A thought came to be out of the clear blue today. That does not happen often enough, so I better run with this conjecture although doing so will probably bring down the wrath of Khan on my head.
First, anyone reading what I write knows that I am not antisemitic. In fact, those that read my material would call me a Christian Zionist. I believe that God made unconditional land promises to the descendants of Israel and that God has defined their borders forever. The Bible also tells why the Jews were exiled from the land given to them and the Bible promises that the Jews would one day return. We have seen a partial return to Israel but less than 25 percent of those identified as Jews in the world have actually returned to the land of Israel. I think a day is coming when the remainder will be forced to return.
Jer 16:13 Therefore will I cast you out of this land into a land that ye know not, neither ye nor your fathers; and there shall ye serve other gods day and night; where I will not shew you favour.
14 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be said, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
15 But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers.
16 Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks.
The thought that came to me is that high-powered bankers are in the process of taking over much of the wealth of America and the world. Most of these world bankers are thought to be Jews. However, it is more likely that these atheistic “Jews” are really Edomities that learned the Jewish culture. The Edomities became identified as Jews when “John Hyrcanus conquered the whole of Edom and undertook the forced conversion of its inhabitants to Judaism (Joseph., Ant. XIII, 9, 1). Thenceforth the Edomites became a section of the Jewish people.” (Encyclopedia Judaica, Vol. 6, (1971), p. 378; The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia (1977), p. 589).
The Edomites also occupied the land during the exiles and even ruled over Israel at various times. For example Haman was an Edomite in the days of Queen Esther and The Herod’s were Edomites that ruled over the Jews in Judea around the time that Jesus sojourned on the earth. There is good reason to believe that even the religious leaders of Israel were mostly Jewish Edomites and that is why Jesus called them a den of vipers.
The Edomites adopted Israelite culture and outwardly they appear to be Israelites in every respect. The Edomites migrated and some were exiled to the wealthy nations. In fact Jacob made a prophecy over Esau when he said that Esau’s future dwellings would be in the fatness of the earth (the rich nations – Gen 27:39). Many Edomites became members of the Roman Empire or they went East.
It is not unlikely then that the Edomites are returning today with true Israelites to Israel as Jews and this will be even more likely in the future as antisemitism rises. These Edomites are the people that will embrace the Antichrist and persecute the true Jews in Israel during the time of Jacob’s trouble.
The only way you probably can tell a Edomite from a Israelite today is that true Jews retrain the knowledge of God and Edomites are openly hostile toward God and present themselves more or less as Jewish atheists. Karl Marx would be a great example except his father converted to Lutheran but there is no doubt about his Jewish roots. Actually, the study of the Edomites and how they intermingled with Israelites is quite complex and interesting. It probably explains much of what is going on in the world today and Bible prophecy. You might research this topic for yourself.
Edom means red and the Rothschild family (Red Shield family) with its offspring might have a direct bloodline to Esau. I realize that the first Rothschild converted to Judaism in 740 AD but the first Rothschild was named Mayer Bauer who for some reason changed his name to Rothschild (red shield) probably to identify with what were a red people (Edomites?). From what I read, Bauer was identified with the Ashkenazi Jews, and that Ashkenaz was a region in Magog where the so-called “red Jews” of Khazaria had ruled an empire on the north shores of the Black and Caspian seas.
Some claim that the Rothschild’s, and most other Ashkenazi Jews, are descended from the Khazars (Turks that had no blood line to Jacob). Even religious Jews today are saying that these world bankers are really Edomites and not Israelites and I tend to believe them. Below are a few names from an article on the house of Rothschild.
I have no way of knowing if what is said in the below clip and the article it comes from is correct. This excerpt of that article is only offered as food for thought because of what else I am implying in this post.
The Book of Revelation, Chapter 2, Verse 9, states the following which would appear to be about these Ashkenazi Jews that are probably converts and descendants of Esau:
“I know thy works, and tribulation and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” The most wealthy bloodline in the world bar none and the leader of the Ashkenazi Jews in the world today is the Rothschild family. As you will see in the timeline, the Rothschild’s have obtained this position through lies, manipulation and murder. Their bloodline also extends into the Royal Families of Europe, and the following family names: Astor; Bundy; Collins; DuPont; Freeman; Kennedy; Morgan; Oppenheimer; Rockefeller; Sassoon; Schiff; Taft; and Van Duyn. However, these are not the only blood lines to worry about. You are probably aware of the centuries old practice undertaken by many Ashkenazi Jews whereby they would change their name, in order for them to appear part of the dominant race of the country in which they lived, so as they could obtain influential positions in that country, which they would then exploit to serve their real masters elsewhere. There is plenty of evidence to prove the Rothschild’s continue that deceptive tradition.
Furthermore the Rothschilds are known to sire many children secretly that they can put into positions of power when required. This started with the very first man who took the name Rothschild, who had a secret sixth son. Finally, remember the world is a diverse place, I could if I wanted change my name to Rothschild, or any of the names listed above, and that would not make me part of this family anymore than converting to Judaism in 740 A.D. will make these Ashkenazis Jewish.
Please, therefore, do not automatically assume someone you see with the name Rothschild or any of the names listed above are part of the Rothschild criminal network. Furthermore and most importantly, the majority of Ashkenazi Jews are innocent and not part of this network. Check the facts out for yourself first, this article is designed to inform people who the enemy is, not single out people of a particular race or people with a particular surname, who may have nothing to do with this Rothschild criminal network.
Anyway, here’s my real point on this article. We should see today that the whole world is controlled by a few thousand super rich elitists. These people control over half of the wealth in the world. They pose as Jews but they most likely are Edomites. Because they are Edomites, it also explains the anti Israelite stand that they take that may incorrectly be labeled as Jew-on-Jew hatred. Because they are descendants from Esau and Ishmael they always side with the people east of Israel. The secret societies that they set up over the years also identifies with people east of Israel. For example, you can see the Babylonian and Islamic symbolism in the Masonic Blue Lodge and in the head garb of the Shriner’s.
I think these Edomites are hording the wealth of the world and the fact that it will bring the world system down is of little concern to them because it is part of a planned agenda against true descendants of Jacob. They know that when the world economic system collapses it will bring a violent revolution against all the Israelites in the world. The Jews will be scapegoated. That might be the satanic hidden motivation behind all this. I have been saying for quite some time that Israel was created in 1948 for the purpose of getting all the Israelites in one place as Satan’s plan to kill them there. In other words, it is to be the ultimate and final death camp for Israel, but the God of Israel has another agenda for the Jews.
Meanwhile, they claim to be non religious world socialists and thus distance themselves from the true Israelites. But, when the people of the world lose most of their wealth because of the agenda of these world bankers they will become so incensed against all that are identified as Jews that all Jews will have to go back to Israel for their own self-protection. That will include the Edomites, but since they will have most of the world’s wealth in commodities like gold, silver and other things they will take it with them to Israel. Nobody can deny that the Bible predicts a time of great persecution against the Jews by those who follow the Antichrist and False prophet.
This could be the very reason that Gog comes down to take a spoil from Israel after the Edomites loot the world and plant themselves in Israel thinking that they are secure.
Here is some additional food for thought. In the first exodus when God led Israel out of Egypt the Egyptians freely gave articles of gold and silver to Israel and made her wealthy. In the final Exodus back to Israel the Edomites will pilfer the nations of gold and precious things and move it to Israel and the whole world will be incensed against Israel. This will set the stage for the Antichrist to enter the scene but the world will not be able to implement any force against Israel until after the two prophets of God are killed by the Antichrist.
Therefore, if world events between Jacob and Esau are orchestrated as I surmise. Nothing much we do in the short-term in the U.S. is going to amount to a hill of beans in the long prophetic picture.
Hi Don, it looks like you have your CSS working properly (as I can see it in Google Chrome).
I may have mentioned the Rothschild family in a previous post. Supposedly they have at least half of the world’s wealth and control almost all of the central banks except for North Korea, Iran, Iraq, and a few others. Anyway, I have read that there are not thousands of people that run the world, but a handful (Council of 13). Who really knows?! Like a runner who has his sights set on the finish line, I have my sights set on Jesus Christ. I choose to believe he rose from the dead and is the almighty, living God. Without him there is no hope.
Have a wonderful day, everyone.
Hi David,
This morning I looked at this article and saw too many mistakes and I added some thoughts so anyone who read it before this comment might read it again.
When I was speaking about thousands I was talking about the obvious elite that have control over most of this world. It is quite possible that these thousands are heavily influenced by a inner circle few. After all, almost all of the thousands are still influenced by one man named Karl Marx.
Don, thank you. The article is indeed thought provoking and deserves personal research.
You have touched on an interesting subject that the Holy Spirit has also brought to my attention. I wonder about George Soros, as well. Another super rich anti-Semitic hating Jew who has toppled countries economically and some now say, has his sights on the U.S., where, by the way, lives the largest concentration of Jewish people. The Almighty knows His own and sits in the heavens and laughs at the schemes of men. That gives me comfort as I struggle to trust Him and not my nest egg.
George Soros? He came to mind as I was writing this and I think it is more likely than not.
Don, this was a very well written blog and gives much fuel for thought! There was an excellent book that I read awhile back called “Guardians of the Grail” by J.R. Church, that suggested that many of these Jews would be of the tribe of Dan. This tribe was to be the serpent in the way that would judge his people. He gives geneologies and historical facts and also goes into the Rothschild connection. Perhaps both Edom and Dan of will have an end time role.
Thanks, Many have talked about the tribe of Dan and what that might suggest. I am sure that the descendants of Dan also has some connection in all this. Perhaps there is some intermarriage connection. But, I caution that I really only know enough about all this stuff to be dangerous. Others that claim to be the real experts are truly dangerous because they take their conjecture as fact and make the Jews Edomities and then make the white Anglo-Saxon’s Israel.
Hi Don
I have spent the morning reading the ‘article on the house of Rothschild’ by Andrew Hitchcock, and found it interesting and provocative.
The house of Rothschild may be all that was reported (from what I have read elsewhere I believe it is the case), but the article ended on an unmistakeably anti Israeli note. Mostly it voices strong condemnation of the Rothschild’s dynasty but ends with condemnation of Jews (not Edomites) and of Israel.
The reader’s appended comments show I am not alone in this opinion for those comments are entirely anti Israel.
This would indicate that the article’s purpose was not to enlighten but to incite anti Israeli sentiment. The ‘Protocols of Zion’ all over again.
I would encourage Christians to read this article but to do so in the light of God’s promises to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Hi Don,
I had a completely different perception than Don from Oz. I did not perceive your article to be anti-Israel. I viewed it as an explanation of why some who are “Jewish” have a serious dislike for other Jews and Israel.
Bob, I don’t think that is what Brian was saying, I believe he was talking about the article I referenced. I just referenced that article to give some historical linage of the Rothschilds and their descendants as food for though they are not true Israelite’s. I did not even read all of this quite long article. I certainly was not enforcing the views of the author.
You are right Don, I in no way believe your article to be at fault.
Bob from Texas, It is as Don has stated, my criticism is with the article by Andrew Hitchcock. If you have time I would recommend reading the article. If you can will you let us all know if you concur with my critique.
Brian
Brian,
I do not even have time to read it all, yet try to determine how much of it is true.
In my life I have learned not to just believe one side of any point of view no matter how convincing it sounds. If you can find a Jewish historian I suppose you would hear something quite the opposite. Then, I suppose the truth would lie somewhere between the two extremes
I find it hard to believe that the Rothchild’s have been and are controlling all world events. More likely they can be identified with such things as the author mentions because they had some financial interests in them. That does not mean that they had control of world events any more than you would be in control of Bank of America if you held a few percent of the stock. You would have influence but you would not have control.
Also, because the author can find one Rothchild that made a statement of desire that can be quoted does not mean that the Rothchild’s brought it about just because events in the world sort of played out that way. It is like saying that if my world trends forecast turn out the way I think they should, then I brought them about.
I also find it very hard to believe that Ashkenazi Jews or Edomities are 90 percent of those that are identified as Jews. I agree with you Brian, that the article is more or less saying that modern Israel is not made up of true Israelites.
I do think there is a Edomite influence in the affairs of Israel and world Jews, even the Jews say so. But to make the whole Jewish state illegitimate is rather ridiculous. Also with my brief scan of the article I can see that some facts are just unfounded conjecture or outright lies.
I think articles like this are written by conspiracy theory neo-Nazis. They are probably written by British Israel proponents. It should be taken with a grain of salt. I only quoted it because of the early Rothchild genealogy I was not able to find it in such great detail elsewhere.
I kind of wish I never linked to that article but I have little fear that anyone will actually click on that link and actually read the entire article. I know for a fact that few read links. Especially links to long articles. Brian, That kind of makes you unique, and yes, I do agree with your assessment that the article is anti Israel.
Hi Don and Brian,
I see where I became confused.
Thanks for the clarification.
I am a little further confused; which link is to the article?
There is only one link in the article. It is the orange words above the quoted part that says “article on the house of Rothchild”. I always try to include a link to an article when I clip something from it.
Don (and Brian),
I read the article from your link, above. The article is long and has an obvious anti-Israel bias. Which makes me wonder about the veracity of many assertions and what information the writer is withholding.
Reading the comments is also interesting.
I read a couple of the links – also anti-Israeli. The bias of the writer (of the article referenced) is obvious.
Hi, I have a question… Do these Edomites have any part in the temple rebuild?
I’m reading / studying Rev. 11 and all this gets me wondering.
Thanks
I have no way of knowing. That would kind of depend on who was supervising the project and if the Temple is the millennial Temple or a unauthorized copy.
Don:
Great article…makes one think
Hi Don,
Have you read the Jerry Golden article ‘The Roots of Evil in Jerusalem’.
It does seem to verify some of the seeming anti Israel material in the article on the Rothschild dynasty discussed 17th November.
Yours
I have not read it.
Very interesting article but there is no mention of Sephardic Jews in it, How do sephardic jews fit into everything?
I don’t think the Sephardic Jews fit in at all. I also really do not know if you mean the ethic narrow sense of the word (Spanish Jews) or the broader religious meaning that would include most Jews of Asian and African origin, who use a Sephardic style of liturgy. This article is talking about Ashkenazi Jews that probably are Edomites. Like I said in the article, I am no expert on the Jews, but I do think that there are Edomites among those being identified as Jews and these Edomites are the atheist elite controlling much of the world financial system. Follow the link in the article on the house of Rothschild for more information. Any questions on what is implied there should be directed at that author.
I was just wondering if Sephardic jews were real jews or also counterfeit like the Ashkenazi/ Khazers. Since Sephardic jews also claim to be jews and they also currently live in Israel, they make the same claim as the Ashkenazi. It seems they work together, I was just wondering if they were legit or not.
I do not think you can broad-brush either group or any of this. My article was about Edomites that were forced to convert to Judaism or did it for advantage but they never really believed in the God of Israel. Today they are identified with the Jews but they are generally atheistic and that is probably the key way to identify the Edomites among those who are claiming to be Jews. A second identification would be that they are in high positions especially in the area of finance.
This was a small part of Netanyahu’s pronouncement on Holocaust Martyrs’ and Heroes’ Remembrance Day, in Israel: (As reported by the Jerusalem Post)
He said, “If we don’t defend ourselves, the world won’t stand by our side. It is appropriate to declare here, today, and now to all of our enemies that they should know one thing: When the people of Israel and the army of Israel say to the world ‘never again’, we mean every word.”
The Palestinians are doing a great PR job to get the socialists in the EU to side with them. The next flotilla may start the return of US Jews to Israel.
This goes back to Ammi’s post of Nov. 13, 2010.
Since Soros is anti-Israel, he may be working in the shadows to assist and promote the upcoming floatilla. I wonder if the flotilla will meet a similar fate as Amin and Uganda when they held the Israeli hostage?
God will not be mocked. I believe God’s hand was on the IDF in that instance.
Interestingly, Baron Rothschild has an investment in the O & G discovery in Israel. I don’t envision him on the same side of the table as Soros.
Don, I am interested what you’re thinking on this upcoming confrontation.
Your guess is as good as mine. I think they will either make the ships go to port or Israel will cave. It is a lose lose situation for Israel either way but that is the reality they live under. Only returning to God will be their salvation and they need to realize that.
Wow Don , you really did your homework on this article , GREAT JOB!!!!! I have a Chuck Missler CD that talks about the Edomites and another name he mentioned was Roosevelt.
Could the One World Government leader be an Edomite as well? Just thinking…
Are you making a hypothesis? Some of your information is based on the scriptures ( bible) but then it seems like you are just coming up with ideas. Besides a stronger conclusion based on the bible you are also missing a piece of the puzzle. Who are the real Israelites? It can’t be the people who are in Jerusalem now because the bible says that Yah will bring all the Israelites back at an appointed time. Not little by little.
Steve,
Who the true Israelites really are will be sorted out in the Great tribulation. Two-thirds in the land will be cut off and a third refined through the fire. It has been the appointed time to bring Israelites back to their land in unbelief for quite some time now. Read Ezekiel 34 through 37. The prophecies about Israel cannot even be fulfilled until their are Israelites again living in the Land in unbelief, as there is today.
Don: Last year sometime I was researching something and came upon an interview with Lloyd Blankfein of Morgan Stanley. He smugly sat there and stated he was ‘god’. My blood boiled that most of our US congress cater to and encourge these sick f***s. I so look forward to all of them getting their just desserts. I had been reading up on the Rothchilds. Thank you for tying it all together.
Respectfully, D