I have had a long dialogue with someone emailing me. He was hostile toward me because of my views on Obama on my blogs. In the course of the dialogue, points were brought up that I addressed. This is not everything said. That would be too long. My comments are in bold. The abbreviated statements from the other person begin with an *.
*I gave you proof in links.
Cherry picking articles is not proof of anything to me. I could find articles in support of what I said, but I know it would be a waste of time. You say your links were unbiased but most of them are to leftist sites. You say you are not a liberal or whatever but I think a man can be known by the company he keeps.
*What has Obama done to you PERSONALLY that has affected your life negatively”? I don’t mean some vague trade agreement. But YOU as an INDIVIDUAL. Are your loved ones vanishing? Does the police kick in your door at will?
What Obama did to me personally can only be seen in the course that he set this nation on. I suppose you will tell me that the possible future nuclear EMP by Iran and North Korea would not affect me personally or that allowing radical Muslim terrorists and gangsters into this country will not ever affect me personally. Or that the breakdown of the family that Obama helped promote will not affect crime and that will not ever affect me personally? I suppose you think the 10 trillion in additional debt does not affect me personally? Abortion of millions of babies here and abroad will not affect me personally? The far-left war against Christianity would not affect me personally? Obama’s Arab Spring actions that destabilized the Middle East will not affect me personally? Obama disregard for the law and the Constitution will not ever affect me personally? It goes on and on. I suppose you also think the war he is ramping up against Donald Trump and conservatives will not affect me personally. If Obama got all of what he wanted in the past or if gets what he wants in the future, it would certainly affect me and most Americans but you think we should not say anything because it is not yet impacting most of us. Obama’s agenda unrestrained would affect Americans much the same as Chavez’s socialistic agenda is now affecting the people of Venezuela. Your question is purposely misdirected, the nation is not just about me.
By the way, I only empathize Obama because he has been the President for the last 8 years. The Democratic Party that Obama leads was taken over by far left radicals that are working toward socialist globalism. Some of the Republican are also involved. Trump won because he is against globalism controlled by elitists. If Hillary Clinton would have won, I would be saying much the same about her. However, probably not for long, because Hillary would have encouraged the Internet elite to censor speech that is against the leftist agenda. I was no fan of her husband either. It is not about race to me, the Marxist worldview is the antithesis of a Christian worldview.
*The historians rate Obama as the 12th best President. Do you think he brainwashed them?
I do not think that Obama brainwashed the historians. Education institutions and peer pressure influenced their ranking. There are very few conservatives in the soft sciences. The globalist elite promote and honor people that think like them. Obama even got a Nobel Peace Prize from Fabian socialists in Norway before he did anything. Obama has done nothing positive to get a 12th ranking. I think he got it because those ranking him are of the left or because they are afraid to honestly rate the first black American president. It is a little soon for historical opinions anyway. The people behind this push to rank him are people with a leftist agenda.
*How is the nation divided? And just HOW is Obama to blame? Was there a Klan before Obama? Was there a Nation of Islam before Obama? Were there Republicans and Democrats before Obama? If you think ONE man can FORCE you to be a racist or to stop being a racist you’re crazy. That is something PERSONAL. The only person that can TRULY change a racist is Jesus. Not you, me or Obama. PLEASE ANSWER THIS. Also this isn’t something that can be quantified.
How is the nation divided? Do you listen to the news? We are as close to civil war as we were in the days before the last civil war. In fact, some are already calling what the far-left is fermenting against conservatives a shadow government and civil war. Some on the far-left even want an American Spring with all the violence it produced in the Middle East.
It is not black versus white as you seem to see everything. It is far-left agitators using the indoctrinated of the system to rebel against anything traditional, biblical, moral or American. Far-left Marxist collectivists are warring against conservatives, individualists, critical thinkers and biblical Christians. The battle is between people given over to reprobate minds and people that believe what God said in the Bible. The battle is really about good and evil. It is hard to believe that a true Christian could take the other side. Even so, this generation calling themselves Christians is who 2 Peter 2 talked about.
The agenda of the far-left is really the same as what happened in Russia, China and Cambodia, except here and in Europe the far-left thus far has been trying to establish global Marxism through Fabian Socialism rather than through violent revolution. History repeats itself with Marxism. Once they gain control heads will roll like they always do. Christians are the first target. In fact, people like Bill Ayers say 20 million or more people in the United States must die. Those that downplay history might be doomed to repeat it.
* You claim Obama is responsible for a weaker military? I sent specific info to the CONTRARY.
You quote NPR. They are a leftist outfit that twists the truth all the time – that is what they do. The military is much weaker than when Obama took office. The navy is the smallest it has been since 1917. Half the aircraft in the military are not currently air-worthy. Only 3 of the Army’s 58 Brigade Combat Teams are rated combat ready. The U.S. military forces have been cut severely and they also have been feminized. The overall fighting ability was greatly reduced under Obama.
*You clam there is a socialistic education system that indoctrinates people rather than educates them? How many times does a child have to “learn” about Washington and his ilk? Of course I’m pretty sure you will say I am anti-education. No, I am PRO education, but PRAGMATIC education. Math, advanced math, economics, a foreign language (Spanish) basic computer skills and a few others. History is important but life skills are MORE important
I wish they actually taught the things that you mention as well as history. History and other subjects take a backseat to sex education and other social engineering indoctrination. You also know what they say about people that do not learn from history.
Most come out of high school not prepared for college and many cannot even fill out a job application form or speak the language. If you want proof just look at the test scores or ask employers.
*You claim the existence of a socialistic media system that brainwashes people? Do you know how difficult it is to “brainwash” someone? If you are talking about multimedia, yeah, people can be INFLUENCED. But brainwashing is something COMPLETELY different. So how is Obama behind this one?
Proof of brainwashing comes via observation. Brainwashing is not as difficult as you seem to think. Many people are trapped by brainwashing cults. For example, The Roman Catholic Church is the biggest cult in the world. In our schools children are indoctrinated by a leftist worldview five days a week. After that the media finishes the job. Conservatives are saying that liberals act like they are in a cult for good reason. They act like programmed robots. They do not even know the issues or care about the truth. They just follow their indoctrination and rant mindless slogans. Those taking to the streets are looking like they should be committed to an insane asylum. Maybe its just their sugar diet or not having been brought up by a real father or maybe it also is the programing they receive each day.
Obama was the man behind the curtain. He wanted far-left directed education programs for everyone except his own two kids.
*You say there is sexual confusion and debauchery everywhere? How is Obama behind this? Wasn’t Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed because of sexual immorality. Guess Obama time travels now.
Oh, come on… Obama said he was for the Defense of Marriage Act before he turned against it. Obama pushed the homosexual agenda. He even lit up the White House with rainbow colors. Such sin has always existed, but when nations embrace, flaunt and promote such sin they are asking for judgment. Marriage is a covenant between one man and one woman and God. Obama obviously promotes sexual confusion and debauchery.
Name one thing Obama has done that is good for our country? (One of my questions to him.)
*This is all the answer I will need. Because no matter what he has done, the hate you and others like you have for him will NEVER give him credit. I bet if it was the Bush admin or Trump who killed bin Laden you couldn’t shut up about it. As stated before, MEN give credit where it’s due. Even to an adversary. Is your heart really the heart of a Christian? What happened to Romans 13: 1-14? Guess that’s for every president EXCEPT Obama. Wow. Well this will make your day. It made mine. For all the HATE (and you can call it “patriotism” or WHATEVER, maybe some of those young guys will believe you. Me? I’m almost 45 and I’ve seen and heard all the smokescreens. The Klan claims to be “Christian” as well) you and others have for the man he was ranked the 12th BEST president. Lemme guess? He brainwashed em? There. A nice long RATIONAL email. So please answer the questions I have asked. Since you danced around the last email
That is the only answer you can come up with because Obama has not passed anything good worth mentioning.
You do not even know if Obama had Bin Laden killed. The government lies when it wants. This conveniently happened six months before the election. Where is the evidence? Where is the body? Bin Laden was a sick man and may have been dead for years. You might want to check into it.
I never said or implied that Christians should not be praying for Obama as its leader. If more had, maybe he would have come to see things differently. Then again maybe nothing would have changed. True Christians can be a good influence in any nation. Even so, Christians do not determine the outcome for any nation. Nations generally get the leaders that they deserve.
Black racists like to identify all white people with slanders like the Klan. Mostly white Republican Christian people dealt with slavery and later with the Klan. The Klan came from the southern democrats. It is ironic that black people now support a party full of racists that want to keep people of color on the government plantation. The majority of blacks might choose freedom and liberty instead of blindly following white hating race baiters. The race baiters make a pretty good living keeping black people down.
On another issue that you addressed. Obama doubled the national debt from 10 trillion to 20 trillion in just 8 years. I do not blame only Obama for this debt disaster, he had a lot of help. You listed declining deficits but the damage is already done and the deficits are projected to rise again as well. The day is rapidly approaching when even the interest on that debt cannot be paid. The only thing that has kept things going this far was artificially low interest rates. That will not be the case much longer. Even a historically low five percent interest on twenty trillion that will soon become thirty trillion under Trump would be 1.5 trillion a year in interest alone. Interest on our debt could easily take half the budget within 10 years. The only solution is huge growth in the GDP without inflation. Will Trump be able to accomplish that? We shall see.
Much more was said, especially by my critic but this post is well over 2000 words as it is. If any readers want to give their own views of Obama’s Presidency here is your chance.