Dave is correct about the vast majority of Christianity in America and the West. We have become like our mother Israel who became a Harlot and God cast her out of the land. We made corrupt world leaders our saviors, we took the God who sustains us out of the equation, and played the harlot with the world and trust in our material riches.

Christianity in America is on her death bed. What happened to our Mother Harlot Israel will now happen to the apostate church. Nevertheless, even in the Harlot that we now call Christianity God has a faithful remnant that have not bowed their knee to the neo-paganism Baal of our time. We well trust in Christ no matter how far this nations descends into debauchery and socialistic fascism. True believers need to come out and be separate from them and be spared the judgments that will eat away at these idol worshipers bodies and souls like cancer.

Most of our Christians leaders have been deceived and have defected to a worldly gospel and I just do not see any significant Christian leadership being raised up to lead America to repentance. On the contrary, Christian seminaries and Bible colleges are teaching worldly philosophies and postmodern error and just spreading the cancer to all churches. Therefore the next work of God will be judgment not revival.

God will not spare America from judgment. Even now we should see the walls of this great nation are crumbling, the family is being destroyed and every sort of evil is allowed and celebrated. Judgment is at the door but everyone thinks their political idols will save them. They will not.

America’s greatness was given by God and was a gift of God’s favor on a nation that honored Him. God no longer has a reason to favor America where He is outlawed and where even the people called by His name look toward Idols in men and government rather than looking toward the Lord. God has no reason to favor a nation that has departed from His ways to embrace doctrines of devils and the ways of the morally insane.

Now America can expect the curse she has brought on herself by abanding God and His ways. The faithful righteous will put there trust in the Lord and not in men through the coming storm and wait for the new day to dawn. That is where we are really at in spite of the hype about the future greatness of America.

Dave Daubenmire — The Congregation of the Dead

THE CONGREGATION OF THE DEAD

By Coach Dave Daubenmire
October 9, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead. Proverbs 21:16

America is a dying country. I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but America is a dead man walking.

The once great “shining city on a hill” is gasping for breath. Everywhere you turn you are faced with the harsh truth that the death rattle has begun. We are a dying people controlled by a dying government, infected with the dead leadership of dead men, who chew on a dead gospel served-up in dead churches, by dead pastors living out a dead faith.

The stench of death is permeating our society. How could this possibly be? America, has wandered “out of the way of understanding.” Make no mistake about it; America is dying of spiritual starvation. We are the victims of spiritual bulimia, willingly vomiting out all that would nourish us.

America is a congregation of the dead.

We have no one to blame but the Church. I know that makes many of you nervous as you cling to your “dead faith full of dead works” believing that God is pleased with your apathy towards the spiritual condition of this nation. You, my Christian friends, are complicit in the spiritual coup that has swept over America. Compromise is the birthing ground of sin. Savorless salt producing good-for-nothing Christianity.

We are a nation of liars, following liars, believing liars, and celebrating liars. Jesus said “The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. We have rejected His words, and we have rejected His life. “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.”

Much of America is Christian in Name Only. (CHINO) We wear Jesus like a merit badge from the Boy Scouts. But for most Americans church membership is no different than membership in the local Moose Lodge or the American Legion. It is a social structure where like-minded folks get together for fellowship. Like the Shriners, the Church is a club for do-gooders who want to shine their “Christian Medals” for their friends to see.

We have rejected God, rejected His Truth, and rejected His Son. We have embraced death, celebrate death, and subsidize death.

We are a congregation of the dead.

Our government is corrupt because our people are corrupt. Our people are corrupt because our churches are corrupt. Most serve mammon and give lip-service to God. Pastors beg the government to permit them to preach what God has commanded them to say. No man can serve two masters.

God is judging America my friends. Fifty million babies, sodomy in the streets, and the purging of His name….

“I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever.” Thomas Jefferson.

The alleged-deist Thomas Jefferson was ten-times the Christian most evangelicals are today and the Baptists wanted to run him out of office.

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Ray Boltz says he is homosexual and Clay Aiken also claims he is homosexual. Seems that our Christian entertainment stars are singing the talk but not singing the walk. You might read what John Lanagan says about his own his own experience with this destructive lifestyle.

Christian Worldview Network - Brannon Howse - Singing The Homosexual Blues

Singing The Homosexual Blues

That’s a pretty sad song Clay Aiken and Ray Boltz are singing. Their “coming out” is seen by many as a cause for celebration. But my wife and I are not celebrating. We have both repented of this sexual sin. We belong to Jesus Christ, and we rely on His Word.

When I was thirty eight years old, I was informed my father had AIDS. I discovered that he had had a secret life for decades. Once having learned this, much of his misery, his desperate drinking, and his fear and anger began to make sense. My father sobered up in his later years, went to a psychiatrist who convinced him homosexuality was normal, and died of AIDS in the late 1980s. He was in a coma the last three days, and I hold to the hope that Christ came to him.

While I hadn’t known about my father’s secret sin, he never knew about mine. In the early 1990s, I traveled to New York, prepared to fully commit myself to a lifestyle I never did feel right about. I could not seem to escape it. It was a demonic dimension of drag queens, transsexual bars, and drug and alcohol drenched nightclubs. While I am not purposely trying to provoke anyone, neither am I going to deny there is something very strong and very evil behind our nation’s ever-escalating celebration of sexual perversion.

The Lord in His mercy sent a Christian couple to the shelter where I was staying. They knew exactly what I was up to, and ministered powerfully to me. For years the Lord helped me as I fought this thing.

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This article sure hits the nail on the head. It makes the connection between Obama, Oprah and Tolle. This trinity of malignant narcissist’s think that they will actually change the world from what it is, to a “world as it should be”.

Imagine having Obama in the White house and having Oparah and Tolle as his advisers. Obama will control what you are told from the political, Oprah will greatly influence TV addicts, and Tolle will be the false prophet of a New Age pluralist religion that tells the world to hail this elitist pluralist puppet speaking great things.

We already see that most of the world is putting their future hope in the Obamanation who has done absolutely nothing to warrant such a position or the world’s admiration. How do you even dream up a way to bring in such an “all paths” New Age pluralist paganism to attempt to take over the world? (Of course they exclude true Christians and display great hatred toward us because we will not be deceived).

What you are seeing is not just natural events there are Satanic forces behind all this and only the Church can stop it. However, much of the Church is asleep or have been deceived themselves by liberal postmodern leaders.

The outcome of this election may determine much more than who becomes President. If Obama wins it most likely will determine the whole future path of the world and bring persecution to true Christians even in Western nations.

You simply have to read this article to understand what we are dealing with here!

American Thinker: Obama, Oprah, and the Guru: Malignant Narcissism

Grandiosity, more than anything else, is what characterizes Obama’s character and campaign. Grandiosity is also, more than anything else, what characterizes narcissism, and Obama’s narcissism has become obvious to many.

Two other very reliable witnesses to Obama’s narcissism are Oprah Winfrey and her guru, Eckhart Tolle, both themselves pathological narcissists. Delusions of grandeur interpersonally connect Obama, Oprah, and her guru. All three believe they can, even that that they must, change the world for the better, and that means garnering for themselves more and more adulation, what the psychologists call “narcissistic supply.”

The public record shows this: First, within the minds of Barack and Michelle Obama resides the grandiose, even megalomaniacal notion that they have the power to make the world as-it-is into the world-as-it-should be. Second, the Obamas look to talk-show host, Oprah Winfrey, as their “global role model” to effect this change. Third, as the Obamas’ model for change, Oprah relentlessly promotes the grandiose New Age religion of her guru, Eckhart Tolle.

Let’s review the connection between the narcissists: Barack Obama looks to Oprah Winfrey as his “global role model” for change. To effect this worldwide change, Oprah, in turn, relies on the “infallible” teachings of her guru, Eckhart Tolle. Tolle, in turn, looks in the mirror and
makes friends with the backwards image of himself, thus enabling him, and others who see themselves in the same backwards way (Obama and Oprah), to “change the world.” All three mock the Judeo-Christian tradition. All three are determined to remake the world “as it should be.”

It is significant that Obama, Oprah, and Tolle all mock the Judeo-Christian tradition, because that tradition carries with it a standard of truth and conduct. According to the Ten Commandments, for example, idol worship and lying are wrong. Tolle, Oprah, and Obama, violate those commandments by worshiping their own images and lying to protect the imagined integrity of those images. Malignant narcissists cannot tolerate a spiritual or religious system of absolute standards. All morality must be self-referential. Thus, it wasn’t the truth that led Oprah to endorse Obama but rather what she called “my own truth.” Eckhart Tolle is Oprah’s guru only because his mentally deranged worldview validates Oprah’s “own truth.”

In their efforts to remake our planet, Obama, Oprah, and Tolle are not looking toward a world that glorifies God or Christ. They look to be part of the reign of a different savior. According to Oprah, not only does Obama always tell the truth, he also knows how “to be the truth,” a straightforward messianic reference. Obama’s, Oprah’s, and Tolle’s “world as it should be” will be one that glorifies the two-dimensional, backwards, grandiose, greedy idol-images of themselves.

Within that morally upside-down world, the walls protecting our republican government and our Judeo-Christian values will crumble — just as Obama said in Berlin that they must — and our people will be sacrificed to the false god of malignant narcissism.

A closer look at these three narcissists and their widely-ignored interconnections is in order

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Once upon a time in America a man’s word was his bond, most people had Integrity. People did not even need contracts a handshake was reliable. Today, even if you have a written contract you have little guarantee that those who entered into the contract will even attempt to fulfill it. About one half of Americans simply cannot be trusted anymore.

I have been observing this trend toward a nation of people who lack integrity for quite some time. I guess you might blame it on postmodern thought where morals and truth are said to be relative. Nonetheless, hiding behind the philosophy of relativism does not mean that these people do not actually know the difference between good and evil. They really do, they simply choose to be selfish liars.

The root causes of the lack of integrity in America appears to be selfishness and having no empathy or love for others. Many people just no longer care what their own actions do to others. It is all about “me” and that is why this is called the “me generation”.

Some might think the lack of integrity is limited to mostly the younger generation but that is not true. Lack of Integrity is found across the board. It seems that all age groups have now become infected with this selfishness through media brainwashing, bad example and permissiveness where there is very little negative consequence for doing what they know is wrong.

I guess on a Christian website we should first point out the lack of integrity of many of our Christian leaders. I am not going to get into self centered liberal, postmodern or legalistic theology in this article. They are subjects beyond the scope of this article. There have been obvious signs that there is a major problem in the lack of integrity in the clergy across denominational lines when top “Christian” leaders are constantly being exposed as pedophiles, fornicators, homosexuals, hypocrites, greedy, con artists, liars and thieves.

You would think our so called “men of God” would be above such things but apparently many are not. What you see on the news are only the high profile cases. That is only the tip of a iceberg. The sins of “Christian” leaders run deep and many so called fishers of men, ship’s have been sunk due to lack of integrity.

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Its enough to want to make any true missionary of the gospel of Jesus Christ puke. Religious pluralism and world socialism is Rick Warren’s answer for the world not Jesus Christ.

Most “Christians” in this country just do not get it because I am not sure they understand the gospel of Jesus Christ themselves. Christians are told to give the gospel to the whole world so they can die to the bondage of this world and live for Jesus Christ. Instead, people like Rick Warren tell Christians to join with world demonic religions so they can be kept in religious bondage.

This is the number one critical issue in Christianity today. Many who identify themselves as Christians have drank the post-modern pluralistic pragmatic relativism Kool-Aid. They have actually become part of the harlot woman that rides the Beast into power. Notice how subtly the Harlot rides in with human good works but she denies that there is only one Lord. That is why God calls her a Harlot. She played the whore with all the religious of the world to bring in the Beast who will then turn on her and devour her.

Rick Warren=CFR globalism, Religious pluralism=one world harlot religion, Socialism=mans own efforts.

It is time to wake up!

This is not coming from God. That is why those who do not know Jesus Christ so easily embrace Rick Warren.

Spare me, but “Rick Warren says the right things when in Christian company”. So did Jim Jones at first. What is Rick Warren really leading the church into? That should be the real question!
Paul Proctor just wrote an article that goes more into the issues Christians partner with pagans for a better world. I did not known that Richard Land of the SBC was also in the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). What a fine worldly globalist outfit these “Christian” leaders are yoked up with.

Eboo Patel: Rick Warren, Interfaith Activist - On Faith at washingtonpost.com

Rick Warren is our new Billy Graham - at the center of not only his own Christian tradition, but of American civil religion as well. Churches follows his direction (most recently into Rwanda), and political candidates seek his blessing (Exhibit A: The Saddleback Forum).

There has been a lot of talk about the risks that Warren has taken - inviting the pro-choice Obama to address a decidedly pro-life gathering on the topic of AIDS, for example.

Another risk he is taking - more subtle, perhaps, but equally profound - is around religious diversity.

Last week at the Clinton Global Initiative, Warren was asked how “the church” could help to solve poverty. His response was to rattle off the numbers of Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims and Christians in the world - in that order - and make a plea that the public and private sectors take seriously “the faith sector as the third leg of the stool of successful development”.

Warren consistently used the language of a religious pluralist. He spoke of “mosques, temples and churches” as central to the life of villages in the developing world. He underscored the fact that there are huge numbers of people of faith in the world, and huge numbers of houses of worship in places where clinics, banks and schools don’t exist. Those people of faith can be trained to be the arms and legs of any development plan, and those houses of worship can double as clinics, banks and schools.

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The bailouts may bring us one step closer to the one world Beast economic system but there are some things said in this article that quite frankly make unfounded innuendos about people in our government and in the financial management of our money that are just not appropriate.

The article seems to paint that since the great depression we have been control by a worldwide conspiracy that is deliberately leading us to the Mark of the Beast system. There is no such conspiracy there is no such evil cabal of men. What is happening is the inevitable results of man’s mismanagement of the world’s economic systems. Man is designed to organize and manage things on the earth and anywhere you have civilization management is going to take place. Otherwise you have anarchy.

Because of the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life one thing man does always leads to another. He overspends and goes into debt (the borrower will be the slave of the lender) so he becomes enslaved by the lenders through his own debt to them. The lenders are people of the same nature and they do the same thing and end up being the slaves of those with more money etc., soon everyone is owing more than they can pay and the debts have to wiped clean or the whole system collapses. That is where the U.S. is at now.

God had a way to deal with that weakness in man in the law. There was a Jubilee every fifty years where everyone’s debts were wiped out and they were to start afresh. We of course do not do what God instructed Israel to do in the law so we just keep piling up debt until the system has to collapse. When the latest modern collapse of the monetary system takes place the world elite will not want to make the same mistakes again so they will create the best system they can with the tools that they have available. In the future that means RFID tags, embedded chips and a secure worldwide economic system.

it is not really a sinister conspiracy plot as some try to sell. If man could actually manage his own sin on earth he would not need bailing out by a Savior. In addition, as long as the Church is here to be salt and light things on earth may get bad but they are not going to get totally out of control. It is only after the restrainer is taken out of the way and Satan is cast out of Heaven that the Beast system takes control of the inevitable world electronic economic system. Before Satan and his angels are cast out of heaven there are no restrictions on taking part in any of this. The electronic system only becomes sinister after the angels are cast out unto the earth and force people to take the mark and worship the Beast in order to buy or sell. Only when Satan has control of the whole earth does world electronic banking fulfill Bible prophecy.

Let’s not put the cart before the horse here and think that Satan actually can do anything he wants now, he cannot. He answers to God and only in the last 42 months does God give Satan free reign on earth in order for him to deceive those who would not have Jesus rule over them.

This article also jumps to the conclusion that Americans have lost control of their destiny. Did we ever have control of our own destiny? Not only that, the U.S. is only one nation on the earth. Believe it or not, everything is not about America.

America + decline does not = end of world, as some like to think.

America is not in Bible prophecy and that most likely is because America is not a major factor in the world during end time events. Nations have risen and fallen in the past and the Beast never rose to power because of it. Will the Beast come to power now because of U.S. economic troubles? If he does it will not be because America falls but because true Christian’s rise (Rapture) and Satan falls (to the earth).

There simply is something missing in the logic of those who love these ongoing conspiracy themes. I know saying that will not be popular with those who see demonic cabals everywhere, or the end of the world every Feast of Trumpets. The truth is that the Rapture is not likely to occur on the Feast of Trumpets this year and it probably will not come on the next or the next. The Rapture does not have to occur on the Feast of Trumpets at all despite all the Internet speculations. The Church is not Israel.

Events will go on until the time set by the Father and some Christians just need to get used to that fact and stop looking for some magic formula so they can scare their friends with their new found revelations. They need to stop blaming all the inevitable problems caused by man as proof text that the end will be here in 2012.

It is always getting closer to the end but there is no conspiracy of demon possessed men running the earth. They could not get along with each other if there were. We cannot even get the Pastors and deacons of our churches on the same page and we are led by the Holy Spirit. How in the world then does Satan get his possessed and his also possessed to see eye to eye on anything?

Then you wonder why some Christians get upset with those who spend all their time trying to figure out the timing of the Rapture and the second coming instead of using their gifts for the Church and working to get people saved? In my experience half the people coming up with these dates and theories do not even attend a local church.

Don’t get me wrong, I teach Bible prophecy and I think the Lord is coming in the lifetime of most of the people reading this article but much of what is being said lately in the name of Bible prophecy really are pagan theories with Bible terminology. I guess I am now in big trouble with some of you. Please spare me the email because when I do not see things your way you send me insults. I really do have better things to waste my time on. I get a little tired of unsolicited emails from those who just have to get me to agree with their conspiracies or agree that they know the day or dates of the Rapture or second coming. Almost always after a half dozen exchanges the only thing accomplished is wasted time.

But I digress, what the big bailout means is that most of us are too greedy and we spend far more than we have and we are so far in debt that we can never pay it back. We buy houses we cannot afford betting on them to rise in value ten percent a year and we expect our mutual fund managers to keep giving us ten percent returns on our investment when they can only safely give us five. We knew that they were gambling with our investments but we thought that everything keeps going up and that they were too smart to lose. Well, they did lose, and there will be a bailout by us or there will be a depression. There also will be more bailouts by us until the world decides it does not want to bail out America anymore. When that happen we are going to lose more than you can imagine.

That is really what all the bailouts mean. It is not some dark conspiracy by satanic bankers to take over the world it is our own enslavement to debt!

What the big bailout means

Do you think it’s an accident?

Do you think it’s just a case of bad management?

Do you think the proposed $700 billion taxpayer bailout of U.S. financial institutions just happened?

I don’t think so.

In fact, I think it’s part of a master plan – one pushing us inevitably, inexorably closer to a closed cashless global economic system of total control.

I know. This seems like an extreme statement. It sounds like I’ve drunk deep of the conspiracy Kool-Aid. But let’s take a look at history.

Americans have lost control of their own destiny. Elections don’t mean much. Congressional debates are illusory. We are on a path to tyranny. Neither Barack Obama nor John McCain is going to stop it. Neither a Republican Congress nor a Democratic Congress is likely to slow it down.

Most Americans seem ill-equipped to understand what’s happening or to comprehend the forces at work behind it. They seem more concerned with their basic needs and material pleasures than the fact that they are losing their birthright of self-government and individual freedom – that their children will never experience the promises of the Constitution.

What just happened? To simplify it, the government just got a lot bigger and more powerful, which means another nail was just hammered into the coffin of American liberty. And, in one of the largest wealth transfer schemes in history, a few wealthy and powerful individuals just got wealthier and more powerful – at your expense.

But this is not the end. This is not the final fix. This is not the final solution – not by a long shot. There will be more consolidations of power and money. There will be more “reforms.” There will be more regulations, more restrictions on the way you conduct your affairs, more centralization and control.

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I ran across a couple of good articles on the postmodern emergent church movement. First Norman L. Geisler wrote a really brilliant article on this movement. This is probably the most informative article about the emergent movement that I have ever seen

Below is just the first paragraph of the article but the whole article is packed with Geisler’s brilliant logical way of presenting information

There is one key influence on the Emergent Church movement—postmodernism. While not all Emegents accept all premises of post-modernism, nonetheless, they all breathe the same air. Post modernism embraces the following characteristics: 1) The “Death of God”—Atheism; 2) The death of objective truth—Relativism; 3) The death of exclusive truth—Pluralism; 4) Death of objective meaning—Conventionalism; 5) The death of thinking (logic)—Anti-Foundationalism; 6) The death of objective interpretation—Deconstructionism, and 7) the death of objective values—Subjectivism.
From post-modernism Emergents devise the following key ideas: They consider themselves: 1)Post-Protestant; 2)Post-Orthodox; 3)Post-Denominational; 4)Post-Doctrinal; 5) Post-Individual; 6) Post-Foundational; 7) Post-Creedal; 8 )
Post-Rational, and 8)Post-Absolute. It is noteworthy that “post” is a euphemism for “anti.” So, in reality they are against all these things and more.
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Next Jan Markel wrote an article Will the Emergent Church submerge yours. Jan’s article puts together some bullet statements on the warning signs of a church that is buying into the Emergent movement. If your seeing them you need to do what you can to change the postmodern thinking and if you cannot get leaders in your church to stay on solid ground you may have to relocate.

I think one key point is what they believe about Bible prophecy if they think it all happened in the past and the Church is Israel and that you need to help bring in a socialistic kingdom on earth here and now, you probably are in a very liberal mainline Church or your in a postmodern emergent church or both.

Dr. David Reagan gives a very good summery of the prophecies to Israel and the Jews in end time bible prophecy. How anyone can read works like his article or know these scriptures for themselves and still believe that God is through with Israel or that the prophecies to Israel are now fulfilled by the Church is totally beyond me. Dr. Reagan also gives a list of future promises to the Church.

Christian Worldview Network - Brannon Howse - A Summary Of The Jews In End Time Bible Prophecy

A Summary Of The Jews In End Time Bible Prophecy

By Dr. David R. Reagan

We are living in exciting times when we can witness Bible prophecy being fulfilled before our very eyes. Many of these prophecies relate to the Jewish people and their nation. Below is a summary of prophecies concerning the Jews that are currently being fulfilled and those that are yet to be fulfilled.

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Would someone please remove the Episcopal Church from the list of Christian denominations. What is left of this apostate church supports everything that is opposed to biblical teaching. Seems to me that they should now be listed as a cult and any Episcopal Church that does not agree with their anti-Christ, anti-Israel and leftist amoral socialistic agenda should depart from them. Enough is enough, throw the Episcopal bums out of the Church. What would Paul do? (WWPD).

Episcopal bishops join effort against Prop. 8 (OneNewsNow.com)

SACRAMENTO - The Episcopal Church in California is taking up arms against Proposition 8, an amendment that would change the California constitution to preserve the integrity of marriage as being between one man and one woman. In the process the U.S. branch of the Anglican Communion is clashing with a huge interfaith coalition, including Christians, Jews, Muslims, Mormons, Hindus and Sikhs, which is simultaneously launching a campaign to promote the proposition.

the bishops of the Episcopal Church in California have joined the ranks of those working against Proposition 8. All six bishops in the state will officially protest the traditional marriage amendment, according to the Sacramento Bee. The Right Rev. Marc Handley Andrus, Episcopal Bishop of California, held a press conference at San Francisco’s Grace Cathedral on Wednesday to represent the church’s position, “calling for compassion, love and equal protections” for homosexual couples.

Rev. Andrus will be joined by the Right Rev. Steven Charleston, Assisting Bishop of California, the Right Rev. Barry Beisner, Episcopal Bishop of Northern California, as well as other California Episcopal bishops, clerics and laypeople. Rev. Charleston, when asked whether he would yield to a call from the leaders of the worldwide Anglican Communion to return to traditional marriage values, said that he “would accept schism” rather than abandon the homosexual agenda.

In contrast, a large number of faith communities in California have publicly united in avid support of Proposition 8, and are warning voters that the continued dominance of homosexual “rights” in California law will inevitably lead to the marginalization of religious rights. The Orthodox Union (O.U.), one of the largest Orthodox Jewish organizations in the United States, points out that what appears to be freedom for homosexuals in fact means that religious people will ultimately incur the penalty of law for voicing any public opposition to the homosexualist agenda. “Religious institutions and people face charges of bigotry and could be denied government funding and more if same-sex marriage becomes the law of the land,” said the O.U. in a statement.

The California Episcopal Church’s unified effort to hoist the banner of homosexual “rights” marks the further dissolution of the worldwide Anglican Communion, which has continued to fracture under the pressure of liberal and conservative bishops vying for the helm of the Anglican faith, causing congregations to dwindle. The growing strife over such issues caused Archbishop Peter Akinola, the Primate of Nigeria, to conclude at the Global Anglican Future Conference that “There is no longer any hope, therefore, for a unified Communion.”

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What would you think if you went to a physician and he purposely make things up as he went along in regards to your medical treatment? He called himself a Board Certified Purpose Driven specialist. Whatever he think works is the best treatment.

What if you took a formal English course because it was a required course for your advancement and the professor taught you ghetto slang instead? He said you need to be able to be able to communicate with the underclass.

What if you were blind and the word scanner paraphrased the words out of your calculus text book because the program designer believed that truth is relative?

What if you go to Bible college to learn the Bible and they teach you how to do everything but learn proper biblical exegesis. Guess what, the latter is happening all over this country.

Christian Worldview Network - Brannon Howse - Pastoral Malpractice and the Visible Church

Suppose you were to contract a potentially serious medical condition and went to see a doctor. Upon asking him details about the diagnosis and medical consequences you found out that he does not take medical literature literally. In addition, he has not kept up on the latest medical research and has been out of medical school for several decades. He prefers to make his patients happy and comfortable rather than to force them to confront the truth about their health condition. Would you see such a doctor? Neither would I. Such a doctor eventually could be found guilty of malpractice.

I have assumed in Warren’s case that he indeed has the tools to perform sound exegesis. Some of the other leaders of large congregations—Bill Hybels, Robert Schuller, or Joel Osteen—likely are capable of doing sound Biblical exegesis and correctly applying the Bible to the lives of those who attend their churches. But sadly they often do not use sound exegesis—or even use the Bible as the main source of their messages.

Pastor Warren may be correct that you cannot do both—expound important Biblical topics and appear attractive to seekers at the same time. But I disagree completely with the idea that we must appear attractive to lost sinners. We need to preach Christ to lost sinners so that they can know the terms of the gospel. That is the only valid “diagnosis” that will do them any good. In the book of Acts this was done up front, and not through a back door after presenting an alternative that would seem attractive to people in their lost state.

The Bible does not give pastors the liberty to handle the Bible in a sloppy manner.

The issue of motivation to develop the skills and use the tools to perform Biblical exegesis also has reached seminaries. Because of a growing lethargy concerning Biblical interpretation and sound doctrine, many have turned to such sidetracks as “marriage and family therapy” or deceptive mysticism such as “spiritual formation.” Young people from around the country have written us stating that they want to go into the ministry but cannot find a school where they can gain a solid theological education without being subjected to postmodernism, mysticism, the therapeutic gospel, or church growth theory. If many churches are not looking for those who “labor in word and doctrine,” seminaries have little market to train people to do just that. So we find ourselves in the lamentable situation where young people who want to be godly pastors trained with the tools to accurately handle the Bible have difficulty finding a place to be educated, and those who actually do find such an education have difficulty finding churches that want them. As a result, our evangelical movement has grown accustomed to pastoral malpractice as though it were the norm.

The standards are strict and generally well observed for those who treat our bodies and cure our physical ailments. But the standards for those who care for our souls have fallen woefully short.

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You will have to read the full article to get the full flavor of what the Coach is saying here. I guess besides saying that Jesus did raise his voice on occasion he is also saying the Church has become sissified. If men in the Church want to act like women I hope that they at least take some lessons from Sarah Palin.

People are always talking about what Jesus would or would not do, as if they really had a clue what the Creator of the universe would do in our worldly situation. I got so fed up with hearing people say “what would Jesus do” when that was the number one trite saying going around that I wrote my own article about it. You might read the above link if you tend to use those words or just want to hear me rant on about those that do. Of course we all know that Jesus would never rant…..except maybe against religious hyprocrites.

Dave Daubenmire — Jesus Wouldn’t Yell

“Let me ask you a question. After Jesus was led into the dessert and tempted of the Devil, does anyone know how Jesus fought the enemy?”

My brown eyes panned the room looking at the questioning faces; hoping one would know the answer. Finally, in the back of the room a voice squeaked out, “He used the Word.”

“That’s right!!!” I blurted out as I jumped on the front pew. “IT IS WRITTEN.” Jesus fought by using the Word of God and we must learn to do the same! My eyes flashing the passion that players expect out of their coach. Electricity filled the air.

“Well I bet Jesus wouldn’t yell”

I quickly turned towards the sound of the voice. It had emanated from the mouth of a matronly teacher sitting in the third-row of this huge auditorium. She obviously did not appreciate my coaching style. I felt the hair stand-up on the back of my neck. But thanks to the power of the Holy Spirit I did not lash out at her obviously-rude behavior.

Later that day I was at football practice and during a water break I was looking at the rocky hills surrounding our practice field and I suddenly thought of the Sermon on the Mount. Thousands came to hear our Lord as he sat at the top of a hill high over the city. Hmmm, I thought. Top of the hill, thousands of people, no public address system, I wonder how the multitudes heard Him?

I had my answer.

Where do we get these sissy ideas about Jesus? We’re talking about a guy who made a whip and cleared out the flea market at the temple. Don’t you suppose he raised his voice a decibel or two? Read what he said to the Pharisees and Sadducees “a brood of vipers.” Do you think He did this with soft, soothing voice?

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Great article by Marsha West on the foolishness in the Latter-Reign movement and the latest movers and baby rattle shakers. When you read the article take special note of the prophecies from God that these leaders proclaimed over Todd Bentley in their Apostolic Commissioning Service. Todd Bentley was only a symptom of a bigger problem. The real problem is the same leaders who have been saying the same presumptions or lies that they have been saying for decades with the same results.

Don’t you think it is time for Charismatics to get rid of the whole pack of clowns that took over the circus? At least if your going to keep them in your Word-Faith Latter-Rain performance name them appropriately. Instead of calling them anointed prophets, healers and evangelists call them jesters. You can rebuild the movement by starting the “Jesters of the Kingdom Movement”. They will laugh the world into the kingdom. Come to think of it, you tried that already. Remember Rodney Howard Brown and his laughing hyena act?

When will “Christians” put these “anointed leaders” in the exalted Kingdom positions that they are qualified for? Keepers of the jester’s closet.

Marsha West — We Have Had Enough of False Prophets!

WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF FALSE PROPHETS!

By Marsha West

August 30, 2008

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The Holy Spirit is on the move. He’s working in the minds and mouths of the false prophets. BAM! They’ve fallen and they can’t get up.

On June 23rd God moved a mountain — figuratively speaking — and the Charismatic church has been in chaos ever since. That day several of the New Apostolic Reformation leaders met in Lakeland, Florida for Todd Bentley’s “apostolic alignment commissioning service.” What happened was mind-blowing. I’m not talking about miraculous signs and wonders. There was no gold dust, no oil soaked hands, no angels with shimmering clothes and bright blue eyes hovering on stage. There was none of that — but there was a whole lot of shakin’ goin’ on!

Such notables as C. Peter Wagner, leader of the International Coalition of Apostles, his wife, Doris, Ché Ahn, John Arnott, Bill Johnson, Rick Joyner and several others came to the 10,000-seat tent to support what Todd Bentley and Fresh Fire were doing and to commission him as an evangelist. There was only one problem. The leaders failed to put Bentley through a proper vetting process to find out if he was deserving of their high honor. Turns out he wasn’t. Now they have egg on their collective faces and everyone knows it.

Some good has come out of the “Lakeland Outpouring.” It brought to light the highly unorthodox beliefs of the NAR. Those who are a part of this movement should commit 2 Timothy to memory. Another good thing that came out of it is that the Charismatic church leaders who participated in Todd Bentley’s coronation ceremony have been exposed as false prophets and fools.

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John McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin was brilliant. He could not have pleased Evangelical Conservatives more had he picked Kay Arthur for his Vice President running mate. Here is a bright young vibrant born again Christian Governor that is not part of the good old boy Washington political establishment. A woman that is actually living out her faith in her decisions and lifestyle. Dr. Dobson is excited about Sarah Palin being McCain’s choice as is Rush Limbaugh and they will now support McCain. These are the the two big voices that can actually bring out a large conservative vote for McCain. This choice by McCain also sets the stage for the future of the Republican party if
he should win.

Sarah Palin certainly will be a great asset to help McCain win. She will not only appeal to mainstream women she will appeal to blue collar Democrats opposed to abortion and elitist socialism. With this ticket I also support McCain even though I do not agree with some of his past positions. The alternative to this ticket is the ticket of the far left and their demented polices will likely bring the demise of this nation.

You also have to give McCain some credit for his leadership decisions and his judgment. Obama is so out of touch that he could not even pick a suitable Vice President that would appeal to mainstream America. He picked a tired old liberal ivy league professional politician from the good-old-boy network. Mainstream America does not want Joe Biden with his lack of good judgment and his talking down to everyone who does not agree. The Catholic church is not even sure that they want him in their fellowship with his pro abortion views.

I guess some will say that McCain only picked Sarah Palin as a strategic move and that he does not actually believe the things that she does. That certainly might be true but think about this reality. John McCain is 72 years old. Statistics indicate that there is about a 20 percent chance the he will not finish out his first term. He would have only about a 50/50 chance of finishing two terms and if either should happen the most grounded Christian and independent minded person in politics would take over.

Also having Sarah Palin as number two will keep John McCain honest. Should be become too liberal there is a huge chance that he would not even be nominated for a second term and there is also a chance in any case that McCain will not even run for a second term. If any of these things happen Sarah Palin would become the front runner for President. Palin will become hugely popular after a term as Vice President as she is popular as Governor of Alaska with over 80 percent support. Even if McCain serves out two full terms Sarah Palin would be the logical successor and that should be a good thought for Christians.

So I am bringing all this up to tell those who said they will sit out this election because they do not like either choice to now reconsider and vote for McCain/Palin. God could have a plan here for restoring America to constitutional government, as well as fiscal and moral sanity, if His people will do their part and vote against the takeover of America by far left radicals.

A GOP first — female VP nominee (OneNewsNow.com)

John McCain has announced an “out-of-the-box” pick for his vice-presidential running mate: Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. (see video report)

In Dayton, Ohio, the McCain campaign has confirmed that the presumptive GOP presidential nominee named Palin — the first female governor of Alaska — as his pick to join him on the November ticket. Palin and her husband, Todd, are the parents of five children, one of them with Down syndrome. She is a reformer and a self-styled “hockey mom.”

The 44-year-old governor, described by some in the media as a “religious conservative,” was elected to lead Alaska in 2006 after defeating the Republican incumbent. She is strongly pro-life, opposes same-sex “marriage,” and is noted for her energy policies promoting independence from big oil companies.

Governor Palin is described by many conservatives as someone who will rally not only women voters, but also pro-life supporters. Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life, says pro-life supporters are familiar with Governor Palin. He says Governor’s Palin’s spot on the ticket will attract those who had mixed feelings about Senator McCain.

“If we look at the vast segment of the electorate for whom abortion influences their vote — and that’s approximately one third or more of the electorate — then we find within that segment that there is a two-to-one margin in favor of pro-life candidates.”

Christian activist Dr. Gary Cass also believes evangelicals will strongly support McCain now that he has chosen Palen as his running mate. Cass is chairman of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission (CADC), which this past spring unveiled an online petition. The document called on presidential nominees for both major political parties to select a running mate who as been born again, who publicly affirms historic Christianity, and who has a proven record of supporting traditional Christian morality.

Cass says Governor Palin will re-energize the evangelical base. “We have a young, evangelical leader who stands for our particular issues, who will be now be a leader into the future,” he says of the governor-turned-VP-candidate. “[I]t was a very courageous choice by John McCain.”

Two Charismatic leaders question there own discernment and actions in regard to Todd Bentley. That is a good first step but it seems the initial corrections only comes from Christians outside their movement. Only after the circus act is exposed by secular reporters or the leaders fall from their own immoral lifestyles do the Word-Faith leaders claim to see the errors of their ways. These circus acts have been going on for over thirty years in the Charismatic Word-Faith arenas. I have witnessed one after another.

So don’t you Word-Faith Charismatics think it is about time to fix the problem by returning to knowledge of scriptures rather than relying on your tingly feelings and the words from your self appointed anointed? Remove the hucksters and profiteers from among you, and admit that the leaders that you have been putting on pedestals are just fallible people who should always be checked out against God’s Word. They are not a new wave of prophets, healers and apostles bringing new revelations signs and wonders. Until you face up to that fact, the three ring circus will just get a new ringmaster and move somewhere else. Just like it has for decades.

Christian Worldview Network - Brannon Howse - The Needed Closure on Todd Bentley

I dodged the questions about the revival in recent radio interviews I did in other parts of the United States. Finally, I refused to answer the hundreds of e-mails I got about the “revival” from other folks all over the world. In essence, I protected my flock from the three-ring circus and hoopla but did nothing to protect the Body of Christ as a whole.

Hindsight they say is 20/20. It now turns out that all of the rumors were true. It now turns out that the scriptural discernment was correct. It now turns out that this was the same craziness without accountability that the leadership of the sponsoring church is known for. The three-ring circus has been packed up, the tents have been taken down, and the moral failure has been announced. Everyone involved is pushing back, and thousands of hurting people are left questioning God and their salvation.

The question that I now have to ask myself and the question that will haunt me for quite a while is this. Did I sit on the sidelines while the playing field burned? Should have I blogged about it and spoken out about it publicly — done more to get the word out to the rest of the world that this whole thing was about Todd and not God? I took care of my own house — but should I have done more to take care of the entire neighborhood?

Charismatic leader Dutch Sheets also humbled himself stating, “My assignment from the Lord is to repent on behalf of the leadership of the Charismatic Body of Christ. We have failed the Lord and His people in many ways. We must repent if we are to be trusted in the future. We, the leaders of the Charismatic community, have operated in an extremely low level of discernment. Frankly, we often don’t even try to discern. We assume a person’s credibility based on gifts, charisma, whether they can prophesy, or work a miracle.”

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I always said wait until the counterculture hippies grew up and they got into positions of power. Well that day has arrived and they have taken control of the education system, political system, national media, and the religious systems of America. They also produced postmodern brainwashed children who now believe themselves to be the norm. So unless real Christians and real conservatives win this cultural war it is the end of this nation. When the far left hippies and their offspring gain total control they will embrace a totally pagan fascist world system. Woe to any who oppose them.

Had anyone said that America would decline this rapidly fifty years ago people would have thought you were smoking dope. Now half of our society is smoking dope or worse and they all think that they are perfectly sane. The Democrat running for President even claimed to be a crack user himself but does anyone care? The Democrat running for President never distinguished himself in any position he ever held but does anyone care? The hippies and their offspring just want change toward a secular idealism that is not possible with man’s evil nature. They like murder of the unborn being their own choice, so they all hail the Obamanation. They like it that homosexuality is destroying morality in America so they will have no moral restraints, so they all hail the Obamanation. They think Christianity is creating a world utopia on earth for people to continue in their abominations, so they all hail the Obamanation. All the idol worshipers now worship the Obamanation because he has the same demented values of the old hippies and their young offspring.

Christian Worldview Network - Brannon Howse - Jezebel and the Cultural Creatives

The Emergent Village and “progressive” Christian liberalism are but a drop in the progressive bucket. To their left, “cultural creatives” or “new progressives” are brimming over with an optimistic vision for taking political power.

Who are the “cultural creatives”? They define themselves as the “organic food-buying, national-health-care-supporting, yoga-practicing, misunderstood counter-culturalists.” According to the high-end spirituality magazine, What Is Enlightenment? (August/October, 2008), their ranks continue to swell, thanks to Al Gore’s movie, Barack Obama’s “change”, and Eckhardt Tolle and Oprah Winfrey’s “New Earth” webinar (see NC #47). This movement favors “ecological sustainability (read: green collectivism), non-traditional spirituality (neo-pagan religion), civil rights (rights for all sexual expressions) and grassroots politics (non-democratic, non-governmental organizations working under the geo-political umbrella of the United Nations). They also distinguish themselves from “modernism” (secular humanism) and “traditionalism” (Christianity).

Their appearance is of immense historical and religious significance. They explicitly identify themselves as inheritors of the “values revolution [of] the Sixties [that] is still developing and maturing.”

They are the maturing fruit of a development that no one expected. We all thought the Sixties was an ephemeral social event driven by marginal drop-out hippies. Whoops, they dropped back in! In the Left Coast New Age spirituality we witnessed the first signs of a major religious and social revolution. Its conquering march through the institutions has established as normative a worldview of drug-aided mystical, neo-pagan spirituality, radical egalitarianism and total sexual license. The marginal cult has now morphed into a master plan, a full-blown all-inclusive spiritual worldview to transform every aspect of life on the planet. The bizarre views of the Sixties counter-culturalists, though few knew it, signaled the disturbing germination, in “Christian” America, of the age-old alternative to biblical theism, namely spiritual paganism.

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I was waiting for someone to go on the biblical offensive and get it right about the political forum at Saddleback led be pastor Rick Warren. Coach Dave Daubenmire single handed takes out the whole defensive line of Rick Warren in this article. The Coach really defines in this article the whole problem with this superstar and his whole team.

All I heard from most Evangelical leaders was how great this political forum was but few mentioned that “America’s Pastor” is not even using the Christian playbook, he is using the playbook of the losing team. What gospel was heard from “America’s Pastor”? The gospel of which politician has the best band-aids to fix a nation already condemned without Christ?

To prove once again the weakness of this New Evangelical offense, Rick Warren again gets the opportunity to go on Larry King and again misses the opportunity to share the Gospel to anyone, but Bill Maher goes on Larry King and he fully explains quite aptly to the whole world why he mocks Christianity. Where is the Christian witness of America’s CFR superstar pastor on these world platforms he is given? Where is the call of the nation to repentance? Where is the call to reject evil and to turn to Christ? Is anyone getting this?

Couch Daubenmire skillfully explains in this article how sin causes the aids, the poverty, the abortions and the other social problems in the world. Deal with the sin and you will cure the social problems. Treating the symptoms of what evil produces is not going to fix the world. Some Christians have got their worldly cart before the heavenly white horse rider? Read the article, if you still don’t get it you may be one reason why Rick Warren is still “America’s Pastor”.

Dave Daubenmire — Does Evil Exist?

That was the defining question asked by Pastor Rick Warren at his “Christian” forum the other night.

Even though both candidates disagreed on how evil should be dealt with, both McCain and Obama made it clear that they believe there is such a force.

Seeing how this was a debate involving self-proclaimed Christians, in a Christian church, hosted by a Christian pastor, this was a great opportunity for America’s leading evangelical to define for all America the root cause of our nation’s problems.

Instead, Pastor Warren moved on to climate change, adoption, and other peripheral issues. Perhaps I am wrong, but I would expect “America’s Pastor” to handle the debate in a manner that would reflect the attitude of the Berean Christians who “searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.” Sadly, Pastor Warren looked more like Tom Brokaw than John the Baptist.

How could a Christian pastor not more aggressively defend the Cross? Why are CNN, Time Magazine and the God-hating media fawning over this “evangelical” pastor? Could it be that they love his non-judgmental form of Christianity? Are you aware that Rick Warren is drifting towards an affiliation with “the religious left.” From a political perspective, “left” usually is a synonym for “liberal” or “socialist”, while “right” refers to “conservatives” or “capitalist.” The “left” believes that government is the answer to most of America’s problems, while the “right” believes that government IS the problem.

Government is replacing God and Pastor Warren is leading God’s ouster. The same group that loves to scream “separation of church and state” wants the government to determine morality. Abortion is moral, global warming is immoral. Homosexual sex is moral, lack of AIDS funding is immoral. Shacking up is moral, failure by taxpayers to pay for fatherless children is immoral. Failure to drill for oil is moral, driving a car is immoral.

The religious left wants to treat the symptoms. Our pastors should be fighting to eliminating the cause.

Monday night Rick Warren was on with Larry King. Once again he failed to clearly share the Gospel. Larry King is lost. If I were on his show I would tell him so. I would pin him down. I would make him uncomfortable. He is heading towards a future without God. He would never invite me on the show again. Maybe that’s why Warren swallowed his tongue. The fear of man is a snare…

Last night the God-mocking Bill Maher was Larry’s guest. He made fun of God. He poked fun at Christianity. He is a radical fundamental secularist. He wants God driven from America. He wasn’t worried about offending anyone. He is proud of his agnosticism.

Maher was prouder of his lies than Warren was of God’s Truth. For an hour Maher preached the foolishness of Jesus.

Warren spoke of global warming, AIDS, and adoption. He failed to mention sin. He never talked about the need for repentance and redemption He speaks only of treating symptoms.

Maher thinks Christianity is evil. He doesn’t believe in sin. Warren believes in sin, he just doesn’t think it is evil.

Evil exists alright. The problem we face is how to recognize it. Sadly, before the whole world Warren came up empty. He hid the Light under the bushel of politics.

Sometimes I wonder who the real enemy is.

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This article is very long. I admit it is not for everyone. However, if you are an intellectual you might want to read about Pope Benedict’s views on the decline of Western civilization. He sees the early American Republic model of government as the best way to save Europe. For a European Pope to say the West is in decline and to say the American Republic form of government is the answer for the West is quite unexpected.

Benedict’s latest views on postmodernism and cultural relativism where cultural has separated from truth are also very astute observations.

Meanwhile, Liberals in America are now rapidly moving us in the wrong direction away from an authentic Constitutional Republic to the Western system that the Pope believes has caused the Western decline. Pope Benedict is correct.

The Pope’s quest to save Western civilization

Pope Benedict XVI has identified several causes for the intellectual, moral, cultural, and spiritual decline of the European civilization. I was thrilled to learn about this because I have independently come to some of the same conclusions. Allow me to recapitulate his conclusions as five theses:

1) The West has declined because of the modern separation of faith and truth.

2) The West has declined because of the modern separation of metaphysical truth and practical truth.

3) The West has declined because of the modern separation of freedom and truth.

4) The West has declined because of its postmodern rejection the old rapprochement between Christianity and the classics of ancient Greece and Rome.

5) The attempt to rehabilitate of West by returning to the culture of premodern Catholic Europe would be a mistake. He points to another way forward.

Benedict points to the American Republic

Benedict encourages Europe to learn from the 18th and 19th century Anglo-Saxon world and its balance of freedom, order, truth, and morality in the public and private spheres. The American experiment as described by Alexis de Tocqueville is particularly instructive, according to Benedict!

American conservatives who are seeking the restoration of the old Republic and authentic constitutional government should take heart. What we are seeking is what the pope says Europe should be seeking to find their way back to the right road. American conservatives, whether Protestant or Catholic, are in the vanguard of history.

Note to the Reader: Since writing this essay, I discovered that Pope Benedict has identified yet another way that the West has gone wrong. The postmodern West has separated truth from culture. The result is cultural relativism, which is the triple fallacy that: 1) man has no nature, but is a cultural construct, 2) all cultures are equally valid, and 3) “truth” is culturally determined. A separate essay will be needed to deal with the myth of multiculturalism that is based upon this triple fallacy
(bold emphasis mine).

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There seems to be trend among all the Word-Faith “wavers” their personal life is a complete train wreck. Discerning people all knew that the whole Todd Bentley circus act was all presumption or deception as are the older circus ringmasters like Benny Hinn.

Now we hear this cop out that those that lacked discernment did so because of their raw zeal for God. Come on! These acts have been going on for more than thirty years in the Word-Faith arena. You lack discernment because you do not know the word of God and you continually need new mystical tinkly feelings and magic shows to make you feel a relationship with God that you should have got from learning sound doctrine and fellowship with Him.

You also put men on pedestals, call them anointed and will not listen to anyone who speaks words of correction toward the men you worship. Well maybe it is time you realized that they are not anointed prophets, healers and miracles workers. They are circus performers and all those attending either paid admission or they are one of their clowns.

I guess at least Lee Grady of Charisma Magazine finally agrees with what I said a few months ago to those attending these freak shows. It time for Word-Faith Christians that are following these circus performers to finally grow up. Or will another act just soon start up somewhere else? I will bet on the later.

Evangelist Bentley stepping down (OneNewsNow.com)

In a recent article in Charisma magazine on the meetings, editor Lee Grady said many of those who defended Bentley displayed a “lack of discernment,” in part because of a “raw zeal for God.

“Many of us would rather watch a noisy demonstration of miracles, signs, and wonders than have a quiet Bible study,” the Christian journalist wrote. “Our adolescent craving for the wild and crazy makes us do stupid things. It’s way past time for us to grow up.”

Grady also criticized GodTV for telling people that any criticism of Bentley was “demonic.”

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“The Shack”, by William P. Young is still a hugely popular and very deceptive book that is likely to become a movie. Those that believe there is a Christian message or theme in this book are totally deceived and must not believe biblical doctrine themselves at all. The book presents another God, another Christ, and another path to salvation. “The Shack” really promotes “New Age” all paths Universalism much like A.A. which itself was founded by a man who got messages from the occult. The book is blasphemous toward God presuming to speak for God while actually promoting a “Queen of Heaven” type God that does not exist.

This pluralistic theme where many paths lead to the same God is now being promoted everywhere thanks to A.A., other 12 step programs, and the postmodern redefining of Christianity by high profile religious and secular media figures. Nevertheless, no true Christian should be sucked into such an unbiblical “New Age” postmodern concept. There is only one way to the Father (not the mother) according to the teaching of the only God/Man that ever walked the earth. That way is only through Jesus Christ as He is defined in the Bible and not as Jesus is redefined in the light of “New Age” demonic darkness.

Any Christian leader promoting “The Shack” should be immediately removed from their position because they are promoting doctrines of demons and the lie of the adversary that leads people to Hell.

Christian Worldview Network - Brannon Howse - The Shack is A.A.’s higher power.

According to the author, the god of The Shack dwells in everybody, and apparently does not condemn any to eternal punishment—or, as The Shack would address this, “She does not punish anyone.” The novel’s “christ” is the “best way” to salvation, but apparently not the only way.

What about Alcoholics Anonymous? The A.A. Big Book states, “We found that God does not make too hard terms with those who seek Him. To us, the Realm of Spirit is broad, roomy, all inclusive; never exclusive or forbidding to those who earnestly seek. It is open, we believe, to all men. When, therefore, we speak to you of God, we mean your own conception of God.”[19] According to the A.A. Big Book, God is “deep down within us.”

Thus are the seeds of the New Age planted in the soil of both The Shack and Alcoholics Anonymous. The tentacles of various heresies are reaching out and linking. The false “christ” of The Shack seems poised to be welcomed into, or serve as a catalyst for, emergent/contemplative/12 Step Spirituality.

Many Christians have superimposed their beliefs upon The Shack, supposing it a novel written by a Biblical Christian. As James De Young and others have pointed out, this is not necessarily the case. Over the decades, many Christians have also jackhammered their God into AA’s anti-Biblical system

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The article I link to in this post says a lot and not just about contemplative prayer. It explains the demonic deceptions that are going on in many churches today in the name of being relevant to our postmodern society. I doubt that there are many large evangelical churches that are not to some extent being negatively influenced by this by either the pastor, some assistant pastor or one or more lay leaders. Certain influential national leaders are mixing various amounts of poison wrapped in Christian speak and Christian sounding programs and many are buying into their deadly deceptions because they never hear any biblical counter argument.

Someone needs to form an expense paid national conference for top pastors and evangelical leaders where they would hear the arguments of authors like John MacArthur, Roger Oakland, Dave Hunt, Bob DeWaay etc. to educate the church leadership on the doctrines of demons now being introduced in most large churches. Then the conference should be put on a internet site and on DVD and a copy should be given to all lay leaders in the church. We need some some Christian foundation or a group of discerning churches to fund this. If certain churches can put together postmodern rethinking and shifting conferences you would think that someone could also put together a biblical thinking conference to counter them.

Beware of This Doctrine of Demons

It’s called “contemplative” or “centering” prayer and if you haven’t heard about it yet, chances are unfortunately good that you will soon. It’s invading churches like a virus in which submicroscopic pathogens contaminate the body many hours or days before the victim is aware of its presence.
Contemplative prayer is one of a number of ancient mystical practices or spiritual disciplines, as their proponents refer to them, which are being encouraged at an alarming rate by evangelical churches. It is all part of something called Spiritual Formation and the Emergent Church, a movement that as John MacArthur states in his book, The Truth war, is subtly changing the beliefs and doctrines of the evangelical church as we know it.

In its pure form, contemplative prayer is practiced by sitting still, quieting, and concentrating on your breathing and repeating a word of choice (maybe the name Jesus, for instance) over and over again. You’re to concentrate on that word and your breathing, and work to eliminate all thoughts from your mind. Over a period of maybe 20 minutes — and with practice — you can enter into “the silence.” Your mind is blank. You have, in fact, hypnotized yourself. And it is in “the silence” where “God” allegedly speaks to you.

According to the testimony of one former, now-redeemed New Ager I recently read this is the exact method used by New Agers and Eastern mystics to enter an altered state of consciousness that opens a person up to demonic influence. Ray Yungen, author of the book, A Time of Departing, confirms this and says, “Unknown to most people, a blank mind in a meditative state is all that is necessary for contact with a spirit guide.” He also points out, “Those who lack discernment are at great risk.”

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