{"id":767,"date":"2008-02-01T19:30:03","date_gmt":"2008-02-02T00:30:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/2008\/02\/01\/ron-bells-velvet-elvis-is-a-social-gospel.html"},"modified":"2016-01-01T14:02:05","modified_gmt":"2016-01-01T20:02:05","slug":"ron-bells-velvet-elvis-is-a-social-gospel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/ron-bells-velvet-elvis-is-a-social-gospel.html","title":{"rendered":"Ron Bell&#8217;s Velvet Elvis is a postmodern social gospel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Bob DeWaay does a good job in this article explaining the teaching of Ron Bell in &#8220;Velvet Elvis&#8221; and debunking them.\u00a0 All I\u00a0will add is that the American Church is heading for big trouble\u00a0if\u00a0young &#8220;Christians&#8221;\u00a0keep following these postmodern\u00a0leaders that have no regard for sound biblical\u00a0doctrine.<\/p>\n<table style=\"clear: left; background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% #ffffff; margin: 12px 0px; width: 100%; color: #333333; font-family: arial; border: 4px solid #e5e5e5;\" width=\"100%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">\n<table class=\"CM_CTB_Content_Wrap\" style=\"margin: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; padding: 0px;\" width=\"100%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">\n<table style=\"font-size: 10px; background-image: url('http:\/\/clipmarks.com\/images\/source-bg.gif'); margin-bottom: 8px; padding-bottom: 4px; vertical-align: middle; color: #666666; line-height: 24px; border-bottom: 1px solid #dcdcdc; background-repeat: repeat-x; white-space: nowrap; height: 24px; background-color: #eeeeee;\" width=\"100%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">clipped from <a style=\"font-size: 11px;\" title=\"http:\/\/www.christianworldviewnetwork.com\/article.php\/3023\/Bob_DeWaay\" href=\"http:\/\/cicministry.org\/commentary\/issue104.htm\">Critical issues commentary<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<table style=\"background: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; margin: 4px 0px 8px; text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px 0px 8px;\" width=\"100%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">\n<blockquote><p><!-- CLIPPED FROM: http:\/\/www.christianworldviewnetwork.com\/article.php\/3023\/Bob_DeWaay -->For the past two years I have researched the theology of the Emergent Church in preparation for a book I am writing. During that time I ignored Rob Bell&#8217;s <em>Velvet Elvis<\/em> because I was concentrating on other works of postmodern theology. Then someone loaned me Bell&#8217;s video in which he uses subatomic physics to try to prove that, &#8220;everything is spiritual.&#8221; After viewing it, I saw how seriously he is leading people astray. On a recent trip I finally read <em>Velvet Elvis<\/em>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<table style=\"background: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; margin: 4px 0px 8px; text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px 0px 8px;\" width=\"100%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">\n<blockquote><p><!-- CLIPPED FROM: http:\/\/www.christianworldviewnetwork.com\/article.php\/3023\/Bob_DeWaay -->Having established that we cannot validly know enough to build a wall or foundation with theological bricks, Bell invites us on a journey. But how do we know that a Christian journey is a better one than a Muslim one? For Bell we don&#8217;t. We know that Christian ethics and social action are very good things and if we engage in these practices our Muslim neighbors will be better off even if they stay Muslim. Says Bell, &#8220;Another truth [remember this means &#8220;mystery&#8221; for Bell] about the church we&#8217;re embracing is that the gospel is good news, especially for those who don&#8217;t believe it.&#8221;[vi] He claims we need to quit trying to convert people and just change the world for better: &#8220;Jesus lives; here&#8217;s a toaster.&#8221;[vii] Bell&#8217;s trampoline analogy starts out with a neo-orthodox understanding of a &#8220;leap&#8221; and ends in the social gospel. 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