{"id":599,"date":"2007-11-01T00:18:00","date_gmt":"2007-11-01T00:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/?p=599"},"modified":"2015-12-29T15:57:23","modified_gmt":"2015-12-29T21:57:23","slug":"seeker-friendly-church-leader-admits-they-have-done-it-all-wrong-cwn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/seeker-friendly-church-leader-admits-they-have-done-it-all-wrong-cwn.html","title":{"rendered":"Seeker Friendly Church Leader Admits They Have Done It All Wrong"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>I  know some of you are going to find this totally incredible but the  granddaddy of the seeker movement, Bill Hybels, has come out and said  that the seeker churches made a mistake, it does not work.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Perhaps the most shocking thing of all in this revelation coming out of Willow Creek is in a summary statement by Greg Hawkins:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Our dream is that we fundamentally change the way we do church. That  we take out a clean sheet of paper and we rethink all of our old  assumptions. Replace it with new insights. Insights that are informed by  research and rooted in Scripture. Our dream is really to discover what  God is doing and how he\u2019s asking us to transform this planet.<\/p>\n<p>Isn\u2019t that what we were told when this whole seeker-sensitive thing  started? The church growth gurus again want to throw away their old  assumptions and \u201ctake out a clean sheet of paper\u201d and, presumably, come  up with a new paradigm for ministry.<br \/>\nShould this be encouraging?&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Here  we are again back to rethinking. Is there any tie in with the paradigm, any tie in with Robert Schuller&#8217;s rethinking  conference? Is this rethinking movement now going to replace the seeker  movement with something even worse. Is that their paradigm shift? Stay  tuned.<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.moriel.org\/articles-new\/2015-12-06-13-31-51\/bill-alnor\/item\/673-seeker-friendly-church-leader-admits-they-have-done-it-all-wrong.html\">Seeker Friendly Church Leader Admits They Have Done It All Wrong <\/a>: &#8220;If you simply want a crowd, the \u201cseeker sensitive\u201d model produces results. If you want solid, sincere, mature followers of Christ, it\u2019s a bust.<\/p>\n<p>In a shocking confession, Hybels states: We made a mistake. What we should have done when people crossed the line of faith and become Christians, we should have started telling people and teaching people that they have to take responsibility to become \u2018self feeders.\u2019 We should have gotten people, taught people, how to read their bible between services, how to do the spiritual practices much more aggressively on their own. Incredibly, the guru of church growth now tells us that people need to be reading their bibles and taking responsibility for their spiritual growth. &#8220;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I know some of you are going to find this totally incredible but the granddaddy of the seeker movement, Bill Hybels, has come out and said that the seeker churches made a mistake, it does not work. &#8220;Perhaps the most shocking thing of all in this revelation coming out of Willow Creek is in a [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[67,63],"class_list":["post-599","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-church-movements","tag-church-growth","tag-seeker-movement"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pawsE-9F","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/599","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=599"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/599\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=599"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=599"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=599"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}