Parallels between The Shack God and A.A.’s higher power.

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“The Shack”, by William P. Young is still a hugely popular and very deceptive book that is likely to become a movie. Those that believe there is a Christian message or theme in this book are totally deceived and must not believe biblical doctrine themselves at all. The book presents another God, another Christ, and another path to salvation. “The Shack” really promotes “New Age” all paths Universalism much like A.A. which itself was founded by a man who got messages from the occult. The book is blasphemous toward God presuming to speak for God while actually promoting a “Queen of Heaven” type God that does not exist.

This pluralistic theme where many paths lead to the same God is now being promoted everywhere thanks to A.A., other 12 step programs, and the postmodern redefining of Christianity by high profile religious and secular media figures. Nevertheless, no true Christian should be sucked into such an unbiblical “New Age” postmodern concept. There is only one way to the Father (not the mother) according to the teaching of the only God/Man that ever walked the earth. That way is only through Jesus Christ as He is defined in the Bible and not as Jesus is redefined in the light of “New Age” demonic darkness.

Any Christian leader promoting “The Shack” should be immediately removed from their position because they are promoting doctrines of demons and the lie of the adversary that leads people to Hell.

Christian Worldview Network - Brannon Howse - The Shack is A.A.’s higher power.

According to the author, the god of The Shack dwells in everybody, and apparently does not condemn any to eternal punishment—or, as The Shack would address this, “She does not punish anyone.” The novel’s “christ” is the “best way” to salvation, but apparently not the only way.

What about Alcoholics Anonymous? The A.A. Big Book states, “We found that God does not make too hard terms with those who seek Him. To us, the Realm of Spirit is broad, roomy, all inclusive; never exclusive or forbidding to those who earnestly seek. It is open, we believe, to all men. When, therefore, we speak to you of God, we mean your own conception of God.”[19] According to the A.A. Big Book, God is “deep down within us.”

Thus are the seeds of the New Age planted in the soil of both The Shack and Alcoholics Anonymous. The tentacles of various heresies are reaching out and linking. The false “christ” of The Shack seems poised to be welcomed into, or serve as a catalyst for, emergent/contemplative/12 Step Spirituality.

Many Christians have superimposed their beliefs upon The Shack, supposing it a novel written by a Biblical Christian. As James De Young and others have pointed out, this is not necessarily the case. Over the decades, many Christians have also jackhammered their God into AA’s anti-Biblical system

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When will we believe acts of God are acts of God?

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Is America now under judgment? When are acts of God acts of God? Has America done anything worthy of judgment? You be the judge.

  • So far this year we are involved in two foreign wars with another war being a distinct possibility.
  • We have had unprecedented numbers of tornadoes.
  • The Mid-West floods have been catastrophic.
  • More of California has burned this year then in any year in history and the fires are still burning with a fire season that still has a long way to go

On the Economic Front.

  • Falling Real estate values have caused the greatest financial crises since the great depression.
  • Tens of millions are losing equity in there homes, millions are losing their homes.
  • The stock market is down 20 percent and pension funds and insurance will also lose at least that much value.
  • Banks, brokerage firms and corporations are failing and need to be bailed out by the government.
  • The U.S. dollar is the weakest it has been in modern times.
  • Gasoline prices are four times what they were a few years ago.
  • Heating bills will be much higher this winter.
  • All electric bills are about to shoot up about twenty percent in one year.
  • Food prices are up 10 to 20 percent this year.
  • Inflation across the board is the worst in years and most of the costs have not even been passed through yet.
  • Services in the U.S. are becoming unreliable.
  • Unemployment is on the rise and it is going to get much higher.
  • Due to falling revenues state and local governments are going to run into major deficit problems

Crime and amorality

  • Gangs have taken over much of our inner cities.
  • Drug trafficking is epidemic.
  • Illegal drugs are used by a very large percentage of our population.
  • 2.2 million people are in prison in this nation. This is the highest incarceration rate in the world.
  • There are 10 to 20 million people in this country illegally.
  • One in four adults in the U.S. has a VD. Homosexual males have a ten year shorter life span, yet, the pushing of homosexuality and sexual promiscuity is all over the media and sexual perversion is taught in our schools as normal healthy lifestyles and this is forced on suggestible children.
  • Homosexual marriage is now legal in two states.
  • There have been 50 million abortions in the U.S. and taxpayers in one way or another are paying much of the cost. Much of the black population in the U.S. is being aborted but most black leaders keep promoting it.
  • Scams and rip-off schemes are epidemic especially on the Internet.

Politics.

  • Congress has a nine percent approval rating.
  • Judges are legislating law from the bench contrary to the Constitution.
  • Special interest groups control almost all politicians and it is now almost impossible to get incumbents out of office.
  • Thanks to the voters we have two choices for the President that want more globalism and more socialism. Both will bring in a liberal supreme court. Both will pass hate speech laws that will negatively impact Christians.

Religion.

  • A generation of seeker friendly services has watered down much of what is left of Evangelical Christianity.
  • The Emergent movement is redefining biblical truths and downplaying biblical doctrine.
  • Most claiming to be Christians are biblically illiterate not having read through the Bible even once in their lives, far less have understanding of the passages in context.
  • People flaunting their sins are put in church leadership roles.
  • Psychology theories originated from the occult have corrupted much Christian counseling and other programs.
  • New Age pagan thought is now all over the media and is being accepted by many claiming to be Christians.
  • Much of the youth is leaving Christianity for postmodern relativism

If God were to continue judging this nation what might our immediate future hold?

  • The economy would continue to decline.
  • Hyperinflation is a very real possibility.
  • Unemployment may become a very serious issue.
  • There could be much greater weather related storms, droughts and crop failures.
  • Major earthquakes would become likely.
  • Major volcanic activity is certainly possible.
  • Leadership in government could continue to get worse (even lower then scraping the bottom).
  • Terrorist attacks would become likely.
  • Hate speech laws will be passed and constitutional freedoms will be redefined by the courts. Government tyranny will become a major issue.
  • A nuclear electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack may happen. It would leave the nation helpless without electric for months or years. (This would be the ultimate judgment it would most likely bring the complete collapse of our society).
  • The complete collapse of our economic system is possible.
  • Collapse of our social system and declining into anarchy is possible.
  • The break up of the Union is possible.

The Bible says the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Don’t you think it would be wise for people in this nation to fear the Lord instead of Him having to send correction because we will not do what is right?

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The all-gods sect called Alcoholics Anonymous or A.A.

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This is a clever article that points out the problems with Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) and most other 12 step programs.

Missionaries Into Darkest Alcoholics Anonymous - CWN

Mama and Papa,

We are in America at last. The Lord has sent us into the strangest belief system. The men and women here seem impervious to the Gospel, but the Lord has given us great love for them.

This religion teaches that virtually anything can be defined as a god. During their meetings these people gather and pray in unity, but the “god” each individual prays to can be as varied and unique as particles of sand in our African desert. It is unsettling watching them join in the Lord’s Prayer, because most do not know Jesus, and therefore cannot know the Father.

This religion was founded here in America in the 1930s. It is a very American system of belief and worship. Very democratic, one might say. In this belief system, it is not important what one worships, only that one must worship something. In fact, initiates who come seeking help, but who have trouble inventing or envisioning a god, are often told they can worship a “doorknob,” or even the group itself to begin their spiritual journey.

Clearly the enemy uses this all-gods movement to dull Christians down, and to point the unsaved anywhere but Christ. This strategy has been marvelously effective.

Please pray that our Lord raise up other missionaries to send to these people in Alcoholics Anonymous. There are so many lost people here. This hurts to say, but many of the Christians, who love this all-gods sect, need missionaries almost as badly as the unsaved.

Pray the Lord of the Harvest sends laborers,

His missionaries In Deepest, Darkest A.A

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Sheep will have no direction without Shepherds

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I have often heard pastors tell the sheep in the pews that they need to get busy because God works through them as well. That is true, but sheep do not lead they follow. Perhaps your people are not doing anything but warming the pews because you have not provided them a spiritual battle plan. How many are even giving their onward Christian soldiers a weekly briefing on issues of our day like those found in the quote of Dave Daubenmire below?

I think we have all heard enough of your canned applications for living a Christian life. Now we need leaders who know how to take the high ground and be steadfast against the amorality and heresies of our day that are perverting our nation and our churches.

You have no idea how many Christians tell me that they are totally fed up with churches and do not wish to attend them. Frankly, I find that I can not even defend the Western concept of church. How did the Church of God become a Sunday ritual or a weekly entertainment service?

The Church is the Body of Christ on earth. We are God’s representatives and not a service or a building!  I think all Western church leaders should be required to spend one month in a third world Christian church, preferably one under persecution, and then we might see biblical Christianity being taught and enacted in the West. Unless God chastises our churches and our nation and people repent revival is not going to happen in America on any national scale. You can take that to the bank.

Why do the churches make spiritual elders out of kids whose only achievement is to graduate from Bible college? What leadership abilities and moral lifestyle does that display? They then get to be leader of a congregation, spend a few years and job shop for more money or prestige somewhere else. Or many are so immature that they get caught up into sin. So then the local churches get to search again for another outsider that will very likely be their clone. Is that the instruction we received from Paul about how to select elders in our churches? Hello?

Then we wonder why we find that we have used car salesmen instead of leaders in our pulpits. Yeah, and don’t expect these people to put their neck on the line for the flock when they are outsiders and have never bonded with them, and don’t expect unproven kids to lead spiritually when they are still soiling their own diapers. Then we wonder why young pastors are emerging into heretical movements. They should not have been put in the positions of an elder in the first place!  Contrary to the thinking of Western Churchianity a degree from ORU or SW Bible College by itself does not make people qualified to be an elder of a local body. Find someone who meets the qualifications of an elder in your church and then send him to Bible college for additional formal training, not vice versa.

Dave Daubenmire — Sheep Without Shepherds

After the event the reaction was the same as everywhere we go.

“My goodness,” the attendees say. “Where are our pastors? Why aren’t they telling us this stuff? We have to do something. There are more Christians than there are any other faith.”

And what is it we are telling them when we hold a seminar?

• Abortion is Murder.
• Homosexuality and divorce are sin.
• Our schools have become Secular-Humanist factories.
• Our rights are God-given, not government-granted.
• God is King…..your government is not.
• Judgment begins in the house of God.
• It is our job to fight for Truth.
• American Christianity has lost His Salty Savor.

The pastors never come. The sheep innately know something is terribly wrong but can’t put a finger on the problem. We expose the Devil’s game-plan and their eyes become opened, but they have no where to turn. “I wish my pastor was here.”

But the shepherds won’t come. They are afraid of what they might hear. Christianity is an army without generals.

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AA and 12 steps were not founded by Christians

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Churches today are filled with 12 step programs based on a model that has no foundation in Christianity. I also wrote my own article that deals with the issue.

It is not just fear that keeps us bound to this all-gods religion. The 12 Step experience becomes an idol—long-term involvement almost always results in a transference of faith. Bluntly stated, when it comes to sobriety, many Christians end up with more faith in the power of the 12 Step program than in Jesus Christ.

This idol worship is by no means limited to those in AA, but applies to many in “Christian 12 Step” groups.

This transference of faith is subtle, gradual, and frequently inevitable. The result is that sobriety without the 12 Step program will not even be considered. Biblical wisdom, given by concerned and caring believers, is rejected.

For many years Christians have justified their involvement by pointing to numerous books that claim AA and the 12 Steps are Christian in origin. If this is true, then obviously AA’s cofounders had to have been Christians. Indeed, this belief is also a primary rationalization for remaining in the AA religion.

Did AA cofounders Bill Wilson and Dr. Bob Smith follow Christ?

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12 steps toward pluralism and universalism defiles Christians

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This is a very well written article on why pastors should not be promoting 12 step programs like AA. I wrote my own article on this subject a while back that says much the same things. You will find it in the New Evangelicals and post-modern psychobabble section of a much larger article I wrote on Dominion theology and where it will lead the church. There are a couple of good reference links on my piece. One is on the founders of AA, Bill Wilson, who was a real nut case. Also read the below article it gives additional insights.

A perfect example of a graduate of a 12 step program is President George Bush. He solved his alcoholism but now embraces Universalism where many religious that deny Christ lead to God.

Alcoholics Anonymous: Pluralistically Praying unto the Higher Power - CWN

T.A. McMahon sums it up very well: “AA’s official biography indicates Bill Wilson received the details of the 12 Steps through spirit dictation. Does anyone see a simple, idolatrous problem here? But what about evangelicals just using the methodology the familiar spirit gave to Bill Wilson? Simple again: God condemns the source, and the approach is contrary to the way He wants to transform our lives. Furthermore, why turn to such a spiritually toxic system? Where are the evangelical pastors’ heads in this?”[10]

Pluralism is here. Worshiping with non-believers is here. It has gone far beyond the National Day of Prayer. It is a daily occurrence at 12 Step meetings throughout the entire country.

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Dobson and Schuller’s Psychological Christianity

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Gee, someone actually agrees with what I say about this sacred cow of Christianity. Most science is corrupted by deceptive philosophies of the world in one way or another and does not mix well with Christianity. Theories of Psychotherapy do not mix at all

“Dobson’s Law” has always agreed with Robert Schuller - CWN

In response to recent articles concerning Shirley Dobson’s commendation of the ministry of Robert Schuller, I must confess there is no surprise here. Nothing has contributed more to the current preoccupation with self than the propagation of the psychological gospel. And perhaps no man has popularized this man-centered approach to Christianity more than radio psychologist, James Dobson. Setting aside any question of his sincerity (man cannot judge the heart), it must be recognized, however, that his media ministry has been more responsible for spreading the false gospel of self-esteem, self-love, self-respect, and self-acceptance than many others. For over three decades

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Shirley Dobson appears on Hour of Power and says Robert Schuller is doing good work

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Much of the church is missing Dr. Dobson’s mixed message because he tells them what they want to hear on issues of the family and morality but Dr. Dobson seems to be confused on many theological issues - from the evil of psychology in the Church, to soft dominionism to his confusion on Robert Schuller’s universalism.

I wrote an article that includes information on Dr. Dobson if anyone cares to read it. The major segment on Dobson is about half way down the article in the psychobabble section, also check the excellent link within for much more information.

Do The Dobsons and Focus on the Family Agree with the Emergent Church? - CWN

If Dr. Dobson and Focus on the Family are NOT in agreement with the Emergent Church then Dr. Dobson should release a letter stating that he does not agree with Emergent church leaders such as Dr. Robert Schuller and apologize for his wife’s appearance with Dr. Schuller on The Hour of Power and his VP’s appearance at Schuller’s conference.

Dr. Dobson should commit to hosting a series of programs on this fast growing cancer inside the church. Dr. Dobson could invite former Emergent Church pioneer, Jason Carlson on his program to expose the heresy of this Trojan horse in our camp.

I really wish that Dr. Dobson and Mrs. Dobson would join me in my opposition of the Emergent Church theology and not be praising one of its biggest leaders and promoters. At the conclusion of her interview with Dr. Robert Schuller, Mrs. Dobson says, “Thank you, thank you, thank you Dr. Schuller. God bless you and the good work you are doing here”

What? “God bless the good work you are doing here”? What good work is that, leading millions of people to hell with a false gospel? Really, I would like to know what good work she is talking about. Dr. Schuller promotes Universalism and I know the Dobsons do not agree with Universalism.

Why on earth would Mrs. Dobson appear on The Hour of Power and then ask God to bless “the good work” Schuller is doing? FOTF and the Dobson’s have nothing to gain by cooperating with Schuller, but they do have their credibility to lose with discerning, conservative, Bible-Believing Christians.

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Psychology emerging in Christianity

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Many Christian leaders understand that moral relativism is a plague on society but for some reason they do not understand that this thinking originated from theories of psychology.

It also is no accident that psychology is now a major part of the education offered in many Bible colleges and seminaries. Is it any wonder then that leaders with majors and minors in psychology are now emerging out of these schools and are creating the Emergent Church movement.

They teach people to question and redefine what were once Christian absolutes. So now we have the emerging blind leading the blind that have already been brainwashed to accept moral relativism by their secular educators. Unless the church rejects these theories of psychology and the philosophies of the pagan world it will continue to slide into apostasy.

Many Christian leaders today use theories of psychology in their sermons, seminars and counseling sessions as if it were truth. No it is not! These so called truths originated from satanic men and are doctrines of demons.

For a good perspective on this read this excellent article.

American Thinker: Psychology: The Hard Truth about a Soft Science

Yet the problem with psychology is not just that those within the field may be peddling a relativistic creed, but that it has provided a specious scientific basis for relativism’s wider embrace. We now live in the age of “If it feels good, do it,” a maxim that is eminently logical if morals are really values and values are determined by man. Because of this, it is also the age of no accountability; after all, if right and wrong are merely opinion and thus don’t truly exist, how can anything I’ve done be wrong? Haven’t you heard, you provincial thinker, that you aren’t supposed to impose your values on me? Don’t you know I have my own “truth”? And, if nothing can be truly wrong, there is nothing to be accountable for.

For this reason, I might call psychology the science of why we not accountable. Think about it: Everything formerly labeled a sin is now diagnosed as a disease or condition of the brain. If you drink too much, it is simply because of your genetics or chemistry; if you’re an ill-behaved child, it may be ADHD; if you murdered your husband, you perhaps were in the grip of PMS; and the list goes on.

And even if, by chance, the accident that is you wound up with a well-functioning organic CPU, you’re still at the mercy of your environment (although the nurture argument seems to have lost weight in recent times). Sure, you robbed the convenience store, but you were simply programmed incorrectly by mommy, or perhaps daddy wasn’t there to provide the data that only XY org-robs can. It’s a variation on the “The Devil made me do it argument,

I also might say that mental health professionals have become the new priesthood. After all, whereas years ago people might have gone to a man of the cloth for guidance, now they are likely to lie on a therapist’s couch. The prescriptions they get are far different, too. A priest, minister or rabbi would usually render advice steeped in tradition and God-centered, but the psychologist is most likely to offer relativistic counsel, where the focus is on feelings and is thus self-centered.

And what happens when the matter of religion is raised? If you’re like many, including someone I know of, you may be told you’re taking your faith too seriously, that such devotion is akin to a mental illness. This isn’t surprising, I suppose. What future could a person have with an “illusion,” even the very attractive one that Freud seemed to believe was the opiate of the masses? Yet, with over 20 million Americans, 40 percent of college students and 1 out of 9 schoolchildren on psychiatrist-prescribed psychoactive drugs, one is left to wonder what realm is truly most deserving of that title.

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Accommodation or Confrontation

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Accommodation or Confrontation - CWN: ” recently watched a video presentation of Dr. Francis Schaeffer’s last public meeting before he died in 1984. I was stunned, again, by the precision of his insights into his era, and ours. Dr. Schaeffer’s last two books, The Great Evangelical Disaster and A Christian Manifesto, were nothing short of prophetic. As he approached his death, after fifty years of his ministry, he observed that evangelicalism over that time could be summarized primarily by one term: Accommodation. There is a syncretism, a relativism within the Western church that accepts and capitulates to the trends of the secular society around it. Dr. Schaeffer had pointed out in his previous book, The God Who Is There, that the true, confessing Church is the last holdout against despair in any given culture. The gospel has a restraining influence on a culture, like a dam holding back the flood of secularism. When worldliness and accommodation have infiltrated the church, a culture has gone as low as it can go morally. Dr. Schaeffer summarized the evangelical situation in 1984 by saying, “The grossest form of worldliness is conforming to the form of worldliness that exists in it’s own generation. If that is true, then we must say that Evangelicalism is as worldly as it can possibly be!””

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Re-Think Methodology or Repent

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Re-Think or Repent - CWN: “this was, and is more than a “mistake” that can be corrected by the publishing of another book, or as Greg Hawkins suggests: “take out a clean sheet of paper and …rethink all of our old assumptions (and)…replace them with new insights!” Bill Hybels is one of three men who must assume some degree of moral, if not scriptural responsibility for the anemic condition of the American church today. The models of church ministry fostered by Bill Hybels, Rick Warren and John Maxwell have, in my opinion, done more harm to the true effectiveness of the church than we will be able to overcome in our lifetime, apart from a genuine revival.”

The problem is even though Hybel’s now admits that they have been wrong for twenty years. They have no intentions of going back to church the way it was before they influenced the church to depart to a worldly methodology. If you check what they are doing at Hybel’s and Warren’s churches they are going head first into heretical Emergent Church doctrines and inclusive universalism with all Religion. Why would any church retain a pastor who has lead them down the wrong path for two decades as if he suddenly now learned how to lead people to Christ and pastor the flock?

Any corporation leader who admitted that his leadership was a disaster for two decades would be fired. But not these guys! So who are the members worshiping in these churches, their pastor or Jesus? Its like those Christian’s who vote for Ted Kennedy. They know he is a immoral scoundrel but they vote for him anyway because he gives them worldly benifiets that a freshman senator could not. The church has become so much like the world these days that even the world cannot tell the difference.

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The Sufficiency of the Word for Discipleship Counseling

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The Sufficiency of the Word for Discipleship Counseling - CWN: “Sadly, the church in the United States, as a whole, does not have this commitment. In his book, The Disciple Making Pastor, Bill Hull exposes the church’s departure from the sufficiency of the written Word of God and its resulting embrace of the principles of psychology.”

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Paul Proctor — The Wasteland of Willow Creek

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Paul Proctor — The Wasteland of Willow Creek: “I guess by doing their own surveys and presenting the ‘earth-shaking’ results as a revelation at their Leadership Summit and in a brand new book, Hybels can save face and save customers by admitting comically that he goofed to his chuckling audience in front of the cameras without having to admit that those who rebuked him with the Word of God year after year were right - and that many others who desperately needed the Word of God, yet were denied, have suffered immeasurably for the neglect.”

We have been telling the seeker gurus that the seeker sensitive movement was a mistake for many years now but nobody wanted to listen. Now that Bill Hybels himself admits it was a mistake he will be seen as the enlightened one that figured it out. Meanwhile, he is planing a new experiment for the creekers that is a worse mistake. He will be shifting his churches toward the thinking in the emerging or emergent church movement.

These people do not want to teach the simple gospel they want a new gimmick or methodology to improve upon it. They want to try to hoodwink people into Christianity by psychologies of men and human rationalization rather than through the work Jesus did at Calvary.

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An Open Letter to Focus on the Family’s H.B. London

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An Open Letter to Focus on the Family’s H.B. London - CWN: “An Open Letter to Focus on the Family’s H.B. London Dear Mr. London, I am aware of the faxed statement you are sending out to concerned listeners of Focus on the Family regarding your participation in Robert Schuller’s ReThink Conference. Completely missing from your statement was any biblical foundation whatsoever for what you are doing. Robert Schuller has actively been hawking a book from his ministry by Jerry Jampolsky that is forwarded by one of the world’s leading New Age leaders and teachers, Neale Donald Walsch! (See link.) Jampolsky, a huge promoter of the occult A Course in Miracles, has been featured several times on the Hour of Power. A Course in Miracles is a demonic channeling by the authors that is a complete warping of the Scriptures. It has led countless followers straight into the occult.”

Yoking yourself with unbelievers like Larry King and Rupert Murdoch who is one of the world’s biggest porn producers is gross disobedience to God’s word. Believing that these worldlings have anything to teach those who are redeemed by Christ is to ignore what God has already told us in the Bible. Mr. London, you have no business going to this conference as a speaker if you truly belong to the Lord Jesus Christ. You cannot follow Christ and disobey His clear commands. It’s really that simple.

No Christian should be on Robert Schullar’s platform unless to rebuke him publicly.

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Barack Obama believes in Dominion Theology and speaks at Word of Faith Churches

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CNN.com - CNN Political Ticker Obama: GOP doesn’t own faith and values «
After speaking to an evangelical church on Sunday in this traditionally conservative South Carolina city, Sen. Barack Obama said that Republicans no longer have a firm grip on religion in political discourse. “I think its important particularly for those of us in the Democratic Party to not cede values and faith to any one party,” Obama told reporters outside the Redemption World Outreach Center where he attended services.

” I just want all of you to pray that I can be an instrument of God in the same way that Pastor Ron and all of you are instruments of God.’ He finished his brief remarks by saying, ‘We’re going to keep on praising together. I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.‘”

The above link was taken down hours after it was posted by Matt Drudge but what Obama said can also be viewed at
http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2007/10/07/obamamessiah-create-a-kingdom-on-earth/

Barack Obama claims that Republicans no longer have a firm grip on religion in political discourse, that is true. Most Evangelicals would say they are Christian and not religious. Religious people tend to try to get to heaven based on there own good works which is quite impossible. Christians on the other hand, get to heaven based on what God already did in His Son.

It is very telling that Barack Obama would attend a heretical “Word Church” with a name it and claim it prosperity gospel. Two people he phrases in his speech have serious problems of their own. Bishop Jakes is a heretical oneness pentecostal that denies the Trinity or at least he will not affirm it. Rick Warren is so interwoven with world psychology and power brokers that it get rather hard to sort out what gospel he is now preaching. The gospel he preaches in his church and the purpose driven seeker friendly movement that he started, is really a watered down gospel that preaches a gospel of self fulfillment for want-to-be successful baby bloomers.

Obama said that he is confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth. That view is heretical dominion theology. The Bible does not teach that the Church is going to bring a Kingdom on earth before the return of the King. Follow my links for more information on these subjects. One thing Word People, Warren and Obama all seem to have in common is the idea that religion is going to bring a paradise to this earth. This view all ties in with the Harlot of Revelation that rides the Beast Kingdom of the Antichrist into power.

The only faith these people have in God is what God is allowed to do through the works of mankind. Thus, they make God dependent on the sinful choices of sinful men. The reason they do this is that although they claim a relationship with God they deny His power. Obama does not understand or believe the scriptures or he would not be taking positions of being pro choice, pro homosexual, pro socialist and anti fundamental Christians.

All this says wonders about the apostasy and the lack of discernment of the mega church pastors like Warren and Carpenter when they allow someone with Obama’s anti Christian values to speak from their pulpit to deceive their sheep. The motivation they have for doing so is certainly not coming from God.

The great divide between true Christians and pseudo Christians is that true Christians trust in God while pseudo Christians trust in the works of man. One is a belief of faith the others is a religion of works. Obama clearly thinks he knows better than God or does not believe the Bible is the word of God. In either case he in not to be instructing the Church. Obama is clearly a globalist secular humanist who puts on the airs of Christianity for his own convenience.

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Christians are all mixed up…in mysticism

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Christians are mixed up…in mysticism - Guest - Sep 15, 07: “More and more of those who profess Christ are ‘experiencing God’ in ways that lands them smack dab in the middle of the New Age movement. It’s not like they haven’t been warned about experimenting with mysticism. They’ve been warned plenty, yet they totally disregard wise counsel. So if you’re among the sheep who have gone astray, consider the Bible’s wise counsel: ‘It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him’(Deut 13:4). I must admit I’m mystified (pun intended) as to why so many Christians are choosing to leave the narrow road Jesus spoke of and follow Oprah down the broad road that leads to destruction. What’s up with that? The Bible says, “As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord,” not Oprah!”

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Compromise isn’t just found in the Emergent Movement

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Compromise isn’t just found in the Emergent Movement - CWN: “As W. Graham Scroggie said, “Light and darkness, right and wrong, good and evil, truth and error are incompatibles . . . when they compromise it is the light, the right, the good, and the truth that are damaged.”

The biggest danger to the evangelical Church is not false religion or atheism, but compromise; it has always been a tool of the enemy. When compromise occurs, we can have church growth but no depth; numbers, but no character; enormous buildings, but small hearts. We “play” Christian, but have the tendency to compromise everything that Christ stood for. We have riches, wealth, and prosperity, but neglect the weightier matters—love, mercy, and forgiveness. When compromise reigns, we can easily become insensitive, indifferent, ineffective, unforgiving, unloving, unmoved, and self-righteous. “Where does Christianity destroy itself in a given generation? It destroys itself by not living in the light, by professing a truth it does not obey” (Tozer). (See Revelation 2:1-29 & 3:1-22.)”

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Willow Creek’s Leadership Summit

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Willow Creek’s Leadership Summit - CWN Please do not misunderstand. I gleaned some helpful stuff from the conference. But, as a leader who submits to the authority of God revealed objectively in the Scripture, I have always been troubled by the weak ecclesiology and overall weak theology coming from this organization. The market-driven, consumer-centered approach to the Church is simply contrary to the teaching of Scripture about God (His character); Humanity (Our fallen condition); the Church (centered on the Lord Jesus) and Salvation (a call to deny self and receive God’s grace). It is a good goal to lead believers to become self-feeding, mature followers of Jesus. But this is accomplished by learning under the teachers Christ gifted to the Church (Ephesians 4:11-16). The Church gathered is for the glory of Christ through the building up of His body. To know how to lead the Church, let’s go to the Scriptures before looking to the fitness center.

The problem with Willow Creek is that they are more interested in church growth than Church growth.

They reach seekers who sometimes become growing Christians but the growing Christians find they have no purpose in life so they seek out “Purpose Driven” teaching to find their purpose but instead find theories of psychology and humanism. They then have more in common with the seekers then with mature Christians in their church and dominate the church membership and boards that continue the Laodicean seeker orientated cycle.

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Chuck Colson says Christians cannot defend their faith

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Colson: Christians must stop ‘privatizing’ faith (OneNewsNow.com): “Colson believes most Christians cannot defend their faith because the church no longer puts a premium on the defense of biblical truth. ‘We privatize the faith,’ he says. ‘We don’t care so much any longer about truth, as we do about therapy.
‘You know, when truth retreats in a church, therapy takes over — [we are more concerned about] how can we make people feel better about themselves. That’s not what the church is for,’ he states. ‘The church is for worshipping God.’”

I agree with the spirit of that statement but lets look at the issue and at what Colson said and did not say a little more closely.

The main reason “Christians” cannot defend their faith is because most of them are not Christians at all. They have no faith other than some faith in fulfilling some man-made religious requirements that they believe will make them righteous with God.

People privatize their faith because they believe that have nothing to offer anyone and they are largely correct.

Many true believers will not talk about their faith because they know they are biblically illiterate and that they cannot intelligently talk about Christian doctrine. The church institutions are not helping the matter when they dumb down doctrine.

A Major problem is that the church does not understand current events or see the end plan because few teach about Bible prophecy today. Teachers blinded to Bible prophecy cannot provide answers for the great evils we see rising in the world today. How can the Church understand the evil of Islam rising against Christianity and Israel if it does not even know or acknowledge that Islam has an evil root, a evil agenda and a evil end? Many Christian leaders claim that Islam worships the same God but their religion opposes every revelation that we were given in God’s word. Teachings from people like Chuck Colson are partly to blame for the worldviews we see in Christianity today on current issues like Islam and in my opinion this blindness has even opposed what God said in this area.

Theories of Psychotherapy are already taught as truth and they are the focus of many church programs and seminars. Theories of psychology are also used in their fund raising techniques but certain people like Colson believe that is quite alright.

The church buildings may have been built as places for worshiping God but God is worshiped in spirit and in truth. The Church is all the members of the body of Christ. The Church is the people and not the buildings or institutions any gather in to worship together. “The Church is for worshiping God” as Colson said, but both the church buildings and the church people are made for other purposes as well.

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Purpose Driven support for Rosemarie’s baby

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Paul Proctor — The ABC’s of Rick Warren: Paul Proctor — The ABC’s of Rick Warren: “Warren said that there is a danger in merging Christianity with psychology,’ adding, ‘Absolutely, there’s a danger’…’Because what it does is feed this self-centeredness … I say, it’s not about you. It’s all about God…’ Now, that’s funny - if merging Christianity with psychology is dangerous because it feeds ’self-centeredness,’ and Rick Warren claims ‘it’s not about you,’ why did he ask the readers of his column in the March 2005 issue of the Ladies Home Journal, about their ‘wobbly self-esteem’ and then carefully teach both Christians and non-Christians alike that ‘the five truths that form the basis of a healthy self-image’ were: ‘Accept yourself, Love yourself, Be true to yourself, Forgive yourself and Believe in yourself?’ Warren said that there is a danger in merging Christianity with psychology,’ adding, ‘Absolutely, there’s a danger’…’Because what it does is feed this self-centeredness … I say, it’s not about you. It’s all about God…’

“Rick’s purpose driven method doesn’t “simplify Christianity” - it distorts it into something it’s not - and in a very duplicitous, disingenuous and unscriptural manner - something ABC’s reporters never addressed - choosing instead to talk about churches getting rid of hymnals - adding guitars and drums to their services and mixing Christianity with psychology - things that few Christians today would even have a problem with.”

Ever wonder why Rick Warren gets all this news coverage? I guess it really helps to be a member of the CFR. I wonder how many of this globalist elite club he has reached for Christ? Paul Proctor in this article hits the main points so I just want to add my belief that this movement is also the mother of Rosemarie’s baby (The emergent church movement). I explain that and talk about some of the issues that Paul Proctor brings up in my dominion theology article. It gets into Psychology, Dobsin, The purpose Driven and the Emergent church movements and much more. It tells how all of this postmodern thought leads to the woman who rides the Beast in Revelation 17

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