{"id":993,"date":"2008-06-16T14:49:59","date_gmt":"2008-06-16T19:49:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/2008\/06\/16\/newswithviewcom-and-their-conspiracy-loons.html"},"modified":"2026-02-12T03:59:58","modified_gmt":"2026-02-12T09:59:58","slug":"newswithviewcom-and-their-conspiracy-loons","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thepropheticyears.com\/wordpress\/newswithviewcom-and-their-conspiracy-loons.html","title":{"rendered":"Newswithview.com and their conspiracy loons."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of the reasons why I no longer link to Newswithviews.com is the many hateful conspiracy loons who write articles on that forum. There are some good posts on that website so I check it but I wish writers with Christian discernment would post elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p>I cannot believe that intelligent people would actually believe that our own government was behind 9\/11. These people see all government linking to a great unprovable international conspiracy to bring in some imaginary new world order that is already set in stone in back rooms of think tanks. They have been on this nonsense for many decades but they continually find a new audience. I guess the leaders make a living off of it or they like to develop a following. However the truth of the matter is that nothing like this can happen until God allows it and when He allows it their will not be one thing they can do to stop it.<\/p>\n<p>If things in the world really were as sinister as these people like to claim why are they allowed to live to spout their secret inside knowledge?  These people even go beyond the fringe Left that likes to see fascism behind every bush and thus see 9\/11 as a fascist power grab by the Right but if the Far Left actually wanted to see fascism all they would really have to do is look in a mirror and project their own thoughts out a few years.<\/p>\n<p>But no, these don&#8217;t claim to be on the Left, They claim to be civil Libertarians who want to go back to what they think is the real intent of the founding fathers and the American Constitution. As if they could really know how our founding fathers would interpret their own words when addressing unique 21st century problems. I think our founding fathers would even be more pro active and more military minded than anyone like George Bush. Our founding fathers launched what they though were just wars for reasons that pale compared to the post 9\/11 nuclear threat.<\/p>\n<p>These people are always against government they are really anarchists. They live in some backwoods fantasy world. They do not have a clue that if we or the world went to the form of government that they suggest that it would cause Anarchy everywhere. It would bankrupt the nation, and put us in a great depression for fifty years. Sure maybe we should have never gone down this road but get in reality we did! Now we need to complete the journey because there is no going back. Those bridges have long been cut. Going back would mean many different things to many different people and everyone would be running amok doing what they think is right in their own eyes while the nation burns.<\/p>\n<p>Some of these Libertarians are very legalistic in their biblical interpretations. They have no understanding of the Spirit of passages. they want the whole world to live under their own narrow interpretation of Old Testament Biblical laws that never could be even marginally followed except through Christian conversion.<\/p>\n<p>They rail against all popular elected government and the will of the people but what they propose is a very limited government that would be narrowly defined by themselves. They think they can start over without paying our debts and honoring our treaties. Who would trust that America? They will say they do not advocate that but they certainly do. There limited government and very limited taxation could never pay what we owe to our own people or what we owe to other nations. I guess they would just tell everyone on Social Security and Medicare to get back to work because they can&#8217;t pay the entitlements you worked for all your life. Get a grip!<\/p>\n<p>Last I read the Bill of rights gives us freedom of speech in this nation. Yet Devvy Kidd wants Michael Reagan to do j<strong>ail time<\/strong> for his expression of outrage against people like her who make hate speech statements against government. Move to Burma if you want that!<\/p>\n<p>She would be the first one to condemn hate speech legislation if it were passed but she herself says that Michael Reagan should be arrested for his rail against the hate speech she spouts.<\/p>\n<p>I guess she thinks the American constitution only applies to the great enlightened conspiracy elite like herself.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20250319084933\/https:\/\/www.newswithviews.com\/Devvy\/kidd369.htm\">Devvy Kidd &#8212; Indict Michael Reagan, Applaud Senator Karen Johnson<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>INDICT MICHAEL REAGAN, APPLAUD SENATOR KAREN JOHNSON<\/p>\n<p>By: Devvy<br \/>\nJune 16, 2008<\/p>\n<p>\u00a9 2008 &#8211; NewsWithViews.com<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly &#8211; it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.\u201d Joseph Goebbels, Hitler\u2019s Minister of Propaganda<\/p>\n<p>It takes a lot to shock me anymore, but indeed, shock is what registered when I listened to talk show host, Michael Reagan, blast these words during the second hour of his show, June 10, 2008:<\/p>\n<p>Partial transcript of Reagan\u2019s statements which can be heard here (3:12 minutes):<\/p>\n<p>\u201cExcuse me folks, I&#8217;m going to say this. We ought to find the people who are doing this, take them out and shoot them. Really. You take them out, they are traitors to this country, and shoot them. You have a problem with that? Deal with it. You shoot them. You call them traitors, that&#8217;s what they are, and you shoot them dead. I\u2019ll pay for the bullets. \u201dReagan adds, \u201cHow about you take Mark Dice out and put him in the middle of a firing range. Tie him to a post, don&#8217;t blindfold him, let it rip and have some fun with Mark Dice.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>At the end when Reagan says &#8220;&#8230;these people are just outrageous,&#8221; I assume it&#8217;s Reagan&#8217;s engineer says, &#8220;Now you know where the Ron Paul supporters went.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Who is Mark Dice? I had never heard of him until this happened. It appears he&#8217;s a 911 activist who has joined with others in a project to present information about 911 to the troops in Iraq. These packages going to active duty soldiers in a war zone was covered on FOX in a 5:12 minute interview with Dice and Megyn Kelly. You can watch this short video here. This is very reminiscent of what happened a long time ago which resulted in what became known as the &#8216;Great Sedition Trial of 1944,&#8217; where the defendants were charged with trying to incite mutiny within the troops during WWII; they were not convicted. Dice has filed a report with the FBI.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>If questioning our government, even during a war based on nothing but lies, is considered an act of treason and we should all be hunted down and shot, then millions of Americans, me included, are guilty. We demand the truth and we will continue to fight for the truth. Senator Karen Johnson deserves our thanks and respect. Michael Reagan deserves our contempt and jail time.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the reasons why I no longer link to Newswithviews.com is the many hateful conspiracy loons who write articles on that forum. There are some good posts on that website so I check it but I wish writers with Christian discernment would post elsewhere. 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