Is Jesuit Pope Francis the Antichrist or the False Prophet?
This Blog deals with world and church trends and Bible prophecy so I would be remiss if I did not write something about the first Jesuit Pope ever to take the throne. Pope Francis now rules over half of what is called Christendom with its 1.2 billion Roman Catholics. This Pope will also have great influence with other world religious leaders and world governments.
I recently have already written on the supposed prophecy attributed to St. Malachy. The prophecy says that Peter the Roman will be the last Pope before Rome is destroyed and judgment comes on the world. This present Pope is the 112th Pope and last Pope on the Malachy list. I will not be rehashing that story here except to briefly mention that some have already found reasons to believe that Pope Francis fits the description of Peter the Roman.
The new Pope is Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina. He is a son of Italian parents so some think that qualifies him as being a Roman. This Pope took on the name Francis after St. Francis of Assisi who some say was once named Francesco di Pietro (Peter) di Bernardone. They see some significance in that. I do not. What the last Pope proponents see as more significant is that Pope Francis is a theological conservative Jesuit. They say that means that he will try to establish a one world religion under his own authority. For people to understand the implications I will get into some of what the Jesuits are about.
What I will be saying about the Jesuits is not a scholarly study on the Jesuit order, if you want scholarly research on the Jesuit order you can find plenty of material for that study on the Internet along with probable misinformation. For example, Brannon Howse is now offering a $19.95 four hour CD on the Jesuits (as of this writing it is free to those that are members of his situation room). Understanding the Times also has a good free article named The Jesuit Agenda and the Evangelical Protestant Church.
There are countless articles written on the Jesuits but to separate fact from fiction takes real scholarship. I do not have a clue if they actually say the gruesome oaths that have been attributed to them and that are all over the Internet. There are also articles debunking these oaths. So who really knows about what goes on in highly secretive societies?
I think it is safe to say that only the very brightest priests are allowed into the Jesuit order and the primary mission of Jesuits is to counter the protestant reformation and bring the whole world under the Pope’s authority and establish a world church on earth.
The Jesuits have been working toward that end since the mid 1500′s. Jesuits do take oaths of obedience to the Pope and they take oaths to oppose those that are opposing the Roman Church agenda. They intend to bring about a counter-reformation through any means necessary. They very much are the secret police of the Pope and have taken oaths to follow any orders from the Pope without question. The brightest of them even act as secret undercover agents. You likely will never find out that some very high up figures in government, science, religion, corporations and economics have sworn allegiance to the Jesuit order and its agenda.
The Jesuits have a vast network of teaching centers all over the world. They also infiltrate Protestant higher education institutions in order to subvert Protestant beliefs. You name an intellectual movement in mainline seminaries that turned Protestant pastors into liberals and the Jesuits were probably behind it.
The Jesuits were behind the Higher Criticism agenda used to get students to doubt the infallibility of the written word. The Jesuits talked about establishing social justice before Karl Marx even picked up on it. They played a role in Liberation Theology. They founded heretical Preterist Theology. The Jesuits probably even started Masonry and the New Age movement and have played a role in the mysticism within Eastern religions. The Jesuits run a number of observatories and will probably be the first to announce some extraterrestrial contact for some future deception. Jesuits are much of the mystery in Mystery Babylon.
Today, the Jesuits are having great influence in once Evangelical theological seminaries and Bible colleges thanks to the influence they had on Peter Drucker, Richard Foster, C. Peter Wagner and many others. Many of the top leaders in the evangelical movement are now dismissing doctrine and promoting mysticism implanted by Jesuits. That is why spiritual formation techniques with contemplative prayer is now the rage among the New Evangelicals.
The end agenda of the Jesuits is to have a one world ecumenical system that is under the control of the Pope. There is good reason to believe that the Jesuits are behind globalist organizations and ideologies. Those that think world events are being orchestrated by a Masonic conspiracy probably should be looking a layer deeper for the Jesuit connection.
With that background given, let me get back to Pope Francis. As a Jesuit, this Pope is not about to modernize his church to conform to the world or to compromise with real Bible believers. If anything, under his leadership, the Catholic Church will become more mystical and will harp on a gospel of social justice and ecumenical dominionism led by the Vatican.
Pope Francis has already appealed and prayed to Mary since he was elected. He soon could officially make her Co-Redemptrix. That means that she is playing an on-going roll with Jesus to bring about the salvation of the world. That heretical doctrine from this Pope would be appropriate infallible Bull for deception (pun intended).
In any case, I have no doubt that Mary apparitions are going to play an increasing role to help sway people toward their ecumenical end. Expect to hear much more about mystical experiences all over the world and expect to hear messages that have a humanistic gospel of social justice and good works in all messages coming from this church or related demonic apparitions. The social justice theme will play into the United Nations socialist agenda and that plays into the Jesuit agenda of a world theocracy under the Pope.
Rick Warren announced to his followers that he was thrilled with the announcement of his new Jesuit Papa, and why not? With Warren being a member of the CFR and on the board of directors of Tony Blair’s interfaith foundation they are working toward the same ecumenical and globalist end. Many Baptists and other Evangelicals need to take their blinders off about Rick Warren and the Creekers should do likewise with Bill Hybells. Both are highly influenced by Jesuits.
Since the reformation and until more recent Dispensation Theology, most Protestants historically believed that the Pope was the Antichrist. They really had good reason to believe this. The message coming out of the Vatican pays lip service to Christ but their overall message is antichrist. The Roman Church does not believe salvation comes through grace through faith in what Jesus did alone on the cross to pay for all sin.
They add that salvation can only be achieved through obedience to their church and salvation is only possible for those dying without mortal sin. That means that Christians have to stay obedient to the Vatican and stay out of mortal sin or confessed up to a Roman Catholic priest for any chance to escape Hell.
The Catholic Church has decreed many anathemas against Protestants unless they return to being under the authority of the Pope. These damnations can not be rescinded because Popes are infallible. So don’t let people tell you that Roman Catholicism is just another Christian denomination that Christians should unify with so that we can all be one.
Their gospel of works and submission to their Pope will only lead people to Hell. They teach there is no salvation for anyone outside of Roman Catholicism. So don’t think the Roman Church looks at you like brethren. All they want is to put your soul in bondage to their church. Misery loves company.
It really is crazy because most Catholics are living in mortal sin according to their own church doctrine. Those that die in mortal sin go to Hell according to their own doctrine. Therefore, Catholics know that their sins will send them to Hell but they do not care enough to obey their church doctrine. Yet, they still want to identify with Roman Catholicism even through they know they will be going to Hell because they do not obey their infallible decrees?? Who knows, they may get lucky and die in front of a priest and get their mortal sins absolved. Such is the eternal hope of Catholics that actually know Roman Catholic doctrine. Most Roman Catholics do not even know what the Roman church teaches and hardly attend any church functions at all but yet they still like to identify themselves as Roman Catholics and love to idolize priests and the Pope as holy men.
The illogical rational of religious minds just proves man’s total depravity. Roman Catholicism is a perfect example of the clerical blinded leading the lay blind into the pit. And the Jesuits mission is to bind the whole world under the black light of mysticism. No wonder the world turns against the religious Harlot and burns her with fire when some charismatic figure appears on the scene debunking the religious doctrines that held them in bondage.
So, will this Pope turn out to be the Antichrist or False Prophet like some believe? Actually, any Pope is already an antichrist and a false prophet. It goes with the job description. However, if we are talking about the Beast/Antichrist who is also the Son of Perdition that comes out of the pit and his false prophet. I doubt it. This Pope is probably just another imposter.
Maybe as we get further into the reign of this Jesuit Pope while watching him try to lead everyone back to Rome we will see things more clearly. This pope is 76 years old, maybe if this Pope can live another 15-20 years he will turn out to be the last Pope because the real Antichrist and False Prophet will be due on the scene about that time IMHO.
I actually wrote this article to hear what you people think about all this because thanks to the latest Horn conjectures, it appears that this topic is going to be all over Bible Prophecy sites for the next couple of years. If people Google this topic they might as well get the views of the best biblical thinkers. That is where some of you come in.
Don Koenig founded www.thepropheticyears.com website in 1999 after almost thirty years of independent study on the Bible and learning from many astute teachers within Christendom. Don created his website to write about Bible prophecy, biblical discernment and his Christian worldviews. Don wrote a free Revelation commentary ebook in 2004 named "The Revelation of Jesus Christ Through The Ages". The World and Church and Bible Prophecy section of this website was started in 2007. 
Hi Don,
I think Malachy was completely accurate in writing down what the local demonic influence instructed him to write. It’s smoke and mirrors, all designed to do a couple things… To the Catholics, scare them in to staying catholic. To the non Christian, further give the non believing world an excuse to think that “biblical” prophecy is a joke.. (I think many in the world lump Malachy’s work with Biblical work, which we know is not the case). This guy probably is just an imposter designed to continue aiding in the “stage setting”. I personally think the Tribulation needs to start by 2021, but thats just my lay opinion. Also, this guy is 76.. With one lung… I think he will be a short timer.
Interestingly… Even if this guy was “Petrus Romanos”, there are two reasons why he would have chosen a different name, and tried to hide his identity… First, it would freak out all the Catholics, and of course the preppers and Alex Jones types… And 2.. I would have interfered with any agenda “peter” may have… So the guy would keep his mouth shut if he was… Which I don’t believe.
It’s just smoke and mirrors from the father of lies and deception… In my humble opinion…….
Rod in Oregon
“Is Jesuit Pope Francis the Antichrist or the False Prophet?”
His credentials show both to be improbable. He is a religious leader not political and he is of Italian descent (the False Prophet is almost certain to be Jewish although one can never be sure of a man’s lineage). However it is a possibility that he will be the head of the Harlot religion.
Watching the reaction of Roman Catholics over the past hours makes it clear they indulge in open idolatry. I should add that the similarity of behaviour among sports fans just widens its scope. It is becoming increasingly obvious that idolatry is engulfing the world.
Yet even with the increasing darkness there is still the great positive:
Christ has not called his Church home therefore there must be others yet to come unto the light of the gospel.
Under the extremes of satanic idolatry, preaching the gospel will become increasingly dangerous, therefore we who know the truth, we who have experienced the saving power of that Gospel MUST be wise to the world’s evil – and harmless (gentle and thoughtful) in the presentation of that truth.
I have seen many of my Morningstar Ministry type friends saying this Pope is “annointed” I don’t know if Joel Osteen has annointed him as yet. We should know soon.
Yeah Brian,
As they go ecumenical they will marginalize Bible believing Christians and even say that we are a danger to the world. We have had recent American Presidents say as much, along with the likes of Rick Warren.
I agree that the Roman Church is likely to lead the Harlot. The prime example of a spiritual harlot was Israel. She practiced fornication with the nations around her. Likewise, the Harlot of Revelation 17 will fornication with the nations of the world. The Vatican has embassies in many nations of the world and has an advisory seat at the United Nations. When the nations of the world are finished using the Harlot for their pleasure they will burn her with fire.
Wow Don,
Who needs the “Peter The Roman” prophecy when you have the Jesuits ?
I had no idea about Jesuits until just reading your article.
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From your article….
They very much are the secret police of the Pope and have taken oaths to follow any orders from the Pope without question.
The end agenda of the Jesuits is to have a one world ecumenical system that is under the control of the Pope.
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I surely do not know enough about the history of the Jesuits to say much other than they certainly appear to be another cult that has nothing to do with salvation through The Lord Jesus, obviously.
Follow any orders from the Pope without question ? Really ?…didn’t we see that in the Third Reich ?
Money, Power, Corruption seems to be the only traits that these “orders” have going for them.
~David,
What make the Jesuits so effective and dangerous is that they do not care about money or personal power. They are not likely to be corrupted by material things. They are zealots and operate like the Star Trek Borg all working together for the collective agenda which is the establishment of Roman Catholic Dominion Theology everywhere on this planet.
I have not read much about the Jesuits.. But they do sound like the Catholic Version of the Navy Seals. Were the Jesuits the guys who came over with Cortez to the “New World” to spread the word of Catholicism?
Rod
Rod,
I am pretty sure that is correct.
Don,
I am of the belief that “Power and Control” is the core reason behind most evil endeavors since the dawn of humanity….whether we are talking about Cain and Abel, Islam, Catholicism, Most Religions for that matter, The Nazi’s, The Borg, etc.
Money might not be the primary focus of a cult like The Jesuits, however, I’m sure they know that with money, comes the Power and Control they seek.
“The illogical rational of religious minds just proves man’s total depravity.” “No wonder the world turns against the religious Harlot… debunking the religious doctrines that held them in bondage.”
[I'm being facetious here] So, if the pope is infallible, what was he before? Jesus was sinless all of His life. Yet, pope’s die. Let me get this straight, they are infallible but they die due to sinful nature. I guess the sinful nature occured prior to being elected-by-seance as pope, and so the pope dies because he couldn’t overcome his prior sins before he was pope? Who’s on first and I pick up the ball and throw it to naturally because why and I don’t care (Oh, he’s our shortstop).
If I make it to 76, I really don’t need the hassle of being some elected leader anywhere. Did he “throw his hat in the ring”? I wonder if they display the count in roman numerals? Although I think 112 is easy – I wonder if there’s a hidden code in that? Hmmm. That is one seriously messed up organization.
Mankind, without the true light, is almost pitiful to “watch”.
~David
There are religious zealots that actually think they are doing God’s will but are unknowingly working against His will. Saul was a prime example and so are many Jesuits. Jesuits have little interest in money, many take vows of poverty. They are not working to establish their own power and control as you suggest. They think they are doing the will of God by their total obedience to the Pope as the vicar of Christ on earth.
Craig,
You are making presumptions based on a lack of knowledge of what the term “infallibility of the Pope” means to the Roman Catholic Church. When Roman Catholicism declare that their popes are infallible they are only talking about his infallibility when speaking in his official capacity of prophet on matters of Church doctrine. The Papal Bulls.
First of all I am Catholic and I am offended by your statements to my religion and how Catholics live by their Doctrine. There are many Catholics in this world. There are many types of Catholics as well, Traditionalist, Orthodox, Cafeteria (ala cart) and Lapse Catholics. I am a practicing one, Church Sundays, Holy Day, Holidays, Adoration when able (caring for elderly father) and attending stations of the cross. I go to confession every 2 weeks, I am fasting all Fridays on lent and have given up something for lent. Now you know who is speaking to you! I have grown up all my life believing that there was only 3 more Popes till a bad one enters. I follow all the Saints and their Stigmata and visions from Virgin and Holy Trinity. I have researched Jesuits before he was even elected. I have a clear background on Masons and Night Templar’s. I have studied many popes and their Prophecy’s like the Saints. I believe Fatima whole heartily and the 3 secrets. Like Malichi Martin, I believe 4 popes disobeyed the Virgin Mary. I believe Father Oconnor who was to be excommunicated in the 80′s for calling out NWO and the infiltration of the Homosexual group. I believe Bella Dodd being an agent for Communist USA party and sending over 1000 agents into the Monasteries. I believe we had 4 Popes that were Masons like the book Malichi Martin was writing when he mysteriously fell and died before calling out the names in his book. I believe like he said there were 2 sealed envelopes from Fatima’s 3rd secret. One with 67 lines telling the vision that did not support John Paul ll assassination (way off) St. John Basco confirms it with his 157 dreams (visions). I believe the 2nd envelope revealed 25 lines of words of the Virgin Mary Like Malichi Martin has said being he read the message with Pope John XXlll. He was the Vatican exorcist under john XXlll. He also confirms in his book Windswept of a Ritual that took place a week before Paul Vl was set into the seat the enthroned Lucifer by the masonic group on Vatican grounds which is consistent with the St. Cathrine’s vision in the 18th Century …our lady of good success, Google that. I believe the holy spirit does guide them to select the Popes other than the dark ages when kings selected them, they are called anti popes in the Catholic religion. I believe Cardinal siri was selected in 1958 but was threatened by someone, the white smoke blew then 5 minutes later black smoke and then again 24hrs later Pope John XXlll was elected. An ex FBI witnessed this. I believe a few murders happened in the Vatican, one from that very election and another of an appointed lawyer for Father Oconner. I believe the Vatican has been fighting a spiritual war from the beginning of time and is infiltrated by 4 groups. I can name. I believe the war started from the Garden of Eden. Google Pope Leo the Xlll he goes into detail of the battle that is occurring today. The 4 groups that have infiltrated are believers of Lucifer. I believe the Catholic Faith is the True Church but has been under attack by Satan. I have been researching this over a yr. Not to mention my mother spent her life on it. When you have a mother calling out Masons and the banking system for 30 yrs and didn’t listen then till you are living through it. You start to listen! I have much more and all the research to back up my believe. Watch Father Gruener, Kramer, Oconnor and Malichi on youtube. Hear there speeches from the pulpit, conferences and radio talk shows. Your eyes will see the Catholic faith and whole different light. Don’t forget Pope Leo Xlll his message is VERY important. Read Geniesis 6-9, Book of Daniel and Book of Enoch (only 1). God Bless!
Having been raised a Catholic,I can affirm it is even more strange than you say. It is a manifold elastic system of compromise.I will give one example. If a Protestant commits a mortal sin he can be forgiven,but only if He makes a perfect Act of Contrition,which is hard for even a Catholic to do.But then the Protestant would not even know what that means.They also have the doctrine of invincible ignorence.And their doctrine of Transubstantiation is so absurd,I won’t go into it.They pray to Mary who is not omnipresent,but she hears their prayers anyway.As to the Jesuits,they destroyed the Janesists,who were followers of Augustine.Very strange Churh.Almost as crazy as the Mormons.
Lynda,
Linda I grew up and was educated under Roman Catholicism I know more about it then 95 percent of Catholics. All the things you say you do will never save your soul. You cannot save yourself through what you do. Salvation only comes by what Jesus did for us.
You believe a lot of things that you really cannot really prove. Quoting mystics and Alex Jones types are not proof. Obviously you believe there is a lot of evil in the Roman Catholic Church, and there is, so why would you want to submit to such a system? A house divided cannot stand.
All that is required for Salvation is believing that Jesus died according to the scriptures, paid for sin according to the scriptures and that God rose Him from the dead according to scriptures and all that trust in Jesus for their salvation will be born of the Spirit into new life.
Then all instruction needed for living out your new life in the body of Christ is found in the Bible. You don’t need to submit to what you admit is a demonically infiltrated system to be a Christian. Trying to figure out such a convoluted system is insanity.
Get rid of all that baggage. The salvation message is very simple you cannot be acceptable to God by anything that you do and that includes everything that you mentioned. You are acceptable to God if you believe in God’s righteousness to save. Jesus was God’s salvation. Trust in Him and you will be saved.
First of all, Catholics aren’t Sola Scriptura Don. BTW since everything you believe is in the Scriptures can you please give me the Chapter and verse of where only scripture is the word? I don’t think you will have a leg to stand on with that. You are missing the beauty of a full church Don. 2. The Catholic faith whole heartily believes Jesus Christ our Lord is our savior, that’s a given in our Faith we don’t need to be told this nor do we need to be Re dunked! We were all baptized with the Holy Spirit from the get go Don. We don’t need to be “reborn” Born again because that Scripture is SO misinterpreted it’s a crime. It means when you open your heart and allow the Holy Spirit into your heart and life, you will be reborn. Like St. Paul on the road to Damascus! When he takes hold of you, you will not know what hit you over the head! I know this because I am living it NOW. I am a Catholic that has been reborn and I did not need to be Baptized 2x. You cannot be reborn till you open your heart and Submit to God all your free will so you can do his will. Only then will the scales fall from your eyes.
When I first heard the “Malachy Prophecy” I thought wow,that’s exciting! As I learned more I grew suspicious. Ultimately I came to the position that since it isn’t in God’s Word then it’s not something I will give much credibility to. (Should have come to that conclusion first)! The only thing that gives me pause is its timing with these last days.
I have heard it said that satanic prophecies have just enough truth to appeal to the gullible and preppers. OK, I threw the preppers part in.
As for Jesuits, I have heard of them but was completely clueless as to their history and goals. I thought they were something like monks…living in monasteries! So thanks for the input on that, Don. I guess I should get out more.
So, is this guy the last pope? It’s like wanting to know who the antichrist is. Yeah, I am curious but who I am really, really looking for is my REDEEMER!
Don,
Not having been Catholic myself, I certainly am no authority. But what you have said is true. If rituals were all we needed for salvation.. Then Jesus didn’t have to die and be resurrected.
I like what John said… False prophecies usually contain just enough grains of truth to seem believable, but are really only going to deceive and lead people astray. It is interesting that all of this Pope stuff is happening as we are headed into end times events. While not setting dates in any way.. I am thinking the Tribulation has to start by 2021.. Probably wishful thinking…
Rod in Oregon
Lynda,
You are taking this post off topic so don’t bother answering with even more of your aberrant theology. I suggest you read my commenting policy if you want your comments posted. Most of your many comments have not been posted for that reason. I am not going to sit here all day dialoguing with you about Catholicism.
Your suggestion that because there is no chapter and verse for Sola Scriptura that it is false is ridiculous. There is no chapter and verse on the Trinity either but both Catholics and Protestants believe it. Jesus Himself used scripture as the authority for what he did even through He heard directly from the Father. What there is no suggestion of in scripture, is a clerical priesthood and Popes who think they are infallible.
If you really want some scriptural arguments for Sola Scriptura. Read this link.
http://www.equip.org/articles/a-defense-of-sola-scriptura/
If you believe Jesus is your Savior why do you believe He is going to let so many of you go to Hell if you do not follow the teaching of your admittedly demonically infiltrated church? Obviously then, it is not your Catholic beliefs that save you, it is trusting in Jesus alone. Yet, your church says those claiming to trust in the Savior will still go to Hell if they do obey the Papal Bulls? So in the final analysis your Popes condemn most Catholics to Hell.
How does one get baptized with the Holy Spirit from the get go? Where is that found in scripture or even in Catholic doctrine? That is about the most ignorant statement I ever heard from someone claiming to be saved.
How do you open your heart and let the Holy Spirit in when your dead in sin and when does that happen? I thought you had to hear the gospel and believe in Jesus for that to happen, but your saying you can just open your own heart and let the Holy Spirit in. So, if you could just open your heart and let the Holy Spirit in what do you even need a Savior for?
Paul was chosen by Jesus to be an apostle, he did not open his heart and let the Holy Spirit in. He did not received the Holy Spirit until Ananias laid hands on him.
Most Catholics were not even baptized once, so I do not know why you are harping on some second baptism. Infants cannot believe and be saved, that is not baptism. Water baptism never saved anyone anyway. Jesus does the baptizing into His Spiritual Body.
Like all in religion you have it all backward. You think something that you do will save you rather than what Jesus has already done for you. All you need to do is accept what I already told you in my last comment. However, if you think that you are getting in by something that you do because you are so Catholic or spiritual you will never make it.
I have given you the truth, do what you will with that information. I hate trying to explain the way of salvation to religious people, they are the most unteachable beings on this planet. This article might help by some chance that you are an exception.
http://www.thepropheticyears.com/comments/How%20one%20is%20saved.htm
I too was raised Catholic and came out of the dark in my twenties. I went to a non denomination church one day with a friend and finally found out who Jesus Christ was. Going to a Catholic church, I never learned a thing. I am not entirely well versed in the bible, but I do know that so much of the the things Catholics do are not biblical at all. It doesn’t say in the bible that you have to eat fish on Fridays, it doesn’t say you have to sacrifice for Lent, it doesn’t say priests can’t marry. In fact they used to marry and should again, there wouldn’t be the pedophile problem if they were allowed to marry. And you can believe the whole pedophile thing isn’t over. I think so much of these practices are about nothing but control. It does say in the bible to not let the ways of man get in the way of Jesus. In other words, all these things that people do, become more important than Christ himself. It gives them a feeling of self righteousness to be able to say “I’ve given this or that up for Lent, etc”. A feeling of pride if you will. I also never understood all the prayers to Mary and various saints. They actually pray more to them, than Jesus Christ I think, at least that’s how I remember it. I don’t know if this pope is the last pope. I’m sure there was more than age that caused Benedict to resign, but but we’ll never know. I personally find the hero worship of the pope rather disgusting. He is a man, nothing more. A man with a lot of power, but that’s it. He is not a direct descendent of Peter as I’ve heard some Catholics tell me. He absolutely is NOT! It will be interesting to see how all this plays out. Deception is alive and well.
I was brought up Catholic, went to Catholic school early on, and was surrounded by those who are Catholic. Early on, thankfully, disillusionment became apparent to me, along with various other evil environmental factors, that I was able to escape any lasting ill effects. I found truth and the Lord and accepted salvation and became a temple of the Holy Spirit on my own life’s walk. I am living on this earth, resisting evil, as an alian, with the light shining, guided by the Holy Spirit (not of my own accord, but elected – thankfully). I voluntarily obeyed baptism (a second time) when I was aware of the truth (vice the first time when I was too young to know good and evil).
The solution to all of this religion nonsense is quite simple — read the bible. That’s really all there is to it. I am exposed to numerous Catholics and they will avoid reading, let alone studying, the bible like it is the plague. As Don said, Catholics and religion types are “unteachable”; I am not going to waste my time or breath throwing “pearls before swine”. Revelation even states that this prophecy / prophetic book won’t change minds / hearts:
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
“Religion that is pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world”. Whether this is in or out of context, I cannot say – but that is a scripture that I have internalized.
Apologize if I’ve furthered the off-topic sub-thread. Yes, I do admit I have a lack of knowledge on in-depth knowledge of Catholicism, for which I am completely thankful — otherwise, I might have been brainwashed and missed the true message of salvation. I don’t quite fully understand some of the advanced Catholicism topics, but that is not my ministry.
Don – I really do appreciate your ministry and correction. We keep you and this ministry in our prayers.
Don,
Not to stray off topic… But it was the “religious” that Jesus had the biggest problem with.. As the Pharisees used religion to hide their hypocrisy and to control… So do many of the religious today… It always comes back to human kind trying to find any possible way to be saved other than Jesus. Just more lies from satan… There is but one way.. Praying to Peter, Paul, or Mary will not get you saved… Or an autographed album….
Just my 2 cents…
Rod in Oregon
As a former Catholic as well I struggled for years with Mary whorship. One day I read Luke chapter 1, where Jesus’s bith is fortold. Mary is called the immaculate conception, born without original sin, but yet she states in verse 46 “I rejoice in God my Savior” if Mary was born without sin then why did she require a Savior. You are completely correct Don, keep your eyes on Jesus. People have to find that personal realtionship with Him or else as you just said we just have a religion. The Gospel is not complicated or confusing it all about Jesus and his love for Man.
Wayne,
Mary also offered a sin offering if you check into why she brought two doves to the Temple in Luke 2:22. So obviously Mary was not without sin.
Thanks for that Don, it does say that. I would tell Lynda to read John Chapter 14, where Thomas asked how do we know the way, and Jesus Said ” I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT THROUGH ME”. Not Mary, not Paul, not Joseph Smith but through Jesus. It is also interesting that in the Acts, Paul is continually fighting against the Jews in regards to going back to their old religion through the law, which is why Jesus came in the first place, to replace with his death on the cross.
One more thing to add and that will be it, 1 Tim 2:5 “There is one intercessor between God and Man, the man Christ Jesus”. One day we will all have to face our Lord, we will not able to blame anyone for our mistakes, so you can’t blame the church or anyone else, we all have been given a free will, use it to find the True God.
Our sin natures are inherited from our fathers. Jesus didn’t have a human father so He didn’t have a sin nature. Mary did. I’ve been told by a catholic relative, a man with a doctorate who is a professor at a franciscan university, that if I’m “arguing with a catholic not to assume that the bible is the final authority. We have other writings we go by.” What can I say after that? It closed all future discussions. Is pope Francis The antichrist or false prophet? With my knowledge of prophecy I vote no. I lean toward believing the false prophet will be jewish and the antichrist will only worship himself.
Don,
It appears the only support for Catholic belief lay in.. Well.. Extra Biblical works. But if Catholics are going to accept “catholicism”, then they might as well go back to the indulgences system…
Wayne,
It’s a frustrating thing to have your entire theological position on “Mary as intercessor” dismantled by one verse… Glad I’m not Catholic…
Rod in Oregon
Don,
It appears to me that most of the time, the majority of people out there are “cut and paste” debators. They respond not by their own research and reasoning, they just cut and paste someone else’s works… And really do not understand what they are copying and pasting…
Rod in Oregon
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A JESUITS OATH ; You will then give and receive with him the following questions and answers:-”
So he is Peter the Roman anyway !!!!!!!!!
Question:- From whither do you come?
Answer:- The Holy faith.
Q.:- Whom do you serve?
A.:- The Holy Father at Rome, the Pope, and the Roman Catholic Church Universal throughout the world.
Q.:- Who commands you?
A.:- The Successor of St. Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Society of Jesus or the Soldiers of Jesus Christ.
Q.:- Who received you?
A.:- A venerable man in white hair.
Q.:- How?
A.:- With a naked dagger, I kneeling upon the cross beneath the banners of the Pope and of our sacred order.
Q.:- Did you take an oath?
A.:- I did, to destroy heretics and their governments and rulers, and to spare neither age, sex nor condition. To be as a corpse without any opinion or will of my own, but to implicitly obey my Superiors in all things without hesitation of murmuring.
Q.:- Will you do that?
A.:- I will.
Q.:- How do you travel?
A.:- IN THE BARK OF PETER THE FISHERMAN
Q.:- Whither do you travel?
A.:- To the four quarters of the globe.
Q.:- For what purpose?
A.:- To obey the orders of my general and Superiors and execute the will of the Pope and faithfully fulfill the conditions of my oaths.
Q.:- Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated.”
Read more: http://ideas.time.com/2013/03/15/what-it-means-to-have-a-jesuit-pope/#ixzz2NkMSOXqI
The Catholic church fits exactly, the description of Mystery Babylon. It has murdered more true believers and Jews than any other organization and has been married to nations, kings and rulers through the dark ages. The office of the Pope is anti-christ, as the pontiff’s call themselves Vicarious Christi, meaning in place of Christ. The Pope could be the False Prophet over the world wide religion to come, the whole goal is to get everyone under the Roman umbrella, as long as you don’t take the bible literally, anything else (mysticism, Buddha, eastern idolatries,) pretty much goes.
I think that the new pope, being of Italian extraction and taking the name of Francis (middle name Peter) is more than enough to fulfil Malachy’s prophecy. It’s more evidence than some of the previous popes had. The trouble is, we probably shouldn’t put much if any stock in it. It is interesting to watch at any rate. His age is a factor, I thought the new pope might end up being a little younger.
I agree with you Don that being from the Jesuit order is the most problamatic aspect. In my understanding as well, this order was established to counter the Protestant Reformation. His tendancy towards humble living and the poor will draw millions to him as they all attempt to make this world a better and more comfortable place to live through social justice. It is all coming together, more stage setting. This pope will only be allowed to do what the Almighty allows him to do. I think I’ll keep watching for my Savior. Maranatha
Hi Rod,
I agree, and because they can cut and paste they think that makes them theological experts or agents of God spreading some theology. You can usually tell the cut and paste people by the formatting, the length and the endless comments. There are people cruising the Internet that are on some crusade to spread usually aberrant doctrine. Many of those do not get posted.
LOL.. Thanks for the confidence..
I have had to learn how to sift through research and information to determine how reliable it is. Cut and pasters are pretty easy to spot.
Rod
Is it significant that he is a Jesuit?
Will he figure in the falklands dispute?
Bill,
Yes and probably no
It seems many Catholics have a tie that binds them to their religion which is greater than love and allegiance to Jesus Christ.
Lynda might throw a spanner through her computer screen at the mention of Martin Luther but he, a Roman Catholic, knew enough of Scripture and of his own nature to know he was not reconciled to God by the constant and traumatising penance required by his religion.
Luther was delivered by a verse from the Bible, “The just shall live by faith” Romans 1:17
The truth of this verse is that those who have been justified through faith in Christ will also live their life “by faith” in him and not in obedience to any religion.
It would appear from Luther’s experience that he was a believer in God, tied up in spiritual and psychological knots by the dogma of his religion but delivered by that still small voice of Scripture. Hopefully there will be many more.
Don,
Interesting blog! I see some mention of the Blessed Mother here. I see you were once a practicing Catholic. Question, do you/Protestants believe in the Immaculate Conception?
Frank,
Many protestants don’t even believe that infants have original sin. Having said that, I want people to get back on the post topic or their comments will not be posted. That is why I deleted many comments from yesterday including some of my own. Unfortunately we have been getting more into Roman Catholicism rather than the Jesuits or the Pope. I know that some of that goes with the territory but nobody is going to settle all the points of differences between Protestantism and Roman Catholicism on a comment section of a post and this post is not about all the Protestant and Catholic disagreements. If it is related to the post topic it is appropriate, otherwise it is not.
Speaking of the Jesuits… Historically, weren’t they the equivalent of the “special forces” within the Catholic church?
Rod
How is this off subject? You brought up the fact that Pope Francis has already appealed and prayed to Mary possibly making her Co-Redemptive and being heretical doctrine from this Pope would be appropriate infallible Bull. (see your quote below).
You/Protestants don’t believe the Blessed Virgin has a hierarchy? Based on your response, I would think you don’t believe Mary is the Immaculata.
“Pope Francis has already appealed and “PRAYED TO MARY” since he was elected. He soon could officially make her Co-Redemptrix. That means that she is playing an on-going roll with Jesus to bring about the salvation of the world. That heretical doctrine from this Pope would be appropriate infallible Bull for deception (pun intended).”
Frank,
I was not saying that you were specifically off topic. I am sorry if you took it that way. You just gave me the first opening to bring that point up since I deleted 15 comments from yesterday that were a distracting rabbit trail. I was really saying that much of the comment section of this post was off topic.
If people will read my commenting policy they should get the drift that keeping the comments on the post topic is my number one rule. If I cannot keep post comments on topic I see little reason to allow any comments on my articles at all. I do allow brief exceptions at my own discretion but generally people are only allowed to stray from that rule on my monthly perspectives posts. That is also one reason why I monitor all comments.
As to your question, it has already been mentioned by Wayne and myself that Mary had sin in her life. There are other scriptures to back up that all have sinned without exception (other than Jesus). There is even scripture that suggests that Mary and His brothers (Yes, according to scripture Jesus had brothers) did not even believe Jesus was in His right mind in part of His ministry. The Judgment seat of Christ has not taken place yet. So no rewards have been handed out. That means that Mary awaits that day like every other believer.
That is as far as I am going down this Mary trail, if you do not believe what I told you, you are free to go elsewhere. The vast majority of Protestants do not see any influencing role or honor given for any dead soul before the First Resurrection and Judgment seat of Christ. Only then will rewards for what we did in our natural body after conversion take place.
I don’t expect Catholics to believe what I say because they mix Catholic doctrine with scripture. I do not. Even so, this post is not about convincing Catholics. It is to inform Christian believers about what may be coming through Jesuit Roman Catholic deception.
There is only one Redeemer of mankind and one intercessor between God and man and He is Christ Jesus.
Rod,
The evidence is overwhelming. The links in the article give the agenda and the history.
Hi Don. It seems to me that this is just another step towards isolation of the true believers. As I was reading the comments I kept thinking of Col 2:8. As Paul uses the word BEWARE to begin his statement it rings clear to me that we should heed his advice. It not only describes the Catholic church but many protestants as well. My prayer is that mercy and truth will enlighten your readers through the Holy Spirit. We can argue these things over and over but only Jesus can change the hearts of man. As we get closer to our Lords coming we will experience what 2Tim 3:12-13 really means.
Don,
I have much more to say on the subject of the Blessed Virgin but will leave it at that. I do not agree with much of what you say on the subject but, I do respect your opinions and believe’s.
God Bless
I have been watching the Pope Francis election with interest and was astounded to learn that he was a Jesuit. It appears to be something of a coup for the order to have a Jesuit pope, but then also a little confusing. If their whole agenda is (to quote Monty Python) an almost fanatical devotion to the pope, then having the pope as one of their own would surely create confusion (?). I also wonder that if they have always been politically active and powerful, why have they not installed one of their own in the papacy before now? The timing is very interesting, and also raises a lot of questions. This is surely no conventional appointment for many reasons.
I couldn’t help but notice the timing of the announcement of his election on the 13th of the 3rd month of 2013. If you add up the numbers 1,3,3,2,1,and 3 they all add up to 13, and Francis, age of 76 also adds up to 13. Then there was the lightning bolt on the vatican etc. All of this symbology may just be the mind wanting to make something out of nothing, but then nothing is coincidence when it comes to the Vatican, they have always had an agenda for world domination, the last few popes making public statements about their desire for a World Government, and one papal contender even saying that it was every Christian’s duty to be loyal to a central world government. It is all chugging along very nicely thankyou.
If nothing else, this appointment proves to me that our time now is short. Another 20-25 years? If this is so, Jesus return will be in my lifetime. My children are now young adults and they would like to have careers and families of their own, of course I would love grandchildren, but in these last few weeks we have been discussing world events and have all felt very strongly that our task in these last days is to be drawing even closer to God, to know his will for our lives, and to be sober, vigilant and redeem the time, as every day now brings us closer to the finale.
I pray that you will all know the will of God for your own lives, and be kept by his grace and power so that you will all endure until his return.
God bless.
Don,
I am amazed at how fervently people cling to non Biblical beliefs.. I liked Annes response.. All of these “coincidences” are interesting to watch. Also of interest.. A seagul landed on the chimney just before the white smoke came out announcing a pope has been chosen. The seagul being an unclean animal in the Old Testament. It does appear that this choice of pope is an interesting one.
It also appears that more and more, people are relying on the interpretation of “other people” when it comes to the Bible. That, or the internet… The stage is certainly set for mass deception as critical thinking skills are lacking.
Rod
Wow! I read the article you cited above.. I had not realized that the “emerging church”, and “social gospel” fits in with the Jesuit agenda in this manner.. But it does make sense. It is all about the tangible, mystical acceptance of anything but true, total dependence upon Jesus.
As far as the protestant church goes.. It is almost like the war in Vietnam… You really can’t tell who is, and who is not the enemy… sitting in the pew with you can be someone who has absolutely no relationship with Jesus.. But certainly claims to have one.
This deception is certainly widespread…
Rod
I liked the article for the most part.
What I see most of in reading the comments are christians bashing christians. Only The Lord Jesus can save and only he can judge hearts.
This is the problem with christians, they feel the need to judge other christians that are a different denomination.. but Are we not all Christian? Can we not see what we are doing to Christ? Ye Blind leading the blind, ye men of little faith!
No wonder we have lost respect of others in the world . WE Christians can’t even get along.
We as christians need to stand together under The Father, Son and Holy Spirit .
Christian = Belief in Jesus, the gift of his life for us.
All~4~Him,
Not all that claim to be Christians are in the Body of Christ. Do not confuse Christian identity or institutions that claim to speak for Christianity with true Christianity. Christianity is a birth into the Body of Christ through belief in the Savior that God sent to pay for our sins.
We also are not judging the salvation of individuals withing Roman Catholicism. Only God knows who really believes. However, the heart of man is deceitfully wicked according to scripture (Jer 17:9), so what people believe in their hearts will not save them unless they believe that salvation comes through Jesus alone (not following institutional doctrines of their denomination and not through Mary or contemplating the Jesus made up in their own mind). It is obvious by what some in religion say and do that they do not really believe in the biblical Jesus.
I am afraid that the Church is tasked with sorting out truth by comparing dogma to what scripture actually says. That is not Christians bashing Christians. Truth bashing damnable heresies is not Christian bashing. If we just let people go to Hell without telling them the truth their blood will be upon us. We must contend for the faith that was once delivered unto the Saints (Jude 1:3). The passage says was once delivered, notice that it does not say it will be will be delivered by future infallible Popes.
I think I have already mentioned that many of the doctrines of the Roman Catholic church are antichrist so there can be no unity upon a false gospel that leads people to Hell even if some people want to believe that all mentioning the name of Jesus are Christians. Jesus says otherwise:
According to 4 him.. I guess the letters from the Apostles should have never been written.. They should have just let all the first century Christians just adopt whatever opinion they wanted about Jesus, and not correct them… lest they be “bashing”, and “judgmental”… Truth is truth.. Andy any dogma or theology that takes away from the supremacy of Jesus is a lie… A lie that is taking people to hell.. And another thing.. When did we get so squeamish about telling people that without Jesus, they are going to hell! That is not bashing.. That is truth outlined by Scripture. I guess Jesus was bashing when he mentioned hell more times that he mentions heaven.. Or when he said that the Narrow Gate was the way, and few shall find it. This emergent feel good emotional kumbaya singing phony gospel is taking people to hell….
Additionally… Were not talking about minor theological differences like “did Adam have a belly button”.. We are talking about serious theological matters that need to be taken with the level urgency deserved… Those who do not understand the seriousness, need to get better informed.
Sorry Don… I just had to get that off my chest… It may be off topic, and not get posted.. And that is ok, I wont be offended..
This was a great thread by the way.
Rod
Don, this has been a most interesting topic, I can see your zeal for Christ by some of your comments. I also notice that your answers are soley based on scripture, this is good. Scripture constantly warns us from start to finish to beware of false prophets, who use the name of Christ. It also states that they way to destruction is wide and many their are that go by it’s way, but the road to salvation is narrow and few their are that find it. Scarry isn’t it.
Yes truth is truth, the only way to the Father is through the Son. Too many have forgotten His love for all.
Heaven is real, but so is hell.
When One professes Christ as Lord and savior
That He lived and died for their sins, They live their life Following the 10 commandments,
yet is Luthern or Babtist.(protastant) … Eastern Orthodox or Catholic that name is not what saves them, it is only Christ.
The faith in him, his love and mercy is my simple faith, and what will get us thru these dark days
coming.
Just my humble opinion.
All 4 Him,
Yes, that is true, but the topic of this post is the Jesuits and the role of this supposedly last Pope.
If anyone is looking to get more info on this topic, you can get the book by Dave Hunt “A Woman Rides the Beast”. In my humble opinion, it gives a good history of the catholic church and of the popes. It also deals with the jesuits in detail. It reads like a textbook though. Don, have you read this book?
Adam,
Yes I have read it. It is a very well documented book. I highly recommend it. It is one of Dave Hunts greatest works.
The history of the Roman Church in “Petrus Romanus” by Tom Horn and Chris Putinam is also very good. However, their book brings in a lot of pagan conjecture and mysticism that I do not recommend. I did a write up on that book last June. People should read my article or the book to understand why there is all this speculation about this Pope.
http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/petrus-romanus-an-exercise-in-finding-the-future-in-the-demonic.html
It’s interesting to share, (in the context of his forum ) about the unfolding of short term global prophecies by Maria Divine Mercy at http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/ in time and space such as the Spain earthquake, Volcanoes, assassination of Gaddafi (as I have personally confirmed with the visionary months before the event) and also about the forced departure of Pope Benedict XVI to happen much before the Warning event). The latest prophecy is about a false prophet taking over the seat of Vatican if it turns out to be true especially if the Holy Eucharist is compromised I think the clergy should take those Crusade and Litany prayers (over 100 Nos) seriously
This post by Alb is posted to show what some Roman Catholics are expecting just from the prophecies of just one Catholic mystic. There are many. Therefore, you should see that many in the Roman Catholic Church have already been set up to receive the signs and messages that I said will come to deceive many that believe these extra biblical revelations.
Some serious stuff going on out there… It’s getting difficult to keep up…
Thanks Don
Rod
They teach there is no salvation for anyone outside of Roman Catholicism?
That is not true.
The Catholic Church teaches that salvation comes through Jesus Christ, and that the prayers of the faithful will help guide all to the Salvation of Christ.
The scripture in 1Cor. 4:6 that exhorts us “not to go beyond what is written,” comes to mind. The Lord has revealed to us, through the canon of His word, what we need to know for today and every day. But what a temptation it is to go after the titillating, which tends to puff up.
The Mayan calendar turned out to be a fluke, so here comes the next bit of extra biblical excitement. Thanks for the great article, Don, it sure has created some very interesting conversations and has revealed how the enemy uses “religion” and the doctrines of men to blind people from the simple truth of the gospel.
Mark,
That may be what they tell people but like usual the Devil is in the details. For example, in their infallible doctrine they say:
That statement means anyone that does not submit to the Pope is under damnation.
So when they are saying that prayers of the faithful will help guide all to the Salvation of Christ. They are talking about the faithful Roman Catholic’s prayers converting the world. They are not saying that people that will not submit to the Pope can be saved. There are at least 100 such infallible damnations against those that will not submit to the Pope, if I recall correctly.
By the way, even what you said is heretical. The prayers of the saints do not guide all to the Salvation of Christ. First of all, the scripture is clear and even Roman Catholic doctrine says that not all will be saved, and second, it is the sovereign work of the Holy Spirit that draws people to Christ not the prayers of the faithful. Only those given to Jesus Christ by the Father can be saved.
The Church plays no role in salvation of others, other than giving the gospel to the world. People must still hear, believe and repent from their own ways and turn to God’s Savior by faith.
Now you may want to claim that people that have no knowledge of submitting to the Pope can be saved. That of course is true, but then they really do not know Roman Catholic doctrine and really should not be labeled Roman Catholics. We might just call them Christians that gather at a denominational building, or no building at all.
What myammi said about maybe this all being just another Mayan prophecy type of thing has a definite ring of truth. I mentioned earlier that I only really trust prophecy in the Bible. That’s not to say that I am blind to what is happening in the world. All this stuff is somewhat like circumstantial evidence that might be brought out in a trial. One or two evidences might not convict someone but get enough and you’ll hang ‘em. Never in my life do I recall so much happening in the world that either obliquely or directly seem to fit what God’s Word says about the nearness of “the time of the end”. Mayan prophecies, papal prophecies, middle east problems, UFO’S, weather patterns, earthquakes, apostate churches…the list goes on. Now everyone is jumping on the next “big thing”. So what is a Christian to make of all this? Oddly, I find at least for myself, these topics energize me and I get more resolve to understand the REAL prophecies and how they relate to these times.
Which by the way leads me to ask your opinion of an article on Rapture Ready (if it’s of any interest to you and you have the time). It’s titled “Stuff Just Got Serious!” by Donna Wasson. It’s about the new Pope, his Jesuit background and the role Jesuits may be playing today. I don’t know much about her except she is a regular poster on the RR site. Not knowing anything about Jesuits I can’t say how much, if any, is true. She comes across a bit like some conspiracy type and I’m not quite sure what to do with it. It was a pretty fascinating article, I’ll give her that. I just don’t want to get too carried away with all this papal stuff. Just some more circumstantial evidence? Here’s a link for those interested: http://raptureready.com/soap/wasson93.html
John,
I read RR quite a bit. They have some good stuff. Donna is pretty on target. She gets a bit direct and can come acrossed as a bit harsh at times. But she is pretty theologically sound. I find her direct approach refreshing after the lukewarm Oprah-ized feel good touchy feeling kiss the world’s rear end approach that we have seen for the last 20 years…
Rod
John,
I read the link it started off good but then it went into a lot of conjecture.
I would agree that the Jesuits are now the major force bringing the one world agenda upon the earth. However, I think the article is about 60 percent true, 30 percent conjecture and 10 percent total BS from someone that thinks she has total knowledge about the inner workings of all satanic groups. And apparently she also knows the mind of Satan and what God is going to allow in His own sovereignty and when. It is not going to work out quite like she thinks, but I see no point in trying to get into the conjecture points.
If we go beyond history and then advance into fictional conjectures and if we go beyond what the scriptures say into our own version of the end times, even those that say they see are themselves being deceived.
The Jesuits have influence in all world ideologies, so no matter how world events actually turn out they continue to advance the prime directive. That prime directive is the Roman Catholic Church ruling the world. How they get there is through the dietetic process of thesis and antitheses. Like Chess, they cannot know all their future moves until they see how the last move affected that game plan. So obviously an outside observer is not going to have all their moves figured out in advance either.
I often thought if the RCC would like nothing more that to bring about another neo-Holy Roman Empire. Is it not global domination that more powful rulers seek; i.e. Communist, Islam ….?
Seems our early presidents and Founding Fathers also had some concerns about the Jesuits and the RCC. Don’t quite get the connection to the assassination of Lincoln. Except for his defending a priest who dared to speak against a bishop.
Not sure about the web link, so you’re on your own on the link, unless Don has some input.
The Jesuit Connection to the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln
http://www.truthontheweb.org/abe.htm
AnnS,
I have nothing to say about speculative hits by the Jesuits on Lincoln, JFK, or Pope John Paul I, etc., because God does not brief me on these matters. On the other hand, the wretched means of Jesuits in the past is a matter of historical record.
I find this site to be interesting. Pope Francis is the 6th pope in my lifetime and every one of them have been accused of being the anti-Christ. Than the Pope dies and the anti Christ thing starts over with the new pope and on and on. Actually us humans have no idea who the anti christ is-and I’m sure it won t be a pope–not with the repetition of the anti -Christ thing with each pope. The pope is mearly the leader of the largest christian denomination in the world–a billion and 1/3 Christians in this faith. Seems many don t understand the RCC so there is a fear of what they don t understand. I am not Catholic but I have many Catholic-Christian brothers and sisters in christ–We all believe in Jesus as the son of God -just that simple. There are many doctrine issues between Christian churches, but we still have the same God. Doctrine in any church is mostly man made-just our interpation of how worship and bliefes should be and no one is all right or all wrong. So, seems after going through a number of popes who died before they could be the anti-Christ-it is time to move past that nonsense and stand together with our brothers and sisters. Divide and conquor was very successful in bringing down nations and that concept is being used by those who wish to destroy the christian faith–that should not be allowed ot happen if we stand united. thank you and God bless you good souls—
Scott,
Your problem is that you do not know what the Roman Catholic Church adds to Christian doctrine to make it an antichrist religion. Christ came to lead people to salvation. The Roman Catholic Church leads people to Hell. I was a devote Roman Catholic, so I know what they teach, obviously you admit that you do not.
Just because the Catholics you know say they believe in The Son of God does not mean much if their Jesus does not offer any way to salvation except through their own religiosity. I can say I believe in Allah but Allah is not the God of the Bible. How do I know? Because the teaching said to come from Allah contradicts what God said in the Bible. How do I know that Catholics have a different Jesus? Because their claims of How He saves sinners contradicts what the Bible says.
I can say I believe in the great tooth fairy that puts quarters under my pillow if I stay on the yellow brick road to the wizard but unless there are such beings my faith is just in a made up fantasy, it is in vain.
The problems with Catholics is that they do not trust in Jesus for there salvation, they trust in a gospel not given that has a different Jesus that tells the Pope to put traps in the way of people trying to find the free gift of salvation. The Jesus of the Pope has a different gospel, because the Popes have a different Jesus. Their God even needs a human mother interceding to save the world. This is not the gospel once given through which people must be saved. Is is a false gospel that if people believe leads them into condemnation.
So don’t tell me that Catholicism is true Christianity and don’t tell me that doctrine of real Christians is mostly man-made. If that were true nobody would be saved. Correct doctrine about salvation is what the scripture teaches about salvation. And if that doctrine is false it is heresy. The Catholic Church is into many damnable heresies. These are matters of life and death to the soul, they are not secondary issues. The Roman Catholic Church is the Harlot of Revelation 17. Read her wretched history. This is not Christianity, it is a perverse counterfeit.
Having said that, some Protestant denominations are just as far off but they are not true Christianity either. Christianity is a personal relationship with the Creator of the universe through a spiritual rebirth, it is not a religion that just identifies with the name.
True Christians cannot unite with Harlots just so everyone can say they are one. It was the heresy in the Roman Church that caused the split and if they do not repent of their heresy there can be no unity. If Satan has infiltrated the Roman Church, and we Christian unite with them, just who are we suppose to stand united against?? The real Jesus?
There are several words that the socialist media have taken and abused; gay is one of them but that is so false it is almost laughable, but there are others with far more subtle and destructive changes.
Conservative has been changed to non-progressive – backward; fundamentalist to fanatic – terrorist; with the word doctrine, especially regarding the Bible as rigid – inflexible – then on to critical – unloving. This meaning has been eagerly accepted by ignorant Christians, for it excuses their lazy attitude to the Bible and leaves them free to follow their own lusts.
If these professing Christians would busy themselves with Jesus Christ they would at least study the New Testament to see who he really is and what he taught, not what their particular Wolf (Pastor Priest Bishop Pope) wants them to believe.
Bible believing Christians are hated in this the Devil’s world because of their stand regarding God’s Word. That word is an indictment on all who prefer their own opinions rather than God’s; those who prefer self-righteousness rather than what God SAYS is right.
@Scott, I understand people like you, it seems, who are motivated by mercy. But, mercy without knowledge can’t even be called loving, and I’m sure you think your eccumenical attitude is just that. But love that doesn’t warn about false teaching, stumbling blocks, or the traditions of men, and allows a fellow man, woman or child to continue on their way to hell, can not be called love.
Even the demons believe in Jesus, and they tremble because of the coming judgment that has been appointed for them. I would humbly suggest that you spend more time in the word of God so that you can truly know & recognize the genuine gosple. Then when a counterfeit gospel with it’s counterfeit Christ comes along you will immediately recognize it to be false. Don is exactly right that true Christians can not unite with harlots. We are to “come out from among them” and be holy.
Just a thought about the Pope’s chosen name Francis. It’s said to be in recognition of Francis of Assisi who it would appear this man is apparently emulating. There is another Francis though in the early history of the Jesuits – Francis Borgia, a relative of Pope Alexander VI, King Ferdinand of Aragon, and Emperor Charles V. I wonder if there is a connection and whether it would be of any significance? Not that it really matters anyway!
Hi Dave,
There is probably a duel purpose here. He can claim to be a man of the people like Assisi but also honor the Jesuit Borgia.
I see the Jesuit Pope Francis I has already started the Ecumenical push with one of christianities greatist enemies, Islam.
Pope Francis calls for intensified dialogue with Muslims
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/03/22/pope-francis-muslim-relations/2010371/
Don, in regards to Catholocism perverting christian doctrine; didn’t Jesus excoriate the pharisees for putting tradition above and equal to God’s word thus perverting the word?
Bruce,
Jesus certainly did.
25 March 2013/ 14 Nisan 5773 / Passover
I find the following quote from the CNN article referenced below to be quite prophetic with very chilling implications for the true “Body of Christ.”
Pope Francis I on 3/14/13 to the cardinals who elected him as next Vicar of Christ: “I would like for all of us, after these days of grace, that we find courage to walk in the presence of God … and to build the church with the blood of Christ,” the pope continued. “Only this way will the church move forward.”
Reference CNN Article:
New pope talks courage on first day
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/14/world/europe/vatican-new-pope
Thank you again, Don, for your insight in these latest articles. I purposely watched Jack VanImpe the other night and he dedicated most of the program to the new pope. Not once did he mention the Jesuit information. You are so right, he feeds in to the Catholic stuff. He must have many supporters. He so often refers to men who have left the doctrines of the faith by his words “May God help him!”. I pray Jack will openly admit his error to the Catholic doctrine and stand on what he seems to always state that salvation is by Christ alone. We always pray we will end well and I pray this for men who preach, teach, and exhort others in the faith. I don’t like to see something so newsworthy to Christians brushed under the table. I gave the websites you recommended to Christian friends and they were amazed. They are not hearing about this Jesuit information anywhere. Thanks for your insight!
G’Day Don
Interesting blog.
For those who have mentioned Dave Hunts book “A woman Rides The Beast” I would agree that it is a solid study on the role of the Roman Catholic Church in the last days.
It is an amazing book incredibly well referenced for the diligent student.
The world now has a Jesuit Pope.
No surprises there.
The group who’s desire is to unite ALL religion under Rome have now got their man in top spot.
Given all the other signs that show we are in the very last of the last days before Jesus comes for His Bride, we can look at this news from Rome and cry Maranatha.
“Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.” (Luke 21:28 NKJV)
The full name of pope Francis is:
Tarcisio PIETRO Evasio Bertone
He is norn the 2 December 1934 in ROMANO Canavese, Italy
Soure:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarcisio_Bertone
So by his name PIETRO (Peter in italian) and his place of birth ROMANO we have “Petrus Romanus”.
Marc,
I hate to tell you this but you have the wrong Cardinal. Bertone was one of the front runners but he was not elected Pope and is not Pope Francis.
Don,
You are right, I am sorry, I had the name of the wrong cardinal…
But perhaps the present pope Francis I doesn’t count on the prophecy of St Malachi because pope Benedictus XVI is still alive and a pope remains pope until his death, maybe a next pope that will be elected will be Cardinal Tarcisio PIETRO Evasio Bertone that fit so well the prophecy, and maybe Benedictus XVI retirement and the fast election of pope Francis I is done for that purpose, that people get confused and won’t more pay attention to the prophecy anymore when the true Petrus Romanus will come… just thingking…
To all,
The following link has the entire mottoes attributed to St. Malachy and the popes that were said to fulfill them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes
As you see, the mottos end at 112. The unusually long Peter the Roman motto is number 112 (the 112th pope is Pope Francis if your keeping track)
If you really can put the 38 mottoes since 1590 with each of these last 38 Popes, I think your mind probably has crossed over from critical thinking to wanting to see things that really are not there.
I am preferring to withhold my entire first name as I am a public school teacher who would like to keep her job and continue to bring God’s Light into such a dark system. My in-laws are Catholic and my husband grew up Catholic. I also have a close friend in a Bible study who is Catholic. And every time I hear Catholic I want to shake people and scream! The Bible clearly does NOT want us to pray to anyone but God. My husband left the Catholic church and never looked back. Our church even mentioned how praying to these saints (even Mary) was NOT worshiping God but idols. But I digress. Our church did a long study on the End Times and what to expect. I’m sure you already know this, but the devil enjoys mimicking God. Antichrist (the devil’s version of the Messiah), etc. This new pope has been doing very humble things and winning many young people. I don’t think he’s the Antichrist but I am wondering if he is paving the way for the Antichrist. In other words the devil’s version of John the Baptist. Thoughts?
H,
John the Baptist was the prophet that witnessed the coming of the Messiah. So, if Pope Francis were the Devil’s version of John the Baptist he would be the False Prophet of the Antichrist.
This Pope is really being deceptive with his false humility. He washes the feet of convicts who are incarcerated for doing evil and not following Christ. Jesus washed the feet of his 12 disciples as an example of how we are to serve each other in the spiritual Body of Christ. How is washing the feet of outlaws anything other than a grand show of false humility? Then on top of that this pope washes the feet of a Muslim Woman and calls Muslims brothers. Islam is Antichrist. Allah has no Son according to their religion. They are not our brothers.
Even so, if we are near the last days and if the Harlot of Revelation 17 is an ecumenical world religion led by Rome we are going to have to see world religions coming together on humanistic themes. We have seen nothing yet.
Here is a very good artical by John Mcarthur “Exposing the Heresies of the Catholic Church: The Pope”
http://www.gty.org/blog/B130226
A “True” Defender of the Faith has gone on to be with the Lord.
Friday, April 5, 2013, Dave Hunt drew his final breath and entered into the presence of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. His beloved wife Ruth was at his side.
http://www.thebereancall.org/
Hi Don.
This Peter the Roman thing reminds me of a true psychiatric case where the patient claimed he was dead. The psychiatrist could not convince him otherwise. Then the “doctor” came up with an idea.
He asked the patient, “Do the dead bleed?”
“Of course the dead do not bleed,” the “dead” patient replied.
“Then,” said the psychiatrist, “we could easily prove if you are dead or not. If you allowed me to prick your thumb we could prove it either way.”
The “dead” man confidently offered the trick-cyclist his thumb. When the latter pricked it, a trickle of blood flowed from it.
“Wow!” said the “dead” patient, “The dead DO bleed!”
Those who believe the Malachy “prophecy” have shown themselves to have the same mentality.
So do religious people and those who follow political parties. You can hit them with all kinds of facts. They will only accept those which squeeze into their already help paradigms.
I was a Catholic and found that there was substance to the old cliche: You can always tell a Catholic but you can’t tell him much. But I apply that to every religion and political so-called philosophy.
Sadly, a lot of non-Christians can’t tell the difference between Churchianity and Christianity. We have ecumenism to thank for that.
We have much to be thankful for regarding sites like this one. It is cheering to see that you, Don, are willing to contend for the faith [Jude 3] rather than compromise.
I did recently get the news, as Bruce has mentioned, that Dave Hunt has gone to be with the Lord. While I am glad for Dave, I am sad for the rest of us. He will be greatly missed. I have learnt so much from him.
God bless.
MARY is sinless and conceived without sin..
Adam and Eve were created sinless as well before the fall so why not Mary who was soon to be the vessel of the WORD. Otherwise God in the person of Christ would have fallen into the original sin as well.
The Angel Gabriel said: “Hail, Full of Grace!” which by this alone confirms her preserved sinless state as Adam and Eve were created also full of grace at the moment of immaculate conception.
Mary exclaimed “My saviour” which reveals her humility before God and men. And thus by this, she prophecized that ALL GENERATIONS SHALL CALL HER BLESSED. Only Catholics do that. The rest, do otherwise and everything to humiliate her, debase her and dishonor her!
Remember Jesus is GOD? So why does he have to subject HIMSELF to circumcision on his 8th day after birth? Its humility dear! How can you teach others if you yourself is not subject to the law.
This is same with Mary. The mother of GOD for she bore God in the person of Christ in her womb.
While this is true, it doesn’t make her GOD just because she is the mother of GOD. It is only by virtue and by grace that she became the Spouse of God the Holy Spirit and the Mother of God the son,
but she will still remain as the daughter of God the Father.
Ed,
The Bible clearly says all have sinned
If Mary is human she was in the same fallen state that all humans were in. By one man, sin entered the world and by one man’s obedience sin was paid for. That is why scripture calls Jesus the second Adam.
You’re wrong about Jesus being in the fallen nature. He always existed as God and was conceived in the egg of Mary by the power of the Holy Spirit. Jesus was God in a human woman. Mary was a segregate mother, but Jesus was God before the incarnation. He was always God and was still God in the womb of Mary.
The angel Gabriel saying that Mary was full of grace did not mean she was sinless. All that trust in the Lord for their salvation are in God’s grace. Gabriel was just telling Mary that she was blessed over all other woman because she was chosen to be the mother of the Savior of the world. That is a fact, and it was through the grace of God that Mary received this honor not because she was born superhuman or had reached perfection herself. There were no perfect believers ever in the history of the fallen world other than Jesus. If Mary was not a fallen human then Jesus would not even qualify to be the kinsman redeemer of the Human Race. He had to be fully human to do that. Through the DNA of Mary he became fully human but through the conception by the Holy Spirit He was fully God within a woman’s egg and then a womb.
Jesus kept all the law for us because there is no way that we can possibly keep all points of the law. Jesus came to fulfill the law because we could not do it. He went to the cross sinless in our place. Jesus did not come to teach us how to be righteous by keeping the law like Himself. That was impossible for fallen man and that is why He did it for us and bridged the gap between fallen man and a righteous sinless God. For by one man’s disobedience sin came into the world and by one man obedience unto death on the cross sin is now covered by His blood. We become righteous by trusting in the the righteous Son that God sent to save the world and not by trying to emulate the works of Jesus.
All true Christians are in the Body of Christ by betrothal to the King. Mary also is in the same body. She is a great Saint but you dishonor her when you go beyond scripture and make claims about her that she would never claim. The real tragedy is the claimed messages from Mary always have a works theology that is totally contrary to scripture. Mary would do no such thing. So if the message is not coming from Mary and is conflicting with the gospel of Grace through Faith given in the scriptures you can be sure there is a demonic entity of deception behind it. And I can tell you who. It is the same Queen of Heaven demon that Israel worshiped in the Old Testament. Open your bible and read what God had to say about that entity in Jeremiah.
I notice, ed10908, that you call Mary the Mother of God.
I remember at my Catholic schools having to pray to the images of this Semiramis (on which this Mary is based), painted and sculpted from the imaginations of artists. Often they looked quite different from each other.
The usual prayer we recited had in it the words “Holy Mary, Mother of God.” As God has always existed, how in the name of common sense–let alone of logic and Scripture–can God then have a mother?
I’m sorry, but the very idea is utterly ridiculous.
Jesus makes it very clear that, as a Christian, Mary was no greater in God’s sight than any other Christian [Matt 12:46-50; Mark 3:31-34].
Not so long ago I read about Jewish men being uncomfortable on reading the way Jesus spoke to Mary in John 2:4, addressing her as “Woman”. They considered it inappropriate in their culture to address one’s mother in that way. So in no way would they have seen Jesus regarding His mother in any way as equal to God.
By the plain statements of Scripture neither should any Christian for it does not give us any santion to do so.
Mary herself stated plainly that God was her Saviour [Luke 1:47]. So there is no way she would have wanted anyone to look upon her as God. The idea is utter blasphemy. It would have been blasphemy to any Jewish person then as it still is now to all but the Messianic minority.
Indeed, Jews tried to stone Jesus for making Himself equal with God. And, if Jesus had been any other person who ever lived, they would have been well within their rights!!!
As to Mary’s being full of grace putting her on a par with God: let’s consider something. Surely we will all be full of grace when we spend eternity with Christ. Will that then make us all equal to God?
Of course it won’t. We need God to give us that grace. So did Mary.
It is interesting in Roman Catholic worship that Mary is not only called the Queen of Heaven, as Semiramis was; but she is also worshiped with a child. So was Semiramis, Isis and other forms of the same pagan goddess.
Sorry, I missed out some words in the sentence above starting, “It would have been blasphemy to any Jewish person then..” The words following should be “to put anyone on a level with God” before @and it still is now to all but the Messianic minority.” My mistake!
According to the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church:
[The "Code of Canon Law" and the "Catechism of the Catholic Church."]
The Catholic Mary is the Icon/Idol of “the Church” in these Final Days.
The Catholic Mary the “all-holy ever-virgin Mother of God.”
The Catholic Mary was “pure from all personal sin throughout her life.”
The Catholic Mary is exalted above the Apostles of Christ.
The Catholic Mary “goes before” the Church.
The Catholic Mary was conceived without sin.
The Catholic Mary is one they pray to.
The Catholic Mary is who they surrender their lives to.
The Catholic Mary brings the “gifts of eternal salvation.”
The Catholic Mary is put on the same level as God.
The Catholic Mary is perfect and her name is to be honored.
The Catholic Mary is the Queen of Heaven.
The Catholic Mary is a “god” of the “Church” and is to be worshiped!
The Catholic Mary is the “bride without spot or wrinkle.”
The Catholic Mary has taken the place of Christ!
The Catholic Mary is worshiped by the “Vicar of Christ,” the Pope!
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The Pope is Peter’s successor.
The Pope is infallible by virtue of his office.
The Pope is the Vicar or substitute for Christ on this earth.
The Pope has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church.
The Pope has full power and authority over all ecumenical councils.
The Pope must approve all decrees of the ecumenical council.
The Pope has full authority over the college of bishops.
The Pope has the final word with no appeal process whatsoever.
The Pope seeks to have power over all men everywhere in all churches.
C. Read,
All true, and that is why the whole Roman system gives a message that is in direct opposition to salvation offered only through faith in Jesus Christ. And many ecumenical Protestants think Christendom can unite with those that believe such blasphemy and damnable heresy?? Maybe the Harlot of Revelation 17 can, but true Christians cannot.
Amen, Don. You have it in a nutshell.