{"id":957,"date":"2008-05-22T14:49:43","date_gmt":"2008-05-22T19:49:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/2008\/05\/22\/sheep-will-have-no-direction-without-shepherds.html"},"modified":"2026-02-11T03:41:24","modified_gmt":"2026-02-11T09:41:24","slug":"sheep-will-have-no-direction-without-shepherds","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/sheep-will-have-no-direction-without-shepherds.html","title":{"rendered":"Sheep will have no direction without Shepherds"},"content":{"rendered":"
I have often heard pastors tell the sheep in the pews that they need to get busy because God works through them as well. That is true, but sheep do not lead they follow. Perhaps your people are not doing anything but warming the pews because you have not provided them a spiritual battle plan. How many are even giving their onward Christian soldiers a weekly briefing on issues of our day like those found in the quote of Dave Daubenmire below?<\/p>\n

I think we have all heard enough of your canned applications for living a Christian life. Now we need leaders who know how to take the high ground and be steadfast against the amorality and heresies of our day that are perverting our nation and our churches.<\/p>\n

You have no idea how many Christians tell me that they are totally fed up with churches and do not wish to attend them. Frankly, I find that I can not even defend the Western concept of church. How did the Church of God become a Sunday ritual or a weekly entertainment service?<\/p>\n

The Church is the Body of Christ on earth. We are God’s representatives and not a service or a building!\u00a0 I think all Western church leaders should be required to spend one month in a third world Christian church, preferably one under persecution, and then we might see biblical Christianity being taught and enacted in the West. Unless God chastises our churches and our nation and people repent revival is not going to happen in America on any national scale. You can take that to the bank.<\/p>\n

Why do the churches make spiritual elders out of kids whose only achievement is to graduate from Bible college? What leadership abilities and moral lifestyle does that display? They then get to be leader of a congregation, spend a few years and job shop for more money or prestige somewhere else. Or many are so immature that they get caught up into sin. So then the local churches get to search again for another outsider that will very likely be their clone. Is that the instruction we received from Paul about how to select elders in our churches? Hello?<\/p>\n

Then we wonder why we find that we have used car salesmen instead of leaders in our pulpits. Yeah, and don’t expect these people to put their neck on the line for the flock when they are outsiders and have never bonded with them, and don’t expect unproven kids to lead spiritually when they are still soiling their own diapers. Then we wonder why young pastors are emerging into heretical movements. They should not have been put in the positions of an elder in the first place!\u00a0 Contrary to the thinking of Western Churchianity a degree from ORU or SW Bible College by itself does not make people qualified to be an elder of a local body. Find someone who meets the qualifications of an elder in your church and then send him to Bible college for additional formal training, not vice versa.<\/p>\n

Dave Daubenmire — Sheep Without Shepherds<\/a><\/p>\n

After the event the reaction was the same as everywhere we go.<\/p>\n

\u201cMy goodness,\u201d the attendees say. \u201cWhere are our pastors? Why aren\u2019t they telling us this stuff? We have to do something. There are more Christians than there are any other faith.\u201d<\/p>\n

And what is it we are telling them when we hold a seminar?<\/p>\n

\u2022 Abortion is Murder.
\n\u2022 Homosexuality and divorce are sin.
\n\u2022 Our schools have become Secular-Humanist factories.
\n\u2022 Our rights are God-given, not government-granted.
\n\u2022 God is King\u2026..your government is not.
\n\u2022 Judgment begins in the house of God.
\n\u2022 It is our job to fight for Truth.
\n\u2022 American Christianity has lost His Salty Savor.<\/p>\n

The pastors never come. The sheep innately know something is terribly wrong but can\u2019t put a finger on the problem. We expose the Devil\u2019s game-plan and their eyes become opened, but they have no where to turn. \u201cI wish my pastor was here.\u201d<\/p>\n

But the shepherds won\u2019t come. They are afraid of what they might hear. Christianity is an army without generals.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I have often heard pastors tell the sheep in the pews that they need to get busy because God works through them as well. That is true, but sheep do not lead they follow. Perhaps your people are not doing anything but warming the pews because you have not provided them a spiritual battle plan. […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[46,88,18,98,29,45],"tags":[135,352,56,57,58,51],"class_list":["post-957","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aberrantheretical-teaching","category-discernment","category-emergingemergent-church","category-post-modern","category-psychology-in-the-church","category-the-church","tag-dave-daubenmire","tag-discernment","tag-emergent","tag-heresy","tag-movements","tag-postmodern"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pawsE-fr","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/957","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=957"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/957\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6868,"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/957\/revisions\/6868"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=957"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=957"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=957"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}