David Wilkerson’s Prophecy of Run on American Banks

On September 18, 2007 · 46 Comments

I don’t doubt there will be an economic panic someday soon but I am not going to put too much stock in a prophecy make many years ago by David Wilkerson who also made other prophecies that did not come to pass. I have his book here called, “Racing Towards Judgment” it was written in 1976 and it said many such things. I think that book makes the point I made clear enough.

: “In PREPARATION, October 1993(Rebecca, Box 545, Latham, NY 12110. ‘There has come to hand a prophetic word through David Wilkerson transcribed during a sermon. Most of know of his ministry and of his prophecies that have proven to be true, so we offer this to you, exactly as i came to us, that you may prayerfully consider it. As it says is I Thessalonians 5:19-21 (NAS) ‘Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophetic utterance. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.’”

Note: (the above had a link to a post at fivedoves.com but it died so below is what David Wilkerson reportedly said many years ago.)

“It is just about to happen very soon; and I am speaking prophetically. If I’ve ever heard anything from God in my life I heard it! About the notions! Poland owes $30 billion and they haven’t even paid the interest in two years! Saudi Arabia is behind on their payments on $8 billion – the richest country in the world as far as Arab states and it is not paying its bills! Very soon a European or North African or Eastern nation is going to default on its international loan and when that happens within two weeks Mexico is going to default. Mexico owes $100 billion – 80% of it to American banks – and here is what is going to happen: About two weeks after the first country goes bankrupt we are going to survive that because most of that money is owed to European banks; German, Swiss and French banks. THe 2nd country is going to go down probably Argentina or Brazil and we will kind of live that out and people will settle down and say “Well maybe its not going to hurt.” But two weeks after the first country goes down, Mexico is going to default on $100 billion. And When the banks open the next day at 9:00 am in the morning $15 billion an hour is going to be withdrawn from our American banks. They are going to be running our banks; the Arabs, all the Latin American countries. They are going to be running our banks – and before the day is over the United States is going to have to declare a bank holiday. And we are going into six months of the worst hell America has ever seen! THere is going to be chaos! Not even the National Guard is going to be able to quiet it down. We are going to have to call out the whole United States Army.

“Now I’ve had visions recently for I’ve been in New York City and I was in Macy’s in vision and I say people walking around stunned because they couldn’t get their money out the bank. Now I’m going to give you a word of advice. The first country that goes bankrupt, and I’ve documented this and I’ve got it sealed in an envelope and I’m going to call all my friends and I’m telling you – this is the first time I’ve said it in a public meeting like this – but the first country that bellies up you get every dime you have – church get your money out of the bank because you’ve got two weeks because there’s going to be a bank holiday and you won’t be able to get a dime for six months. Now of course, there is going to be order restored, but the nation will never be like it is again. There is going to be fear like we’ve never known. Judgment is at the door!

“When I was at Macy’s department store in a vision and I watched people walking around stunned. They didn’t even know what to do. They didn’t know what was happening. Then a bunch of young people walked into Macy’s and suddenly went wild and began to steal. Within an hour everybody, I saw their sprit, everybody in that store = and they were robbing and stealing. They raped Macy’s and destroyed all five floors of Macy’s. It was raped and ruined in period of an hour or two. That is just the beginning.”


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 Don Koenig founded www.thepropheticyears.com website in 1999 after almost thirty years of independent study on the Bible and learning from many astute teachers within Christendom. Don created his website to write about Bible prophecy, biblical discernment and his Christian worldviews. Don wrote a free Revelation commentary ebook in 2004 named "The Revelation of Jesus Christ Through The Ages". The World and Church and Bible Prophecy section of this website was started in 2007.


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46 Responses to “David Wilkerson’s Prophecy of Run on American Banks”

  1. FleurNo Gravatar says:

    Dear Don,….are you mocking David wilkerson’s prophecy ?. Do you not believe he is correct in what he say’s,….he is only warning of trouble,…preparing people.You can tell by the fruit of his teaching that it is inspired by the holy spirit.

  2. DonNo Gravatar says:

    This prophecy never came true and dozens of other prophecies that David Wilkerson made never came true. That is a documented fact. I have his book written in 1976 that proves the point.

    If he claims to be a prophet he is a false prophet. If he just claims to have some word of knowledge from God and it does not happen then he is not hearing from God and is really just telling us the presumptions of his own mind like so many others in the Pentecostals movement do. I did fellowship among those kind at one point in my life, I am quite aware of the mind games they play.

    Anyone can look at the downside in morality in this nation and warn that Judgment is coming if we do not do a radical change, but when you get into specifics like he, Pat Robinson and others do, any you name specific judgments but keep crying wolf your not going to be endorsed by me.

  3. LENNo Gravatar says:

    Don,

    Are you then calling Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, and others false prophets? It has been more than 3 THOUSAND years since these prophecies have been written or made and yet they are unfulfilled. Do you believe they will happen? If so, why do you disbelieve a prophecy made in the late 70′s?

  4. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Even David Wilkerson would not compare himself to OT prophets you do him a great disservice. He takes the Pentecostal view that prophets in the Church often just do not get it right. Except for himself of course.

    First of all, the OT prophets proved that they were prophets in their own time and prophecies about future times are usually clear in the context. They are also God’s words, in the Holy Canon, authenticated by Jesus. Wilkerson has said many things that simply did not come to pass. Books claiming visions of imminent judgments on America written by him to warn his own generation, can hardly be fulfilled in a latter generation.

    It was not just “A” prophecy either. David Wilkerson claims to have had visions and he has described a lot of detail that he claims were given to him directly from God. You might read his books and then talk. There is no way that some of his prophecies can be fulfilled as he stated anymore.

    This prophecy on the bank run has not happened as Wilkerson said and even if there is a run on the banks it will not be a fulfillment of his prophecy. Even I can say there will be a run on the banks and I have a good chance of being right. However, along with the prophecy Wilkerson gave details suited for the time he wrote them. I can say America will fall as as a nation and I will be 100 percent correct if we wait long enough. That does not make me a prophet. If I tell people God gave me a vision how the fall would start and what would be the impact on Americans and it does not occur exactly that way, I would be presumptions and speaking visions of my own mind but claiming they came from God.

    There are many out there today doing the same thing. For example, Pat Robinson, Rick Joiner and company. You really have to wonder why their followers keep the prophet facade going. I guess they have itching ears.

  5. JohnNo Gravatar says:

    I would just be careful here concerning David Wilkerson. Just because a prophecy hasn’t happened within the time frame YOU determine, it sure doesn’t mean it will not happen. I think many people all the way back to Noah expected God, it the prophecy was true, to make things happen immediately after the prophecy, when so much of the time, He took much more time to bring it to pass. 30 years with some of the prophecies David Wilkerson gave is hardly a good length of time when you look at the bible. I would say again…..be cautious to not assume these prophecies will not come to pass….!

  6. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Some of the things he said cannot happen the way he said them in his book anymore. Can you even document one prophecy from God that he make over the last thirty years that has actually came true. So why is he a prophet? By the way, can you tell me any documented prophecy by any recent prophet in the Church that ever came true that Forest Gump could not have figured out was a very likely occurrence.

    I see David Wilkerson as a watchman like myself that sees the world trends and makes certain judgment calls. He makes a mistake when he thinks those calls are direct from God. But, that goes along with his Pentecostalism.

    Really, I cannot even think of one modern day Church prophet who’s prophecies are documented and that came true and were not spoken in some flowery fluff language. Maybe someone can help me out here? Is there a book of Church prophets like there is a book of Church martyrs? I have a book of Catholic prophets that goes back centuries but nothing they said ever came true either.

  7. AnnNo Gravatar says:

    No need for you to believe but for the true believer in God will know that DW is a Man of God and that he speaks what he has been told by God.

    check this comment left by sosmeone at another blog;
    All things considered, take time to read 37 points of interest David Wilkerson wrote 36 years ago in his earlier books “The Vision & Beyond”
    check this link & Let’s’ compare see blog– http://letscompare.blogspot.com/

    1. Economic Crash Coming
    2. Everyone Will Be Affected
    3. Owners of Western Currency in Trouble
    4. New World Monetary System
    5. Economists Confused
    6. False Boom
    7. A Few Good Years to Prepare
    8. Uncontrolled Credit Debt
    9. Bankruptcies of Major Corporations
    10. Government Panic
    11. Auto Industry Hit Hard
    12. Building Industry Setbacks
    13. Gold Will Not Provide Security
    14. Suicide by Overdose
    15. Confusion for the “Positive Thinking” Preachers
    16. The United States to Be Blamed
    17. Recovery From Recession
    18. Drastic Weather Changes
    19. Outbreaks of Epidemics
    20. Famine
    21. Depletion of Relief Funds
    22. Triple-X-Rated Movies on TV After Midnight
    23. Sex Education to Get In on the Act
    24. A Homosexual Epidemic
    25. A Falling Away
    26. A Last-Ditch Attempt to Deceive God’s Chosen
    27. An Increase of False Doctrines
    28. Sex Drug
    29. A “Spirit of Persecution” Is Coming
    30. Homosexuals and Lesbians Welcomed by super church
    31. Persecution From Hollywood
    32. Persecution Through Taxation of Churches
    33. Satan Ministers
    34. Killer Diseases
    35. Burning Oil Fields
    36. Governmental Bankruptcy
    37. Rising Unemployment

    This is just from one book. There are others.

    Comment by Betty1B | March 21, 2009

  8. DonNo Gravatar says:

    I recommend people go to the link and read what David actually is quoted as saying instead of just the short version above.David obviously was very astute about where the world was heading and he could envision the effects of a financial collapse but also keep in mind that he believed this stuff would happen in the 80′s. Why? because he thought we would be in the tribulation in the 80′s .

    This is hardly a vision like it came directly from God because I see some problems in what people think is the fulfillment of what he actually said. For example, how can they say the economic collapse was fulfilled in 2008 and still say the economic collapse he predicted is still coming?Another example is where a few times he says we have a few years. Well a few years by definition is 3 or 4 years not 30 or 40 and obviously he was warning the generation that he wrote the book to, not one forty years in the future.

    You have to remember that the late 60′s and 70′s was the hippie generation, it was already the anything goes generation. Another observation is that in his vision he could see porn coming to late night TV but why could he not see the greater problem of porn on the Internet 24 x 7? Maybe because it did not come to mind because it did not exist, but visions about the future would be aware of the future.

    Things like famine and killer disease, suicide by drug overdose, drastic weather changes, recoveries, false doctrine, Satanic ministers, rising unemployment, persecution, crashes, etc is true in every generation.There are many more things like this, but I can’t spend any more time on this. People should think through what he said themselves.

    I personally think David is one of those people who sits up nights thinking about disasters and actions that ought to come in the direction we were (are) heading in these last day. The problem for me is telling people his thoughts were direct visions from God. Since I could have come up with 37 similar statements thirty years ago about the future and been just as correct and they would not have been visions from God.Anyway I can’t spend any more time on this. People should make their own judgments and also see how far we have fallen because when He wrote this most of this immorality was only starting to be seen but today it is full blown.

  9. Betty1B. “No need for you to believe but for the true believer in God will know that DW is a Man of God and that he speaks what he has been told by God.”

    The shallow nonsense spouted by those of the charismatic persuasion, the sort of claims made by these people and their blind adherence to their visions and ‘experiences’ is part of the apostasy, the falling away of the last days. That Christians, born of God’s Spirit can indulge in it has always amazed me. Their contemptuous dismissal of those who disagree with them is just another display of their emotional instability. You and I Don are not true believers according to Betty1B

    Emotionalism is not and never has been spirituality and those who indulge in emotion are in very great danger of becoming addicted to their ecstatics.

  10. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks for catching that Brian. I missed it. I probably never would have allowed the comment if I had grasped what she was implying. Let’s face it, many of these believers are brainwashed by human idols that they like to put on pedestals.

  11. IlonaNo Gravatar says:

    In Numbers 12:6 the Lord gives the criterion for determining who is a prophet:

    …If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

    If Rev. Wilkerson has seen a vision of the Lord (such as Stephen saw in Acts 7:55-56) it has never been made public. But to be certain he is a minister anointed to preach God’s Word. The word prophet in the bible also means minister and we must be very careful to obey 1 Chronicles 16:22 and Psalm 105:15: Saying, Touch not mine anointed and do my prophets no harm.

    An incident recorded in Deuteronomy 13:1_3 should also be considered: If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or wonder, And the sign or wonder cometh to pass, whereof he spake unto thee saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord proveth you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

    Every prophet/minister should be either endorsed or disregarded based upon whether he preaches the whole Word of God without error and if he obeys the command in Deut 4:2: Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither diminish ought from it.

  12. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Ilona,

    Seems to me that you are giving us conflicting statements.

    The word prophet obviously just means whatever certain people want it to mean these days. A prophet in the Church is someone who spoke forth God’s truth (They did not have access to all scripture in the early Church so needed revelation came through people). The rest of the Church were still instructed to judge each prophecy to determine if it should be accepted by the Church.

    Also, why are you confusing a prophet in the Church with the office of a prophet in the Old Testament. Those scriptures you quoted were talking about Israel’s prophets not people in the Church with the gift of prophecy. You yourself say that a prophet is a minister for the Church but then you turn around and lump a minister to the Church and the OT prophets as if they were the same. Then you apply scripture given about Israelis that held the office of Prophet to that of someone in the Church with the gift of prophecy. That is not logical.

    You say Wilkerson never claimed to have a vision like Stephen, I do not know what that has to do with the price of tea in China? I believe he wrote a book called “The Vision” and I also have another book by Wilkerson on my bookshelf written over thirty years ago that claims visions from God about America.

    Nobody preaches the whole word of God without error so by your own rational everyone fails your test of a prophet.

    There are also warnings in scripture about those who claim messages from God but they speak presumptuously in God’s name. I am afraid that nothing Wilkerson has said has come to pass the way that He said it would. Therefore, the visions he claims are coming from God are coming from himself just like so many other Pentecostals that claim special revelations.

  13. Don, you posted a good article on understanding the “judge not” scripture from 2 Chronicles(as I remember being the reference).

    It was a great lesson in understanding context. The DW supporters and those like the Bob Jones supports love to quote it in defense of their profits (I thought “profit” to be more descriptive than “prophet.”)unscriptural utterances and acts. While the NAR captives will undoubtedly not appreciate it, I would ask that a link or reference be posted.

  14. Ok I found it by using your search box!! It is:

    Common misapplications of selected scriptures

    I hope your servers are not overwhelmed by all the NARites rushing to read it.

  15. DonNo Gravatar says:

    OK Bob, but you did not give the link here it is.

    http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/common-misapplications-of-selected-scriptures.html

    I am sure someone will read it someday.

  16. IlonaNo Gravatar says:

    According to 1 Corinthians 12:28:
    And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers…
    and Ephesians 4:11&12: And he gave some apostles; and some prophets; and some teachers; and some evangelists; and some pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
    It appears that in the new testament God also calls some prophets.

    I do not follow or support Rev. Wilkerson, but I do believe that any preaching of God’s word the Lord can use to bring people to salvation and therefore it is important to obey what the bible teaches about not touching God’s ministers.

  17. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Ilona,

    I am His minister and so is every Christian so then don’t touch anyone? Yet,
    the New Testament tells Christians to test all things and the Church has
    been checking teaching and prophets against God’s Word since the apostles so
    the truth can be determined. You assume that Wilkerson is giving revelation
    from God but what he says tells me that he is misguided and it is my duty as
    a minister of God to point that out to those who will be misled by his
    presumption.

    So you think the end justifies the means. I do not. People better get there
    prophets and pastors off of pedestals and quit making them idols because
    when they are making them “the infallible anointed’ that speak for God they
    are making them idols. God speaks for God in His Word and the Church as the
    Holy Spirit anointed people of God are to judge all things in the light that
    God gives.

    http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/compromising-the-gospel-for-church-growth-and-american-idol-heretics.html

  18. IlonaNo Gravatar says:

    I also believe we should be as the Bereans who searched the scriptures daily to see whether what Paul and Silas preached was true. Acts 17:10-11

    I quit reading Mr Wilkerson many,many years ago and threw away “The Vision”, “Set the Trumpet to thy Mouth” and other writings.

    I understand your point of view, however my conscience will not let me get away from the scriptural admonition not to harm a minister. We will just have to agree to disagree on that point.

  19. DonNo Gravatar says:

    You do not get it. Everyone in the Church is a minister of God. There is no elevated level within the Church called God’s anointed. All true Christians now have the Holy Spirit.

    True, we do have different gifts but we should not claim gifts that we do not have or someone with the gift of wisdom, understanding or discernment can and should point out the errors.

    I guess you think no one should speak about the heretical views of Copeland, Rick Joyner, Todd Bentley, Dutch Sheets and the other prospertity Dominion Theology third wave prophets because they claim to be “anointed apostles and prophets”? We should just let the Church be led anywhere by all kinds of wolves in sheep’s wolves? That certainly was not the position of the Apostles!

    I do not think (we) are harming Rev. Wilkerson to tell him the truth. He is harming himself if what he is saying is not coming from God.
    I think watchmen like Wilkerson should be warning about the direction that we as a nation have taken. The problem is when a watchman crosses over from being a watchmen to hearing things coming out of his own mind. Wilkerson’s visions about direct revelation about specific events really come out of his own hyper-Pentecostalism. If the Church cannot even judge the earthly affairs of the Church how is that we will judge angels?

    I actually think that Wilkerson could be a good watchman but he is not a prophet getting revelation about bank runs and other things that were supposed to have taken place decades ago.

  20. DavidNo Gravatar says:

    I think the bottom line of this conversation is to use discernment when evaluating if a specific someone is truly speaking within the Word of the Living God.

    Too many people are obviously caught up in religious apostasies and “American Idols” instead of the sacred teachings of the scriptures.

    I think it takes a willingness to drop my Pastor or even this Blogs teachings if I felt it is, or became against the divine Word Of God…there is no man nor writing of man that should take precedence over the Lords Word…period !

  21. IlonaNo Gravatar says:

    To David,
    I completely agree!

  22. DonNo Gravatar says:

    It is with deep sorrow that I inform you that Rev Wilkerson was killed in a car crash today. Please pray for his loved ones and his Church. No matter if you believe that his visions about America came from God or not, Rev. Wilkerson certainly was a godly man who lived a godly life trying to win souls for Christ. He certainly is with Christ now.

  23. naomiNo Gravatar says:

    I am going to miss the man who spoke the truth of god no matter what it cost him in this life. May his family be reassured that at this time prayers and love are with them. If you now see the prophesy is now and has come to be (recession in 2011). God’s timing is never our human timing and all things with him are possible.

    xxx

  24. It seems that DW described the phenom we know today as “Flash Mobs”.

    I am neither a promotor nor a detractor of DW. Love your site Don. I don’t always agree, but I think you are on the right track.

    God Bless,
    Paul

  25. JonNo Gravatar says:

    A lot of what is purported to be David Wilkerson’s prophecy of economic collapse rings true now in Sept 2011 with Greece approaching default. However, why can’t I find any verification from Wilkerson that he actually did have that vision or prophecy? I have been searching for hours. The email that I have seen reads like every other bogus circulating email that I have received over the years — “send to all your friends” “red alert from David Wilkerson” The earliest reference I found was 2007, wouldn’t you expect that Wilkerson would have been contacted and posted a response between that time and his passing?

  26. DonNo Gravatar says:

    I think Wilkerson would rather have liked to have forgotten about that failed prophecy. I can say God told me that Jesus will return and I would be correct, However, if I said God told me that Jesus would come but he would only come in Spirit, I would be a liar. In the same way, anyone can predict that our banking system that has few cash reserves on hand will fail someday but if your details about how and when the banking system will fail are wrong it certainly was nothing that God told you.

  27. Don FrittsNo Gravatar says:

    To Anyone who reads this blog ,
    Great care should be taken about any prophecy given by anyone. I can proclaim that Jesus will
    return to earth , that there will be a Great Tribulation, etc , etc. Those are true statements,
    but they certainly do not make me a prophet of God. If someone gives a prophecy and they can give me names , specific dates , the time of day , very specific detail , then maybe I will
    consider them a prophet , otherwise they aren’t. Mr Koening has made many statements on this blog about coming future events that are common sense , you don’t need a prophecy. NEVER has
    Don Koenig declared himself a prophet , he simply uses common sense. There is no verse of scripture that tells Christians to stop using their brain when they accept Christ as Lord and
    Savior. Jesus is either BOTH Lord and Savior in your life Or He is neither. David Wilkerson was
    not ( in my opinion ) a prophet. God gets it exact , not close or approximate. God’s prophet
    has to be right on according to God’s word. Yes , some prophecies in scripture are hard to
    understand , me thinks God made them that way on purpose until He is ready to reveal them to us

  28. JoeNo Gravatar says:

    I can help you with a modern prophet that made a well known prephecy that has come true. There is a Catholic saint (Elizabeth Ann Seton) who, in the mid 1800s, prophesied that in the future satan would enter American homes through a black box. She was very frustrated because she said the people had the power to just turn the box off, but they would not do it. Of course, this was well before radios and TVs and computers, but the reference is obvious. I guess you could say it came true – pretty much literally.

  29. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Joe,

    I have heard of her. Give me the prophecy in the context that she said it and also give me the source.

    I do not want someone’s interpretation of what they think she said. I find that much of what is said about dead peoples prophecies are actually someone’s interpretations of what was said rather than what was actually said.

  30. does anybody know how much david wilkerson was worth when he died??
    im just curious

  31. ~DavidNo Gravatar says:

    re: fightingeagle

    What David Wilkerson was worth ?

    I hope he was worth being with the Lord for eternity !

  32. RayNo Gravatar says:

    If you want to listen to David Wilkerson give his testimony about the “vision” that he had, you can do a youtube search on “1973 Prophecy”.

    With the economists, bankers, and governments of the world extremely concerned what will happen when one of these countries in Europe default, there is definite reason to consider that David Wilkerson was given a vision from God to warn the church and prepare her for what is soon to come. Specifically David said that that One country in Europe or North Africa would default first (affecting Europe mostly), then weeks later Mexico would default (affecting the US). Martin Weiss, who is a highly respected rater of economic strengths of banks and nations is interesting. He has just downgraded Mexico’s ability to repay their debt. David’s interpretation of his vision is not like the inspired Word of God, but his vision very well may have been from God in consideration of what is happening today.

    God is good!

  33. RayNo Gravatar says:

    In addition David Wilkerson spoke of an earthquake that would be worse than anything in US history (if I remember correctly), and he said that if he understood the vision, it would be proceeded by a devastating earthquake in Japan (March 2011 could be considered). The earthquake he spoke of hitting the US has not happened yet. But if his vision was from God and the earthquake in Japan that he spoke of was the March 2011 earthquake, then the US can expect an extremely devastating earthquake that will be worse than any other natural disaster in US history that Wilkerson said would dominate news coverages all day long. Will it happen? I don’t know. Then he spoke of Macy’s being looted and New York burning. Will it happen? I don’t know. But I see Athens burning. And if Wilkerson is right about there being bank runs on US banks soon after Mexico defaults (if that really happens), then if the banks do close as Wilkerson absolutely said they would, then I can certainly consider that New York would become like Athens and burn. And I could see Macy’s being looted. We see the attitude of these Wall street protesters. I don’t believe that Wilkerson was inspired to interpret his dreams without error, but that does not mean that his vision did not come from God.

    God is good

  34. RayNo Gravatar says:

    IN WILKERSON’S OWN WORDS

    The United States is going to experience in the not-too-distant
    future the most tragic earthquakes in its history. One day soon
    this nation will be reeling under the impact of the biggest news
    story of modern times. It will be coverage of the biggest most
    disastrous earthquake in history.

    It will cause widespread panic and fear, Without a doubt, it will
    become one of the most completely reported earthquakes ever.
    Television networks will suspend all programming and carry all
    day coverage.

    Another earthquake , possibly in Japan may precede the one that
    I see coming here. There is not the slightest doubt in my mind
    about this forthcoming massive earthquake in our continent.

    I am not at all convinced that this earthquake will take place in
    California. In fact, I believe it is going to take place where it is
    least expected. This terrible earthquake may happen in an area
    that not known as an earthquake belt. It will be so high on the
    Richter scale that it will trigger two other major earthquakes.

  35. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Ray,

    You have to consider that when David Wilkerson said this Mexico was in so bad shape that it had to be bailed out by the United States. It is really a stretch to think that David was talking about 40 years in the future. If this was given to warn the Church to prepare do you really see any Church preparation taking place? In every economic crisis people just look for someone’s prophecies to be fulfilled thinking that then they found a prophet and their other prophecies will then be fulfilled.

    I can make a prophecy that someday there will be a bank holiday we almost had one in 2008 that does not make me a prophet.

  36. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Ray,

    Again this prediction was made at the time when many were saying California would fall in the Ocean. I can guarantee that we will have the worst earthquake in our history sometime in the future and Japan is the most unstable place on earth I also can guarantee such earthquakes will happen there. That just makes me aware of geology it does not make me a prophet. I also can guarantee that we will have riots and fires. That makes me aware of the polarization and evil that is occurring in this country it does not make me a prophet.

  37. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Ray,

    I think 40 years is the distant future to the contemporary people that you were talking to.

    If we are about 15 or 20 years from the tribulation like I suspect, then the book of Revelation tells us there will be the worst earthquake the world has ever known during the tribulation of those days and it won’t just hit the United States. The Church cannot prepare for that earthquake and it probably is only 20 years away. Yet, you think God gave Wilderson a vision so that the Church could prepare for something said by Wilkerson that has not occurred after almost 40 years. It simply is not logical and Wilkerson’s prophecies have had no impact on the Church. David Wilkerson was a brooder that saw things that he expected to see happen because of America’s sin.

  38. PatNo Gravatar says:

    Pastor Wilkerson has been right on target with all of his prophecies so far. Not one thing has he prophesied that has NOT yet come true – that is the way to determine whether one is a false prophet. Even John hoped his “Revelations” were going to come true in his lifetime as evidenced by the passage “Even so, come, Lord Jesus.” Until you can show me something specific that David Wilkerson was wrong about, then it is simply conjecture on your part.

  39. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Pat,

    That simply is not true, many things David Wilkerson said have not come true. You have it backwards the test of a true prophet is that everything he says must come true. That is now quite impossible with the many prophecies made by the late David Wilkerson.

    It is hard to show you something specific when people push the fulfillment of the prophecies that he gave in the 70′s and beyond into some nebulous future. This long delay was something he never even suggested and with the prophecy on the Mexican banks failing it was obvious that he was talking about the Mexican crises of the era when he wrote about it. He was not talking about events decades down the road. How could anyone ever be wrong if you keep claiming it will still happen? Tell me something specific that he was correct about that any watchman could not ascertain by just observing the spiral of the US into immorality?

  40. PatNo Gravatar says:

    So then you are saying John is not a prophet, because not EVERYTHING he has said has come true. You are saying Daniel is not a prophet, because not EVERYTHING he has said has come true. God doesn’t work on YOUR time schedule. He works on GOD’S time schedule. You need to know the difference.

  41. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Pat

    You need to learn the difference between Bible prophecy and the writings of those claiming the presumptions of their own mind. You are putting Wilkerson on the same level as John and Daniel??? Jesus Himself suggested that the prophetic office ended with John (Mt 11:13). John testified of Jesus, not the fall of any Gentile nation. All prophets of the Bible were Israelites. Prophets in the Church have nothing to do with predicting the future of Gentile nations. Everything that John the Baptist was preaching came true in his time through Jesus Christ. Some of prophecies given to Daniel said that they would occur in the last days and so they will. I do not see how you equate the prophetic presumptions of Wilkerson to the chosen prophets of Israel.

    Come to think of it, I do know why you do. You wish to believe that God follows the suggested presumptions of self anointed prophets because what they said fits your own worldview. That equates you with all the enablers of false prophets that have been claiming special revelation about the future for centuries.

  42. One must remember that God gives warning in advance as I believe he does give people power via prayer and seeking His face to alter at least some òf what he has put in motion to happen if not eventwise then in other instances events may be pushed ahead in time to happen a bit later. It ís up to the Almighty as what he says will happen whilst other things ìf we are truly lístening he lets us know certain things will happen IF man does not humble himself and stays on a certain course. God does not lie. When he says an event will happen in many cases he leaves it up to people to change their ways because he sees that if they stay doing exactly what they are doing then destruction is going to happen. Reference Jonah 4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day’s journey, and he cried , and said , Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown . 5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them. 6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes. 7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying , Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed , nor drink water: 8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands. 9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent , and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not? 10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

  43. Now let us rest on the argument that if a person says God told them something will happen and later at times people see it ?id not happen and laugh the person that said it to scorn whilst they may not at all consider that had they kept on doing EACTLY as they were doing things would truly have happened as earlier stated. If not then while you are putting down Rev. David Wilkerson then you might as well try to diss his fellow prophet Jonah for Jonah said Yet 40 days and Niveveh shall be overthr?wn and it ?id not happen. He was a prophet. The people prayed and turned to God and were spared. It actually ticked Johnah off that God showed them mercy and God gave Johnah a lesson on mercy later.

  44. DonNo Gravatar says:

    Ben,

    You seem to be suggesting that Wilderson’s prophecy did not come about yet because America did something as a nation to repent. I have not seen any thing like that happen at all. Within days that Jonah gave the prophecy to Niveveh the whole nation repented in sack cloth and ashes. It has not happened here and David Wilkerson is not a prophet from Israel like Jonah.

    The Almighty God is not blind-sighted so that a people can take Him by surprise so that a nation can change the days determined for them. God already knew that Niveveh would repent if Jonah gave His message to Nineveh, that is why He sent Him. Jonah hated the Assyrians and did not want to give the message so that they would repent. That is why Jonah refused to go. Then after Jonah found out that he had no choice he sulked after God showed the mercy on Niveveh that Jonah expected would happen as a result of his prophetic imminent judgement message.

    Trying to equate the failed prophecies of Wilkerson with the prophecy of Jonah that was delayed because God foreknew that if He sent Niveveh a Israeli prophet that they would indeed repent, is comparing apples and oranges. Even Jesus got down on Israel because a greater one that Jonah was before them and Israel had not repented like Niveveh. Yet, He said Niveveh would have repented, implying that Israel had more unbelief than a Gentile pagan nation. He knew that Israel would not repent and would crucify Him and He knew that would happen before the foundations of the world. So what God determined and foreknew would happened, happened in both cases, man did not change it.

    By the way, I am not putting down David Wilkerson. I believe he was a watchman sensitive to the evil of our times but he did not get direct Revelation from God and was not a prophet in the sense that he could give precise events about the future. He tried and failed, just as others that claim such direct revelation try and fail. You see, God already told us the future of the Church age in NT apostolic instruction and the letters to the seven churches in Revelation. What more does the church really need to know about the future that it should now rely on self appointed anointed that consistently shoot blanks? How do these messages mature the Church and is there any evidence at all that the claimed prophetic messages have matured the Church? How anyone can look at the mess in the prophetic signs and wonders movement and still think that this is a work of God is beyond me.

  45. Don

    Any and everyone in the prophetic signs and wonders movement MUST see these things so as to authenticate the views of the most destructive movement to hit the Church since replacement theology and Roman Catholicism – the Pentecostal movement.

  46. David WilsonNo Gravatar says:

    Hello Don,
    My comment is addressed to Brian from Oz.
    Brian, do you really mean everyone in the Pentecostal movement, or just certain segments or particular churches? I will identify myself as one who attends an AG church (in Springfield, Mo. no less). I do not see the pastor and the leadership of the church I attend as “destructive”. Quite the contrary. It is not emergent, seeker sensitive, name it-claim it, word of faith, ritualistic, hard core traditionalist, etc… The preaching is from God’s word, based on the finished work on the cross of Jesus. Like every church I have been in, it is a family/group of believers, which is to say; it ain’t perfect. Imperfect; yes. Destructive; no.

    Might you consider that everyone in the prophetic signs and wonders movement doesn’t walk on water either? I totally understand the frustration of all on this blog; common sense and reason and Scriptural reference about prophets, versus loyalty to a man, David Wilkerson, (who did a lot of good for the kingdom), and (imo) his obvious error in date setting and claims of revelation from God, concerning current events that have not happened, nor will.

    Brian, I appreciate your comments, but you, in fact, threw the baby out with the bathwater. I am personally not upset, but gee, if you’re going to come down hard on these other folk on this blog (and I do agree with most of Don’s comments and yours), you may want to reconsider before opening yourself up to such a generalization as yours.

    Enjoy this site a lot; always much food for thought to chew on.

    Respectfully,

    David
    around Springfield in the Mo. Ozarks

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