Can you imagine any of the Apostles appearing before millions of people but never giving the gospel message to them? Yet, the pastors of two of the largest churches in America, did just that, when appearing on three hours of Oprah’s Lifeclass program.
Forget politicians, the real reason for America’s problems become more evident in the churches Americans go to and the religious leaders that they follow. Evangelical leaders don’t even know what the Christian message is anymore, or else, they cannot or will not express it. I think Joel Osteen, Rick Warren together with Oprah and all their followers represent the real problem in America among those that still identify with Christianity. “Apostates Together” is a fitting name for this movement.
Two of the most well-known “evangelical” pastors in America are given three hours on Oprah’s program, but instead of giving the gospel of Jesus Christ they promote their own misguided philosophies and themselves. Yet, undiscerning “Christians” keep flocking to their churches and buying their materials.
Joel Osteen hyped his new book, “I Declare: 31 Promises to Speak Over Your Life“. Many Christians think that Osteen is just a feel good gospel lite pastor. That is not all one should know about him. Joel Osteen is really a wolf in sheep’s clothing with a different gospel. This man also has a very deceptive dangerous message that is a lie from Satan.
Joel Osteen inherited Lakewood Church from his father John Osteen, who was a leading Word of Faith Theology promoter. The apple did not fall far from the tree. Joel Osteen might have started out with his feel good gospel lite message but now he is taking up where his father left off, claiming that your own words can create reality.
Joel Osteen, like New Age guru Oprah, claim that you get what you say. There is not a whole lot of difference between Word Faith teaching and New Age philosophy and that is why Osteen and Oprah are so much in agreement. “The Secret“ of New Age, and Word of Faith Theology say about the same thing.
As the saying goes, “birds of a feather flock together”. I realize that some evangelicals say that they would appear with the Devil if they could just give the gospel message to people, but that hardly applies here, because neither Osteen or Warren gave any true salvation message.
It was not only the size of their churches that got Joel Osteen and Rick Warren invited on Oprah’s program, it was that they have common beliefs and those beliefs are very much a satanic lie.
From what I read, Rick Warren gave his usual God has a purpose for everyone and they need to find it, message. When a woman called the program saying that, “she needed God” and asked, “what should I do”? Warren could or would not lead her to Christ. Here is a clip from a discernment website that documents Rick Warren’s response to this woman on the Oprah program.
What was really hard to watch is when a woman in Norway Skyped to say she realized she needed God but wanted to know who God is and she asked, “What should I do?” It was clear that she was ripe to hear the gospel and needed Jesus! It was a great opportunity to share the gospel with her, and at the same time, for Oprah to hear it. Instead of giving the gospel, Rick Warren seemed uncomfortable and finally just said something like, ‘Go to God and find your purpose.” It was a terrible moment! The woman looked surprised and sad, like she was expecting something else. I prayed for her later and am hoping that the many Christians who witnessed this will pray for her. source
This is nothing new. Rick Warren has yet to give a clear salvation message on any of the many world platforms that he has appeared on. Yet, Warren has the second largest Southern Baptist Congregation in the country? If Bible believing Christians were actually running Saddleback Church, I doubt if Rick Warren would be there anymore.
Rick Warren has been pretty consistent in his double mindedness. I have many articles about Rick Warren being off target on this website. You can find them through the search box on the bottom of my website homepage. Like many of the new evangelicals, the key to Rick Warren’s popularity is telling the world what they want to hear rather than what they need to hear.
Of course, the problem of apostasy from biblical Christianity is not limited to just Warren, Osteen and Oprah.
Billy Graham is the grandaddy of the Evangelical Movement but the BGEA website suddenly just removed the view that Mormonism is a cult. So What changed? Did Mormons denounce their demonic doctrine? Does BGEA actually believe that Mormonism is now Christianity, or is it that they do not want to say anything that might harm Mitt Romney’s chances to be elected? From what Billy Graham said recently, he is all-in for Romney, but what does that have to do with telling the truth about Mormonism? Billy Graham has a history of compromising the Gospel to please some political or religious establishment.
It is well documented that Catholics that responded to Billy Graham’s crusades were turned back over to the Roman Catholic Harlot by the order of Billy Graham. It was Graham that agreed not to proselytize Roman Catholics.
The Magazine, “Christianity Today” was founded by Billy Graham but it has become a very liberal big tent Christianity magazine that now helps promote all sorts of heretics and heresies.
Billy Graham has said that he believes that people in other religions can know Jesus without anyone ever giving them the gospel message. It makes me wonder what he thinks the great commission and his crusades was all about if everyone can now find Jesus through osmosis?
So, are we to believe that all the martyrs for the faith died for nothing? After all, we have evangelicals out there that think everyone can find Jesus without ever hearing the message that these people died for! I think what happens here is that as some people age and see their loved ones die, their theology broadens to help accommodate the salvation of their dead loved ones. Now, even Jack Van Impe’s pets will go to Heaven.
It seems that many mega churches that are also called evangelical churches became mega churches by giving people a false gospel. If a knowledgeable discerning biblical Christian went down the list of mega churches in America, they would find out that about one-half of them are into some kind of heretical doctrine that just itches people’s ears.
Evangelical leaders are falling all over themselves to broaden Christianity to please the world. Many Christian leaders seem to believe that, decency, morality, and American patriotism now equate to Christianity. The fictionalization of what real Christianity is among the evangelical leadership in America and their large following does not speak well for any renewal in America. However, it does speak well for “Apostates Together” in America.
Don Koenig founded www.thepropheticyears.com website in 1999 after almost thirty years of independent study on the Bible and learning from many astute teachers within Christendom. Don created his website to write about Bible prophecy, biblical discernment and his Christian worldviews. Don wrote a free Revelation commentary ebook in 2004 named "The Revelation of Jesus Christ Through The Ages". The World and Church and Bible Prophecy section of this website was started in 2007.