{"id":6161,"date":"2014-05-19T18:11:47","date_gmt":"2014-05-19T23:11:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/?p=6161"},"modified":"2024-05-26T04:09:45","modified_gmt":"2024-05-26T09:09:45","slug":"a-few-recent-intresting-emails-answered-by-don-koenig","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/a-few-recent-intresting-emails-answered-by-don-koenig.html","title":{"rendered":"A few recent interesting emails answered by Don Koenig"},"content":{"rendered":"
Don:\u00a0 \u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n
I am studying the feast period between Pentecost, Trumpets and Atonement.\u00a0 Specifically, \u00a0I am presently focusing on the day counts and prophetic implications between Trumpets and Atonement.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/div>\n
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Messiah Yeshua<\/span><\/span> fulfilled the Spring feasts to the day.\u00a0 It seems that the day count ended with Pentecost and that the period between Pentecost and Atonement may be days of years as in the case of Daniel’s 70th week.\u00a0 <\/span><\/div>\n
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There are 10 days between Trumpets and Atonement.\u00a0 Most expect that Daniel’s 70th week will occur prophetically during these 10 days\/years.\u00a0 Mainstream biblical scholars (pre-trib<\/span><\/span>\/millenialists<\/span><\/span>) say that Daniel’s week happens here. \u00a0\u00a0I would agree.<\/span><\/div>\n
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If that is true, then Daniel’s week accounts for 7 days of years. \u00a0Prophetically, 3 days are missing.\u00a0 Are these days or years of days ? \u00a0The pattern would suggest days of years. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Leviticus says little about Trumpets.\u00a0\u00a0 It is a Sabbath, a memorial day for the blowing of trumpets, an holy<\/span><\/span> convocation.\u00a0\u00a0 So, three prophetic days are missing.\u00a0 Are these three days of years?\u00a0 Do we look for a \u00a0prophetic 10 day\/year period.\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0God is exacting and all scripture is mathematically perfect.\u00a0 God does not waste words or numbers.\u00a0 All has meaning.\u00a0 God is consistent with His use of patterns.\u00a0 He wants us to search out the Word and know. \u00a0Amos 3:7, Proverbs 25:2<\/span><\/div>\n
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Nevertheless, no one addresses the 10 days of Awe in a prophetic manner as they do for the Spring Festival First Coming of our Lord.<\/span><\/div>\n
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What are your thoughts on these 10 days between Trumpets and Atonement and Daniel’s week ?\u00a0 I cannot find much of any discussion on this concept. <\/span><\/div>\n
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It seems to me that it should be a 10-day\/year period from a prophetic pattern of usage. \u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n
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I am of the belief that the period of 2017-2024 is a likely candidate for Daniel’s week for so many reasons.\u00a0 If so, 2014 would be the beginning of the 10 days\/years period.<\/span><\/div>\n
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We are most definitely in the season of Daniel’s 2,520 days\/years (360 day prophetic years):<\/span><\/div>\n
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Jews return Babylon 537 BC + 2,520 years = 1948 Israel Independence<\/span><\/div>\n
Rebuild Jerusalem 518BC<\/span><\/span> + 2,520 years = 1967 East Jerusalem captured <\/span><\/div>\n
2017 will be 70 years from UN Partition to create Israel 11-29-47<\/span><\/div>\n
2017 will be 50 years from Jerusalem recovery<\/span><\/div>\n
2017 possible Yovel<\/span><\/span> year corresponding to 1967(E. Jerusalem) and 1917 (Balfour)<\/span><\/div>\n
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Don’s answer:<\/strong><\/p>\n

I explain in my Revelation Commentary that I think there will be 10.5 years from the start of seals until the end. That would kind of line up with the 10 day (years) of awe or woe. The first 3.5 years would be the first seals of Revelation and a time of great trouble on earth caused by the wars of man (not the wrath of God). (Sort of a Satanic led counterfeit tribulation before the real judgments of God even occur.)<\/span><\/h4>\n

I think the last seven years starts with the 6th seal and with the sealing<\/span> of the 144,000 Israeli’s and then we see the wrath of the Lamb (Trumpets). These judgments come because of what the great Harlot of Revelation 17 did to believers. They killed Bible believers thinking that they were doing God a favor (fifth seal). The Trump judgments will be followed by the wrath of God because of the Antichrist’s persecution of Israel (vials).
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My conjecture is that seven years after the start of a great world war the religious people of the world will be looking for their own concept of a Christ to appear. They will be wide open for the false counterfeit Christ after he kills the two prophets of God that will be telling the world about the Jewish Kingdom is coming. The Harlot with Replacement Theology will not accept that Christ is going to establish his Kingdom on earth with literal Jews.
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I think the world very will could label these two Jewish prophets “the Antichrist” and “his false prophet”. That is why the whole world will be rejoicing after the two prophets are killed. The world will actually think the tribulation is over and that they have achieved the Kingdom age. At that time, the counterfeit Christ and his false prophet will then play out their role for 42 months during the Day of the Lord. The world did not want to believe the truth as told by God’s prophets and His witnesses so they will be deceived to believe a lie.<\/span><\/h4>\n

Other than that parallel, I do not speculate about the days of awe.<\/h4>\n

Just by looking at how the world stage is set up (or actually not quite yet set up). I think you are about ten years too soon for the start of Daniel’s 70th week. I do not think that you can rely on our solar calendars for those kinds of dating speculation. The late Grant Jeffrey, tried to do that mostly using the lunar calendar in his book “Armageddon Appointment With Destiny” but he had the Rapture coming in 1993 and the second coming in 2000 AD. Anyway, that is my take.<\/h4>\n

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Hello Mr. Koenig,<\/p>\n

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\u00a0\u00a0 I found your website this evening in a study of Revelation that I have been undertaking.\u00a0 After a cursory glance of your views on chapter 17, the chapter I am studying this evening, to make sure your not another nutcase (let’s just say I have found a few) I proceeded to inspect some of your other pages and found your statement of faith. I read through the whole thing with only 2 surprises and I wonder if you would be so kind as to permit a stranger to inquire about them?<\/div>\n
\u00a0\u00a0 Firstly, the demon Nephilim<\/span> connection kind of caught me off guard. I can’t say I have ever noticed a set of Scripture to lead me to infer such an idea, but what I consider to be the validity of your statements up to that point gave me pause to consider that I might should keep reading. Finding only 1 area past this that again gave me any further pause I must ask, how did you come to this conclusion?<\/div>\n
\u00a0\u00a0 Now, my second question. Concerning the rapture, I take it you believe in a pre tribulation rapture? I read it to be more pre wrath, and I must say that I come to that conclusion by no snap judgement. Yet, so many of the men that I have honestly come to respect and trust on so many other issues hold this same view that I begin to wonder, what am I missing? As I said, I simply read and seek to discern through the prompting of the Holy Spirit and yet I come to a separate conclusion.<\/div>\n
\u00a0\u00a0 Of course, this is no great calamity such as could cause me to be gravely concerned. I would not permit such a difference of opinion (and I see it perhaps no more strongly than as that, opinion) to cause division among my self my fellow true believers. This is not a salvation issue. It’s just that, this happens so often that I am driven to reach out. I have posed this question to my pastor and we are to meet to discuss it. I further pose this question to you now: When will Christ collect his true believers, and what scripture supports your view?<\/div>\n

Please forgive me if I have stepped beyond curious and cordial into an area which I do not wish to tread. Thank you exceedingly for your time and your patience.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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Don’s answer:<\/strong>
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The best way to explain my position is to point you to articles that I wrote on the theology. <\/span>This article is quite recent and of course this interpretation of 2Th 2:3 is not set in stone.<\/span><\/h4>\n

https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/2th-23-and-other-teachings-of-paul-indicate-pretrib-rapture.html<\/a><\/h4>\n

This other article I wrote over ten years ago gives many proofs for the pre-trib Rapture view.<\/span><\/h4>\n

Proofs for the pretribulation rapture<\/a><\/span><\/h4>\n

The Pre-Trib Research Center –<\/a> website gives a wealth of information on the pre-trib Rapture view under the “articles” pull down menu.<\/h4>\n

On the other issue, here is an article about the Nephilim that I wrote<\/span><\/h4>\n

Aliens from outer space or the great deception?<\/a><\/h4>\n

And the most downloaded article on my Blog gives background on the same subject. <\/span>You might want to read the many comments.<\/h4>\n

The Book of Enoch and Bible prophecy<\/a><\/h4>\n

By the way, the link to http:\/\/www.alienresistance.org\/<\/a> website in that post is not broken it just sometimes takes a long time to load.<\/h4>\n
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Good afternoon.<\/p>\n

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Just a quick question , how many states are involved in the Mediterranean Union at the moment? I\u2019ve been out of touch with End-Time Prophecy for quite a while and now trying to catch up on this interesting article off your website. As far as I understand it, there are 15 currently and wondering this is correct\u2026\u2026thus according to Bible reference there should be 10 in total. This means 5 from the Middle East and 5 from Western\/Eastern Europe? <\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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Don’s Answer:<\/strong><\/div>\n
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There are 28 members of the EU last I heard. The ten kings or horns could be ten zones within the EU or ten world zones. Both have been proposed.<\/span><\/h4>\n

<\/span>You might be interested in the article I wrote that relates to the issue.<\/span><\/h4>\n

https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/in-gods-eyes-the-roman-fourth-beast-still-rules-the-world.html<\/a><\/span><\/h4>\n
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Something I cannot make sense of is in Revelation where it says the bride will reign and rule with Christ. There will be millions if not billions in the church\/bride. How can that many rule and reign? \u00a0It hardly seems practical. Especially since not that many will enter the millennial kingdom, initially. Any ideas?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Don’s Answer:<\/strong><\/div>\n

In a parable Jesus said faithful servants would be given authority over a different number of cities as a reward for faithful service. Some that had their rewards taken away will be given no direct authority but they will still be part of the Lord’s administration that is ruling and reigning over those on earth. Most immortals probably will be living in the Holy City that may be orbiting above the earth.

Many will be doing some of the same roles that angels do today but they will be physical immortal beings that will be interacting with mortal people on earth. At that time, those with rewards of authority may be given authority over 10, others over 100, others over 1000, and some others will be given authority over entire cities and nations. Also keep in mind, that under the near perfect conditions on earth and the long life spans there could easily be 100 billion mortal people living on the earth after several generations.

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Dear Don,<\/p>\n

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Would you check out this article and let me know your thoughts on it? I didn’t want to post it on your website as it comes to a differing conclusion than the one you support, less I be called a contrarian. Rather, I just want to know what all studied parties consider of the differing evidence. This search started from my recently reading Josephus where he talks of Magog being the Scythians. This article was actually the first that came up on a Google search of the topic.<\/div>\n
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New Scientific Evidence for God: Debunking the Russia\/War of Gog and Magog Myth<\/a><\/div>\n

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Don’s answer:<\/strong><\/p>\n

I would not set anything in stone about any of this but this is not a new argument. However, most of the best scholars see Russia as the leader.

For example, there is this scholarly work http:\/\/jonruthven.org\/rosh.pdf<\/a>.\u00a0 Dr. Ruthven read my article on Russia and he emailed me and said I had it correct. It seems the person that wrote that article claims everything that does not fit his theory “is a forgery”. That just does not seems credible. Who can prove or disprove what is a forgery from documents written centuries ago?

Muslim Antichrist proponents have come up with Turkey rather than Russia but their case is weak and Turkey is coming with Russia anyway.

The writer, apparently thinks Gog will come with Europe. It very well may include a large part of Europe. Tribes mention in the passage can be traced all the way to the Germans. That is why Hal Lindsey thought the Soviet Union would fulfill this invasion in the 1980’s the East Germans were in the Soviet Union. I do not rule out that Russian influence will expand to most of Europe once again before this invasion takes place.<\/h4>\n

Even so, Tarshish and the young lions question this invasion. That most likely is England and all the young nations that were once led by her (the commonwealth nations and the U.S.).

There are great difficulties making the Gog war and the war of Armageddon the same war. The description of each war in the Bible is quite different and the battle and armies are destroyed in different locations. There are many reasons why they cannot be the same battle but I do not have the time to get into them. You can research that on the Internet.

Also, keep in mind that Daniel states that the king of north and the king of the east will come against what we assume to be the Antichrist. If the king of the north were the Antichrist that would not make sense.

Best wishes on your research,<\/h4>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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