Economic collapse and world war may occur alongside coronavirus pandemic

Could world war be coming in addition to the economic downturn and the coronavirus pandemic? The Spanish Flu killed about three percent of the population on earth and it started during World War I. That flu killed many more people than did the war. One could argue that such happenings are a judgement from God. It does seem that God purges the earth occasionally to keep evil from totally taking it over. The reaction to the novel coronavirus is about to destroy all the economies of the Western World and evil dictators are likely to see the Western panic as their big opportunity.

In this dispensation of grace God wants all people to repent and believe in the Savior He sent. Even so, evil hinders the gospel at some point, so God occasionally allows resets. Even secular astute people have observed this trend and named the reset cycle the “fourth turning”. I do not necessary agree with the timing of the cycles expressed by them, but such reset cycles do seem to happen. They occur both on nations and on the general populations of the earth. I think the world started reaping the next reset cycle with the novel coronavirus but it probably will not end there. I think a world war is likely. Comet Atlas could even be the harbinger of the reset. Atlas could be brighter than Venus in late May.

Solomon wrote that there is a time for everything. What happened before will happen again. Evil has once again become much too prevalent on earth, it is hindering the gospel. Calamities may be allowed to get people to repent of their evils. This purge may be followed by another turning bringing a rise in moralism. That cycle would result in a new world order.

I think a number of specific things have to happen before the 70th week of Daniel can play out. One of those would be a revived Roman Empire. Another is that the woman that rides the Beast into power has to become great on earth. She must have great influence over the future new world order.

The little horn of Daniel is connected with Europe because it grows exceeding great toward the south, east and toward Israel. There are other prophecies that indicate that a leader from the area of the Roman Empire will become the Beast Antichrist.

The Harlot woman who rides the Antichrist into power (Rev 17) has to control religion in the end times. The Harlot becomes an ecumenical world religion led by the so-called “mother church” or “universal church”. This is the church of Rome at the Vatican.

The revived Roman Empire and the ecumenical Harlot in Rome could only happen after somehow there is a change in the world order. That means Europe must gain control over many North African and Middle East nations. Islam must somehow be modified and join with the Harlot. The only way that would happen anytime soon is through a world war where the militants of Islam are defeated and lose face.

With Iran and Turkey becoming more belligerent every day, we can already see why NATO will have to deal with the threat from the south.

The reaction to the novel coronavirus is about to all but destroy all the economies of the Western World. The bailouts and debt load will finish the demise that the shutdowns started. Iran and Turkey are likely to see this as their big opportunity to regain empires. The virus will also greatly impact Egypt and Saudi Arabia. They and other nations in the Middle East may have civil war. All this will allow militarized nations like Turkey and Iran to take advantage of the situation. Israel may join with NATO for protection.

China is not going to escape the economic impact of their own shutdown and the shutdowns of all the nations that had been buying their products. The Communists will have to change their nation’s focus to stop internal unrest. The unrest will occur because many people in China will be unemployed and receiving nothing but grief from their government. I suspect that the Chinese leaders will bring about a diversion in the South China Sea or by an invasion of Taiwan while America has its own problems at home and abroad. China might even persuade starving N. Korea to attempt an EMP on the U.S. They might even secretly give them the weapons and know how to carry out such an EMP attack. In any case, there would likely be an all out cyberattack on America attempting to shut America down.

With Europe and America in economic turmoil or even worse, Putin could see this as his great opportunity to accomplish his desire of reforming a soviet union. Russia might just walk into Belarus and Ukraine without much resistance from the West and then have eyes on Eastern Europe and nations south of Russia. War could also start between India and Pakistan and then spread. In this reset, war might also happen between Venezuela and Columbia and that could spread to other nations in South and Central America. Egypt and the Sudan could also go to war over Nile River water rights. In other words, this could be a many front world war like last happened in World War II.

By the end of the world war, there will be a whole new world order. The little horn of Daniel 8:9 will be controlling the areas of the old Roman Empire. The Vatican of Rome will be setting up an ecumenical religious new world order all over the world that eventually makes a covenant with Israel. It later will be confirmed by the Antichrist. Isaiah 28: 15-18 speaks of it.

Isa 28:15  Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

Isa 28:18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

I am not saying that this world war that is coming is any fulfillment of the Revelation seals, although that is remotely possible. I think it will just set the final stage for the Revelation events. This world war will bring about the revived Roman Empire and the fear of future war on earth will bring about a global ecumenical new world order where all religious fundamentalism would be outlawed for the false hope of peace. The overflowing scourge mentioned in Isaiah is the ecumenical world religion spreading all over the globe. Israel will believe a covenant with the Roman Harlot gives them a pass to practice their sacrificial religious system, but the Romans will soon force them to stop the daily sacrifice.

You will see the typical reset after the war. Authoritarian leaders will be in charge and permissiveness will likely be reigned in for awhile. The virus and the war probably will be followed by a moralist revival where religion will become more universal. Fundamentalism will become outlawed. The Evangelical movement for the most part will be taken over by progressive fascists. The growing persecution rising against those that hold to fundamental truths of the Bible actually could bring about God’s last call before the Rapture. Many will be saved in spite of the persecution. After the Rapture, the religious moralists are left behind without any Holy Spirit filled Church to influence them. It would in short order become tyrannical and become the self-righteous religious fascist system reflected in the wording of Isaiah 28, the fifth seal of Revelation and Revelation 17. From the new world order at some point a leader who later becomes the Antichrist appears on the stage and the Four Horsemen begin their ride.

With the government forced virus shutdowns all over the globe, you should already see that there is no real freedom in the world. Even so-called democratic nations take your rights away whenever the leaders wish. This in not something new under the sun, it happened all the time throughout world history. Our latest generations have no knowledge of world history. They actually thought our civilization has evolved past what has happened in the past. They are in for a big shock as they learn the truth the hard way.

There will be no quick remedy for the virus or the economic downturn it will bring. The pandemic is real and most in the world will catch it. The leaders are mostly trying to slow it down by keeping people away from one another. The virus cannot be stopped until most of the world catches it, or there is a vaccine. There is only a very small chance that this virus mutates and dies out.

The governmental cure already looks worse than the virus. Destroying the economy of the world is not going to save lives. Debts will not be paid and unemployment will become humongous. There will be uprising and lawlessness and people will start killing each other. The government leaders should have just focused on the hot spots instead of shutting down whole nations for months. The loss of civil liberties and jobs will not turn out to be a positive trade off.

I am fully aware that the medical system will be overwhelmed if the viruses is not slowed and then more would die. Even so, most of the world right now just needs good tests and self-quarantines for those testing positive. The virus hopefully will slow down all by itself toward the summer, but it could come back with a vengeance this fall. The hopeful news is that we are likely to have a number of medical breakthrough by late fall. We cannot shut down whole nations for a year because those already at high risk of dying from something else might get this virus.

Look at the hot spots in Italy, Spain and New York City for how bad it could get everywhere by this winter. If the second peak hits toward this winter, we will need double the hospital beds or death rates will climb much beyond expectations of one percent in the U.S. Getting the medical staff, drugs, and medical supplies to deal with the patient load will not be a small feat. However, closing down the economy of the world will not stop the virus. It will just add a massive world depression to the coronavirus pandemic that will totally destabilize the world.

Yes, several millions could die from the virus but we need to keep it in proper perspective. Sixty million people die on the planet each year for one reason or another. We have 2.5 million deaths in the U.S. each year. We do not close all the roads because 40,000 die each year from auto accidents. Nobody would want to be living in a world where reasonable risks are taken away by government. The virus might spike the 2.5 million death number for one year but then there would be less deaths for a number of years afterward. Having said that, I think the worse case numbers of deaths will not even happen if antivirals or something else are found to work by late next fall.

A black swan has changed everything. The world is moving into uncharted territory.You can kiss goodbye the world you knew last month. Many nations will soon not be able to pay their debts and some are likely to become involved in a world war. People will lose much of their wealth through currency devaluations or hyperinflation. There will be civil upheavals and I surmise a great world war during the reset. I would not panic, but I do think people should be taking reasonable precautions for the eventualities.The good news is this is not the great tribulation. The vast majority on earth will survive the reset. That might not be true in America if we get hit with an EMP attack. We are as foolish unprepared for that as we were for a pandemic.

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Economic collapse and world war may occur alongside coronavirus pandemic — 83 Comments

  1. The scriptures’ mention the left and the right hand of God, the goats and the sheep. Please clarify for me.
    Thank you,
    Robert

  2. Nobody commented on this possibility in your last post. War by summer is my feeling. Buy stock in Raytheon, and Israeli defense firms.

  3. As always your views are appreciated. As a somewhat young(34) man with a wife and 2 young daughters I am less than exited about the future in this life. My anxiety that I mentioned in your last post has improved somewhat with much scripture reading. I am over half way through your revelation commentary after starting it Tuesday, I am often able to read at work. I dont live in town although I do work there, I can garden pretty well Lord willing for His part of that. Unfortunately breaking free of electricity is not within my means at this time. I already homeschool my kids so no big adjustment there. So in goes a big garden this year, rainwater collection and learning to make soap as well as what ammo I can find. I dont want to suffer, but its all His even my life and over the last few weeks Ive been adjusting to that outlook. Your website inspired me to homeschool several years ago, my oldest is 6 now and reads chapter books to herself, I only wish I would have sought the Lord closer sooner.
    I am hoping as I study and become less ignorant of the bible I will be able to share.

    Yes, it seems at this point there are no good solutions to this Pandemic. It is most definitely real, although how bad the diesease really is nobody knowes. China with its evil government let this out, our leaders may have been able to do do more but the time for blame is not now. As you have said targeted isolations would be much better, and the debt bills wont save us. Unfortunately we lacked the ability to get in front of this, as up to 80% of cases dont show anything. It was likely out of China before it made the news in January.
    I hope through all this mess many people will turn back towards the savior, not just moralism. Many should see even though elites among men are powerful they cant control everything, and it would be wise to trust the One who does.

  4. Hi Robert,

    That is talking about the Judgment after the tribulation to determine who will be allowed into the Kingdom. Those that helped the sealed 144,000 Israelite’s preaching the gospel of the kingdom during the tribulation will be allow into the Kingdom. Those that hindered those proclaiming the gospel of the Kingdom will be cut off.

    The brethren with Jesus are the 144,000 sealed Israelite’s that follow Him wherever He goes. The sheep are those allowed in the Kingdom and the goats are those cut off. Those that claim it is about how Christians treat other people are teaching from their ignorance of Bible prophecy.

  5. My thoughts have tended to drift towards Mathew 24:37-38…always understood that scripture to indicate that things would be pretty much operating at or near normal right up to the point of the Rapture of the Church. We are definitely not at normal right now, and would be even less so if this leads right in to a world war in the coming months. I could be way off, but unless we (I), have been interpreting this verse incorrectly, I think things will get back to somewhat normal in the next 6-12 months or so for a period of time…then we’re outta’ here.

  6. Great points thru out. I remember hearing that 2019 would be the last year of piece, it’s shaping up to be true.

    My sister is beginning to wake to the fact that we are in the last days due to the Coronovirus that it could be a plaque. And if it’s not it resembles one.

    This spring into summer planet X is coming into view and meteors later in July, passing thru a huge shower of them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymvKfrohxks

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSoUtjcq-LjPxPVZiAPYidQ

    2 yrs ago I saw w/ my own eye’s that planet u see here in the videos standing on my back deck. I was looking for it that’s why I saw it before that reflector glared it out.

  7. you did not mention in all these events about the quick coming of Jesus .The sealed 144,000 take Jesus to Heaven .I believe that there will be no more reborn Roman Empire. The USA is the last power.The entire current system of Satan collapses before the next coming of the Messiah

  8. Hi Nathan,

    Mathew 24:37 38 is really talking about the second coming not the Rapture. I am suggesting that even in the next world war we will not yet be in the events of Revelation although the seal judgments could be a remote possibility. We will have to see how this reset plays out.

  9. I think the world will use the virus as an excuse to implement a new economic system. Wipe the slate clean so to speak. New alliances will probably form and of course like Don mentioned, wars as well.

    My gut feeling is that this was the catalyst that will really kick start the end time events into place. The next 10 years are going to test all of us in ways we might not be ready for.

  10. Do you feel that the timing of the rapture is still around 2030 or have recent events changed your perspective on that? If this virus leads to social unrest and another world war, do you think the rapture comes before these things or does the timing remain unaffected? How does Matthew 24:38 fit into this scenario? Thank you for sharing your perspective on these things with us, Don. I can’t tell you how difficult it is to get solid teaching on current events in light of scripture. I look forward to your articles and share them with my family and friends all the time. 🙂

  11. I have a hard time reconciling how at the end of the tribulation, that people will be eating, drinking, given in marriage, and not really knowing what is about to befall them, as the verse indicates. Just trying to understand where this verse fits. Maybe I’m not understanding it correctly, but it seems to indicate to me that at either the rapture or the second coming, that it will be business as usual. I dont understand how business as usual could refer to the second coming, as the prior seven years will have been anything but.

  12. hey don,

    i’m looking into the sky right now from new jersey and there is a huge star shining very close to the moon… iv never seen a star that big in my life and i’m starting to think it could be jupiter or maybe a sign from god of what is happening in the world right now, its very strange i don’t know what to think of it.

  13. Nathan ~ below is a link to Andy Woods discussing Matthew 24 and its relation to Revelation. I think you might find this helpful. It begins around the 3-minute mark….but watch the whole thing 🙂

    He and Jim McGowan update every Friday as time permits.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E5-DeZtblto

    Thanks, Don, for all your articles!!!!

  14. Hi Don,
    Excellent article. I always look forward to reading your commentaries and am wondering if your stance has changed based on the pandemic we find ourselves in, in regard to having a 3 and half year gap between the Rapture and the second coming of the Lord? Do you think there may be less of a time gap because of the events unfolding and potentially changing the world so quickly? I have to admit that I am a little fearful about entering WWIII and possibly experiencing a grid down situation on top of the current situation. I try to be stocked up at all times, but find it difficult with seven children at home…seems like I can never store enough items to last us very long. Thanking the Lord for all of your insight and discernment.

  15. I was wondering, is any of the western hemisphere in end times prophecy? Not just the United States but like Canada, USA, Mexico? What about the southern side like Brazil, Argentina etc?

  16. Thanks Kelley,

    Actually not too long ago I wrote an article saying I think the Rapture will occur by 2025 but who really knows?

    https://www.thepropheticyears.com/enddepravity/expect-the-rapture-before-2025.html

    The Rapture does not necessarily come before any reset that includes a world war.

    Matthew 24:38 is talking about the days before the second coming not the coming in the air to take away His bride. There could be more than 10 years between the two events. Maybe that is why people give up on any actual second coming and follow the Satanic Messiah.

  17. Hi Jennifer,

    I don’t think anyone knows the full impact of the pandemic. The death rate really depends upon if health systems get overwhelmed or not. I would think the death rate will be 1.5 to 3.5 percent worldwide and somewhat less here. They do not know how many people already had the virus, so until they figure that out the impact cannot be accurately modeled. The fact that they are calling up the reserves and building over a hundred field hospitals tells me Trump has been led to believe that things could get pretty bad here. Maybe he just had a talk with XI?

    I think there could be a 10 1/2 year gap between the Rapture and the second coming. Post Rapture when some people are counting off seven years, and the Lord does not return, many will embrace the Antichrist. Perhaps you meant to say the gap between the Rapture and the 7 year Covenant with the Antichrist? That gap could be longer or shorter but I lean toward what I just said.

  18. I did read this afternoon that Trump and Xi spoke on the phone about the plague. Many sources, are starting to drop bits and pieces that the numbers coming out of China are far under reported.

    Why do you think it is none of the new world is in end times prophecy? I get the stuff about the United States, but that is a lot of land and people to be completely left out, or at least mostly.

  19. Dawson,

    The New World is not mentioned because Bible prophecy is Israel focused and was speaking about Gentile nations that were known to Israel in the time the prophecy was given. Many prophecies have a contemporary fulfillment along with a greater end time fulfillment. Nobody in Israel would have known what the prophet was talking about if He mentioned the New World. There are some prophecies about the general world and where Gentile forces are coming from like from the North or East, but nothing specifically on nations that were not known to Israel in the days the prophets gave them.

  20. Great article. I saw just now that 3 Aircraft carriers are docked with covid 19 cases. If this increases, as Don mentioned – absent the US policeman-like presence, wars and skirmishes seem very likely.

  21. Ok thanks Don, that was sort of my intuition on it but havent studied enough to have reliable intuition.

  22. Hi Robert,

    Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
    Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
    Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

    The woman sits on 7 kingdoms and kings. The woman is satanic pagan religion that started in Babylon and influences all religion on earth since then. (The gospel is a God given revelation not a religion)

  23. “false religion” Catholicism, Judaism, Shintoism, Islam etc. Who is 7 who for a short while. ?? This is the current US power will not be another

  24. America is not in Bible prophecy. It is hard to understand what you are asking or saying but the 7th kingdom is the final phase of the Roman Empire. In this very article I explained how Rome will rise again.

  25. Rebuilt Roman Empire as king of the seventh ?? Rebuilt Europe ?? On your forum I read the comment “there is not enough time to rebuild the Roman Empire” The whore sitting on the beast is a false religion that has power over politicians . I’m sorry, but I do not know English.

  26. robert,

    None of this is new theology you might Google questions you have. I obviously disagree with any comment that says there is not enough time. I think there is enough time for a revived Roman Empire. It never really totally ended and the military now exists in the form of the western alliance called NATO. All religion is false. Belief in Christ is not a religion it is putting away all worldly fabrications called religion and trusting in the only Creator that actually exists. The Roman Harlot has political influence in most every nation even now. The world press even loves to report on the Pope.

  27. when the epidemic ends, the EU may fall apart. It is possible that something new will be born. “all time is close”

  28. hey yall,

    this is obviously all preparation for things to come, they are trying to create a police state to track everyone and now they talking about sending drones out to measure peoples temperatures and enforce social distancing… it’s like a movie that i saw recently how drones control the masses it’s quite creepy but its coming i believe.

    Eventually everything will be connected with 5g and starlink and we will wake up in a world where chips are going to be implemented in our bodies and we all know what happens next..

  29. Great post Don. I feel like things are about to change drastically in this nation. Something just isn’t right here.

    It is going to take months for service industries to recover from the lockdown. I suspect that employment numbers will continue to rise more rapidly than ever before. Hopefully the trucking industry can hold fast, because if not, many will starve. The America we have known for so long could be gone for good.

    Honestly Don, what keeps this house of cards steady? Our military might? At what point does the world stop trading in greenbacks?

  30. Steve,

    Im curious what you mean when you say you feel something isn’t right about this situation. Can you elaborate?

  31. Hi Steve,

    There may be trucks but nothing to truck. Much of the world is not producing anything. I thought there would be supply disruptions by April just because China had shut down. Now much of the world is shut down.

    What is keeping the house of cards up temporarily is the creation of funny money. It’s not just greenbacks. All nations with central banks will be creating money out of thin air. At some point this leads to hyperinflation or currency devaluations. They amount to the same thing. The money buys less. If they slap on price controls it means shortages and rationing.

    I am surprised how obedient everyone has been to the government shut-downs. Once there is any unrest there will be curfews and if there is gun violence the troops already being called up could be ordered to go door-to-door to round up the guns. And most of the sheeple will just say amen.

    Obviously this all leads to authoritarianism and a new world order. The governments will have destroyed the entire old world order for a pandemic that probably will only turn out to be a few times more deadly then seasonal flu’s. Problem is people now believe everything that the government and the press tells them. Government has become the God of most people.

  32. Towns should band together and make contingency plans beforehand. Say any attempt to take weapons from citizens will be met with equal force. Maybe the warning will deter some leftist mayors.

  33. If there was a light at the end of the tunnel, that was just extinguished by the extension of the shutdown through the end of April. Not sure if our financial system can withstand the destruction. No one is talking about this, but the pension plans of public employees may be seriously hurt by this. Most states were already significantly underfunded. With no tax revenue coming in this could be a real problem. Something wicked this way comes.

  34. Thanks for the reply Don.

    Jim,

    I am just somewhat fearful of what may come from the government’s continued suppression of civil liberties. I understand why they are doing it, but honestly I feel that it may be an over blown reaction. I also feel like we may not be getting the truth about the whole ordeal. Now what that truth is I do not know.

    I fear, as Don mentioned, that authoritarianism could rear it’s ugly head somehow during these shutdowns. I wouldn’t really expect that from Trump beyond what may be needed to contain the virus, but if you factor in the economic situation and the potential for mass unemployment, supply chain disruption, etc, things could quickly spiral out of control. Now throw in a democratic president taking over during the unrest, should it continue on that long, and we could be in trouble as a nation.

  35. Hi Steve,

    Its not just going to impact America. This is going to impact the whole world. Even if there is no world war everything seems about to change. The world powers will have to come to agreement about what comes next because nobody is going to be able to pay their debts.

  36. Good points Don.

    I don’t think many people realize how big of a blow this is to the economy. A large portion of our workforce is in the restaurant business. Millions of people applied for unemployment last week, and I believe millions more will in the weeks ahead. Now that Trump has extended restrictions, they will undoubtedly need more stimulus in the future to prop up the losses that will undoubtedly come.

  37. Coronaviruses been around a long time housed in animals. Viruses help to build our immune system so we can be more resilient to changing environments so we can live in them and survive.

    Now we are all Christians if man did not make this virus (or did) that means that the Father has command over this virus it will perform exactly what it is set out to do. It will not do what the Father won’t allow this thing to do.

    For the world that’s one thing but for those covered by the blood their fate is not in the hands of a virus it’s in the hands of the One who holds the key to hell and death. Many of us need to be mindful of that.

    No one goes anywhere until Jesus puts His approval on it so if some do go that’s our Lord who’s in command of hell and death and it’s going to carry out just what it is suppose to do.

    *Testing is going to ramp up 15 min. result
    *5 million will be tested in April (It’s estimated)
    *Then they can decide who’s sick & who can go back to work.

    A French study where 80 coronavirus patients in a hospital were given Hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) along with Azithromycin ( an antibiotic) and 79 survived. In 8 days, 93% had no virus left in the body.

    I’m glad Trump is in charge of our country I think by his nature he has a General Patton instinct for battle, it is the perfect combination for this war. Glad it’s him and not Hillary.

    If u think it could come to taking our guns start locating a good hiding place and have a throw away piece to give to the authorities so u will be a good boy.

  38. Hi Bill,

    I see a bit of inconsistent thinking in some of what you said. If God is controlling the virus, then nothing governments does is going to change any of that. So why shut down everything to try to prevent the spread of the virus and destroy the nation’s economy to boot like Trump and leaders all over the world are doing?

    It seems to me that The governmental cure is going to turn out to be much worse for the world than the virus. Perhaps something else is going on here? This may lead to global governance when all the leaders of nations realize they need global government to deal with global crises.

    Second, if government comes for your guns and you allow such tyranny to happen then why hide your weapons because it then becomes obvious that you will never use your weapons to resist government tyranny anyway?

  39. Hi Don,

    With the gun thing I was commenting on a recent post about them taking guns. What are we going to do? Go out and start shooting cops now to prevent something? Maybe the guns are to help keep people honest? Not if a cop comes to my door.

    I want to keep my food & family safe, son.

    My people parish for the lack of knowledge…. right? So take the knowledge and do all we can… right? Wash hands do what u can to be smart don’t go into public places and yes listen to the gov’t w/ the restrictions… pay Caesar what belongs to him.

    So far as I can tell the gov’t isn’t telling me to go do something against God’s law. I understand, u follow the law too?… Right?

    What’s contradictory w/ my post? I don’t understand? Nothing happens without God allowing it. Do u not agree w/ that?? It’s out of Gods control then? Dang we ARE in trouble then! I guess the Lord doesn’t got this one?

    If your covered in the blood no matter what happens your in Gods hands. Even if the gov’t IS handling the crises. Who else would handle it? Believe it or not there is a purpose for the gov’t.. u like the highways?

    I agree w/you things are lining up as u said but it’s all part of the process it will get much worse before going up I’m sure.

    Just like 9/11 everything had to shut down this is like that as far as getting things back in order I don’t know if things go back? I doubt it.

    But whatever good article Don.

  40. Bill,

    Cops are not likely to go house-to-house rounding up guns. The military will if ordered. You’re also not being a good boy if you just give them one weapon and disobey them by hiding the others.

    I think you know the point I am making. The Constitution gives us the right to bear arms to resist a government that becomes tyrannical enough to round the weapons up. I am sure you know world history about what happened after socialists came for the guns. If you are going to obey unconstitutional decrees and allow them to take your weapons, you have lost your means to resist such tyranny. This was put in the Bill of Rights so we would have weapons to use against an oppressive unconstitutional government. You think you can allow them to come round up your weapons and still think you would use those arms to oppose their tyranny. That is not logical.

    I know God is in control, but you also said that you’re glad Trump is in control and not Hillary to deal with this virus? Apparently you are suggesting that God could not control the virus enough if Hillary was in office? Poor God. He is in control but he cannot use whatever President He allows in office. That also is inconsistent thinking.

    Christians do this all the time. They say God controls everything but than out of the other side of their mouth they make it clear they do not really believe what they said. On one extreme they seem to say no physical harm will fall on those with faith and on the other extreme they seem to become total dependents of governments because God controls governments. I think Christians should try to be consistent in what they believe. The truth is we live in a fallen world and bad things happen to unbelievers and believers alike. The proof of that is we all die and the life span of the physical bodies of believers and non believers is about the same.

  41. From April 12, 2009 to April 10 2010 there were 60.8 million cases of swine flu with 12,469 deaths in the United States and 575,400 deaths world wide.

    I remember hearing about it but I had no idea H1N1 was a pandemic until I did some research. Why didn’t I know? Because life was “business as usual” so I didn’t pay attention to it.

    The Spanish Influenza of 1918 killed 20 to 50 million world wide and 675,000 Americans.

    Why the shutdowns over Covid-19? I’m very suspicious. The fallout is going to be the real killer if this doesn’t end very very soon.

  42. Caitlin,
    You and I have been suspicious of this since the beginning. I still maintain there was a huge political motivation behind this. Why do the news networks including Fox, keep a scoreboard of case numbers and deaths on their screens? That is absurd! I don’t remember the H1N1 being a problem either because it wasn’t. It was just another flu. There’s more going on here than we’ll probably ever know.

  43. Caitlin,

    Don’t forget who the President was during the swine flu. The networks couldn’t allow such negative press. Then again, had you asked me whom I would have expected to take advantage of such an opportunity, it would have been him.

  44. I totally agree that the cure is worse than the virus. There should not have been so many business close downs. Because of the shutdowns the world is going to have a very severe economic crises in addition to the pandemic.

    Whatever is going on, the virus is real and it a very serious threat. Death rates of confirmed cases are sill climbing across the globe. The death rate of confirmed cases in Italy is now up to 11 percent and Spain is catching up. Why? Because catching this virus results in a 15 to 20 percent hospitalization rate and the medical systems in those nations cannot handle the load. Many old people and people with other conditions are just being told to go home. There is not enough staff or equipment to handle all the people that get pneumonia. Can you imagine what is going to happen when this explodes in India, Africa and other nations without adequate health care? It also now appears this is not going to go away in the warm months.

    Even here the death rate is now climbing. That is the opposite of what many were saying would happen as more people are tested. In a matter of a month or two there will be millions of people with the virus in this nation. Even our hospital system only has a few hundred thousand empty beds available. That is why the government is building makeshift hospitals and calling up the reserves to help minimally staff them.

    Those that have to be put on a ventilators will be on it about two weeks and at least 70 percent of those only get off it because they die. Some don’t seem to understand that this virus continues to grow exponentially but so far less just a fraction of one percent on earth have caught it and some health systems are already overwhelmed.

    This is no joke. Pray they come up with antivirals to help rid people of the virus and a vaccine shortly thereafter.

  45. I think part of the reason for the high death rate is selction bias in the way testing is being done. Most countries including ours do not have enough tests and only now a rapid test is making it past trial stages. Many places are only testing to confirm infection in those already sick. Mild cases are not being tested in many areas which leads to an artificially low infection rate. It is most definitely serious. The economic ramifications are really bad too. We must pray as Don has said. While it is true that no modern pandemic has seen closures like we are now they were used during the Spanish Flu 100 years ago. We need antibody testing in a bad way to see who can be turned back in public to work safely. We can not sit idle for months, people need to work and interact, that is part of how God made us. Hopefully our leaders will begin to work on the economic side of this too. We need to pray for them because like them or not they are the ones in the drivers seat and we need them to make good decisions. People must also not panic over this virus, the situation is bad, but we must use our heads and think at least in our own communities how to help others in this difficult time.

    John 16:33
    These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

    Dawson

  46. I still don’t know why they didn’t quarantine high risk individuals and keep the economy going. 99% of all deaths are in the high risk pool. Most of these people are retired anyways. The mortality rate in younger healthy people is very low comparably. The virus is a real threat but the inevitable loss of civil liberties and formation of a godless NWO is worse. There is absolutely no way we can keep printing money at this rate. Our only hope is that Trump wins in November. Can you even imagine the terror a Bernie, Hillary, or whoever far leftist would inflict on us in a lockdown? There would be civil war.

  47. Hi Steve,

    There is a large Muslim population in Sweden. Me thinks the Swedes are afraid of what the Muslims might do if they attempt to shut the nation down. Europe in general can’t enforce laws in Muslim areas. The police are afraid to enforce anything in the Muslim ghettos. Its not that they are cowards. If they charged any Muslim with a crime they would have to deal with the politically correct lawyers and social justice warriors within their bureaucracy. Its a no win situation for law enforcement so they just avoid those areas.

    Its much like California, law enforcement will enforce the shut downs and laws in the more wealthy areas but they avoid the gettos and the areas taken over by migrants.

    It is also going to be that way in many of our big cities before long. The bottom line is if you want constitutional freedoms, you might move to where lawless people live in the inner city ghettos and slums.

  48. Don that is a good point. I think along with France, Sweden has the largest Muslim population in Europe. That would be a recipe for disaster attempting to shut down their enclaves. I’ll pass on moving to the cities haha.

  49. I have seen several people making remarks about this all being part of a plan called id2020 and that this diesease was manufactured to implement this program. Any truth to this?

  50. Hi Dawson,

    The ID2020 program exists. It combines giving a ID to the billion or more people in the world that do not have them and a vaccine for disease but I doubt if this disease was manufactured for the program. We are not even likely to have a worldwide vaccine for this virus this year.

  51. So its really more of intial stage of tracking people the world over instead of an elaborate scheme to inject people with something akin to borg nanoprobes which will be able to be turned on at will to require the next vaccine, thus using vaccines for total world domination. Thus every new disease would require returning to the collective for software updates and reprogramming. Sorry…i went down the conspirists rabit hole today…

  52. It’s probably more of a real ID for natives so they can tract the herd, vaccinate them, and be reasonably sure they will not be spreading tropical diseases. After all, globalist fascists think native people are just more evolved animals anyway.

  53. Good evening everyone:
    I just saw a report that the Department of Homeland Security (Chad Wolf) is giving out 35,000 more “Bonus Visas” to total 100,000 new immigrant visas’ while Americans are unemployed and we are in an economic crisis. Also, DHS is granting 85,000 H1B Lottery Visas plus agricultural green cards for October. I understand the whole world is in catastrophic trauma but placing us under additional potential to go under and/or slow down our recovery is not helpful. Is this how our government is going to respond to rescue America from disaster? I am praying that President Trump will stop ALL of this – we will NEED these jobs!! – under Section 118(F) title 8.

  54. Covid-19 is not a black swan event. There is just too much evidence of it being planned to say it is. The virus is real but calling it a pandemic is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated upon mankind. It is nothing less than the global 9/11 and it will change everything.

    God has given America and the world over to a spirit of insanity. In all my 69 years I have never seen such a widespread display of insanity and hysteria over something so insignificant compared to real pandemics. And the controlled propaganda over it is nonstop.

    I saw one report today saying that suicide in the coming months is likely to dwarf the number of coronavirus deaths in America. People are already committing suicide over it.

    I am just completely fed up with mass media fake news, government, and even President Trump’s collusion with Deep State operatives over this event. The sooner the rapture, the better.

  55. Hi Steven,

    It really is a no win situation. Politicians are damned if the hospitals get overwhelmed and it causes more people to die, and they are damned if they take action to flatten the curve and it put us into a great depression.

    I think politicians in this nation should not have claimed powers that the Constitution did not give them. They should not have screwed with the free enterprise system and they should not be printing what amounts to unlimited counterfeit money.

    Calling the disease a pandemic is the correct word to use because it is an epidemic in many nations. I agree that there is unusual hysteria over this pandemic. Now that everyone is connected by their smart phones that may occur in all widespread future calamities. As is often said ignorance is (or was) bliss.

    We do need to keep this in proper perspective 2 to 3 hundred thousand may die of the complications of this virus but 2.5 million Americans would have died this year anyway because of complications of living in a body with a very limited lifespan.

  56. Well it looks like the collapse is here. Unemployment numbers increase by another 6.6 million. Roughly 10 million in the last two weeks. The greatest loss of employment in a two week span in US history. Whether this was by design, or just used as a convenient excuse for the crash, I believe we are in it.
    It’s also quite suspicious how many senators and CEOs were able to exit the markets at just the right time. You or I would be in prison for much less.

    I’ve also begun to notice a couple more people on the streets than usual. Not just walkers, or runners, but people that appear homeless, or at least carrying backpacks and other goods. Some in groups. I don’t think I’ll be leaving the house without protection from this point on.

    On a personal note, and for perspective, my wife applied for unemployment last week. So did her sister. My hours have been drastically cut and pay will probably stop by the end of the month. Thankfully, we have a strong Christian family who has been very supportive, and we will all take care of each other as best we can.

    I hope all of you are well, and have a good supply on hand. If not, make your runs to the store while you can.

  57. How will we tell the difference between it being World War 3 and not the same “interventions, policing or other nations military upheavels that we often get involved in”?

  58. Hi Bev,

    You might not even know WW3 started at first. Regional wars can spread. It would involve a number of nations using their military against the other side like happen in WWI and WW2. For example, NATO against Russia and China or NATO against predominately Shiite nations led by Iran.

  59. Maybe other astute Christians can agree, but I sense that a darkness is coming. I cant put a finger on it but I agree the world has changed. It’s not just simply the virus by itself. Things are set in motion now. Im not quite sure how to prepare physically. It would cost a huge amount of money to try to cover all the bases. I don’t want to be one of those paranoid prepper guys but I don’t want to be caught flat footed.

  60. Same here. I want to prepare but I dont have the means to cover everything. I had on overwhelming since of dread come over me this morning, and that was while I was out in my garden working on planting etc. I get the overwhelming since that something really bad is about to happen. Ever since this covid thing started spreading in this country the media has gone crazy, its non stop fear mongering and panic pushing. Anyone that suggests we have to try to keep the economy going is shouted down and criticized. To me, since our country is now vulnerable all of our enemies have grown bold. I hope the rapture comes soon for us but there is no guarantee things wont get bad in america before then. I dont know a lot but I get the idea from reading Don’s material that the rapture may still be several years off, I know nobody knowes the day or the hour, but the season sort of thing. It does seem as though the season has changed though.

    I honestly wonder what people thought and felt when the news of pearl harbor got around…if they also felt this since of dread and if it is a normal thing etc. Part of me wants to have the attitude that the rapture is likely soon and why bother preparing for physical calamities but I dont believe that to be a wise choice.
    Steve, im glad to hear you have a good supporting Christian family. I Hope that is some comfort in these dark times.

  61. The united nations is now trying to implement a global tax… this sounds familiar

  62. Yes it rains on the just and unjust and so forth I agree.

    This is scary….

    Microsoft founder Bill Gates announced on March 18, 2020 during a “Reddit ‘Ask Me Anything’ session” that he is working on a new, invisible “quantum dot tattoo” implant that will track who has been tested for COVID-19 and who has been vaccinated against it.

    Will this mean forced vaccinations or perpetually “sheltering in place” for those who refuse the coronavirus vaccine? Gates is simultaneously working on the ID2020 Certification Mark, which according to pymnts.com utilizes “immunization to serve as a platform for digital identity”.

    Covid-19 has the ability to survive on cash for up to 10 days.

    Will this eventually be tied into a “mark” or digital tattoo, let’s say, that has the ability to not only track you with ID2020, confirm if you’ve been vaccinated, and also tie in the banking system all into one easy to implant, invisible, digital mark?

    https://savedmag.com/bill-gates-quantum-dot-digital-tattoo-implant-to-track-covid-19-vaccine-compliance/

    Will we be raptured by 18 months? Or will we be tested for our faith?

    In 18 months they think it will roll out and for anyone not taking this “mark” they will be quarantined in a special place the article said.

    MIT researchers have “found a covert way to embed the record of a vaccination directly in a patient’s skin rather than documenting it electronically or on paper—and their low-risk tracking system could greatly simplify the process of maintaining accurate vaccine records, especially on a larger scale,” according to ScienceAlert.Com

    J.D. Farag
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G76nB6THoYc

    Spring rapture?

  63. Hi Bill,

    “Spring Rapture?”

    Nobody can predict the timing of the taking of the Bride set by the Father.

    As for the rest, seems the Gates of hell is doing his best to build the foundation for the Mark of the Beast system. He will not prevail until the Church is gone.

    The foundation for the Mark of the Beast is definitely now being laid, but parts of the system are not in place yet. There has to be a world-wide communications system among other things and it must reach people that now have no access to the Internet.

    That is probably the low orbit satellite system that Space X and others have started putting up. It will take a number of years to get that done and then there has to be good reason to identify everyone. I do not think it will be done in time for this pandemic. However, there are more pandemics when the pale horse rides at the fourth seal.

    Keep in mind, that many Bible prophecy people jump on everything, but for the most part they are reading in what they want to believe rather than reality. Stay informed, but we are not quite there yet. The real Mark of the Beast is probably still a decade or so in the future.

  64. I’m writing this from memory but it was 3 or 4 weeks ago I saw an article from Gateway Pundit. In October 2019 John Hopkins, the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation (and I think the Bloomberg foundation) hosted a coronavirus simulation in New York. It was open to the public. The purpose was to look at the effects of a coronavirus pandemic on economy, deaths, and I don’t remember what else but I found it to be very coincidental timing.

  65. I honestly think that this one just caught everyone bad. Over the years the whole world got complacent about disease and such because our technology has protected many of us and saved many lives, to the point now none remain alive who have experienced a truely bad pandemic. The 1918 spanish flue was a bad one, Ive read up on it. Young prime of the life people were dead in 36 hours from it at times. Over 650,000 died in the U.S. and possibly up to 50 million the world over. Now that a real one is on the scene again though thankfuly not as bad as the spanish flu, people are at a loss as to what to do as their money and technology cant save everyone of them. Calling it a weaponized virus gives some comfort to some people because it gives a “man in control” explanation too it. Man is not in control as much as he wants to be, and hopefully many like me will wake up and see the Son before the rapture. That is my hope for this. Its going to get bad, many are going to die and many are going to suffer economically. God still has control and hopefully many will turn to Him in this time.
    That vacination tech while lending towards the ability to be abused at a later date is really just an ultraviolet tatoo coupled with a needle made out of sugar so it will dissolve. Its not injecting chips that can be satilite tracked or anything along those lines at this time.

  66. Hi Don,

    I wasn’t predicting a spring rapture just hoping for one.

    “He will not prevail until the Church is gone.” That gives me a little bit of relief but just a little. “Gates of hell” as in Bill Gates that’s good!

    Also the 144,000 & 2 witnesses will be preaching the Kingdom Gospel too to add to your point. That has to happen.

    Gates will be frustrated in his efforts to roll out the beast system if the church is still on earth.

  67. Life back to normal ? GOD doesn’t want us to go back to the usual back to : abortions, drugs, affairs, godless secular teaching, stealing, lying, etc “NO.” I don’t think most people want to get it, this is like a ‘JOnah Moment’ either we repent and change or else. The wicked do not want to understand their gods are $ dollars, stocks, pensions and of what good are those false idols when hyperinflation is just a matter of a few years ?

  68. I think I know how things could be normal,and yet not normal.the wealthy.the privileged have hardly been bothered by lockdowns…. marriages, buying and selling..all their activities have continued. the suffering of other people doesn’t concern them as a matter of fact the great unwashed are now the great unmasked.dirty.unclean.worthy of contempt.their plans..including all the classes of government..are happily moving right along.they are about to get their underage sex slaves their drugs,everything they care about,returned to them.the elites over them are their buddies. They are in effect…happy.so we have the world on the verge of collapse,with a whole class of people ignorant of that fact.deceivers deceiving and being deceived.