What a totally bazaar concept “lost Christians”? This is an oxymoron!  If these “Christians” have lost their faith in the Bible, the church and Christian beliefs then they are not “lost Christians” they are not Christians!

Thirty-one million people have left these churches because they were never believers they were just cultural Christians. It is happening in the U.S., Canada and Europe because many of the mainline churches in the West do not teach or practice biblical Christianity. All they have is denominational rituals. They baptize people into the church as babies and then they call them Christians. Then when they grow up and leave they say they are “lost Christians. It is nonsense, they were never Christians at all.

What is happening is that once these social Christians no longer feel social pressures from parents or spouses to stay they leave. Others leave when they lose faith in their warped concept of the Church, the Bible or God. The reason they leave Christianity is because they never had Christian faith in the first place. The reason why they leave your church might be because they never received salvation there.

There are no “lost Christians” Millions of people are leaving their churches because they never entered the one true spiritual Church in the first place - the body of Christ. If you church leaders really want to do something about it preach the gospel of salvation to your own congregations and preach them the whole counsel of God and start to practice biblical Christianity instead of just giving your congregation some psychology lesson or feel good message during a Sunday ritual service.

Dave Samford obvious does not even know what a true Christian is. His term seems to be anyone who even attended a Christian church. He then suggests they we bring those that leave back into this strange concept of Christian faith by fixing their hurt feelings and doubts about God. No, these people only will come to Christ when you give them the true Gospel of salvation and for the first time in their lives they actually believe it.

‘Lost’ Christians Greatest Crisis in American Church, says Author | Christianpost.com

PORTLAND, Ore. - The inability of the church to discuss a topic that has become taboo among many Christians is one of the root causes why millions of Americans are leaving the church and never to return, says one author.

There are “Christians who have experientially lost their faith” but have no one to turn to since church culture shuns the topic, Dave Samford said Thursday.

It’s not that these Christians lost their salvation, but that they have lost their faith in the Bible, the church and Christian beliefs, said the author, who was addressing attendants at the annual convention of the Evangelical Press Association in Portland, Ore.

Over 31 million Americans are part of this exodus from the church, Samford said, citing a Barna Group study.

“Any business that is losing 31 million customers is going out of business,” he told a room of Christian journalists and editors. “[It] is the greatest crisis among Christians today in the U.S., Canada and some parts of Europe…We must break the silence in our publications.”

We need to support those who are fighting against the evil forces that are destroying this nation

Support our troops in the moral war

Years ago, I read George Orwell’s “1984″ and doubted that the warped, inside-out and upside-down world he described could be possible in America. But now, we’re approaching it at warp speed.

The “thought police” are here and moving into every area of our society. “Big Brother” government is not fully in evidence yet, but a couple of presidential candidates seem hopeful of ushering it in, promising that all our needs will be met and all our problems solved – by a bloated, all-powerful benevolent “Big Brother” government.

Meanwhile, multitudes of “minority” groups and legal organizations are mounting assaults against virtually every moral restraint. People who don’t want anything to be considered wrong or forbidden are finding lawyers and even judges who will agree with them and enact laws from the bench – though our Constitution provides them no such authority.

Its about time that some national organization stood up against the unconstitutional decrees of the IRS. If the IRS wants to go to court on this issue lets go at it. The IRS will lose. The fact that no one has ever lost tax-exempt status for what they preached from the pulpit is evidence that they do not want a court fight. They would just rather bully everyone into compliance. It is time that this self censorship by Christians stopped and now you have a national organization that will defend you if the IRS revokes your tax-exempt status.

Pastors called to defy IRS censorship rules

Christian pastors should stop censoring themselves in fear of an “unconstitutional” 1954 provision in the IRS code that has threatened to eliminate their church tax-exempt status if they speak out against positions held by political candidates, urges a leading legal alliance.

The Alliance Defense Fund today announced a new initiative that will challenge the IRS ban on political comment from churches and their pastors.

“Churches have for too long feared the loss of tax exempt status arising from speech in the pulpit addressing candidates for office,” the ADF’s white paper on the campaign confirmed. “Rather than risk confrontation, pastors have self-censored their speech, ignoring blatant immorality in government and foregoing the opportunities to praise moral government leaders.

“ADF believes that IRS restrictions on religious expression from the pulpit, whenever the IRS characterizes it as ‘political,’ is unconstitutional. After 50 years of threats and intimidation, churches should confront the IRS directly and reclaim the expressive rights guaranteed to them in the United States Constitution,” the group said.

The bird flu is still a future disaster waiting to happen. The threat of a world pandemic has not gone away

Risk of bird flu pandemic probably growing | U.S. | Reuters

GENEVA (Reuters) - The risk of a human influenza pandemic remains real and is probably growing as the bird flu virus becomes entrenched in poultry in more countries, health officials warned on Tuesday.

Some 150 experts are attending a meeting hosted by the World Health Organization (WHO) to update its guidance to countries on how to boost their defences against a deadly global epidemic.

The European Union plans to open their own embassies worldwide. This is just one more major step to a federalized European superpower that Daniel indicated would rise out of the area of the Old Roman Empire in the last days.

EU plans international embassies - Telegraph

The European Union will open its own embassies under a plan critics fear represents a “power grab” by Brussels officials pushing for a federal superstate.

The secret plan represents the first time that full EU embassies have been discussed seriously.

The “Embassies of the Union” would be controlled by a new EU diplomatic service created by the Lisbon Treaty.

This is a good interview of Potkin Azarmehr an Iranian pro-democracy activist. He does not see an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities as being a big problem with the majority of the Iranian people but he warns that we must not leave the Mullahs in power if we do so.

FrontPage Magazine

Potkin Azarmehr, an Iranian human rights and pro-democracy activist, joined me for an interview that I did for FrontPage Magazine. He is a representative of the Confederation of Iranian Students and Graduates in the United Kingdom, a member of the Azerbaijani Movement for a United Democratic Iran, and a member of the Iranian Enterprise Institute. He has appeared on CNN, Voice of America, BBC, Sky News, and Al-Jazeera. Mr. Azarmehr also recently participated in the Struggle for Democracy in the Islamic World conference in Rome and was an official guest of the U.S. State Department on the first tour of America for Iranian expatriates since the Iranian Revolution in 1979. You can read his blog at http://azarmehr.blogspot.com.

Bono, Rick warren, Schuller, Bill Hybells, George Bush, Obama, and many others and most of the Emerging Church movement shape shifters all believe in pluralism and universalism while claiming to be Christians. Their Christianity is really religious dominionism. They want to use religion, government, media and the power elite to bring in total world governance and establishment of their idealist earthly utopia in the name of their higher power. What they will actually bring in will be the Antichrist figure who will claim to fulfill all the expectations of religions. The harlot woman is about to ride the Beast.

Bono, Universalism, and the Emerging Church? - CWN

On Relevant Magazine’s website, Tara Leigh Cobble gives an interesting report of what she says she witnessed at a Bono concert:

About five songs into their set, Bono stopped the show and strapped on a headband with writing on it. I stared up at the JumboTron to see that the handwritten lettering said: COEXIST.

Coexisting sounds like a great idea. I fully support the peaceful philanthropy that Bono has encouraged, and this seemed like another way that he was trying to spread the message.

Except, it started to feel like more than a political message. The “C” in “coexist” was the Islamic crescent moon, the “X” was the Star of David, and the “T” was the cross of Christ. Bono pointed at the symbols on his headband—first to the cross, then to the star, then to the crescent moon—and he began to repeat:

“Jesus, Jew, Mohammed—all true. Jesus, Jew, Mohammed—all true.”

He repeated the words like a mantra, and some people even began to repeat it with him. I suddenly wanted to crawl out of my skin.

While some at the concert dispute exactly what Bono said, media outlets have reported Bono wearing the Coexist logo.

http://www.newsobserver.com/105/story/379359.html

The Coexist logo is certainly about promoting the worldview of pluralism and universalism. Pluralism is the belief that all religions are equal, and universalism is the belief that all religions are true and everyone will be saved because all roads lead to God.

The worldwide acceptance of pluralism and universalism will eventually lead to a one-world religion as discussed in the Bible. However, it appears that not everyone is opposed to the Coexist message. Who am I talking about? Well, it happens to be the Emerging Church. In the words of Gomer Pile I say, “Surprise! Surprise!”

I agree with what Steve Camp says in this article but have two statements and one observation on what he said. I observe you made a comment on Christian bloggers making revenue by putting advertising on their blogs as if this is wrong. Then I observe that you posted your article on a website that has many advertisements on both sides of your article?

My statement is that many bloggers and websites ministries that present Christian material are working full time at it and I think they have a right to try to make some income to support themselves and their families. Thank God that most of us have other sources of income because advertising revenue for most websites and blogs would hardly cover the Internet expenses yet support the Internet ministry staff and their families. I do not advertise myself or ask for donations because I have independent income but others are not so fortunate. If most of these full time Internet ministries were not supported by advertisement or donations they could not exist. So keep that in mind before you are so critical that some Christian bloggers advertise.

Also let me say something about the Christian Book stores you slam. They are a business, the owners are not theologians nor do they have the time to go through each book to see if it meet someone’s heresy test. This business is one where it is now very difficult to make a living at since the most popular books are being sold in secular superstores cheaper. The stores mainly stock what Christians buy and ask for. Perhaps the blame should be placed on the ignorance and the heretical and air headed tastes of those who shop in Christian bookstores and not on those owners who have to fulfill the wishes of its customers to stay in business.

Having said all that, your article on Spiritual Treason still is a worthy read.

Beware of the Subtlety of Spiritual Treason - CWN

Keeping the Lord Jesus Christ preeminent in all that we do in ministry is at great tension today. Pragmatics seem to be the official plumb-line that most use to measure the effectiveness of their local church and/or public ministry. The definition for successful ministry has been dumbed-down to one thing: numbers.

Consider this:
Some emerging churches justify their scatological and irreverent techniques due to the number of people they claim to add to their fold under a neoreformed banner. Their acceptance by blinded evangelical leaders to their popularity is their stamp of approval - not the Word of God. Christian bookstores will knowingly carry everything from faulty translations of the Bible, to unsound doctrinal authors, plus Christian-trinkets; and will justify doing so for pragmatic and bottom line considerations. It is the same reasoning used by the CCM companies and Christian book publishers for selling their entities to nonbelievers. They have become “unequally yoked” in a spiritual ministry or enterprise with unsaved people; but will do cartwheels to justify surrendering their spiritual autonomy for the sake of widening their distribution to increase revenue… though Scripture forbids it (2 Cor. 6:14-7:1)..

Such is the time we live in; what works in the marketplace, not what is true, rules the day in today’s commerce-driven evangelicalism. Even Christian bloggers are now selling advertising space on their blogs to generate some kick-back revenue from those they advertise. Making retail of the truth is done with the blink of an eye these days beloved. And here I was naive enough to think that the blogosphere was actually going to be the last pure commercial free arena for the proclamation of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and doctrinal discussion. The evangelical pragmatists seem to win every time.

This faulty methodology has now given way to the acceptance of unsound theology; because the audience (not the Savior nor the Scriptures) is the new “sovereign” in Christian ministry (I.e. consider the embracing of an anti-Trinitarians like T.D. Jakes and Phillips, Craig and Dean. Their market influence has trumped biblical truth even among those who know them to be in error.)

This is a very well written article on why pastors should not be promoting 12 step programs like AA. I wrote my own article on this subject a while back that says much the same things. You will find it in the New Evangelicals and post-modern psychobabble section of a much larger article I wrote on Dominion theology and where it will lead the church. There are a couple of good reference links on my piece. One is on the founders of AA, Bill Wilson, who was a real nut case. Also read the below article it gives additional insights.

A perfect example of a graduate of a 12 step program is President George Bush. He solved his alcoholism but now embraces Universalism where many religious that deny Christ lead to God.

Alcoholics Anonymous: Pluralistically Praying unto the Higher Power - CWN

T.A. McMahon sums it up very well: “AA’s official biography indicates Bill Wilson received the details of the 12 Steps through spirit dictation. Does anyone see a simple, idolatrous problem here? But what about evangelicals just using the methodology the familiar spirit gave to Bill Wilson? Simple again: God condemns the source, and the approach is contrary to the way He wants to transform our lives. Furthermore, why turn to such a spiritually toxic system? Where are the evangelical pastors’ heads in this?”[10]

Pluralism is here. Worshiping with non-believers is here. It has gone far beyond the National Day of Prayer. It is a daily occurrence at 12 Step meetings throughout the entire country.

I would not doubt that you will soon see a change of position on homosexuality in one or more of these churches. Many of the church members have already been brainwashed by their employers and media. With that in mind the biblical illiterate will shift their thinking. By the way, that is most of the people that call themselves Christians.

Soulforce Marches On To Churches and Christian Colleges To Normalize Homosexuality - CWN

starting this Sunday, Mother’s Day, Soulforce begins a month-long campaign targeting select churches. They have multiple purposes including trying to convince pastors and people that their interpretation of the verses in the Bible condemning homosexuality are misconstrued. They are also there to cause unmitigated mischief.

Please be aware that none of these churches have invited Soulforce. The organization couldn’t care less about invitations. They fill up their busload of young people and storm uninvited into schools and other establishments and this spring and summer the targets are churches.

Calling this “adventure” the “American Family Outing,” Soulforce will enter Lakewood Church (Joel Osteen), The Potter’s House (T.D. Jakes), Saddleback Church (Rick Warren), Willow Creek Community Church (Bill Hybels), Hope Christian Church (Harry Jackson), and New Missionary Church (Eddie Long). Again Soulforce has not been invited, but these churches aren’t turning them away.

What can be more hypocritical than a so called friend that is doing everything possible to destroy you? Before this war on terror ends we will have to deal with Saudi Arabia. I am convinced that by propping up this evil royal family we are doing great harm to the world.

I hate to be blunt but if I were in charge I would give the Saudi Arabian ruling thugs an ultimatum. You either quit fighting against us through subversion and extortion or our cruise missiles will take the war on radical Islam to their own mansions and yachts. They think they are immune from any threat because they black mail us with oil but one aircraft carrier group in just 20 minutes could send the entire ruling family to their just reward and probably have no impact on oil production. Perhaps you might think that an attack on this government would be unjustified. However, how many millions across the world have been killed because of funding from these Saudis? How many more are being brainwashed by their clerics that will lead to a greater slaughter in the future? Who knows, after the ultimatum is given they may even decide to modify their ways so we may not have to use the big stick we carry by the grace of God.

If not, once the royal family is out of the way the people who take power may think twice about further antagonizing us. The majority of the Saudi people might even thank us for getting rid of the greedy evil despots that were continually oppressing them and robbing them. If they continue to hate us at least we will know our enemies our are enemies and we will not continue to act like our worst enemy is our friends. It is absurd!

FrontPage Magazine

WANT to know a key reason why you’re being robbed at the gas pump? Well, my fellow Americans, you’re being punished - for giving Iraqis a chance at democracy.

The Saudis ordered President Bush not to remove Saddam. The last thing that the despotic bigots in Riyadh wanted was change in the Middle East - especially change that empowered common men and women, Shia Arabs and Kurds.

But our president believed that the Saudis were not only America’s friends, but his personal pals. He defied our Saudi masters. Silly him.

These past several years, the furious Saudis have been perfectly willing to help the new Iraq fail, hoping a disaster would lead back to rule by a Sunni Arab strongman. But the Iraqi government’s starting to look like a going concern, after all.

So our president’s old pals are teaching us a lesson - by limiting oil supplies.

The greatest modern tragedy for the Arab world wasn’t European imperialism. It was who got the oil money: inbred desert barbarians with a zero-sum mentality about heaven and earth. The stunningly hypocritical Saudis (they could teach Eliot Spitzer plenty about top-flight hookers) have used their wealth to cut out Islam’s heart. The faith of Mohammed, peace be upon him, has no greater enemies.

In this fight, we Americans, and Muslims around the world who cherish their faith, should stand united against the Saudis.

In the heat of the moment, Iran appears to many to be our worst enemy in the Middle East. While the nut house government in Tehran is a deadly problem, it’s ultimately one of lesser scale. Our greatest enemy, anywhere, is Saudi Arabia, the cradle of terror.

Carla at “More Books and Things” put together some good information and links on modern day false prophets such as Rick Joyner, Bob Jones, Mike Bickle, Paul Cain, and Benny Hinn. She also mentions and has links on Todd Bentley’s book “The Journey into the Miraculous” and Carla lets us find out what Jim Goll is saying. This is really pretty twisted stuff.

Like I have indicated before, the spiritual deception is not just coming from New Age teachers like Oprah. It is coming from the Emergent leaders and Word-Faith. You need to read the article and follow the links to begin to understand how fast this end time deception is taking shape. The intention is a religious paradigm shift toward a pantheistic spirituality to deceive the world. These movements use the name of Christ but they all reinvent Jesus Christ.

More Books and Things…: Bentley Book

Don’t know if anyone has been watching some of those crazy clips from the big new revival down in Florida. They say it’s another Toronto Blessing thing. And that’s a big deal…just look at the effects of the last one. Well, I have been quite horrified with some of the things I’ve been seeing

So it looks like it IS all converging…contemplative prayer, mysticism, different streams, New Age, and now the signs and wonders movement is converging into this same stream, with Bentley and his out of body experiences, angelic visitations, manifestations of kundalini serpent power symptoms, third heaven visions and visits with “jesus” with the Bambi eyes. Give me a break! Who would have ever thought that the Silence and the old “Be Still” thing was going to connect them all together?

This article does a real good job putting Oprah’s New Age promotions, Word-Faith and postmodern “Christianity” in the same boat. Essentially they all are saying that we can create our own reality through our own thoughts, words or deeds because we are all part of the force. There is way too much good information in this article to just read my snippet of it so if you want to know all about this paradigm shift to the dark side, read Marsha West’s article.

Marsha West — Oprah Shifts to the Dark Side

Rhonda Byrne and Joel Osteen may have significant differences, but the one thing they agree on is that “You are the Master of the Universe, and the Genie is there to serve you.” For Byrne the Genie is the Law of Attraction. For Osteen the Genie is God.

My reason for bringing up Word-Faith teaching is to show its similarities to the New Age movement. Actually, New Age movement is a tired old term. Devotees prefer “New Spirituality” or just plain “Spirituality.” Another term is Cosmic Humanism. No matter how you couch it, it’s Eastern mysticism.

New Agers outright reject the Jesus of the Bible and have adopted a Cosmic Christ. Who is this Christ? “In esoteric schools of thought, the Christ is considered to be a universal spirit or a cosmic force. The primary goal of this impersonal spirit or force is to guide the spiritual evolution of mankind.”[10]

As I brought to light in my article on ECM, New Agers are not the only ones who believe there is a paradigm shift taking place. Some Christians believe it, too. As a consequence “everything must change.”

“There is a growing movement afoot in the postmodern Church that does not abide in God’s Word…The movement calls itself ‘Emergent’ or ‘Emerging Church’ (ECM

The article gives the connection from eugenics to world population control. The power elite want the earth to have far less people for the sake of the environment. The people they really want to limit are what they consider the genetically inferior underclass. Many of the world birth control polices are toward that end. The common people are so misled or oppressed that they either are forced to submit like the people in China or they are “educated” to support quantity control through birth control and abortion like inner city blacks and the poor in the U.S.

Eugenics and Environmentalism: From quality control to quantity control

Population control today - and the corresponding environmental movements - grew out of the post WWII shift from eugenics to Malthusian programs. The line connecting eugenicists to population control is unmistakable. Population reduction is being used by the elite as a weapon of war against competition, as an assurance of continued domination.

If you are buying into a “Emergent” or “Emerging Church” you are going to be led into pantheistic monism and universalism. Everyone in the Church needs to know about this rapidly growing movement because this is the apostasy that we were told would come in the last days.

Are You a “Shifter”? Does the Historic Gospel Message Need to be Repackaged? - CWN

Are you a “SHIFTER”? Do you follow Oprah Winfrey in her swooning free-fall into “planetary consciousness”? Do you “feel” the Christian message and belief system must be “repackaged” in order to be “relevant”, especially to the youth?

If you have answered “Yes” to any of the above, then you may be a candidate for the pantheistic and neo-pagan “Emerging Church” being promoted by authors like Tony Campolo, Jim Wallis and Brian McLaren – all of them extreme political liberals.

And since this group has redefined Jesus as a social activist, you may be on your way to HELL, which incidentally is a subject this “church” believes needs to be rethought and, probably eliminated from discussion.

Now a similar assault on historic orthodox Christianity is underway that’s gaining momentum. Some Christians believe a paradigm shift is taking place in the Church and as a consequence ‘everything must change.’…Professor Peter Jones of Westminster Seminary warned listeners that the Christian theistic West has been turning back to pagan, pantheistic monism. Many in contemporary western culture now hold to a pantheistic belief in the unity of nature and God, of body and spirit — all is One… The movement is largely eclectic with inspiration drawn from all the major world religions, which include Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, Shamanism, Wicca, the metaphysical New Thought movement, and Neo-Paganism, to name a few. The goal of NSM is a shift in ‘planetary consciousness.’ Their focus is not only on the West but also on the entire planet!…We are in the middle of the biggest social transformation in history, THE SHIFT.’”

Gee, someone actually agrees with what I say about this sacred cow of Christianity. Most science is corrupted by deceptive philosophies of the world in one way or another and does not mix well with Christianity. Theories of Psychotherapy do not mix at all

“Dobson’s Law” has always agreed with Robert Schuller - CWN

In response to recent articles concerning Shirley Dobson’s commendation of the ministry of Robert Schuller, I must confess there is no surprise here. Nothing has contributed more to the current preoccupation with self than the propagation of the psychological gospel. And perhaps no man has popularized this man-centered approach to Christianity more than radio psychologist, James Dobson. Setting aside any question of his sincerity (man cannot judge the heart), it must be recognized, however, that his media ministry has been more responsible for spreading the false gospel of self-esteem, self-love, self-respect, and self-acceptance than many others. For over three decades

Just more speculative nonsense of trying to force events to fit prophecy. J.R. Church also wrote a book called prophecy in the Psalms where each first hundred psalms was supposed to be a year in the 20th century. Well it was total nonsense and what he wrote never happened. Yet, last I seen he still had the gall to keep selling this book.

When Jesus was talking about the sun turning dark and the moon becoming like blood it is highly unlikely that He was talking about solar/lunar eclipses. What Jesus and the prophets said was in conjunction with other very evident upheavals going on in the earth. The blood red moon events are possibly caused by a comet interacting with the earth since stars also fall from heaven at that time. I guess there is no rapture either in this speculation or it will take place this year. Don’t hold your breath or sell out and wait on some mountain top.
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Blood moon eclipses: 2nd Coming in 2015?

Will Jesus Christ return to Earth in the year 2015?

And can studying NASA’s website provide evidence for such a scenario?

A minister who promotes the Old Testament roots of Christianity suggests a rare string of lunar and solar eclipses said to fall on God’s annual holy days seven years from now could herald what’s come to be known as the “Second Coming” of Jesus.

Biltz says, “You have the religious year beginning with the total solar eclipse, two weeks later a total lunar eclipse on Passover, and then the civil year beginning with the solar eclipse followed two weeks later by another total blood red moon on the Feast of Succoth all in 2015.”

“If you think that this is a coincidence, I want you to know that it’s time!” exclaimed Prophecy in the News host J.R. Church. “There are no more of these for the rest of the century.”

The main problem with the Southern Baptists (I have been a member) is that most members no longer read their Bibles they read Lifeway articles about the Bible. They do not do Bible studies they do Lifeway magazine studies or studies based on the latest book of some popular Christian self help Guru. They do not have Bible teachers they have facilitators of Lifeway products. Don’t believe me? Take a show of hands at your Southern Baptist Church, Bible study or group and ask how many have ever read through the Bible even once in their lives. You might be surprised. Better yet, since “Christians lie through their teeth give your membership a quiz on the Bible and make them hand it in. I dare you! See if your congregation can even be called quasi biblically literate.

So is it any wonder why they buy fluff at Christian book stores and love self help books and the gnosticism written by postmodern heretics. How would they know any better? The owners of the book stores are just selling what people want in a very difficult business to survive in.

Half of the Southern Baptist membership are now given a watered down seeker sensitive sermon on Sunday so they do not even hear any biblical truth from their pastors. In churches with younger pastors many are now hearing a postmodern emergent church message that questions all biblical truth and replaces truth with post modern relativism and universalism. Why are Southern Baptist’s not questioning their teachers? Mainly because they never read or at least never understood their Bible.

The decline of the Southern Baptists is now inevitable. The question is, who will be taking their place? The answer in the South right now is probably no one. Less and less people are showing up regularly, the South is becoming full of cultural Christians.

I think the South is ripe for a major invasion of Calvary chapels. They should consider the south a major mission field. I just read a report that said the FBI reports that crime is higher in the Bible Belt then in most other areas in the nation” Is it any wonder?

Paul Proctor — Southern Baptists now in decline

And what about the books LifeWay offers on Contemplative Spirituality, aka, Spiritual Formation, from Emerging Church authors and leaders, many of whom reject absolute truth, downplay doctrine and encourage their readers to incorporate mantras and mysticism into their Christian walk?

One of the foremost authors and leaders of the Emergent movement, Brian McLaren, recently spoke at Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington, Illinois at the annual Shift student ministries conference. Here’s what the SBC’s own Baptist Press had to say about him:

McLaren’s views break harshly from traditional Christian theology that Jesus died on the cross as substitute for sinful humanity, taking the punishment that men and women deserved for their sin.

Yet, at this writing, his books are available for purchase at LifeWay Christian Stores.

I’m just scratching the surface here folks

Just one more step on the path to the universal mark of the Beast economic system. Soon they will link these to your bank account and you will not even need a debit card.

RFID Journal - - RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) Technology News & Features

April 28, 2008—VeriChip has launched a direct-to-consumer initiative known as Health Link, making its RFID system—previously branded as VeriMed—available to customers in South Florida’s tri-county area. For $149, a consumer can have a passive 134 kHz RFID chip, compliant with the ISO 11784 and 11785 standards, implanted in his or her arm, with the transponder’s unique 16-digit ID number linked to a database containing that individual’s medical records and, if they so choose, a living will.

VeriChip is partnering with hearing care provider HearUSA to make the chips available. With the system, consumers can call an 800 number for additional information.

Much of the church is missing Dr. Dobson’s mixed message because he tells them what they want to hear on issues of the family and morality but Dr. Dobson seems to be confused on many theological issues - from the evil of psychology in the Church, to soft dominionism to his confusion on Robert Schuller’s universalism.

I wrote an article that includes information on Dr. Dobson if anyone cares to read it. The major segment on Dobson is about half way down the article in the psychobabble section, also check the excellent link within for much more information.

Do The Dobsons and Focus on the Family Agree with the Emergent Church? - CWN

If Dr. Dobson and Focus on the Family are NOT in agreement with the Emergent Church then Dr. Dobson should release a letter stating that he does not agree with Emergent church leaders such as Dr. Robert Schuller and apologize for his wife’s appearance with Dr. Schuller on The Hour of Power and his VP’s appearance at Schuller’s conference.

Dr. Dobson should commit to hosting a series of programs on this fast growing cancer inside the church. Dr. Dobson could invite former Emergent Church pioneer, Jason Carlson on his program to expose the heresy of this Trojan horse in our camp.

I really wish that Dr. Dobson and Mrs. Dobson would join me in my opposition of the Emergent Church theology and not be praising one of its biggest leaders and promoters. At the conclusion of her interview with Dr. Robert Schuller, Mrs. Dobson says, “Thank you, thank you, thank you Dr. Schuller. God bless you and the good work you are doing here”

What? “God bless the good work you are doing here”? What good work is that, leading millions of people to hell with a false gospel? Really, I would like to know what good work she is talking about. Dr. Schuller promotes Universalism and I know the Dobsons do not agree with Universalism.

Why on earth would Mrs. Dobson appear on The Hour of Power and then ask God to bless “the good work” Schuller is doing? FOTF and the Dobson’s have nothing to gain by cooperating with Schuller, but they do have their credibility to lose with discerning, conservative, Bible-Believing Christians.

World food supplies are getting tight. The black horse seems to be on the horizon, Who knows exactly how close the white and red horse are that start this horse race to the end are?

Behold a Black Horse: The Global Food Crisis - CWN

This situation has not received enough media attention, prompting some to label it the “silent famine.” Malnutrition and hunger are growing problems, and charitable organizations are having trouble keeping up with the growing demand. The black horseman of the Book of Revelation speaks of a condition wherein a man’s daily wages are so poor, he can barely support himself, much less his family (Revelation 6:5-6). Could it be that we are getting close?

How incredibly undiscerning! Janet Folger is now teaching us Word of Faith Theology. She obviously is a believer in heretical Dominion theology. The link will give you more of my take on that theology.

Folger implies that Jesus lost the keys of the kingdom of heaven and had to die to get them back from Satan.
What heretical nonsense. Jesus never lost the keys of the kingdom of heaven. What kind of God would lose his keys? The keys Jesus gave the Church is authority in the spiritual realm in the spiritual kingdom of heaven. Even Jesus has not yet bound Satan on earth and taken authority on the earth because the timing of that is set by the Father alone. There are some still to be saved out of this world before judgment and the earthly kingdom is set up.

If what Folger said was true why did not the 12 apostles just take authority, bind Satan and set up the earthly kingdom instead of letting the world kill them. Gee, we Christians could of had total control of the earth for almost 2000 years if they only understood things the way Word Faith preachers do. Why do not two Christians anywhere just bind all the forces of Satan on earth and establish dominion? Why don’t Janet Folger just get together with Kenneth Copeland and try it? Why are you blaming us that your own prayers are not getting answered? Jesus said it would only take two if Jesus really meant what you imply.

We have no dominion on the earth because we are sinners and cannot administer this earth with justice. Dominion does not mean ownership, God owns the earth. After man sinned God put the earth under the administration of angels until the justice and sin problem is taken care of. (Satan just happens to be the chief angel in charge watching over this creation and he continually reports our unworthiness to have dominion on the earth.)

The keys of the kingdom of heaven do not give us ownership of a world living in sin it gives us standing in the kingdom of heaven as priests to carry out the will of the King. Obviously God’s will is not to bring a world of sinners into the kingdom that He will establish on the earth.

What title deed to the earth is Janet talking about? God does not give out title deeds to His creation. Where in scripture anywhere does it say that man was given a title deed to the earth? Man did not lose something he never had and Jesus did not die for any title deed. Jesus already had the title deed of everything as the Creator. Jesus died for our sins not for fake titles. And Jesus did not then give some abstract title deed to the planet back to man only to have him lose the title by default back to Satan by Christians not doing what they should have. That is what many Word Faith preachers teach. Then they say the Latter Rain, New Wave anointed elite (themselves) have to come and confront Satan and take the title of earth back again and bring in the physical kingdom on earth before Jesus can even come back. This Kingdom Now, Latter Rain, Manifest sons of Destiny Theology is totally absurd. It is not Christian doctrine. It is loony.

Jesus taught us to pray that God’s will be done on earth as it is in heaven and we are still praying for that because God has not brought in the Kingdom on earth yet like it is in heaven. It is like praying for the peace of Jerusalem, you should pray for that end but you cannot bring it in before God’s own timing. Only when Jesus comes back will God’s will be done on earth as it is in heaven and will there be true peace in Jerusalem.

Pslam 2:8 in context is talking about the Son of God, not Christians. He will give the nations to Jesus Christ but the timing is in the Fathers hands. Ripping it out of context as some promise to the betrothed bride that has not even been given gifts and awarded leadership positions and that are not yet fully prepared or fully completed in the body to be formally married to the King yet in the Father’s eyes is beyond presumption, it is arrogance. We will rule and reign with Jesus on earth when He is given David’s throne on earth and not before.

You asked what we have faith for? We have faith in the hope of Jesus fulfilling all His promises. We have faith that what we hear God tell us will be fulfilled, but we do not have faith to presume that your own wishes for the earth are from God. That is presumption.

Janet Folger said she would like to start by taking our own country back? She implies that Christians had dominion over America and lost it. She implies that the U.S. was a Christian nation. When was that? Do they not teach history in schools anymore? This nation had one wickedness after another throughout its history along with any good. Perhaps the best periods were right after major wars but that always is the case because wars remove many of the violent evil people from the earth. In any case, you cannot take a nation back for Christ that was never won for Christ. I do not even know a city or a town that was totally won for Christ. In order to do that you would have to oppose all who do not see things your theological way. The world already has a history of cities, nations and empires trying to take it for their version of Christianity. Was that good? Is that what you are suggesting for America. A Holy American Empire with Word of Faith preachers ruling on the throne? I think I do not want to be part of that America. Their Jesus is too much like the Jesus of Oprah. So you better get your burning stakes ready for me.

Occupy to Jesus comes means to live here in the world in whatever state you find yourself in. It does not mean to take it over. Remember Jesus promised the Church persecution in the world not a national or world utopia.

Your whole premises is flawed and why would you need us to help anyway. You and Copeland can do it all yourself. After all, you claim if two or more ask for anything in Jesus name it will be done for you. According to your own theology nothing can stop you. So stop whining and get started!

Ugh!

Stop whining and take dominion!

Of course, Jesus said (essentially), “No deal.” Satan was running the place, but when Jesus took the punishment our sins deserved on the cross and rose again, Jesus “got the keys back.” He reconciled us to himself and handed them over to us as he said in Matthew 16:19:

And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

With the keys Jesus gave us, we have authority, responsibility, access and ownership. Which brings us back to “Plan A” in the first chapter of Genesis where God told us to “have dominion over & every living thing that moves on the earth.”

With the title deed and the keys we’ve been given, we now can take dominion as was the original plan and see God’s will be done “on earth as it is in Heaven,” just like we’ve been praying in the Lord’s prayer all this time.

So, here’s my question. Just what do you have faith for? Psalm 2:8 says: “Ask of me, and I will give you the nations for your inheritance, and the ends of the earth for your possessions.” That sounds pretty good to me. I’d like to start with taking my country back. To “occupy” until He comes.

I’ve turned off the pundits to tap into the power. I want to know God’s heart enough to come into alignment with Him and start turning some keys and opening some doors. It’s time we take ownership and occupy the centers of influence and the areas of our culture Christians have vacated. It’s time we stop whining about how big the giants are and start coming back to “Plan A”: dominion. You have the keys. You have the title deed. What are you waiting for? Even the heaviest iron door doesn’t stand a chance.

Here is one great interview with Joel Rosenberg who gives his very astute view of end time events. His latest book is “Dead Heat”

CNN.com - Transcripts

ROSENBERG: Well I think eventually Rome will be the center of the E.U. How is that going to happen? I don`t know. There is a lot I don`t know. The point is the Bible laid out some details it doesn`t give us all the details.

BECK: Is it true that we — we haven`t bombed parts of Iraq because of, not only the historic significance, but the biblical significance of — of Babylon?

ROSENBERG: Babylon itself, Babylon is a province, it`s also a city, but there is no one living in current Babylon, it`s being reconstructed. There is no question American forces were very careful about bombing in the area. However there was some archaeological destruction as troops were coming in and out of there. That was a problem.

But I interviewed for my previous book, “Epicenter,” a nonfiction book, “Epicenter,” you and I have talked about it. I interviewed the chief economic adviser to the current prime minister of Iraq and I said “The New York Times” and others are reporting you have a plan to rebuild Babylon as a cultural epicenter. He said absolutely. He walked me through the plans they have to rebuild the city. They believe cultural tourism in Iraq will be the second largest money producer after oil, two, three, four, five years down the road.

Now, right now it`s almost impossible to imagine people going on a vacation to Iraq.

BECK: Oh, no. Come to Iraq. I mean .

ROSENBERG: I just went there. My family thought I was crazy, president of Crazytown. But look, the Bible says that is what will happen. People will come from all over the world. Revelation describes all the merchants of the earth are coming to Iraq. That`s not that far off I don`t think.

Do you find the statement by Vox Day below to be offensive and un-American? Read the article and follow his logic. There is more justification for the government doing what is said in the paragraph below then there there was in the government removal of all the children from their mothers after the questionable and possibly illegal raid on the YFZ ranch in Texas.

If this removal of children is allowed to stand what will stop the state from profiling religions to find some grounds to remove the children from their parents once national hate speech laws are passed that outlaw the teaching of certain fundamental doctrines of the Bible? The state will say that children should not grow up under parents who teach their kids about biblical morality and sin. In Waco the Feds said the children were abused so they took care of that problem. Here they say the children are in danger of abuse so they will farm them out to people and situations that will certainly abuse them and make them nuts, suicidal or rebellious radicals. Meanwhile the parents who had their kids taken away from them will join radical anti Government groups.

When are the people in Texas going to reign in this growing Big Brother threat before they help create more anti government radicals and sow the seeds for a new civil insurrection movement in this nation?

Class-action child removal

It is no secret that black children are born into familial situations that render them statistically far more likely to suffer crime, deprivation and sexual abuse than non-black children. Sixty-eight percent of black children are born illegitimate. Blacks are murdered 3.8 times more than their percentage of the American population would statistically indicate. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, an estimated 32 percent of male blacks will be imprisoned at some point in their lives. Black teens have a pregnancy rate of 134 per thousand. Given such a poisonous culture, how can the government authorities permit black parents to be allowed to raise black children?

Americans should find the punishment of hundreds of children and adults on the mere suspicion that one man may have committed a crime to be utterly abhorrent, even if that crime was committed against a child. For if this “legal” principle used to justify destroying the FLDS families is permitted to stand, there will be nothing to prevent it from being used against any family in America.

Many Christian leaders understand that moral relativism is a plague on society but for some reason they do not understand that this thinking originated from theories of psychology.

It also is no accident that psychology is now a major part of the education offered in many Bible colleges and seminaries. Is it any wonder then that leaders with majors and minors in psychology are now emerging out of these schools and are creating the Emergent Church movement.

They teach people to question and redefine what were once Christian absolutes. So now we have the emerging blind leading the blind that have already been brainwashed to accept moral relativism by their secular educators. Unless the church rejects these theories of psychology and the philosophies of the pagan world it will continue to slide into apostasy.

Many Christian leaders today use theories of psychology in their sermons, seminars and counseling sessions as if it were truth. No it is not! These so called truths originated from satanic men and are doctrines of demons.

For a good perspective on this read this excellent article.

American Thinker: Psychology: The Hard Truth about a Soft Science

Yet the problem with psychology is not just that those within the field may be peddling a relativistic creed, but that it has provided a specious scientific basis for relativism’s wider embrace. We now live in the age of “If it feels good, do it,” a maxim that is eminently logical if morals are really values and values are determined by man. Because of this, it is also the age of no accountability; after all, if right and wrong are merely opinion and thus don’t truly exist, how can anything I’ve done be wrong? Haven’t you heard, you provincial thinker, that you aren’t supposed to impose your values on me? Don’t you know I have my own “truth”? And, if nothing can be truly wrong, there is nothing to be accountable for.

For this reason, I might call psychology the science of why we not accountable. Think about it: Everything formerly labeled a sin is now diagnosed as a disease or condition of the brain. If you drink too much, it is simply because of your genetics or chemistry; if you’re an ill-behaved child, it may be ADHD; if you murdered your husband, you perhaps were in the grip of PMS; and the list goes on.

And even if, by chance, the accident that is you wound up with a well-functioning organic CPU, you’re still at the mercy of your environment (although the nurture argument seems to have lost weight in recent times). Sure, you robbed the convenience store, but you were simply programmed incorrectly by mommy, or perhaps daddy wasn’t there to provide the data that only XY org-robs can. It’s a variation on the “The Devil made me do it argument,

I also might say that mental health professionals have become the new priesthood. After all, whereas years ago people might have gone to a man of the cloth for guidance, now they are likely to lie on a therapist’s couch. The prescriptions they get are far different, too. A priest, minister or rabbi would usually render advice steeped in tradition and God-centered, but the psychologist is most likely to offer relativistic counsel, where the focus is on feelings and is thus self-centered.

And what happens when the matter of religion is raised? If you’re like many, including someone I know of, you may be told you’re taking your faith too seriously, that such devotion is akin to a mental illness. This isn’t surprising, I suppose. What future could a person have with an “illusion,” even the very attractive one that Freud seemed to believe was the opiate of the masses? Yet, with over 20 million Americans, 40 percent of college students and 1 out of 9 schoolchildren on psychiatrist-prescribed psychoactive drugs, one is left to wonder what realm is truly most deserving of that title.

The attitude with some is why do the study and work when you can just pull it off the Internet. Some just legally use the sermons of others all the time, they pay for them. I can see some part time pastors and pastors in a crunch using the material of others but when it is not original they should have to say so. Then if the church knows its is continually getting sermons of others they might replace this counterfeit teacher with an original.

Pulpit plagiarism a growing problem (OneNewsNow.com)

The book To Plagiarize or Not to Plagiarize? is an attempt to set boundaries in the wake of pulpit plagiarism claims that have hit not just Catholic clerics in Poland but ministers from other Christian denominations in the United States. Temptation is just the click of a mouse away as more and more churches post their sermons online, not to mention the availability of books and church-sponsored magazines that provide inspiration for sermons.

There is a thin line between drawing inspiration and lifting the text outright, said the Rev. Wieslaw Przyczyna, one of the book’s editors.

Make no mistake about it Oprah and Tolle are setting the foundation for the coming persecution of true believers in Jesus Christ and Jehovah. Their satanic religion promotes the removing of all those who will not become part of the One universal consciousness. They will intend to kill us for the sake of their satanically inspired community and think they will be doing us and the world community a favor by doing so.

This teaching is not new. It has always been the teaching of New Age for many decades. Tolle and Oprah have just used their influence to popularize it under a new cover. It has always been their answer for any Rapture as well. They will say the collective mind just removed the “Neanderthals” from the earth so the “spiritually enlightened” could evolve into a higher consciousness and bring utopia on the earth.

There will soon come a day soon when those deceived by people like Oprah and Tolle will get to carry out their plan. If you look at all of what else is going on globally to set the stage for these global agendas you should understand that it it will all happen in the lifespan of this generation.

‘Does Winfrey Ride The Beast?’ - Frederick Meekins - Apr 25, 08

More importantly, by undermining individuality as in the case of Hinduistic New Age spirituality (atman is brahman) by claming that we are just a temporary cellular manifestation of the One Consciousness, when the time comes those accustomed to this mindset won’t have all that much of a problem with mass roundups and ultimately executions of those doing nothing more that questioning the worldview of those holding power. After all, one does not lament the removal of an infected hangnail or the cutting of hair since such an act benefits the overall body — or as in the case of the global community — the One Consciousness as Tolle calls it.

Such wayward intellects, according to Tolle, have failed to evolve to the point of enlightenment and “identify only with their own physical and psychological form”. Thus, for the sake of the COMMUNITY, it is imperative that such impediments be removed. Besides, doing such really wouldn’t be wrong (a concept itself outdated and bigoted since transcendent absolute standards don’t exist anyway) since distinct individuals don’t really exist and by hastening their return to the universal consciousness one may in fact be doing them a favor by expediting them onwards towards their next incarnation.

Voices are slowly beginning to speak up about the child abuse of the children of the YFZ by the state of Texas. Yet, I have yet to hear from one nationally well known leader about this unconstitutional taking of children from mothers just because they can, and just giving them wasy to who knows what. Where are even the American patriots and the Libertarians? Why are they not sticking up for the people who have been kidnapped by the state.

Rest assured that all of these kids are now being abused by government and will continue to be abused in the homes and in the school environments they will be forced to submit to. If Texas actually has legal evidence of child abuse on the YFZ ranch (which I doubt) they should prosocute the men preying on these women and children not on the victims. There is more child abuse going on in any population that size in Texas than there was on the YFZ ranch and everyone in government knows it.

A legal precedence is being established here of state control over parents rights. When hate speech laws or home schooling bans are enacted under the next administration they could be coming for your kids as well and the case they will cite as legal authority to do so will be this one and it won’t just happen in Texas. So if you think this abuse of government power is good just because you did not like what the cult believed and if you think it will not effect you, you will soon find out differently when they come for your kids after they outlaw all fundamentalism.

They’re coming for your kids!

So how about it? Am I free to call the police anon, sic them on someone I dislike and then sit back and watch the show? Apparently so. At least in the kangaroo court of Judge Barbara L. Walther, for whom a tip from a complainant who never materialized constitutes probable cause.

The rules of evidence have been revised in post-constitutional America. If you thought that wrenching babes from their moms ought to be predicated on the testimony of a competent, credible witness, you were wrong. And you were utterly insane if you imagined the defendants ought to get to confront the witness against them in a trial before being punished.

That Sixth Amendment stuff is so yesterday.

In post-constitutional America, the right to be free of unreasonable searches and seizures certainly no longer applies uniformly. Ditto due process. Creepy people, for whom the goons in government have been gunning, are as good as convicted criminals. In the case of the FLDS cult’s kids, the burden of proof has been shifted from the state to its victims.

Rest assured, if these children have not yet been forced into premature sex, they most certainly will be once they hit the foster-care circuit. The nation’s foster parents, bless them, are not known for being upstanding professionals who collect strays out of kindness. Fagin on welfare is more like it. The famed character from Charles Dickens’ “Oliver Twist” also offered his young charges a “free meal” and “lodgings for nothing.”

Whatever are your voyeuristic fantasies about the sex romps on a polygamist commune, of this you can be certain: Relative to the loose, licentious, libertine and precarious foster-care environment, the children seized in the raid on the FLDS property have led a sheltered, chaste life. The gravest abuse still awaits them.

Paul Verhoevenand and co-biographer Paul Verhoevenand claimed to have written the most realistic portrayal of Jesus ever published. Yeah, like they were there and seen Mary get raped and know something about Jesus that history has not already revealed. The only reliable portrayals of Jesus are in the gospels from eye witnesses of those events given in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They have withstood ever test in contrast to these unorthodox blasphemies by demonic fools that reflect delusions of their sick minds. It might be laughable if people were not so gullible. This is just more blasphemy for the end times from the self enlightened haters of truth.

FOXNews.com - ‘Basic Instinct’ Director Paul Verhoeven: Jesus Was Son of Mary and Roman Rapist - Celebrity Gossip | Entertainment News | Arts And Entertainment

In his upcoming biography of Jesus, “Basic Instinct” director Paul Verhoeven will make the shocking claim that Christ probably was the son of Mary and a Roman soldier who raped her during the Jewish uprising in Galilee.

in addition to suggesting that the Virgin Mary may have been a rape victim, the book will also say that Christ was not betrayed by Judas Iscariot, one of the 12 original apostles of Jesus, as the New Testament states.

Catholic League President Bill Donohue called Verhoeven’s claim about Mary “laughable.”

“Here we go again with idle speculation grounded in absolutely nothing,”

Religious freedom like political freedom is now about dead in Putin’s new Russia. The state religion is Russian Orthodox. It is a church of blind ritual and no biblical means of salvation.

Protestants in Russia face Moscow’s antipathy - International Herald Tribune

First came visits from agents of the FSB, the successor to the KGB, who evidently saw a threat in a few dozen searching souls who liked to huddle in cramped apartments to read the Bible and, perhaps, drink a little tea. Local officials then labeled the church a “sect.” Finally, last month, they shut it down.

There was a time after the fall of Communism when small Protestant congregations blossomed here in southwestern Russia, when a church was almost as easy to set up as a general store. Today, this industrial region has become emblematic of the suppression of religious freedom under President Vladimir Putin.

Just as the government has tightened control over political life, so, too, has it intruded in matters of faith. The Kremlin’s surrogates in many areas have turned the Russian Orthodox Church into a de facto official religion, warding off other Christian denominations that seem to offer the most significant competition for worshipers. They have all but banned proselytizing by Protestants and discouraged Protestant worship through a variety of harassing measures, according to dozens of interviews with government officials and religious leaders across Russia.

This close alliance between the government and the Russian Orthodox Church has become a defining characteristic of Putin’s tenure,

This might be something to keep in mind. There are now weaponizing bugs. It almost sounds like this could have something to do with the fulfillment of Rev 9:10. More likely the Revelation event is all super national but if weaponized hybrid bugs are developed by man there is a remote possibility that what comes out of the smoke may have been first developed by man.

Unleashing the Bugs of War - TIME

The Agency’s Microsystems Technology Office is hard at work on HI-MEMS (Hybrid Insect Micro-Electro-Mechanical System), raising real insects filled with electronic circuitry, which could be guided using GPS technology to specific targets via electrical impulses sent to their muscles. These half-bug, half-chip creations — DARPA calls them “insect cyborgs” — would be ideal for surveillance missions, the agency says in a brief description on its website.

This article has a nice list of 54 reasons why your children really cannot afford to go to public schools at any cost.

Joel Turtel — Parents, 54 Unique Benefits of Homeschooling

Public schools can destroy your children’s self-esteem, destroy their ability to read, strangle their love of learning, put them in physical and moral danger, and wreck their future.

In contrast, here’s 54 unique benefits homeschooling can give you and your kids, as written and explained by Laura B., a smart, wonderful wife, mother of three, homeschooler, and business owner who works from home and still focuses on her family!

Homeschooling (or low-cost internet private schools), can have the following extraordinary benefits for you and your children:

I do not know why Willow Creek would allow this heretic to speak at their church. I take that back I think I do known why.

I challenge anyone who reads the Bible as written to tell me that this man has not redefined the scriptures to take away absolutes truths and replace them with stupid rationalizations. Tell me that he is not corrupting Christian youth with his heretical teaching. It is time that Christians quit making apogees for this very destructive heretic. His teachings are doing great harm to Christianity especially to the youth of the church.

So why is it that Christians in your church are mislead from his books and there is no warning about this wolf in sheep’s clothing and others emergent leaders like him coming from your pastor? If heretics are not refuted with sound doctrine why will the next generation in your church believe in any Christian absolutes?

There are so many warped views in this article about Brian Mclaren statements that It would take a small book to refute the nonsense. I will just say his views on the second coming must come from heretical dominionism or some social gospel because they sure are not founded on any truth taught in the scriptures.

Mclaren redefines scripture t