man is a snare\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Last night the God-mocking Bill Maher was Larry\u2019s guest. He made fun of God. He poked fun at Christianity. He is a radical fundamental secularist. He wants God driven from America. He wasn\u2019t worried about offending anyone. He is proud of his agnosticism.<\/p>\n<p>Maher was prouder of his lies than Warren was of God\u2019s Truth. For an hour Maher preached the foolishness of Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>Warren spoke of global warming, AIDS, and adoption. He failed to mention sin. He never talked about the need for repentance and redemption He speaks only of treating symptoms.<\/p>\n<p>Maher thinks Christianity is evil. He doesn\u2019t believe in sin. Warren believes in sin, he just doesn\u2019t think it is evil.<\/p>\n<p>Evil exists alright. The problem we face is how to recognize it. Sadly, before the whole world Warren came up empty. He hid the Light under the bushel of politics.<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes I wonder who the real enemy is.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20240926013736\/https:\/\/newswithviews.com\/Daubenmire\/dave125.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Full Article<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was waiting for someone to go on the biblical offensive and get it right about the political forum at Saddleback led be pastor Rick Warren. Coach Dave Daubenmire single handed takes out the whole defensive line of Rick Warren in this article. 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